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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Rob52240 on September 17, 2012, 12:34:56 PM
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I'd like the option for bomber missions to allow the pilots to stay in their guns and out of the bombsight.
I'm thinking a target base could be selected in the mission planner and the planes would salvo all bombs once over the target field or town. This would allow the pilots to stay in formation and stay in their guns. It would also be more realistic than the current precision that's offered with the Aces High bombsights.
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I'd be fine with that. Since you want them to release when the bomers are OVER the target, they'd have to be going 0mph for their bomb release to be on-target.
I don't see why you would want such an idiotic thing, but whatever floats your boat.
Although in all seriousness, HELL no. Bombing is already far too easy in Aces High, release speeds are WAY above what they were in real life, and you already have guns slaved to fire simultaneously.
Now you want the bomber to fly itself, and drop its bombs automaticlly while you man the guns? toejam, might as well ask for a guided missle.
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well. there would now be an excuse for 30+ lanc raids gotta carpet bomb to drop anything +1 :aok
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Right. No more smartbombs + nobody has to be defenseless in the F6 position.
we could also salvo all bombs once the designated lead plane with bombardier drops. All other planes drop the same distance away from directly over the field.
Aces high sorely lacks real area bombing.
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Lancasters and other British bombers did not salvo on the leader even when operating in daylight. Each bomber was responsible for its own aiming.
This would be even more true of things like Mosquitoes and Ar234s.
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I'd like the option for bomber missions to allow the pilots to stay in their guns and out of the bombsight.
I'm thinking a target base could be selected in the mission planner and the planes would salvo all bombs once over the target field or town. This would allow the pilots to stay in formation and stay in their guns. It would also be more realistic than the current precision that's offered with the Aces High bombsights.
what is wrong? having problems with your 20 bomber missions accurately avoiding the easy to kill hangars and damaging the dangerous field ack gun next to it?
semp
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Uh sure... Can I have a GPS navigated auto pilot too? I don't wanna fly the plane myself either when I'm bombing towns...
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what is wrong? having problems with your 20 bomber missions accurately avoiding the easy to kill hangars and damaging the dangerous field ack gun next to it?
semp
Im pretty sure he is wishing to have the bombs automatically drop once the bomber is over the field. As in not drop directly onto the hangers or any other specific target on the field; but to just drop all ords onto the field and only be able to control the general area of the drop. Instead of having our deadly accurate bombing sights.
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-1 Fighters wait to knock bombers out of the air precisely when they are busy in the bomb sight.
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Im pretty sure he is wishing to have the bombs automatically drop once the bomber is over the field. As in not drop directly onto the hangers or any other specific target on the field; but to just drop all ords onto the field and only be able to control the general area of the drop. Instead of having our deadly accurate bombing sights.
you do realize that's how they do it right now. they just drop bombs all over the field hoping to hit something.
semp
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you do realize that's how they do it right now. they just drop bombs all over the field hoping to hit something.
semp
maybe the divel dogs and Vtards do that but the more percise 91st and 97th will close 3 fields in one run with our 17s cause we use percision rather than just carpet bombing
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maybe the divel dogs and Vtards do that but the more percise 91st and 97th will close 3 fields in one run with our 17s cause we use percision rather than just carpet bombing
Id be willing to bet that we, the Vtards that you speak of, can be just as precise with the bomb sight as your squad can. The bomb sight is far to easy to use. If anything, it should go back to the old way. Like how it is in the special events.
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I'm all for it, except no more bomber formations, one guy = one aircraft.
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maybe the divel dogs and Vtards do that but the more percise 91st and 97th will close 3 fields in one run with our 17s cause we use percision rather than just carpet bombing
sure keep telling yourself that too :).
semp
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sure keep telling yourself that too :).
semp
maybe the divel dogs and Vtards do that but the more percise 91st and 97th will close 3 fields in one run with our 17s cause we use percision rather than just carpet bombing
I'm an ex-football star and I can bench press a car....
