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Title: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: AKKuya on August 06, 2012, 05:08:56 PM
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We will be conducting an 8th Air Force Mission vs Luftwaffe Mission in the Allied vs Axis Arena this Thursday night at 9PM EST/8PM CST.  All are welcome to attend and participate either as 8th or LW.  This is a multi-life event.  Bring your pocket full of quarters because we'll make you go broke before your done.

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8th Air Force Targets :
A66 (18,11)
A67 (18,11)

8th AF Launch Bases :
A25 (11,14)

Luftwaffe Defense Bases :
A60 (15,11)
A65 (17,10)
A68 (16,12)

There will be other active bases for players before and after the event.  For Mission purposes, please utilize the 8th and LW Airfields for mission sorties.

Aircraft Order of Battle :

8th AF
B-17
B-24
P-38J
P-38L
P-47D-11
P-47D-25
P-47D-40
P-47N
P-51B
P-51D

LW
Bf-109G-6
Bf-109G-14
Bf-109K-4
Bf-110G-2
FW-190A-8
Fw-190D-9
Fw-190F-8
Ta-152
Me-410

All Allied aircraft are enabled at A25 base.  Bf-109s are enabled at A60.  FW-190s and Ta-152s are enabled at A68.  Bf-110s and Me-410s are enabled at A65.

It is requested that Axis players refrain from going feet dry over England until 30 minutes after launch.  Axis players are free to pursue Allied aircraft across the English Channel and to English bases.

For those accustomed to Main Arena settings, there will be some slight differences.  For those accustomed to AvA settings, there will a couple of differences.  For those accustomed to Special Events settings, there will be some differences.

Fuel Burn - 1.0
No dot radar or darbar for friendly or enemy
Killshooter will be ON
Friendly and Enemy Icon will be 3K
Auto-calibration for bombers

For those flying 8th AF, we will have 2 loaded Missions for 8th AF Bombers and Fighters if all goes to plan.  Just join the either Mission by selecting which aircraft you want.   Go to http://stevesscifishootout.forumsland.com and register to be included on the fun and details of flying an 8th AF Mission.

For those flying Luftwaffe, there is no official LW Commander.  That is an open position to be filled.  The LW Commander needs to have a plan of action and to get LW players organized to stop 8th AF.

Take a couple of hours away from the Late War Arena and fly in the BoB map with no radar and no darbar to see enemy or friendly to immerse yourself in the true long range high altitude bombing campaigns of the 8th AF.  Tell your freinds, squaddies and your grandma that this is where the action is at.  Real dogfighting at 25,000 ft between the best of both sides.  Are you up to the challenge? 

I would like to thank the AvA staff for allowing us to use their arena.  :salute

Good hunting.
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: captain1ma on August 06, 2012, 05:12:47 PM
we like to help out where we can!  :salute

 :cheers:
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: AKKuya on August 06, 2012, 05:23:12 PM
Looking forward when the Staged Missions can be implemented in AvA to augment the bombers and escort fighters.
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: kappa on August 07, 2012, 04:21:45 PM
The constant cloud layer in the AvA arena made me want to slit my wrist....very depressing... Can we have clear skies?
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: Zoney on August 08, 2012, 10:16:12 AM
First you slit your wrists, then make a blood sacrifice on the megolith alter, then we get clear skies.  Not much of a sacrifice, you get to live, you'll just be a bit dizzy for a couple days.
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: Tracerfi on August 08, 2012, 10:58:54 AM
First you slit your wrists, then make a blood sacrifice on the megolith alter, then we get clear skies.  Not much of a sacrifice, you get to live, you'll just be a bit dizzy for a couple days.
Ill look for Brown dots AKA B17s
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: captain1ma on August 08, 2012, 12:55:48 PM
come in this week watch the Axis luftwaffe cut through the Allied bombers and escorts like a chainsaw. we did it last week, we'll do it again. plenty of spare parts to go around for all the allies.

if you like bombers, bombing or escort  missions, swing in and check it out. you life expectancy is low, but you'll have a great time, with a great bunch of people!!

<S>
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: Tracerfi on August 08, 2012, 12:58:32 PM
come in this week watch the Axis luftwaffe cut through the Allied bombers and escorts like a chainsaw. we did it last week, we'll do it again. plenty of spare parts to go around for all the allies.

if you like bombers, bombing or escort  missions, swing in and check it out. you life expectancy is low, but you'll have a great time, with a great bunch of people!!

<S>
I cant do it this week as i need i new account maybe next week
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: AKKuya on August 08, 2012, 07:08:18 PM
come in this week watch the Axis luftwaffe cut through the Allied bombers and escorts like a chainsaw. we did it last week, we'll do it again. plenty of spare parts to go around for all the allies.

if you like bombers, bombing or escort  missions, swing in and check it out. you life expectancy is low, but you'll have a great time, with a great bunch of people!!

