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General Forums => Films and Screenshots => Topic started by: Nath[BDP] on September 15, 2012, 08:59:12 PM
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My first film dedicated to the latest avant-garde flight combat maneuver of Aces High.
It goes by other monikers as the "floppy fish", "the flop", but I call it "cobra style" as it is so similar to the Sukhoi jet maneuver. But it reminds me of some crazy kung fu moves too, so the music was only natural.
The move is really a lot of fun, easy to do, and very effective defensively. I will be posting a tutorial soon.
Enjoy!
http://youtu.be/06f0GF0VAwA
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:rofl how did you do that
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Very impressive, Nath. Just curious as to how effective it has been for you in the defensive? Looks like it can force overshoots quite easily and enable you to turn on a dime. However, you miss that snapshot it seems like you'll have no E left for maneuver..
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So again, with the whole topic about the FM in the aircraft and vehicle section...was this even possible in RL or is it a flaw in the FM?
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My first film dedicated to the latest avant-garde flight combat maneuver of Aces High.
It goes by other monikers as the "floppy fish", "the flop", but I call it "cobra style" as it is so similar to the Sukhoi jet maneuver. But it reminds me of some crazy kung fu moves too, so the music was only natural.
The move is really a lot of fun, easy to do, and very effective defensively. I will be posting a tutorial soon.
Enjoy!
http://youtu.be/06f0GF0VAwA
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:rock :rock :rock
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So again, with the whole topic about the FM in the aircraft and vehicle section...was this even possible in RL or is it a flaw in the FM?
I'm sure you've seen lots of WW2 dog fighting clips from TV documentaries, internet and other sources....how many times in those films have you seen the types of moves Nath performed in the film, in those dog fights? ;)
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I'm sure you've seen lots of WW2 dog fighting clips from TV documentaries, internet and other sources....how many times in those films have you seen the types of moves Nath performed in the film, in those dog fights? ;)
Nath's camera is fixed to the aeroplane. I think if you could see it from a fixed position relative to the ground and could see his forward motion, lift, etc... it would probably make more sense. The tutorial will help.
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So again, with the whole topic about the FM in the aircraft and vehicle section...was this even possible in RL or is it a flaw in the FM?
it's possible in real life, just not advisable when your life is actually on the line. you notice most of the time he's not fully in control, uncontrolled spins, vulnerable to attack. the biplanes are better suited to stunts like that.
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it's possible in real life, just not advisable when your life is actually on the line. you notice most of the time he's not fully in control, uncontrolled spins, vulnerable to attack. the biplanes are better suited to stunts like that.
I've practiced this offline, and it's actually pretty easy to regain full control in a number of airplanes (109K, P-47M come to mind). Those planes basically autocorrect themselves unless you hamfist it. Surprisingly, I found the Spit XVI to be a bear to handle with this move, because it really wanted to pull into a flat spin.
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Very impressive, Nath. Just curious as to how effective it has been for you in the defensive? Looks like it can force overshoots quite easily and enable you to turn on a dime. However, you miss that snapshof energy very quicklyot it seems like you'll have no E left for maneuver..
DMF can attest to its effectiveness as well, but since it changes nose angle and bleeds a tremendous amount of energy quickly it is very good. You don't really bleed that much E because once the plane reenters normal flight speed shoots back up to 100+ instantly. There are variations on a theme too, you can just pivot the nose over in a descending scissors to get snapshots.
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peple have been doing it for years already
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it's possible in real life, just not advisable when your life is actually on the line. you notice most of the time he's not fully in control, uncontrolled spins, vulnerable to attack. the biplanes are better suited to stunts like that.
It is rare to enter a catastrophic spin with this move once you get a feel for its limits. As DMF said some planes just snap out of it without much worry, P47, F4U, 109, P39.
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:huh :huh :huh :airplane: :airplane: :airplane: :huh :huh :huh :bhead :bhead :bhead
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peple have been doing it for years already
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I think that's pretty obvious from some of the films I've seen, though it wasn't commonly used when I was still flying. To be honest, the real question is why everyone isn't doing it.
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I think that's pretty obvious from some of the films I've seen, though it wasn't commonly used when I was still flying. To be honest, the real question is why everyone isn't doing it.
Integrity?
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Stalls can either be your best friend or your worst nightmare! :old:
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I will be posting a tutorial soon.
I don't think you should post a tutorial Nath.
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I think that's pretty obvious from some of the films I've seen, though it wasn't commonly used when I was still flying. To be honest, the real question is why everyone isn't doing it.
:rofl :rofl That was funny.
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peple have been doing it for years already
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+1 and sadly the reason they don't for very long is because viewed from the cons perspective you present a target not even I could miss! :rofl
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I think that's pretty obvious from some of the films I've seen, though it wasn't commonly used when I was still flying. To be honest, the real question is why everyone isn't doing it.
Maybe because the 'fight' is dead in the MA. You tailside around jus for the sake of doing will kill all energy you had...only reason to use it is as a last move effort to throw a enemies shot off.
It's funny when flying around and seeing people "tailslide" because I just watch them helplessly flutter about trying to regain control while I Am lining up for a easy kill.
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Maybe because the 'fight' is dead in the MA.
:cry What happened, I've only been gone 7 weeks.
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this is your goal Nath :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdCm5z2RpI8
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hehe funny little movie :aok
But... have you seen Lepape, Krupinsky and a couple others flying? Maybe it isnt the most effective way, but some people have impressive skills for sure.
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I was able to do this move offline... in a B-29.
Just saying.
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this is your goal Nath :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdCm5z2RpI8
hahahaha. I'm going to splice that clip into my film
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Kabooki taught me this a long time ago, pull back enter right rudder and left aileron, or is it vice versa, left rudder and right aileron. Dont remember well, I dont do this move often, need tons of alt from my experience, and as stated above you lose most of your E, but it is fun to do. :D
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Dont remember well, I dont do this move often, need tons of alt from my experience, and as stated above you lose most of your E, but it is fun to do. :D
You don't need a ton of alt. I did this in a B-29 at 2k and pulled out with ample altitude to spare. With a little practice offline in a 109K, I was able to perform the move while barely losing any altitude at all.
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You don't need a ton of alt. I did this in a B-29 at 2k and pulled out with ample altitude to spare. With a little practice offline in a 109K, I was able to perform the move while barely losing any altitude at all.
Offline, huh? :noid
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looking from a fixed spot you can see it better. It works sometimes I only use is as a last ditch move... sometimes it works
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwTuFLHldWg&feature=g-upl