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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: ebfd11 on September 19, 2012, 08:05:37 PM
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Well doing a mod to my computer I think I may have fried my cpu
Problem is when ever o turn it on it shuts before it gets to the boot screen. So what I have to do is get a née processor.
What I was wondering is, going from an i5 2500k to the i5 3570k if there is gonna be Alan improvement in the speed.
Also is there anyone using this cpu right now.
LawnDart
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I have a 3570k...love it, just got it a couple months ago, haven't OC'ed it yet as I haven't gotten an aftermarket cooler (all mine are LGA775). I upgraded from a Q9550 though, so not too sure on performance improvement.
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I Use a 3570. I've read the 3570 run hotter in a overclock then the 2500 k. The 3570 is suppose to be a tick + to the 2500k, but then again just what I have read.
Better google and do some research.
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might as well get the 8 core since that's the one you wanted last time. it's only 100 bucks more. you sure it's your cpu that got fried and not something else?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501
semp
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Well doing a mod to my computer I think I may have fried my cpu
Problem is when ever o turn it on it shuts before it gets to the boot screen. So what I have to do is get a née processor.
Sounds like you might not have the CPU fan plugged in.
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Sounds like you might not have the CPU fan plugged in.
^this: Check that the plug is is in the right slot and all the wires seated properly in the connector. If the speed indicator can't get a reading the computer won't start. So also check with another fan.
In case you really need to get a new processor, check the PassMark results from http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html). A quick calculation tells that the 3570k performs roughly 15% better than the 2500k. Only very few people can tell the difference below 20% in real life. When I was much younger, some expert told me as a rule of thumb for upgrading is to double the performance level for a significant effect. In your case it's not a question of upgrading, so get the best you want to pay for. A quick glimpse in the price section of the benchmark list mentioned above shows many good performers below $300.
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Sounds like you might not have the CPU fan plugged in.
Or CPU heatsink/fan seated badly, wrong way around or without thermal paste..
Or "What heatsink? Do I need that?" :D
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Quantify what a 'passmark' is in relation to actual performance. The granularity is such that a .01 point difference could translate into one million ops per second difference.
We do not know what the weighting of the tests are. We do not know how the mullti-threading tests were executed (i.e. the combination).
I give little credence to any synthetic benchmark which does not elaborate how the scoring is done and exactly what is done in each test. The site gives very vague explanations to what it is doing and how the 'passmark' is actually calculated.
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Sounds like you might not have the CPU fan plugged in.
I have a water cooled system and I dont have a fan for the cpu and trying to fill the system after doing a refurb to the rig I forgot to prime the system before filling it. The CPU got extremly hot and after I got the water flowing it kept shutting down. I let it set for 24 hours and it still did the same thing. So in my best guesstimation I FRIED like an egg the CPU.
Well after looking at the passmark I decided to go with the i7 2700k from amazon. I got it for 40 dollars cheaper than what newegg was selling it at. I also am going to prime my cooler this time outside of the rig and then I will finish filling the system.
Well this is what it looked like before...
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/ed22877f54711ad05df7c0f9bc2803f0aaf83e113957e4ddbb412df7ed76f9b84g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?3ij0nopc1755qi9)
This is what it looks like now ... minus the screwed up CPU and some other alterations.
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/a7a1ad7d4a0e48fa050919165b87c3a5e83d27b5d890ec1e4ef102b5d926dbf14g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?al11fc095b4q3zx)
So as soon as I can get the new CPU you will see the infamous LawnDart back online.
LawnDart
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might as well get the 8 core since that's the one you wanted last time. it's only 100 bucks more. you sure it's your cpu that got fried and not something else?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501
semp
interesting, didn't know intel was secretly selling octa core desktop cpus, let alone marking them as quad cores...
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I have a water cooled system and I dont have a fan for the cpu and trying to fill the system after doing a refurb to the rig I forgot to prime the system before filling it. The CPU got extremly hot and after I got the water flowing it kept shutting down. I let it set for 24 hours and it still did the same thing. So in my best guesstimation I FRIED like an egg the CPU.
Well after looking at the passmark I decided to go with the i7 2700k from amazon. I got it for 40 dollars cheaper than what newegg was selling it at. I also am going to prime my cooler this time outside of the rig and then I will finish filling the system.
Well this is what it looked like before...
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/ed22877f54711ad05df7c0f9bc2803f0aaf83e113957e4ddbb412df7ed76f9b84g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?3ij0nopc1755qi9)
This is what it looks like now ... minus the screwed up CPU and some other alterations.
(http://www.mediafire.com/conv/a7a1ad7d4a0e48fa050919165b87c3a5e83d27b5d890ec1e4ef102b5d926dbf14g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?al11fc095b4q3zx)
So as soon as I can get the new CPU you will see the infamous LawnDart back online.