<S>

He must be a bookie in Vegas. :D

Truth be told, the Luftwaffe will be sitting in the tower several times each night courtesy of Allied escorts and bomber gunners.
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: Tracerfi on August 08, 2012, 07:17:10 PM
He must be a bookie in Vegas. :D

Truth be told, the Luftwaffe will be sitting in the tower several times each night courtesy of Allied escorts and bomber gunners.
dont count on it when i start playing again
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: Zoney on August 08, 2012, 07:32:28 PM
dont count on it when i start playing again

We already have a plan to cover that.  We are going to have at least 6 pilots trck and engage you so our buffs have a chance of at least getting ne on target.  Those brave 6 pilots will all be volunteers of course because their chance of surviving agains you are slim to none, but it maybe, by chance, with a little luck, one buff sneaks past you, then we are good with it.
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 08, 2012, 07:41:31 PM
There is one issue with the plane set for the Allies, the P-38L was not flown by any fighter groups in the 8th AF and should be removed from the plane set.


ack-ack
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: Oldman731 on August 08, 2012, 09:47:38 PM
There is one issue with the plane set for the Allies, the P-38L was not flown by any fighter groups in the 8th AF and should be removed from the plane set.


Hope to see you there, dude.

Oldman
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: SEseph on August 08, 2012, 10:49:55 PM
He must be a bookie in Vegas. :D

Truth be told, the Luftwaffe will be sitting in the tower several times each night courtesy of Allied escorts and bomber gunners.

OOO Kuya has a Magic 8Th AF Ball! I wanna play!
OH GRAND COMMUNICATOR OF THE DIVINE! GRANT ME YOUR WISODM! Will the Axis make the Allies cry Tomorrow? *Shake Shake* Guppy will auger.

Thing's fricken spot on.. except that's hard to be wrong about; kinda like a stopped clock is right twice a day!  :D
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: Tracerfi on August 09, 2012, 07:18:05 AM
We already have a plan to cover that.  We are going to have at least 6 pilots trck and engage you so our buffs have a chance of at least getting ne on target.  Those brave 6 pilots will all be volunteers of course because their chance of surviving agains you are slim to none, but it maybe, by chance, with a little luck, one buff sneaks past you, then we are good with it.
i will mess with you while the other guys get the bombers


 I will make sure to announce my return on the fourms
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: captain1ma on August 09, 2012, 07:24:41 AM
its on tonight, our heroic axis pilots will make the allies very sorry they strayed too far over the English channel. all allied planes will be shot down. special sale tonight on allied spare parts, by the truckload. the axis will be primed and ready to go. we will have some fun shooting down the fat yankee dogs that fly the allied bombers and escorts!!

<S>
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: Stampf on August 09, 2012, 07:30:55 AM


Goggle up!


Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: Wildcat1 on August 09, 2012, 10:11:51 AM
There is one issue with the plane set for the Allies, the P-38L was not flown by any fighter groups in the 8th AF and should be removed from the plane set.


ack-ack

In the scenario, the P-38L is being used as the F-5E recon platform, and thus will have no ammo in their guns.

In this instance, he added it to attract more players and spur interest, same reason why he has the P-47N. It was worse in the MA, Luftwaffe OpFor was being engaged by Luftwaffe escort.
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: Tracerfi on August 09, 2012, 10:16:40 AM
 :salute you guys tonight ill try and get back in the game ASAP
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: ink on August 09, 2012, 01:07:01 PM
We already have a plan to cover that.  We are going to have at least 6 pilots trck and engage you so our buffs have a chance of at least getting ne on target.  Those brave 6 pilots will all be volunteers of course because their chance of surviving agains you are slim to none, but it maybe, by chance, with a little luck, one buff sneaks past you, then we are good with it.


 :rofl :rofl :rofl



I hope to be there tonight  :rock
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: Condor11 on August 09, 2012, 03:48:23 PM
Sadly i gotta miss tnights flight :( i got a last minute chance to watch my team (the chargers) take on my other team (green bay) and i had to take it. Best of luck 8th! Ill see ya next one for sure
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: AKKuya on August 09, 2012, 09:51:51 PM
The Buffs made it back to base with some escorts.  The Luftwaffe made a valiant run at defending.


I got the kill on Stampf.  :banana:
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: Guppy35 on August 09, 2012, 09:58:42 PM
Sorry I missed it.  A very lively 3 year old let the air out of my Mustangs tires!

Screenshots would be good :)
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: Wildcat1 on August 09, 2012, 10:29:02 PM
I flew a B-17 for the first time in a while, and somehow I managed 5 victories... :uhoh
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: Stampf on August 10, 2012, 05:46:36 PM

I got the kill on Stampf.  :banana:

Yes you did.  Made it all the way back to base on that one wing but couldn't make the landing this time.