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Id be willing to bet that we, the Vtards that you speak of, can be just as precise with the bomb sight as your squad can. The bomb sight is far to easy to use. If anything, it should go back to the old way. Like how it is in the special events.
Remember to think of side effects. While I did enjoy the more complex sight and was able to obtain the same results with it that I get with the current system, for most people it just caused them to abandon trying to use the site at all and rely on dive bombing with the heavies.
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I'm an ex-football star and I can bench press a car....
and yet it takes very little strength to push a button.
semp
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Id be willing to bet that we, the Vtards that you speak of, can be just as precise with the bomb sight as your squad can. The bomb sight is far to easy to use. If anything, it should go back to the old way. Like how it is in the special events.
I was in no way insulting the vtards it just seems the few bomb runs I have done with you guys have all been in lancs on the deck and just climbing to 1k and dropping your bombs as you get over the target and I said MAYBE for the simple reason that I do know you guys occasionally climb and bomb then I respect the Vtards as I am bish and with out you guys there would be no captures on our bish side
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I was in no way insulting the vtards it just seems the few bomb runs I have done with you guys have all been in lancs on the deck and just climbing to 1k and dropping your bombs as you get over the target and I said MAYBE for the simple reason that I do know you guys occasionally climb and bomb then I respect the Vtards as I am bish and with out you guys there would be no captures on our bish side
This would be chuwies missions. Not to be confused with ours.
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I was in no way insulting the vtards it just seems the few bomb runs I have done with you guys have all been in lancs on the deck and just climbing to 1k and dropping your bombs as you get over the target and I said MAYBE for the simple reason that I do know you guys occasionally climb and bomb then I respect the Vtards as I am bish and with out you guys there would be no captures on our bish side
They insult themselves with their way of flying and tactics. no one even needs to say a word about it. everytime a Vtard presses the runway spawn button its an insult
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They insult themselves with their way of flying and tactics. no one even needs to say a word about it. everytime a Vtard presses the runway spawn button its an insult
+1000000000000000000
couldn't have said it better :aok
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+1000000000000000000
couldn't have said it better :aok
Ha!
Even though 2 nights ago Jarbo and I were in heavy P-47's, we took out your vh, ords and radar before killing your A-hog and your squaddie's spitfire.
Stop being so lame.
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Ha!
Even though 2 nights ago Jarbo and I were in heavy P-47's, we took out your vh, ords and radar before killing your A-hog and your squaddie's spitfire.
Stop being so lame.
What did the other 20 vtards do?
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What did the other 20 vtards do?
It was just the 2 of us.
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-1 Fighters wait to knock bombers out of the air precisely when they are busy in the bomb sight.
-1 same reason. Now they have to choose, shoot at me, or drop on the target and lose a plane. Bombers also have the option of having a gunner fly with them so if you really want to make sure you are in the bombsight when it is critically important, you all could have a gunner with you from your squad. That might mean half as many buffs of course if you all had gunners but I'm pretty sure most of the time that is still more than enough.
I do not want to discourage buff pilots. I, along with fighter pilots like Chalenge, invest the time and practice our techniques to intercept and kill them. I think we have a pretty good balance already with the way it is setup. After all, buff pilots now have 3 chances to make it to and drop on their targets because of the 2 AI wingman. It is not often I can get more than 1 when the "in the bombsight" timing is in my favor.
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Ha!
Even though 2 nights ago Jarbo and I were in heavy P-47's, we took out your vh, ords and radar before killing your A-hog and your squaddie's spitfire.
Stop being so lame.
hey dont forget the time I shot down 8 of your comrades as you were heavy and refused to move out of the way. it was literally 1 after the other. I was actually amazed that i shot so many as everybody knows I cant shoot a plane that goes straight. now that I think about it, you guys probably knew it was me :noid.
you guys have 1 or 2 guys that can bomb. the rest just count on numbers, so many times there's been 2 or 3 of us attacking you and the only reason you took the base was that we ran out of ammo. several times I have been so disgusted with the lack of fighting from your part when you narrowly focus on just killing the hangars that I just augured and went to play wot.
there was a time when we used to have 5 or 6 guys just waiting for you noe missions. we busted so many of them that the word came that you guys thought we had spies. but the truth was the we killed the ords so we knew exactly which base you were coming from. then we got bored with just easy kills so we went to fight the rooks. at least the will drop the bombs and try to engage when attacked. most bishop's idea of evading is keep going straight.
semp
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Ha!
