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Title: How about more Tank Destroyers
Post by: FireDawg on August 17, 2012, 01:02:33 AM
It would be nice to have additional tank destroyers. The STuGIII, M10 Wolverine, Jgpanther, just to name a few. They were very much part of Armor History. Currently there is only one to choice from, the M18 Hellcat. What would be the possibility to add a few in the future?

FireDawg
Title: Re: How about more Tank Destroyers
Post by: Butcher on August 17, 2012, 01:16:34 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing the Jagdpanzer IV for two reasons - early version had a KwK L/48 which is the same gun the Panzer IV H had, later versions had a L/70 - same gun the panther had.

Both versions had well over 700 produced, one wouldn't be perked, other would - very little differences between the two otherwise.

This would be a nice test to see how well people use turretless tank destroyers.
Title: Re: How about more Tank Destroyers
Post by: MrMeanie on August 17, 2012, 02:48:03 AM
Yes more tank's i don't care what they are but i want more oh and IN before bomb****s come in and demand more useless flying thing's.
Title: Re: How about more Tank Destroyers
Post by: Eric19 on August 17, 2012, 05:19:53 AM
+1 I love the stug3 and the jadgpanzer but I love my M10 wolvrine or we could settle for the M36 slugger which had a 90mm gun  :D
Title: Re: How about more Tank Destroyers
Post by: Tank-Ace on August 18, 2012, 09:22:08 PM
Best test of turretless TD's I can think of would be to get the SdKfz 251/22, as far as time spent on a potential failure goes. Purely because they don't have to model the casemate on the Jagdpanzer IV.

Just an SdKfz 251 with a PaK 40 mounted on the top.



If time/effort spent is of less concern, I would say Jagdpanzer IV, or Jagdpanther is the best we could do. I would vote for the Jagdpanther, purely because even if it ends up being less usefull than anticipated, it could still have a role as a dedicated Tiger-buster with its 88mm L'71.
Title: Re: How about more Tank Destroyers
Post by: Raphael on August 18, 2012, 10:25:26 PM
Woah! I love PaK 40! use it all the time in another game, didn't know there was one on top of the 251! this looks so sexy!
(http://www.armorama.com/photos/feature/3537/header.jpg)
I want the bike modelled aswell! :old:
Title: Re: How about more Tank Destroyers
Post by: R 105 on August 19, 2012, 07:23:00 AM
Woah! I love PaK 40! use it all the time in another game, didn't know there was one on top of the 251! this looks so sexy!
(http://www.armorama.com/photos/feature/3537/header.jpg)
I want the bike modelled aswell! :old:
This would be a good addition to the game and it has as much armor protection as an M-18 which don't recommend it much but the gun is very good. More armor of any kind is fine by me.
Title: Re: How about more Tank Destroyers
Post by: icepac on August 19, 2012, 08:04:51 AM
I want that bicycle in game.
Title: Re: How about more Tank Destroyers
Post by: BaldEagl on August 19, 2012, 11:33:50 AM
I see the German engineers went all out including the pail.
Title: Re: How about more Tank Destroyers
Post by: Tank-Ace on August 19, 2012, 02:00:49 PM
Seriously though, this would probably be about the quickest way we can test the effectivness of turretless TD's.


It would have the optics, firpower, and limited traverse of the vehicles it would be representing. It would trade armor for speed, and small size (you could hide inside of undestroyed barns, and you would be near invisible at extended ranges)
Title: Re: How about more Tank Destroyers
Post by: Eric19 on August 19, 2012, 02:04:57 PM
now what was that post I posted about oh say 3 months ago about the 251 and the Pak 40 :D lol +1 gimme my Pak 40 HTC or else.......................
Title: Re: How about more Tank Destroyers
Post by: tmetal on August 20, 2012, 02:31:09 PM
jagdpanzer 38(t) please  :pray
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee24/tmetal_blk/Planes%20of%20fame%20airshow%202008/anti-tankgun.jpg)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee24/tmetal_blk/Planes%20of%20fame%20airshow%202008/biggunontreads.jpg)
Title: Re: How about more Tank Destroyers
Post by: Eric19 on August 20, 2012, 04:54:06 PM
jagdpanzer 38T???? oh you mean the hetzer :D
Title: Re: How about more Tank Destroyers
Post by: RngFndr on August 20, 2012, 05:47:21 PM
Need more EW Tanks and Vehicles..
Another TD??? Sure, how about Marder I II III !V..
Germany made Massive numbers of them..
(massive= relative for German prod figures)

Ya know, German SP guns out numbered the Tanks in the Field..
Just sayin!
Title: Re: How about more Tank Destroyers
Post by: Eric19 on August 20, 2012, 06:04:45 PM
marder had very thin armor I do know it could mount a long 76mm or 75mm or a the 50mm L60
Title: Re: How about more Tank Destroyers
Post by: Megalodon on August 20, 2012, 06:06:58 PM
(http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/6123/b2wawx6.jpg)
 :aok
Title: Re: How about more Tank Destroyers
Post by: RngFndr on August 20, 2012, 06:59:53 PM
marder had very thin armor I do know it could mount a long 76mm or 75mm or a the 50mm L60

Should make a good perk farmer for expert Panzertruppen then! From the 42 offensive on, German
tankers relied heavily on them vs the T34 and KV.. Since there were never enough numbers of the
4F to go around..
Title: Re: How about more Tank Destroyers
Post by: Butcher on August 20, 2012, 07:40:28 PM
marder had very thin armor I do know it could mount a long 76mm or 75mm or a the 50mm L60

Marder was a stop gap tank while Panther and Tiger were coming into production - idea was to slap something together long enough until these beasts could be put into play - i.e kursk.

We basically have an M-18 already, it would do 25mph and have an half decent 75mm gun that really wouldn't be any different other then being a slower m18.

For perk Reasons, Marder would be a higher eny TD maybe in the 25-35 range.

Title: Re: How about more Tank Destroyers
Post by: Eric19 on August 20, 2012, 07:54:45 PM
butcher speaks the truth on this one........................ :salute
Title: Re: How about more Tank Destroyers
Post by: RngFndr on August 20, 2012, 08:32:01 PM
Well, as far as I can tell..
EW Warstart Sept39-Dec41
MW Dec41-June44
LW June44-Victory day

Ain't gonna see to many M18's in the EW or MW Hummmm??
We have late war versions and Ubertanks coming out our ears..

But the ONLY EW tanks, are the Pz4 shorty, which was never
available in large numbers, even in Barbarossa up to Dec 41 at Moskow..
Should be perked heavily in EW..

T34 which was completely unknown until a few appeared in July41..
Was only available in very small numbers in the summer of 41..
So uber it really should be perked beyond orbit!

I'd just love to have some genuine EW tanks..
But I guess uberitis is eternal..