Guess that makes us about, what...6 and 1 my friend?  :D

Nice work last night.  Nice and tight.  Flew into a wall of steel.

See ya tonight.

<S>

Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: LilMak on August 10, 2012, 08:38:33 PM
Was good fun last night. Got two valliant 190s and put rounds into 3 or 4 more Axis before I got tied up with Jetsom and lost a wing.   :salute
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: ink on August 11, 2012, 01:26:37 PM
Was good fun last night. Got two valliant 190s and put rounds into 3 or 4 more Axis before I got tied up with Jetsom and lost a wing.   :salute

I must say that was a very intense fight......... no hard feelings :salute

I was able to go on and kill 3 more after, but I had good ALT on them and they tried to climb up to me.... :t
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: LilMak on August 11, 2012, 03:36:08 PM
I must say that was a very intense fight......... no hard feelings :salute

I was able to go on and kill 3 more after, but I had good ALT on them and they tried to climb up to me.... :t
Absolutely no hard feelings bud. The fight was excellent. One of the best I've had in a while. When I get beat in a good fight I'll usually throw out a  :salute in a heartbeat which is what I should learn to do in these situations.

Unfortunately, I can never get past the single FE collision. Character flaw I guess. Supremely unfair IMO.
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: ink on August 11, 2012, 05:40:30 PM
Absolutely no hard feelings bud. The fight was excellent. One of the best I've had in a while. When I get beat in a good fight I'll usually throw out a  :salute in a heartbeat which is what I should learn to do in these situations.

Unfortunately, I can never get past the single FE collision. Character flaw I guess. Supremely unfair IMO.

it was a good one :D

I went and watched it and on my end we were no where near colliding....if I were to die/take damage it would have been wrong.....it is not unfair, it is the best that there is considering the internet.....

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 :salute
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: Scherf on August 11, 2012, 10:58:14 PM
Probably the best use of AH time I've ever had, despite having played for years.

Managed four kills in my 410 before Shredd ended my hubris.

On reviewing the film, I see I didn't seem to land a single MK 193 shell. Can't imagine how I amanged that. Will try to post some screeneis.
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: chris3 on August 12, 2012, 02:44:04 AM
moin

how much were onlyne this time?

cu christian
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: AKKuya on August 12, 2012, 04:46:51 AM
moin

how much were onlyne this time?

cu christian

50 players or so
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: LilMak on August 12, 2012, 06:20:59 AM
it was a good one :D

I went and watched it and on my end we were no where near colliding....if I were to die/take damage it would have been wrong.....it is not unfair, it is the best that there is considering the internet.....

 :salute
Not saying you should have taken damage. That wouldn't be fair either. IMO, if both FE didn't see it, there wasn't any collision. So, in this case, neither plane would've taken damage and the fight would've continued. The only time there should ever be a collision is when both players see it.

Try to imagine the last three screen shots you posted from my end... I'm slow and pulling hard to get around as you're coming over the top. I get slightly nose high in a stall with nearly zero airspeed and see your 109 barreling down on me. At that point, the only person who could've avoided that collision was you. But you saw something completely different on your end and no need to evade. Which I completely understand and you shouldn't be punished for that. When my wing comes off, however, it feels like a policeman just wrote me a ticket because someone hit my car while it was parked in a parking lot.
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: ink on August 12, 2012, 06:58:11 AM
Not saying you should have taken damage. That wouldn't be fair either. IMO, if both FE didn't see it, there wasn't any collision. So, in this case, neither plane would've taken damage and the fight would've continued. The only time there should ever be a collision is when both players see it.

Try to imagine the last three screen shots you posted from my end... I'm slow and pulling hard to get around as you're coming over the top. I get slightly nose high in a stall with nearly zero airspeed and see your 109 barreling down on me. At that point, the only person who could've avoided that collision was you. But you saw something completely different on your end and no need to evade. Which I completely understand and you shouldn't be punished for that. When my wing comes off, however, it feels like a policeman just wrote me a ticket because someone hit my car while it was parked in a parking lot.

I see what you are saying.....only if BOTH ends see a collision should damage be dealt out....I wonder if HTC has ever tried that :headscratch:
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: Lusche on August 12, 2012, 07:01:37 AM
I see what you are saying.....only if BOTH ends see a collision should damage be dealt out....I wonder if HTC has ever tried that :headscratch:



HT has knowlingly chosen to implemented the current system because he is fully aware of the shortcomings of all others. Unlike some players.  ;)
Title: Re: 9 Aug 2012 8th Air Force vs Luftwaffe Mission
Post by: LilMak on August 12, 2012, 08:43:38 AM
I see what you are saying.....only if BOTH ends see a collision should damage be dealt out....I wonder if HTC has ever tried that :headscratch:

That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm sure he's tried it and it didn't work because it seems (to me) the most equitable solution to a complex problem.