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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: MarineUS on August 28, 2012, 07:14:05 PM
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What do you think about this three year old not being able to go to school because when he writes his name it looks too much like a gun?
Deaf 3-year-old Hunter Spanjer of Nebraska signs his first name with a gesture resembling a gun, and his parent say his school wants him to stop. School officials say they haven't asked any deaf students to change how they sign their names.
The preschooler's father, Brian Spanjer, took to Facebook Sunday to garner support to allow his son to continue using the S.E.E. (Signing Exact English) symbol at the Early Learning Center he began attending last week. The Facebook page, "Let this Deaf Child Keep His Name Sign," had more than 2,200 likes by Tuesday evening.
Hunter has used the name sign since he was 6 months old, when the school district started working with him, Janet Logue, Hunter's grandmother, told NBC News.
The name combines the symbol for the letter h for hunt, the thumb down along index and middle fingers extended together and waved, with the letter r, crossing the two fingers, Logue explained.
“Hunter is kinda confused” at school now, where teachers are spelling his name out to him, Logue said.
Spanjer posted a letter from the American Civil Liberties Union, which Hunter’s grandmother, Janet Logue, described in a comment as the civil rights organization citing legal cases and telling the Grand Island Public Schools it’s wrong and "politely asking them to rethink their position."
“My son broke down in tears, overwhelmed by the support he’s getting,” Logue said.
He has vowed to fight until his son gets to use his name sign.
Hunter’s parents chose his name when he was first born and before they knew he was deaf, Logue said.
It was just a name they like, she said.
The policy of Grand Island schools, about 145 miles west of Omaha, forbids students "to knowingly and voluntarily possess, handle, transmit or use any instrument in school, on school grounds or at school functions that is a firearm, weapon, or looks like a weapon…"
School district spokesman Jack Sheard told the New York Daily News that the dispute is a misunderstanding. Administrators asked Hunter to spell his name out letter-by-letter instead of using the name sign.
"We want to do what is best for every student in our district, and we care more about that than everything else," Sheard told the Daily News. "We are working with the parents to find the best solution we can."
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/28/13531342-deaf-childs-sign-language-name-looks-too-much-like-a-gun-school-says?lite
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I think it's ridiculous. And just more proof that our school system is VERY...lib...lef...uh, slanted.
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This country is getting just plain stupid.
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Hmmmm! LOL, more signs of Nannyism out of Control..
SAVE ME!
From what??
Eventually they will save you from livINg at all!
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This country is getting just plain stupid.
+1 wonde rif the queen will take us back.
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smells to me like a story carefully fabricated to appeal to ... well ... ^ these 2.
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smells to me like a story carefully fabricated to appeal to ... well ... ^ these 2.
I see no fact to back up this claim either. Just upping your post count then RT?
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+1 wonde rif the queen will take us back.
The Queen would love to have you.
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^ :rofl
I see no fact to back up this claim either. Just upping your post count then RT?
Indeed, I have no evidence either way.
which is why I prefaced with "smells to me like ...", rather than "It is a fact that ..."
hows that reading comprehension coming along? :)
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^ :rofl
Indeed, I have no evidence either way.
which is why I prefaced with "smells to me like ...", rather than "It is a fact that ..."
hows that reading comprehension coming along? :)
So your saying our sense of smell is a little wonky?
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I understand the principles behind schools trying to not have guns or to promote them, but this one is over the top.
Have to respond to a couple of comments, I may be mistaken, but, I believe that the massacres at schools have mostly been done with LEGAL weapons.
I truly don't believe this country needs to go back to the "Wild Wild west".....
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I understand the principles behind schools trying to not have guns or to promote them, but this one is over the top.
Have to respond to a couple of comments, I may be mistaken, but, I believe that the massacres at schools have mostly been done with LEGAL weapons.
I truly don't believe this country needs to go back to the "Wild Wild west".....
A weapon is a tool. It is the person committing the act with the tool that is the problem. The act you mentioned is by definition illegal. It would seem the law making it illegal wasn't much of a deterrent to the commission of that act.
You really should define exactly what you mean by "wild wild west" since it really has no set meaning and can only be deduced by connotation. I somehow doubt your connotation has a significant relationship with reality either much like the TV show and movie of the same name.
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It has a distinct connotation, The Wild Wild West, where everyone wore guns and used them freely. Guns are tools that KILL, and make it easy to do so. They are more likely to be used in crimes of passion, and being that one can use them to kill from a distance, by reason, makes them weapons that are less "personal" than say, a knife. If you're using a knife, it's more likely that you're looking into your victims eyes, and it's easier to disassociate yourself from the crime. It's just plain easier to kill without forethought with a gun. I have sincere doubt that what we have in this country today was the idea that our forefathers envisioned when the authored the Bill of Rights. Also, I seriously doubt the "need" to have assault weapons, automatic weapons, pistols with huge clips, etc, unless the owners are either planning a revolt against the government or have plans to commit another mass murder. If you're planning either, good luck, I'll laugh at your funeral.
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I have sincere doubt that what we have in this country today was the idea that our forefathers envisioned when the authored the Bill of Rights. Also, I seriously doubt the "need" to have assault weapons, automatic weapons, pistols with huge clips, etc, unless the owners are either planning a revolt against the government or have plans to commit another mass murder. If you're planning either, good luck, I'll laugh at your funeral.
You would see your statement is wrong if you knew the Founders.
What is the Authority for Rebellion?
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson
"give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety." But as Benjamin Franklin concluded, they "deserve neither liberty nor safety."
For such feeble souls, Samuel Adams advised, "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, go from us in peace. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!"
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Copperhead, Slate covered just a little bit what the founding fathers were like. Few were a nebbish, unwilling to be around or afraid of a tool.
As to the rest of your rant. I am not concerned with your doubts, they are your problem not mine. I will say that in this country you are welcome, encouraged in fact, by gun owners to not have a firearm if you are uncomfortable with them. That is entirely your right. That right, you should realize, stops at my nose. I am perfectly willing to allow you to not have or use a firearm. I do object, in the strongest terms, to your position to dictate to me what I should have to exercise MY rights.
In my opinion rights, which are not granted by the constitution or bill of rights but only acknowledged by them, should have the loosest possible determination so that they are not infringed upon regular citizens absent any wrong doing on their part.
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Common sense will not be tolerated.
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Now that you mention it , teachers have been givINg my son Dragon Von Switchblade a hard time about how he signs HIS name! :furious
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I like your style!
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Elton John makes you proud to be British :old:
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Elton John makes you proud to be British :old:
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Now that you mention it , teachers have been givINg my son Dragon Von Switchblade a hard time about how he signs HIS name! :furious
Really my Bnephew Henryrepeartingrifle Rack Swastika never has any problems
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Elton John makes you proud to be British :old:
Is that not Sir Elton John. I'm requesting the Crown begin an Inquisition on the matter of your loyalty. :old:
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Elton John makes you proud to be British :old:
Rather low standard you have there considering those Brits who vastly eclipse Elton John.....
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Rather low standard you have there considering those Brits who vastly eclipse Elton John.....
let's see, they have elton john and we had michael jackson. I would rather pick elton john.
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