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Title: Torpedo Drop Speed
Post by: EagleDNY on August 22, 2012, 08:57:18 PM
While I am still wishing for a full update on torpedoes in this game, one simple wish would be for the late war Mk.13 torpedoes on the Avengers to at least have a proper drop speed and altitude modeled. 

From the History of US Naval Operations in WW2 / Leyte (vol 12) by Samuel Eliot Morison - Pg 287 / Battle off Samar:
"When delivering torpedo attacks, the pilots followed standard doctrine, using plenty of altitude (10,000 feet and upward), a high speed approach, steep dive, and low, fast, jinking recovery.  The ring-tail, one-ton torpedoes that they carried were well adapted for these tactics, since they could be dropped from 800 feet altitude and at speeds up to 290 knots."

A quick look over at navweaps.com http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WTUS_WWII.htm (http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WTUS_WWII.htm) shows the late war Mk.13 with even better launch parameters than that:
These problems were greatly reduced by the latter years of the war.  Torpedoes had fin stabilizers, nose drag rings and tail shroud rings added, all of which worked to slow the torpedo after it was dropped so that it struck the water nose-first and at an acceptable speed.  These improved the drop characteristics such that the recommended aircraft maximum launch parameters were increased to a height of 2,400 feet (730 m) and a speed of 410 knots.

We might see more people inclined to try torpedo attacks if they did not have to make that suicidal slow approach into CV ack at 200 ft.  Even with the launch parameters increased, a torpedo bomber is still going to have to get pretty close to get that 33.5 knot torpedo to hit a CV that runs full out all the time, so I do not see this as adversely affecting the game balance.   
Title: Re: Torpedo Drop Speed
Post by: USRanger on August 22, 2012, 11:20:02 PM
Me like. :aok
Title: Re: Torpedo Drop Speed
Post by: kvuo75 on August 23, 2012, 08:54:21 AM
We might see more people inclined to try torpedo attacks if they did not have to make that suicidal slow approach into CV ack at 200 ft. 

already do not..


http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/torpedoes/torpedoes.htm

up to 960 ft and 200mph.

not quite as fast as the torp you mention, but its not the 200' everyone thinks it is.
Title: Re: Torpedo Drop Speed
Post by: Hap on August 23, 2012, 09:05:12 AM
 :aok
Title: Re: Torpedo Drop Speed
Post by: bangsbox on August 23, 2012, 10:53:16 AM
I'd love to see a lot more realism in torps
Title: Re: Torpedo Drop Speed
Post by: guncrasher on August 23, 2012, 02:11:24 PM


We might see more people inclined to try torpedo attacks if they did not have to make that suicidal slow approach into CV ack at 200 ft



we have sank all destroyers and cruisers in a cv using nothing but the b25 just so we could vulched the crap out of the cv.  but the only reason we were able to do it was numbers there was 10 or 15 of us doing it.

same with torpedoes, you can sink the cv easily but you need numbers.  so you can try to change the rules, speed etc. but most likely you gonna die by ack if going alone.


semp
Title: Re: Torpedo Drop Speed
Post by: Tracerfi on August 23, 2012, 02:17:21 PM


we have sank all destroyers and cruisers in a cv using nothing but the b25 just so we could vulched the crap out of the cv.  but the only reason we were able to do it was numbers there was 10 or 15 of us doing it.

same with torpedoes, you can sink the cv easily but you need numbers.  so you can try to change the rules, speed etc. but most likely you gonna die by ack if going alone.


semp
B25H Ultimate CV killer
Title: Re: Torpedo Drop Speed
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 23, 2012, 02:48:11 PM
B25H Ultimate CV killer

No it's not. 

ack-ack
Title: Re: Torpedo Drop Speed
Post by: Rino on August 23, 2012, 03:49:04 PM
     B-25H Ultimate CV Target Drone?  :D
Title: Re: Torpedo Drop Speed
Post by: Eric19 on August 23, 2012, 09:06:48 PM
my PT boat is ultimate cv killer at least when I have the trops it is :devil
Title: Re: Torpedo Drop Speed
Post by: 321BAR on August 25, 2012, 08:43:57 AM
B25H Ultimate CV killer
looks at my gunner kills from a few months back.... :lol