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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Bullwinkle on March 03, 2001, 11:03:00 PM
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I saw on another post that the D9 was pulling 395 mph with special wep or MW-50. And I heard that it won't be perked. I know I'll be flying it. It also looks to be fastest through all altitudes on the chart. I hope we don't perk it but then will everyone be flying it? What is it's bad points?
Thanks
Bullwinkle
"Don't touch my BullWinkle!"
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I must have missed pyro saying it wouldnt be perked.
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I used to gravitate towards the 190D9 in WBs, just because it could eek out a few yards closure on the 51D every couple of miles.
God only knows what it will do in AH but I do plan on finding out (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I only hope there is a decent terrain to try it over when it gets here.
Y
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Well I was tld by a person who has been reliable since Tour 11 with insider info that it wasn't going to be perked. This leads me to believe that maybe it won't have MW50? That would kinda negate the reason for putting the D9 in the game wouldn't it?
I suggest to perk it if Verm's cahrts are right. It apparently has the fastest speed curve of all current aircraft.
fscott
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Perk Chog - 500 perks
Perk P51D - 500 perks
Perk Niki - 500 perks
Perk FWD9 - 500 perks
Perk Yak9T - 500 perks
Perk La7 - 500 perks
Perk Bf109G10 - 500 perks
Perk Ta152 - 1000 perks
Perk P47M/N/whatever - 1000 perks
Perk Tempest - 1000 perks
I dont have a great idea about perk points but my actual experience says thats acceptable prices to keep ppl away from kamikazes engagements.
I think most aircrafts should be perked but not so high and not so low perk price. I mean dont give it easy but not so hard.
The way to make this sim more real is to give a reason for ppl to stay alive, if we can "buy" planes with few perk points it will not solve the problem.
The lastest versions of all variants should be perked.
*Plus*
Deaths in any plane: -5 perks
Wanna fly good(perked) planes? Stay alive.
And yet still many other planes options to fly without perk points needed and the non perked planes gives more perk points.
Im tired of when im rearming/refueling or just taking off or landing and a suicide dweeb fly into the flak to get a kill on my before the acks blows him in pieces.
Thats all.
shoot me
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Pirado
Messerschmitt Bf109
9./JG54 "Grüenherz"
Horrido!
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I can only say for sure : I will try it ! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Originally posted by fscott:
Well I was tld by a person who has been reliable since Tour 11 with insider info that it wasn't going to be perked. This leads me to believe that maybe it won't have MW50? That would kinda negate the reason for putting the D9 in the game wouldn't it?
I suggest to perk it if Verm's cahrts are right. It apparently has the fastest speed curve of all current aircraft.
fscott
But still P-51D would be more maneuverable..
No way you're going to get any 190D9 perked unless you perk P-51D also.
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I wonder what the perk system will cost.
500 points is ALOT! My avg sortie is 3-5 points and I have barely 800 perk points right now!
PS Get rid of that goofy terrain!
Y
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Has everyone seen the speed chart that Verm put up comparing the fastest planes? The 190d9 with MW50 boost is phenomenol! It FAR surpasses the P51D in all altitudes, and even the G10. I can't imagine it even being equal to the P51D. And as far as it not being as maneuverable as the P51D, I've heard quite different numbers. More like equal maneuverability.
(http://www.vermin.net/la7/la7-comparison-2.GIF)
fscott
[This message has been edited by fscott (edited 03-04-2001).]
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Perk Chog - 500 perks
Perk P51D - 500 perks
Perk Niki - 500 perks
Perk FWD9 - 500 perks
Perk Yak9T - 500 perks
Perk La7 - 500 perks
Perk Bf109G10 - 500 perks
Perk Ta152 - 1000 perks
Perk P47M/N/whatever - 1000 perks
Perk Tempest - 1000 perks
considering the average sortie seldom yields more than 3 points you would have to fly well over 150 sorties at 3 points each. 500 points for ANY FIGHTER is retarded. the average joe doesent fly for houres and hours a day and wouldent be able to afford a perk plane but MABY once a tour..that would SUCK.
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But still P-51D is faster than 190D9 over a. 21k
whats the problem?
Should we now perk 109G10 as well because it goes faster than P-51?
so, if you perk 190D9, then you would be screaming for perk of 109G10, then what we would have left?
F4u and P-51.... and you already did yell La-7 for perk.
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TheWobble wrote:
"500 points for ANY FIGHTER is retarded"
lol thanks TheWobble
ok, make it 100 points and the 1000 points drops to 500 imo.
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Pirado
Messerschmitt Bf109
9./JG54 "Grüenherz"
Horrido!
