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Title: Indestructable HQ
Post by: Yarbles on September 04, 2012, 06:43:47 PM
Me and a squaddie put 6 full Lanc loads on the hq within a few seconds of eachoter all nicely calibrated and it didn't go down does anyone know how to kill the HQ?
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: Bruv119 on September 04, 2012, 06:52:30 PM
you miss?    :bolt:
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: RedBull1 on September 04, 2012, 06:53:01 PM
Too low, too many misses? Was it in LWMA? What bomb loads? And/or films?  :D
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: Butcher on September 04, 2012, 06:53:37 PM
Someone decided to test the bishop accuracy in bombing targets  :bolt:
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: icepac on September 04, 2012, 07:20:09 PM
If you had any messages that said object destoryed or gun destroyed, then some bombs missed.

I never bomb hq from any higher than 2800 feet above it.
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: coombz on September 04, 2012, 07:36:36 PM
Yarbles has bad eyesight from playing with his joystick too much  :joystick:
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: 1sum41 on September 04, 2012, 07:50:22 PM
Yarbles has bad eyesight from playing with his joystick too much  :joystick:
:rofl
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: ALFAMEGA51 on September 04, 2012, 07:52:59 PM
Yarbles has bad eyesight from playing with his joystick too much  :joystick:
aaahaha!!!  :rofl
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: kvuo75 on September 05, 2012, 12:03:54 AM
yarbs made #1 bomber one tour back when we were squaddies, so I think he knows how use a lanc.  :aok
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: RTHolmes on September 05, 2012, 12:36:37 AM
IIRC it has to be direct hits to damage HQ - near misses wont do splash damage.
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: pervert on September 05, 2012, 03:18:43 AM
yarbs made #1 bomber one tour back when we were squaddies, so I think he knows how use a lanc.  :aok

How many oh oh spaghetti os moments does it take  :D

(http://i.imgur.com/Kvn5I.png)
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: Yarbles on September 05, 2012, 04:56:30 AM
yarbs made #1 bomber one tour back when we were squaddies, so I think he knows how use a lanc.  :aok

Thanks old Friend

Yes in precision (+) we were loyal buddies in "The Few" they just take the mick out of poor old Yarbles  :cry

Be warned if you are not young and an Ace "The Few" is a bear pit  :uhoh
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: Yarbles on September 05, 2012, 05:00:58 AM
IIRC it has to be direct hits to damage HQ - near misses wont do splash damage.

I thought I was on the button at 3k with salvo 14 and Flossie followed me with the same.

Can anyone tell me the best technique.
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: RTHolmes on September 05, 2012, 05:08:18 AM
you'd have to be going very slowly indeed to get all 14 direct hits in one pass ...


edit: I think icepac is the guy to ask
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: Lusche on September 05, 2012, 05:13:45 AM
either
- very slow or
- pull straight up over HQ (in case of NOE) or
- make two passes


because HQ is an "armored" target and bombs have to hit right on top. That's why a formation of B-29s has such a hard time killing HQ despite it's impressive bombload.
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: Noir on September 05, 2012, 05:17:55 AM
salvo 14 against a HQ at say 280mph, 10 or so of the bombs will hit at maximum. You need to slow down, or make 2 passes.
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: Yarbles on September 05, 2012, 05:35:01 AM
salvo 14 against a HQ at say 280mph, 10 or so of the bombs will hit at maximum. You need to slow down, or make 2 passes.

Thankyou  :banana:

A refreshing change to get a usefull answer from your own squad  :aok
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: Yarbles on September 05, 2012, 05:52:35 AM
Too low, too many misses? Was it in LWMA? What bomb loads? And/or films?  :D


I think it was too fast as Nuke said thank though m8  :salute
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: Yarbles on September 05, 2012, 05:53:15 AM
If you had any messages that said object destoryed or gun destroyed, then some bombs missed.

I never bomb hq from any higher than 2800 feet above it.

I was at 3k and yes had allot of gun kills  :salute

IIRC it has to be direct hits to damage HQ - near misses wont do splash damage.

Cheers M8

Right I will try bombing at close to stall speed ios that about 150mph or less in a loaded Lanc ?
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: RTHolmes on September 05, 2012, 06:00:58 AM
would the 6x 2,000lb (+ 3x 500lb) be better for a one-pass run?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: Noir on September 05, 2012, 06:03:11 AM
would the 6x 2,000lb (+ 3x 500lb) be better for a one-pass run?  :headscratch:

yes for sure, but a 2K bomb is less efficient than 2*1K bombs
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: Yarbles on September 05, 2012, 06:15:44 AM
mmmmmmmmmm :headscratch:

Salvo 9 a low speed drop as the sight touches the edge.

I don't suppose there is a way to test this off line?
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: Lusche on September 05, 2012, 06:33:46 AM
I don't suppose there is a way to test this off line?

Sure there is. Offline or in custom arena, just uncheck "protect objects" in arena settings, so that you can up from a friendly base nearby and aren't harrased by AA fire.
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: Lusche on September 05, 2012, 06:47:16 AM
yes for sure, but a 2K bomb is less efficient than 2*1K bombs

Yup.
To be precise, 6x2000lbs + 3x*500lbs = 6x(1,718)+3x(562) = 11,994lbs of damage. For a formation that adds up to just under 36K.
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: Yarbles on September 05, 2012, 06:53:56 AM
Yup.
To be precise, 6x2000lbs + 3x*500lbs = 6x(1,718)+3x(562) = 11,994lbs of damage. For a formation that adds up to just under 36K.

So does that mean you have to go with the 14 x 1000's
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: Lusche on September 05, 2012, 07:00:46 AM
yes
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: icepac on September 05, 2012, 07:03:52 AM
I fly over at no more than 220mph with speed and course stabilized and drop about 30 feet before the base of the building.

My connection is a cell phone so it's possible my technique is taking account of my 300ms latency.

I use salvo 13 when there is a nearby vehicle spawn so I can kill the lemmings in thier m3s.
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: Lusche on September 05, 2012, 07:11:32 AM
My connection is a cell phone so it's possible my technique is taking account of my 300ms latency.


Your latency doesn't matter, as you are not trying to hit objects on the server, but on your on computer. 'What you see is what you get' in this case.
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: Yarbles on September 05, 2012, 07:56:29 AM
I did the full load at salvo 14 at a well calibrated 160MPH for minimum dispersal no joy  :(

I think i was bang on as I released when the cros hair touched the base of the building.

What do you reckon Lusche?
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: SmokinLoon on September 05, 2012, 08:24:07 AM
It is far easier to get the HQ down in 1 pass using the 2000 lb bombs.  Obviously, more than 1 flight of bombers is needed if we're speaking of B24's or Lancasters.  I have not tried using the 4000 lb bombs from the B29's yet, but I can assume the same logic applies. 

Unless the bombers are using historically accurate bombing speeds (220-240 TAS), then it would be very difficult to drop all 14 1000 lb bombs on top of the HQ, even then I think it would be easier to use multiple set of bombers. 
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: tunnelrat on September 05, 2012, 08:27:58 AM
Yarbles, kick off your film when you open BBDs.  Upload, post link hera.

 :salute
Title: Re: Indestructable HQ
Post by: Lusche on September 05, 2012, 08:45:16 AM
I have not tried using the 4000 lb bombs from the B29's yet, but I can assume the same logic applies.  


B-29 drones are so far apart that you can't hit HQ with all three planes of a formation at once.

At least, I wasn't able to do so ;)