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Title: Picture of new Stealth Helo over at the Aviationist
Post by: Gman on August 08, 2012, 03:48:00 AM
They have a picture of what is claimed to be the "Stealth Helo" that was destroyed after the OBL raid.  There are people for and against it just being a mockup for a movie regarding the OBL 10 year hunt, but some others in the aviation world are claiming that it is the real McCoy on various aviation websites.  Either way, pretty cool picture even if it is likely a mockup for the "Zero Dark THirty" movie, which I believe it personally to be.

Pic in question:

(http://cencio4.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/blurred.jpg)
Title: Re: Picture of new Stealth Helo over at the Aviationist
Post by: Grayeagle on August 08, 2012, 06:51:20 AM
No reason they could not build one on the same premise as the F-117

One of the glaring exceptions in the photo is the guns stickin out .. they would generate more of a radar return than the entire helicopter from forward 180 degree angles, along with the rotor hub from any upper 180 angle.

Ideal solution is to use ordnance from an internal bay .. pops out to fire then goes max stealth again. .. and needs much better angles on that rotor hub.

Just my 2 copper.

-Frank aka GE
 13+ yrs as ECM troop on the line and another 3yrs as 'defensive avionics' Engineering tech bein paid more than my CO was right after I got out.

 -just sayin (tm Pasha)
Title: Re: Picture of new Stealth Helo over at the Aviationist
Post by: Maverick on August 08, 2012, 09:22:13 AM
If you are referring to the 4 long tubular objects sticking out the front, I seriously doubt they are guns. It looks like they copied the pitot tube design from the F117. Kind of silly given the F117 would be far more dependant on the computers to maintain controlled flight than any helo would be. I suppose they thought it looked "cool".

If it is supposed to be an attack helo it would have flex guns rather than fixed mounted weapons. Far more useful in that configuration than 4 guns that can only fire straight ahead.

I'd imagine the rotor disk would still be rather hard to hide electronically as well.
Title: Re: Picture of new Stealth Helo over at the Aviationist
Post by: Delirium on August 08, 2012, 10:37:14 AM
I hope that is a mock up, otherwise the lack of security at the Helo's location is pretty bad.

"Hey, Lou! Come take a picture of me in front of the super secret helicopter. Yea, I promise that I won't post it on facebook or anything."
Title: Re: Picture of new Stealth Helo over at the Aviationist
Post by: Jappa52 on August 08, 2012, 11:22:10 AM
movie prop
Title: Re: Picture of new Stealth Helo over at the Aviationist
Post by: ink on August 08, 2012, 11:25:05 AM
I hope that is a mock up, otherwise the lack of security at the Helo's location is pretty bad.

"Hey, Lou! Come take a picture of me in front of the super secret helicopter. Yea, I promise that I won't post it on facebook or anything."

 :rofl
Title: Re: Picture of new Stealth Helo over at the Aviationist
Post by: curry1 on August 08, 2012, 11:43:01 AM
That can't be real.
Title: Re: Picture of new Stealth Helo over at the Aviationist
Post by: Nathan60 on August 08, 2012, 12:06:50 PM
That can't be real.
Neither are those
Looks kinda small to be hauling  a bunch of troops around but I defiantly dont know. Just  an uninformed opinion
Title: Re: Picture of new Stealth Helo over at the Aviationist
Post by: 007Rusty on August 08, 2012, 12:12:43 PM
hmmmmmmm   :headscratch:
Title: Re: Picture of new Stealth Helo over at the Aviationist
Post by: curry1 on August 08, 2012, 01:21:00 PM
Neither are those
Looks kinda small to be hauling  a bunch of troops around but I definitely don't know. Just  an uninformed opinion


"Neither are those"?


Surely you don't mean Kate Upton.
Title: Re: Picture of new Stealth Helo over at the Aviationist
Post by: Nathan60 on August 08, 2012, 01:34:08 PM
thx for the spelling check and I didn't  realise that was kate upton,  I kinda have  to keep NSFW(ish) stuff on the dl its bad enough Im  crusin the forums.
Title: Re: Picture of new Stealth Helo over at the Aviationist
Post by: cpxxx on August 08, 2012, 04:53:18 PM
Movie prop, but what movie?
Title: Re: Picture of new Stealth Helo over at the Aviationist
Post by: Tracerfi on August 08, 2012, 04:53:46 PM
I hope that is a mock up, otherwise the lack of security at the Helo's location is pretty bad.

"Hey, Lou! Come take a picture of me in front of the super secret helicopter. Yea, I promise that I won't post it on facebook or anything."
:rofl :rofl :rofl  :aok
Title: Re: Picture of new Stealth Helo over at the Aviationist
Post by: Rino on August 08, 2012, 10:22:57 PM
     Definitely looks like Hollywood's idea of a stealth helicopter.  Plenty of hard edges to get a return on just in the cockpit alone.
Also no gold reflective canopy so the instrument panel and interior isn't very "stealthy".