LawnDart
Let me guess you disabled CPU guard and throttling from bios? That'll fry a CPU allright.
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Nope I didn't have enough water in system when I fired it up so it wasn't getting water to the heat block.
Duhhhh stupid mistake.
Lawndart
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Nope I didn't have enough water in system when I fired it up so it wasn't getting water to the heat block.
Duhhhh stupid mistake.
Lawndart
Hmm Intel cpu's are supposed to survive running totally without heatsinks if they are allowed to use throttling. Was your system overclocked on first bootup or something?
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Nope I didn't have enough water in system when I fired it up so it wasn't getting water to the heat block.
Duhhhh stupid mistake.
Lawndart
Fancy looks i.e. metal wound tubes were the second duh moment - you can't see even that you lacked water in the tubes or that you had air bubbles running.
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Hmm Intel cpu's are supposed to survive running totally without heatsinks if they are allowed to use throttling. Was your system overclocked on first bootup or something?
I took off my stock heatsink for a Dell with a Core2Duo, i didn't realize it was off until I turned on a game and the case fan turned into a jet engine. Put it back on and no damage was done.
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Intel CPU's not only will throttle back, but they have complete thermal protection. If the CPU gets too hot, it will simply shutdown long before damage is done. They have had that facility since 2006, or so.
I demonstrated this phenomenon once to a friend, quite by accident.
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Quantify what a 'passmark' is in relation to actual performance. The granularity is such that a .01 point difference could translate into one million ops per second difference.
We do not know what the weighting of the tests are. We do not know how the mullti-threading tests were executed (i.e. the combination).
I give little credence to any synthetic benchmark which does not elaborate how the scoring is done and exactly what is done in each test. The site gives very vague explanations to what it is doing and how the 'passmark' is actually calculated.
I agree the test methodology isn't described too well:
CPU tests: Mathematical operations, compression, encryption, SSE, 3DNow! instructions and more :O
Since their PerformanceTest program has been on the market quite long, now on version 7, I suppose that it will indicate relative differencies between products of same era, tested with the same program version. I also suppose that older versions of the test program aren't fully compatible with the newest component architecture, which will IMO give more accurate results especially for current hardware. Talking about scoring, there is apparently a base level calibrated with the slowest available component. For basic operations the base level might even be from the 8086, adding more tests when new features were put out.
My percential difference between the two processors mentioned was simply calculated from their benchmarks. It was meant to give a some perspective rather than a definitive argument.
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I'm using a 2600-K and have it slightly overclocked at 4.4 Ghz--just because. I don't know if it's helping much if at all in AH. Reason I say this is I run Aida64 in the background and have speeds and temps, etc., displayed on my G-15 keyboard that has a little LCD screen on it. Like a little dashboard. When I'm playing AH, in all circumstances, it doesn't seem to get much past 20% load. Now my GPU (MSI R6950 2GB PE/OC) yeah, it'll get close to max'd out when things get busy with explosions and smoke and puffy but never the CPU. Not even close.
I'd say unless you're looking to use it for something other than AH that might require the extra HP save the money. Put the difference into a kickass video card that'll be more help. I'm thinking my 2600K will have me "future proofed" insofar as AH goes for at least a little while.
I'd add that some mobo's have had problems after updating the BIOS in order to accomodate the newer Ivy Bridge CPUs. My Asus P8Z68 Deluxe is one of them. I CAN run one on my board but it's apparently more trouble than it's worth. At least for now.
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interesting, didn't know intel was secretly selling octa core desktop cpus, let alone marking them as quad cores...
was for lawndart he knows what I mean.
semp
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was still wrong... :neener:
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was still wrong... :neener:
was a private joke.
semp
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interesting, didn't know intel was secretly selling octa core desktop cpus, let alone marking them as quad cores...
Each core can handle two threads, simultaneously. To the OS, a quad core has eight cores. The entire i7 family of quad and 6 core CPU's all double the thread capability. Yes, the six core appears as a 12 core.
The i5 and i3 families of dual core processors appear as quad core processors.
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I have a water cooled system and I dont have a fan for the cpu and trying to fill the system after doing a refurb to the rig I forgot to prime the system before filling it. The CPU got extremly hot and after I got the water flowing it kept shutting down. I let it set for 24 hours and it still did the same thing. So in my best guesstimation I FRIED like an egg the CPU.
I understood what happened from the beginning. You might still try hooking up one of the case fans to the CPU fan header to see if it will boot. I have a cryo phase change cooler (evaporator) on my system and it would not boot until that header was in use.
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I understood what happened from the beginning. You might still try hooking up one of the case fans to the CPU fan header to see if it will boot. I have a cryo phase change cooler (evaporator) on my system and it would not boot until that header was in use.
Huh? Not even with CPU fan guard disabled from the bios? Sounds like a flawed motherboard.
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Not a feature of the motherboard in question. You can set thermal throttling only.