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Title: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: Bino on August 22, 2012, 08:15:56 PM

The September FSO is "Leaning Into France".

"In the Spring of 1941, the British RAF adopted a strategy called 'Leaning Into France.'  The RAF sent fighter sweeps as well as relatively small groups of bombers or fighter-bombers with large numbers of escorting fighters.  This was designed to draw the German Luftwaffe into a battle of attrition and to keep Axis forces committed to defending targets on the Continent.

At about the same time, the German Luftwaffe mounted hit-and-run raids on targets along the English coast, in an attempt to tie down Allied defensive forces."

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Frame 1 -- Friday Sept 07, 2012
Frame 2 -- Friday Sept 14
Frame 3 -- Friday Sept 21

Frames begin on Friday at 11:00 PM EDT (Saturday at 03:00 UTC/GMT).

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Squad updates and registration are open starting now and ending the evening of Friday August 31.

While squad side preferences will be taken into account where possible, please understand that side balance has to have priority.

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Full info here:

http://www.ahevents.org/fso-current-next-event.html

Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: ELD66 on August 23, 2012, 12:00:44 AM
Looks like fun.
 :salute
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: Tracerfi on August 23, 2012, 01:37:34 PM
11:00 PM bad idea
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: Spikes on August 23, 2012, 02:14:36 PM
11:00 PM bad idea

FSO has been at 11pm est for as long as I've been playing this game.
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: ImADot on August 23, 2012, 03:26:35 PM
11:00 PM bad idea

FSO has been at 11pm est for as long as I've been playing this game.

It was debated a few months ago; it will not change anytime soon.
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: Squire on August 23, 2012, 03:35:08 PM
Looks like a good one.
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: Krusty on August 23, 2012, 04:21:10 PM
The following may not carry bombs:

109F4

Actually, I take issue at this... It was precisely the 109F that was used for these raids on British targets. We even have a skin for it in-game. They were the high-speed attackers, and once they dropped their bombs would look for a fight before heading home (it wasn't just hit and run, it was to also cause losses).

I REALLY wish HTC would add the bomb back to the F-4. Nothing you can do about it, but I hate that we are missing this. The only other jabo you have is the 109E, and with a bomb it's slow enough to be caught by anything. Especially the skies full of SpitVbs that will be roaming.

If one thing's been proven time and again, it's that in groups the 109E is totally outclassed by hordes of hurr2s and spit5s. Every scenario or setup that uses them proves this in some way.


On another note, you may need to add the 110C as an optional just so the LW has the cannon firepower to bring down the bombers. Those B-25s will soak up more ammo than an entire flight of 109Es can offer.
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: daddog on August 23, 2012, 10:32:40 PM
Nice Bino!  :aok

I agree the Me110c would be nice. Was it around then? I am not sure I have my AC use/date charts any more.
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: Krusty on August 23, 2012, 10:52:15 PM
Technically they had moved on, or were moving on, to Bf110D, E, and F models, which were more powerful and possibly faster and better performing, BUT, not as much as the G. The closest we have would be the 110C. I don't know how many were fielded and in what numbers, but it was just a suggestions. I know they were quite common in Africa at the same time.
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: Bino on August 24, 2012, 05:21:26 AM
Nice Bino!  :aok

I agree the Me110c would be nice. Was it around then? I am not sure I have my AC use/date charts any more.

Thanks!   I hope you enjoy it.  :salute

According to my reading, and this unit history web site (http://www.ww2.dk/), none of the Zerstörergeschwadern were in France at that time.
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: perdue3 on August 24, 2012, 10:04:10 PM
Great looking setup bino. Looks like a blast!
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: Stampf on August 26, 2012, 08:58:37 PM
Nice job here, Bino.

Looks very fun, and certainly some challenging matchups there.  I forsee some serious white knuckled fights.

 :airplane:

Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: Bino on August 27, 2012, 02:39:13 PM
Thanks, gents!  I hope you have fun.  :salute

And a gentle reminder to all FSO squad COs: side and ride preference updates are open now and will close the evening of Friday August 31st. 
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: Nathan60 on August 27, 2012, 03:03:24 PM
11:00 PM bad idea


Not nearly as bad as putting the scenerion on Saturday at 3 pm EST  during football season.  :bhead
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: Shifty on August 27, 2012, 03:38:21 PM
Looking forward to it Beans. Nice work!

 :salute
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: Bino on August 28, 2012, 08:29:24 AM

Although none of the Zerstörergeschwadern were in France during that Spring, Erprobungsgruppe 210 did fly a mix of 109E and 110C/D from Abbeville until about May, at which point they were packed off eastwards to prepare for the invasion of Russia.  So, strictly speaking, there were around twenty or so 110s in France in April 1941.  Too small a number to model at this scale, IMHO.

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According to my reading, and this unit history web site (http://www.ww2.dk/), none of the Zerstörergeschwadern were in France at that time.
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: RSLQK186 on August 28, 2012, 09:47:30 AM
Bino sir, have you set a fuelburnrate? I cannot find it in the writeup here or on the AHEvents site.
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: Bino on August 28, 2012, 10:20:47 AM
Bino sir, have you set a fuelburnrate? I cannot find it in the writeup here or on the AHEvents site.

The standard default FSO FuelBurnRateMult is 1.0
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: Bannor on August 28, 2012, 10:41:39 AM
 :bhead
I have updated FATE Squads information. My computer at home is fried so I can't say for certain that I will be able to participate next month. I know that we are getting close to being CiC for an event, I'm just not sure if it's this one or not. If so, I would like for it to pass until the next event if that is ok. I'm not certain when I can get things going again, but that should be enough time to get my self squared away.  :aok

 :salute
Bannor
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: Bino on August 28, 2012, 10:58:06 AM
:bhead
I have updated FATE Squads information. My computer at home is fried so I can't say for certain that I will be able to participate next month. I know that we are getting close to being CiC for an event, I'm just not sure if it's this one or not. If so, I would like for it to pass until the next event if that is ok. I'm not certain when I can get things going again, but that should be enough time to get my self squared away.  :aok

 :salute
Bannor

Copy that.  Good luck with the fried silicon. 
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: tunnelrat on September 07, 2012, 02:37:51 PM
Is there a reason the British coastal radar would not be operational in 1941?
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: perdue3 on September 07, 2012, 03:22:05 PM
Is there a reason the British coastal radar would not be operational in 1941?


Take note...it wasnt KN.
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: Bino on September 07, 2012, 03:32:47 PM
Is there a reason the British coastal radar would not be operational in 1941?

Radar is modeled in this setup by the bases flashing when an enemy plane is within 20 miles.
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: Flifast on September 07, 2012, 06:02:06 PM
I keep getting a host monster when I click on the FSO link?  404 something?  I just want to know what type of 109 I will be shooting down?

Fli
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: BFOOT1 on September 07, 2012, 07:03:01 PM
I keep getting a host monster when I click on the FSO link?  404 something?  I just want to know what type of 109 I will be shooting down?

Fli
109 F4 I do believe
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: ELD66 on September 07, 2012, 07:27:58 PM
109F and 109E
Title: Re: September FSO : Leaning Into France - April 1941
Post by: ImADot on September 07, 2012, 07:33:20 PM
I just want to know what type of 109 I will be shooting down?

Stupid ones...

 :devil