     Those would also be the biggest pitot static tubes I have ever seen on any aircraft, much less a helo.

     It's been a little while, but I seem to recall that the special ops helicopter that crashed was a modified Blackhawk, this illustration seems to
agree with me.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-i4wPwPtVsKM/TcNaVMLc9nI/AAAAAAAAHkg/Fv8RWO4S8xo/s1600/bin%2Bladen%2Bhelicopter%2Bdestroyed%252Cbin%2Bladen%2Bhelicopter%252Cbin%2Bladen%2Bhelicopter%2Bcrash%2Bpicture%252Cbin%2Bladen%2Braid%252Cbin%2Bladen%2Braid%2Bphoto%252Cbin%2Bladen%2Braid%2Bpicture%252Cbin%2Bladen%2Braid%2Bhelicopter%252Cbin%2Bladen%2Braid%2Bphotos%252Cphotos%2Bof%2Bbi-776811.jpg)

    
Title: Re: Picture of new Stealth Helo over at the Aviationist
Post by: Donzo on August 08, 2012, 10:36:32 PM
Air Wolf II
Title: Re: Picture of new Stealth Helo over at the Aviationist
Post by: Jappa52 on August 09, 2012, 02:05:34 AM
Probably about the death of OBL. You know... when Obama fly's that stealth helicopter into Pakistan at tree top level. Puts it in auto hover over the compound then fast ropes into the courtyard with a 1911 and a kbar in his teeth. Kicks in the front door with his Air Jordans and kills OBL. Then he climbs back up the rope with Bin Laden's body and heads home, making it in time to play 18 on his favorite course....
Title: Re: Picture of new Stealth Helo over at the Aviationist
Post by: Rich46yo on August 09, 2012, 03:53:16 AM
Probably about the death of OBL. You know... when Obama fly's that stealth helicopter into Pakistan at tree top level. Puts it in auto hover over the compound then fast ropes into the courtyard with a 1911 and a kbar in his teeth. Kicks in the front door with his Air Jordans and kills OBL. Then he climbs back up the rope with Bin Laden's body and heads home, making it in time to play 18 on his favorite course....

Wasnt he, at the time, prosecuting the interrogators for waterboarding the terr's who gave up the info on Osama?

It takes a brave man to send other peoples kids into combat. Most of all someone who'd never even worn a Boy Scout uniform.
Title: Re: Picture of new Stealth Helo over at the Aviationist
Post by: danny76 on August 09, 2012, 09:40:33 AM
    Definitely looks like Hollywood's idea of a stealth helicopter.  Plenty of hard edges to get a return on just in the cockpit alone.
Also no gold reflective canopy so the instrument panel and interior isn't very "stealthy".

     Those would also be the biggest pitot static tubes I have ever seen on any aircraft, much less a helo.

     It's been a little while, but I seem to recall that the special ops helicopter that crashed was a modified Blackhawk, this illustration seems to
agree with me.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-i4wPwPtVsKM/TcNaVMLc9nI/AAAAAAAAHkg/Fv8RWO4S8xo/s1600/bin%2Bladen%2Bhelicopter%2Bdestroyed%252Cbin%2Bladen%2Bhelicopter%252Cbin%2Bladen%2Bhelicopter%2Bcrash%2Bpicture%252Cbin%2Bladen%2Braid%252Cbin%2Bladen%2Braid%2Bphoto%252Cbin%2Bladen%2Braid%2Bpicture%252Cbin%2Bladen%2Braid%2Bhelicopter%252Cbin%2Bladen%2Braid%2Bphotos%252Cphotos%2Bof%2Bbi-776811.jpg)

    

I also heard from a pretty reliable source that it was a modified Blackhawk
Title: Re: Picture of new Stealth Helo over at the Aviationist
Post by: Jappa52 on August 09, 2012, 01:12:25 PM
Wasnt he, at the time, prosecuting the interrogators for waterboarding the terr's who gave up the info on Osama?

It takes a brave man to send other peoples kids into combat. Most of all someone who'd never even worn a Boy Scout uniform.

Yep. But hey... he and his wife (oh yeah, kids too) have had one hell of a 4 year vacation.
Title: Re: Picture of new Stealth Helo over at the Aviationist
Post by: Rob52240 on August 16, 2012, 11:16:06 AM
It looks like a movie prop to me.  The interior of the cockpit seems to have some shovels on the left side.

I believe this is the same hanger the army uses to house the EM-50
(http://www.outsideourbubble.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/090416-08-GMC_EM50_Urban_Assault_Vehicle_from_Stripes.jpg)