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Title: Perks if you kill a ship but die!!
Post by: bangsbox on August 25, 2012, 02:16:05 AM
It's very difficult to torp a ship and not many even try. What is even worse is when I do make hit I usually die 90% of the time before torps hit. I sit in tower and see ship sunk but I get nothing for my efforts. The way things are you need to be alive when torps hit or you get no perks. I can under stand the "you were dead; you get nothing". There has to  a better way, we rarely see people try to torp ships as it is and not getting perks when you actually hit a ship and got a torp off before you were killed, sitting tower with fingers crossed, and not even getting to see the boom (best part) at least perks should be earned.
Title: Re: Perks if you kill a ship but die!!
Post by: guncrasher on August 25, 2012, 03:55:18 AM
yeah or the old you kill take off both wings off a plane or the tail but you die before the other guy hits the ground so you get nothing for it.  this is one reason why i never go up to like 20k some guys will ride their 1/2 a plane and hope that whoever shot them down will die before they hit the ground.

or the old you really destroy an airplane low on the ground but for some reason they pieces left dont explode when they hit the ground and he gets a ditch thus denying the other player a kill.


semp
Title: Re: Perks if you kill a ship but die!!
Post by: Chalenge on August 25, 2012, 05:56:00 AM
Yes I love that one. You see this at altitude (in part) when you cut the tail and wings off a plane but it climbs pretty good (maybe not the 3k it seem like) before falling. When that happens near the ground and they already have momentum toward the ground they may slow down and land softer but in all I have only seen one pilot survive that way.

The torp thing is something to think about but like troops taking a field after the goon is dead? The only reward should be the capture. Otherwise every tank you shoot has to go to concrete to land any where on the map because (by extension) if you shoot one and die then you also want victory (perks) after death? Its really the same thing you know?
Title: Re: Perks if you kill a ship but die!!
Post by: icepac on August 25, 2012, 10:04:10 AM
Will this affect the guys who run 7 one-way tyhpoon missions and dive in with thier bombs?
Title: Re: Perks if you kill a ship but die!!
Post by: The Fugitive on August 25, 2012, 11:43:30 AM
No, if they change it back all you'll see is guys upping PT after PT firering off all the torps, only to tower and repeat until the CV gets sunk.

It was changed for a reason. Best bet is to LEARN how to torp a ship.   Not that any one really want to take the TIME to learn  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Perks if you kill a ship but die!!
Post by: Lusche on August 25, 2012, 11:51:24 AM
No, if they change it back all you'll see is guys upping PT after PT firering off all the torps, only to tower and repeat until the CV gets sunk.


The change that did effectively stop this was the disappearance of any ords if you reup. This made spawn,fire, tower, respawn routine impossible. If it were just a matter of score, it would still happen.
Title: Re: Perks if you kill a ship but die!!
Post by: bangsbox on August 25, 2012, 05:41:55 PM
i just want perks for the 2 out of 10 times i actually hit the cv. torping is hard enough at least you should get perks when u accomplish something. and not the lawn dart tiffy there was nothing accomplish in his death even is his bomb hits
Title: Re: Perks if you kill a ship but die!!
Post by: Chalenge on August 25, 2012, 05:55:17 PM
Then you have to survive the encounter. I have done it and I know how hard it is but at the same time it is possible. What fun would success without the possibility of failure be?   :salute
Title: Re: Perks if you kill a ship but die!!
Post by: Poppy on August 25, 2012, 06:51:14 PM
I have launched torps and then been killed but they always showed the ship sunk when they hit their mark during that minute in the tower waiting to see if I was on target or not, maybe the perks are set too high for getting them with everything else in game but I sure would like a better way of getting them when dealing with any naval part of the game...
Title: Re: Perks if you kill a ship but die!!
Post by: Krusty on August 25, 2012, 10:14:17 PM
You can release torps outside ack range, and they will travel into the target. You can do this either from a parallel path (head on, mostly, as tail-on won't catch the ship), or from a side angle.