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Perk the Yak-9T? Whaaaa?!
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Actually i was thingking around 30-50.. thanik about it thats about 10-13 GOOD sorties. or about 20-28 so so sorties. thats alot of flights just to get 1 plane thats only SOMEWHAT better than the "free" ones.
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Originally posted by TheWobble:
Actually i was thingking around 30-50.. thanik about it thats about 10-13 GOOD sorties. or about 20-28 so so sorties. thats alot of flights just to get 1 plane thats only SOMEWHAT better than the "free" ones.
That has some more idea (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I don't think those should be too stright or there goes alot of fun.
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I hope everyone does fly it. Then it can be perked and we will have something else to squeak about besides the map, the LA7, the language filter, and why it's only 23 degrees this morning.
Fury
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I'll try it out once or twice.
Then I'll just enjoy killing it in my P-47. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Perk Chog - 500 perks
Perk P51D - 500 perks
Perk Niki - 500 perks
Perk FWD9 - 500 perks
Perk Yak9T - 500 perks
Perk La7 - 500 perks
Perk Bf109G10 - 500 perks
Perk Ta152 - 1000 perks
Perk P47M/N/whatever - 1000 perks
Perk Tempest - 1000 perks
There's 9 planes I would never fly... had just over 200 points last tour.
ok, make it 100 points and the 1000 points drops to 500 imo.
There's 9 planes I would have to pick from to fly once or twice a month- late in the month.
Actually i was thingking around 30-50.. thanik about it thats about 10-13 GOOD sorties. or about 20-28 so so sorties. thats alot of flights just to get 1 plane thats only SOMEWHAT better than the "free" ones.
That's 9 planes I might get to see a few times a month. Still, half the plane list would be unavailable most of the time. That seems extreme to me. I am currently in the "wait-and-see" mode, but rest assured any plan that eliminates half the plane set from me without some sort of compensation for doing so has effectively weeded me out. I don't mind missing out on the uber stuff, even take the big cannon birds away, but I would never stand for losing the P-51D, 109G-10, or the 190D-9.
I flew something like an hour a day this past tour, and have maybe 6 sorties this month. I average less than 5 points a sortie whether I land my kills or not. That means I might have as much as 18 points, but more likely in the 10 range (dunno, I only check it when one of these threads pops up). If I was a new guy starting up this would mean I would have to fly how many missions to get a 51D, 190D, or G10? 30 sorties?
Not trying to knock the legs out from under your concept, Pirado, but I hope HTC has a better plan. Even Wobble's modification won't bring it down to a tolerable level to me.
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Originally posted by dolomite:
Even Wobble's modification won't bring it down to a tolerable level to me.
Would I happen to be a cruel person, I might just say: "Fly more and fly better, thus gaining the needed perk points".
Most probably the perk point limits will lie somewhere rather low so that Joe Average can fly a perk plane now and then, too. This will lead to the top pilots having perk planes available quite often. I think this is all well and good because the perk planes are there to be flown, eventually, and not only by the very elite (and the people with too much time in their hands).
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Hmm... so, either we see perkie rides and their seal clubing pilots scattered around every day in large amounts or small amounts? What does it matter? Either the good pilots fly em most of the time and the newbies flyu em once in a while or... The good/score potato pilots fly em seldom and the newbies hardly....never?
LOL... If we just had em available the last day or so then everyone would get an equal chance to try em out in a "fair" arena. Squads could use em, as a squad. You would probly get all u wanted (or at least more) sorties by just having em only available the last 2 day or so of the tour to everyone.
lazs
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Would I happen to be a cruel person, I might just say: "Fly more and fly better, thus gaining the needed perk points".
It depends- you want to tell me what you mean specifically by "fly better"? As to flying more, I have no more time left.
I am not what you call a newbie, I can handle the fighters fairly well, but there is nothing else in the game that interests me. That is neither good nor bad, it just is. Your remark seems to be saying that somehow I am not playing "right". What is right? I usually pop 2 enemy per flight average, sometimes 3-4. How much better do I need to be? Are we going to say that I need to average 4, and have frequent sorties of 7-8 kills? Doesn't that seem a bit extreme?
Kieren
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What about the Tempest? Four Hispanos, very fast, fast climb, lots of ord. This may be the next dweeb plane. Dora will take some skill to fly well.
ra
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Tempest will be a perk. Latest word is that the Dora will not be.
Just the fact that the Tempest will be a perk means that the arena will not be full of them.
We have no idea what the prices will be for the perk rides yet, so lets calm down until we know.
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At least theres one big difference between tempest and dora: turbo laser cannons and regular peashot cannons.