Even though 2 nights ago Jarbo and I were in heavy P-47's, we took out your vh, ords and radar before killing your A-hog and your squaddie's spitfire.
Stop being so lame.
lol yup we had just upped and you came in from like 15k. yup you are awesome
i wonder if you would be willing to da
lets see who is lame
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I'm an ex-football star and I can bench press a car....
Ok now Rob, those Hot Wheels in your old toybox do not count...neither do Power Wheels or cars made of foam... :neener:
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Seems people want to take every task away from the game. It's easy enough to do now.
If you have trouble with calibrating, keep practicing, keep your E-6 open while in bombsight to match current
airspeed to cal airspeed. Most likely your plane has sped up since calibration. Throttle to match
E-6 to calibrated- Voila tgt hit.
Altitude doesn't seem to make too much difference on 2nd pass (Drop alt.)
Just match E-6 (actual airspeed) to calibrated.
I want to continue to drop bombs myself, not automatic.
Killing fighters on my 6, or getting killed is the fun part.
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:cheers: Oz
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From what I've read about the Norden, once the bombardier opened the bomb bay doors, set the Norden sight on the target and then corrected for drift, etc, the autopilot flew the plane and the Norden automatically dropped the bombs. 'Course they were not flying at full throttle either, and R/L accuracy was less I think than what a good bomber jock in AH can achieve.
Anyway, this thread and others have given me an interesting thought. How 'bout a dot command [maybe .dropwith....] for dropping your bombs when someone else's plane does. For example, you type in .dropwith Rob52240 and your bombs drop when Rob's do. You still have to open bomb bay doors, and if you are not near the target your bombs will drop and be wasted. But if you have a tight formation...might be interesting... :aok
best.
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what do you mean the autopilot automaticly flew the plane?
Didn't the bombadier relay corrections to the pilot to keep the aircraft right on course untill they were over the target (at which point they dropped?)
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what do you mean the autopilot automaticly flew the plane?
Didn't the bombadier relay corrections to the pilot to keep the aircraft right on course untill they were over the target (at which point they dropped?)
nope once about 5miles out the pilot would hand the controls over to the bombadier and the bombadier would then make slight corrections with the auto pilot on with the few controls that he had such as the ailerons and elevators and throttle
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So, it wasn't autopilot. Bombadier had control of the aircraft.
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Here, check it yourself.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/63753802/USAAF-Bombardier-School-Students-Manual-Norden-Bomb-Sight-C-1-Autopilot
Bombardiers learned to operate the autopilot and bomb control computers. If the bombardier's initial input adjustments to the Norden was correct at the beginning of the bomb run, the bomb control computer flew the plane and dropped the bombs on its own. The bombardier might make minute corrections if necessary, but if not, he was not "flying" the plane, the computer was. At least that's what I get out of the manual.
Best.
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might as well ask for a guided missle.
I'd like a guided missile. :pray
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I was in no way insulting the vtards it just seems the few bomb runs I have done with you guys have all been in lancs on the deck and just climbing to 1k and dropping your bombs as you get over the target and I said MAYBE for the simple reason that I do know you guys occasionally climb and bomb then I respect the Vtards as I am bish and with out you guys there would be no captures on our bish side
Eh us FB$ can outbomb both of ya :D :aok Let the rant begin :ahand
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-1. The bombers have dfensive capability built in when in they are in the scope. They have mannable guns, if you take the time to get a decent gunner on board. Not unusual at all to hear a squaddie say "I need a gunner", and several of us will jump at the opportunity to help them out.
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Eh us FB$ can outbomb both of ya :D :aok Let the rant begin :ahand
HA!