There are tutorials with pictures and aiming tips, tricks, and clues. You do it right and you break off as the first rounds even begin firing at you. It lets you get away with a very good chance of survival. Most people don't bother doing it right, though.
Title: Re: Perks if you kill a ship but die!!
Post by: bangsbox on August 26, 2012, 10:20:10 AM
I have and do use the tactic  on help page (and head on attack isn't there but I do use it). U can drop after 40mm open up on u for US torps. But ship will have plenty of turn
time/ fighters and 5in don't care if your torp hit yet.  Even using these tactics you almost always die without seeing the boom or getting perks.   
Title: Re: Perks if you kill a ship but die!!
Post by: W7LPNRICK on August 28, 2012, 12:03:43 PM
Well, I got vulched off the runway end, but just skidded & stopped. Another tard was coming in when I ditched & denied him the kill...sorry, but that was justice to runway vulchers, IMO :neener:
Title: Re: Perks if you kill a ship but die!!
Post by: kvuo75 on August 28, 2012, 03:26:07 PM
Well, I got vulched off the runway end, but just skidded & stopped. Another tard was coming in when I ditched & denied him the kill...sorry, but that was justice to runway vulchers, IMO :neener:

absolutely.  :aok
Title: Re: Perks if you kill a ship but die!!
Post by: Nathan60 on August 28, 2012, 03:42:27 PM
Its not about the score oits about the fight gus,  so you didnt get your scror when you took a doods tauil feathers off,m big deal.
Title: Re: Perks if you kill a ship but die!!
Post by: MK-84 on August 28, 2012, 10:16:06 PM
I have and do use the tactic  on help page (and head on attack isn't there but I do use it). U can drop after 40mm open up on u for US torps. But ship will have plenty of turn
time/ fighters and 5in don't care if your torp hit yet.  Even using these tactics you almost always die without seeing the boom or getting perks.   

     I think I understand what you are getting at.  You want to be rewarded for a heroic attack that was successful, but caused your untimely death.  Unfortunately AH doesn't offer the medal of honor, and as cartoon pilots...DYING DOESN'T HURT!
     The end result if added would encourage more* suicidal attacks from dive bombing aircraft that have no hope of ever landing their sortie.  Rewarding this would be disruptive to gameplay.  It would encourage players by rewarding them to fly stupidly.
     
     I think the concept you are describing actually makes sense...but not at all from a gameplay perspective. 
Title: Re: Perks if you kill a ship but die!!
Post by: bangsbox on August 29, 2012, 01:09:00 AM
     I think I understand what you are getting at.  You want to be rewarded for a heroic attack that was successful, but caused your untimely death.  Unfortunately AH doesn't offer the medal of honor, and as cartoon pilots...DYING DOESN'T HURT!
     The end result if added would encourage more* suicidal attacks from dive bombing aircraft that have no hope of ever landing their sortie.  Rewarding this would be disruptive to gameplay.  It would encourage players by rewarding them to fly stupidly.
     
     I think the concept you are describing actually makes sense...but not at all from a gameplay perspective. 


Suicidal dive bombers 9x out of 10 get their perk points... All they have to do to insure this is get engines blown off or shut it off and add a little rudder so bombs hit first. A torpedo mission doesn't have even close to same hit % and not even close to the same survivial %. it's very very hard to torpedo a cv and hit it and even harder to live  to see it hit. Landing was forgotten when you took off in a torpedo plane In the first place. So no u don't get it...I bet u never even experienced a successful torpedo run. I can say that be cause u dare compare it to a dive bomb...shame, try it a few time and when u die evey single time and don't even hit anything, post here again and tell people about it. I'm not asking for something for nothing; a torpedo hit takes skill a dive bomb not really. There is a reason you rarely see torpedo planes. There is a reason jabo's and b26s are the planes that attack and sink cv's whole sale (because it's easy mode). I'll I want to see is want this game does anyway, gives underdogs more perks. I fly eny 30 rides in LW just for that reason.