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Title: Severe fps drop when firing
Post by: Froggy on August 12, 2012, 08:01:07 PM
This tends to happen mostly in GVs, wirbels inparticular, but M16s are bad as well. I'll be scooting along getting 70-75fps, but the second I pull the trigger and shoot at anything, my frame rate comes danger close to single digits. Usually to between 10 and 15fps. I know I'm on a laptop, but I wouldn't think a few tracers would kill 60fps! Especially with the graphics turned down as low as they are! Any idea why there is such a HUGE draw? This can be especially frustrating when you have someone in your sights but can't follow them due to video lag. I can provide a dxdiag if need be, let me know.

-Froggy
Title: Re: Severe fps drop when firing
Post by: ImADot on August 12, 2012, 11:07:38 PM
Sounds like you're running out of resources, and in particular, when the gun sounds need to be loaded and played.
Title: Re: Severe fps drop when firing
Post by: Noir on August 13, 2012, 03:47:14 AM
for some reason firing the whirbel is very resource intensive :headscratch:

try turning the gun effects off
Title: Re: Severe fps drop when firing
Post by: Tracerfi on August 13, 2012, 07:29:09 AM
try turning the tracers off  :salute
Title: Re: Severe fps drop when firing
Post by: Skuzzy on August 13, 2012, 08:58:14 AM
A DXDIAG output could be helpful.  It may be more than just a resource issue.  Multiple sound devices on the same interrupt could cause it.  Sound devices configured to run full hardware acceleration when they have no hardware to help with sounds could contribute to it as well.
Title: Re: Severe fps drop when firing
Post by: Froggy on August 13, 2012, 10:14:47 AM
www.suprs.net/flash/dxdiag.txt

-Froggy
Title: Re: Severe fps drop when firing
Post by: Skuzzy on August 13, 2012, 11:23:25 AM
Ok it is a resource issue.

Your video chip only has 256MB of dedicated video RAM, part of which is being used up by Windows 7.

You need to crank down all the graphic settings (uncheck all options in Options->Graphic Details->Advanced, and check all the "Disable" options in Options->Graphic Details, and uncheck any "Enable" options there as well), in the game, along with using a "Maximum Texture Size" less than 1024.

It may not look good, but it should solve the problem.
Title: Re: Severe fps drop when firing
Post by: Froggy on August 13, 2012, 11:35:25 AM
Everything with the exception of the terrain bump map was turned off, and a max texture size of 512. That's why the frame rates were as high as they were to begin with  :cry
Title: Re: Severe fps drop when firing
Post by: Skuzzy on August 13, 2012, 12:33:22 PM
I assume it will only pause the first time you press the trigger and is okay after that.

Try disabling "Superfetch", in the system services, that might help as "Superfetch" is designed to use all available memory.  That can contribute to slow load times for sounds and other types of data.

Are you running Norton or McAfee on that computer?
Title: Re: Severe fps drop when firing
Post by: Froggy on August 13, 2012, 06:24:48 PM
No, it is slow until I let off the trigger. I noticed that bomber guns will also make it stutter, but not AS bad. I'll try the superfetch service and get back to you. I don't run Norton or McAfee.
Title: Re: Severe fps drop when firing
Post by: Skuzzy on August 14, 2012, 06:07:39 AM
Make sure you also have the power management for the computer disabled, or set to "high performance".
Title: Re: Severe fps drop when firing
Post by: blazer65 on August 16, 2012, 11:47:47 AM
I had this problem.  All I had to do was turn off weapons effects and it was fixed.  I didn't really even notice a difference in the graphics.  Tracers still showed, flames still showed coming out of the guns, and I still see hits on enemy planes, so I'm not exactly sure what effects I turned off, but whatever it was it fixed the frame rate drop I had when firing.
Title: Re: Severe fps drop when firing
Post by: 100Coogn on August 16, 2012, 12:09:01 PM
I had this problem.  All I had to do was turn off weapons effects and it was fixed.  I didn't really even notice a difference in the graphics.  Tracers still showed, flames still showed coming out of the guns, and I still see hits on enemy planes, so I'm not exactly sure what effects I turned off, but whatever it was it fixed the frame rate drop I had when firing.

I believe it disables smoke from you guns, empty shell ejection and maybe muzzle flash.

 Coogan
Title: Re: Severe fps drop when firing
Post by: blazer65 on August 16, 2012, 02:10:42 PM
Not muzzle flash, I still get that.  Not sure about smoke or shell casings tho.  I also thought that maybe when weapon effects are turned on, it creates each individual bullet?  I would guess that would take up alot of power to do that, so maybe thats why turning weapon effects off has such a good effect on the frame rates.
Title: Re: Severe fps drop when firing
Post by: Skuzzy on August 16, 2012, 02:56:07 PM
Not muzzle flash, I still get that.  Not sure about smoke or shell casings tho.  I also thought that maybe when weapon effects are turned on, it creates each individual bullet?  I would guess that would take up alot of power to do that, so maybe thats why turning weapon effects off has such a good effect on the frame rates.

Every bullet is modeled, no matter the setting.

Weapon effects are particles, casings, and possibly other things which have no bearing on the effectiveness of the rounds.  They are just superfluous graphics being disabled.
Title: Re: Severe fps drop when firing
Post by: Froggy on August 25, 2012, 08:33:47 PM
Sorry for the delay. I turned off weapon effects and the framerate issue disappeared. I can live without shells being chucked and the eye candy. Now I can get back to KILLING  :rock
Title: Re: Severe fps drop when firing
Post by: 68falcon on August 26, 2012, 07:52:01 PM
sorry wrong thread