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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: madhogg on September 20, 2012, 09:08:52 PM
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The war of 1812, the brits attacked America in the North Atlantic Sea only because America was helping those suffering in France do to the Brit war with France. I think the American Navy defeated the queens navy....... Do any of you know about the war of 1812? Tell me more please, cant find much info about it on google
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:noid
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Tell me more please, cant find much info about it on google
Are you sure about that?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=war+of+1812
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=war+of+1812+naval+battles
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:rofl
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You might piss off some of our British friends referring to King George III as the Queen by the way..
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Are you sure about that?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=war+of+1812
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=war+of+1812+naval+battles
Love your app :rofl
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You might piss off some of our British friends referring to King George III as the Queen by the way..
:uhoh
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"outrage over insults to national honour after humiliations on the high seas"
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I wonder what this was :headscratch:
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The war of 1812, the brits attacked America in the North Atlantic Sea only because America was helping those suffering in France do to the Brit war with France. I think the American Navy defeated the queens navy....... Do any of you know about the war of 1812? Tell me more please, cant find much info about it on google
Theodore Roosevelt wrote the definitive book on the subject of the Naval War of 1812. You can find a copy on almost any active duty U.S. Naval ship today...
You can download a free e-book copy in different formats here...
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/9104 (http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/9104)
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They did end up burning the white house and many other buildings.
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They did end up burning the white house and many other buildings.
damn canadians....
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Technically the US never defeated the Queen's Navy, since they had the same King both times we went to war against each other...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqkx0zQo46Y
I'm the Greatest Captain of the Queen's Navy.
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Technically the US never defeated the Queen's Navy, since they had the same King both times we went to war against each other...
You might piss off some of our British friends referring to King George III as the Queen by the way..
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqkx0zQo46Y
I'm the Greatest Captain of the Queen's Navy.
Stewie on a ship full of Sea man... I watched that episode it was funny
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They did end up burning the white house and many other buildings.
Didnt they end up marching through the fury of a hurricane with a tornado passing directly through the column? I think I read that too. :devil
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Is this like when the US Navy captured the U-571 and broke the german codes :devil
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The real truth in the matter is.
If England really wanted to invade and pillage the USA during the War of 1812.... They would have easily done so.
Napoleon was a bigger problem, if you had, at that time, been faced with the entire British Navy and Army... there would be little to nothing you could do to stop it.
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Is this like when the US Navy captured the U-571 and broke the german codes :devil
:rofl
:rofl :banana:
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The real truth in the matter is.
If England really wanted to invade and pillage the USA during the War of 1812.... They would have easily done so.
Napoleon was a bigger problem, if you had, at that time, been faced with the entire British Navy and Army... there would be little to nothing you could do to stop it.
That's the reality of it. While the war of 1812 has entered American mythology. In truth very little went right for the fledgling state and only Britain's preoccupation with Napoleon prevented them from unleashing it's full force on the Americans. Really it was only an irritation to the British. But it was an uniting force for the USA.
I read recently that it would interesting to comtemplate what the result of the war would have been if they'd sent a certain Irishman Arthur Wellesley (Duke of Wellington) to deal with the Americans. Lucky escape that!
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damn canadians....
The occupation and burning of Washington DC was a naval operation. A force of 2,500 soldiers under Major General Robert Ross aboard HMS Royal Oak, three frigates, three sloops, and ten other vessels, sailed to the Washington area and together with Royal Marines under Admiral Cockburn's command, Ross landed at Benedict, Maryland on August 19. His forces routed the US Navy's Chesapeake Bay Flotilla, a detachment of US Marines, and the inexperienced American militia at the Battle of Bladensburg on August 24. After that Washington was undefended, its government fled, and the governmental buildings were looted and burned by the British, in revenge for the US Navy doing the same in Upper Canada a year earlier.
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Wellington was just about to be posted to America. He was due to follow his Peninsula Army heading there. A lot of the regiments that gained distinction against France were sent to deal with the upstarts across the sea. Regiments such as the 60th KGL were sent over, with attached officers from many regiments, including the 95th Rifles, one of the most highly decrated units in the army and with some of the most battle honours.
While it is true that the Americian navy triumphed on several small engagements against the Royal Navy, when it came down the last final full scale battle, they were beaten. One the other side, the British navy was successful in almost every engagement until the final battle of New Orleans. Hence the new units sent out. Had the United States not ended the war, they would have been crushed.
As others have said, the War of 1812 was a side show to the Peninsular War. When Napoleon returned in 1815, the units in America were immediatly sent back to Europe. Some men had basically just arrrived in the US when ordered to return home at full speed. Officers such as Harry Smith were turned around and sent back to deal with the 'real' threat.
As for the White House, it was men of the 44th Regiment of Foot who hold the crown for burning it down. They still haven't forgotten :)
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You might piss off some of our British friends referring to King George III as the Queen by the way..
Doubt it, as was a wee bit of a queen.
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Tne Canadians love to take credit for burning the White House but in reality it was British troops who left from the Royal Navy Dockyard in Bermuda who did it.
:)
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For the Brits it was another Colonial War of sorts. They were engaged against Napoleon and America was a big time nusance. The Brits needed to clear their flank and engaged. We won the War though the Brits did considerable damage, short of the Battle of New Orleans.
Correct?
Boo
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:salute Those that fought for thier country.
If the Brits could take back thier territory from those American Upstarts they would have. That is not how things worked out though.
Defeating the worlds greatest Sea Power at the time in a Head to Head Battle would have been Disaster for the young US.
So we sliced off chunks and England sought easier targets just like the MA Hordes do.
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Doubt it, as was a wee bit of a queen.
No no, George III was a Looney, not a Queen. He was the one obsessed with clocks.
And by this time the Kingdom was being all but officially run by his son (since papa had lost most of his grip on reality after about 1810), who took over as George IV when his father finally gave up the ghost in 1820- after a rule of almost exactly 60 years.
Incidentally, his son only ruled for ten.
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They did end up burning the white house and many other buildings.
Yeah but lost to pirate and an adulterer.
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The occupation and burning of Washington DC was a naval operation. A force of 2,500 soldiers under Major General Robert Ross aboard HMS Royal Oak, three frigates, three sloops, and ten other vessels, sailed to the Washington area and together with Royal Marines under Admiral Cockburn's command, Ross landed at Benedict, Maryland on August 19. His forces routed the US Navy's Chesapeake Bay Flotilla, a detachment of US Marines, and the inexperienced American militia at the Battle of Bladensburg on August 24. After that Washington was undefended, its government fled, and the governmental buildings were looted and burned by the British, in revenge for the US Navy doing the same in Upper Canada a year earlier.
Lies we were looking for chemical weapons :old:
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Lies we were looking for chemical weapons :old:
that is LIES! :old:
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Although it is not strictly about the War of 1812, I highly recommend this book.
Six Frigates: The Epic History of the Founding of the U.S. Navy by Ian W. Toll
http://www.amazon.com/Six-Frigates-Epic-History-Founding/dp/039333032X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1348242881&sr=1-1&keywords=six+ships (http://www.amazon.com/Six-Frigates-Epic-History-Founding/dp/039333032X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1348242881&sr=1-1&keywords=six+ships)
It gives a lot of insight to the birth of our nation along with the birth of the Navy and the naval aspects of it's early battles. It is written very well and not just boring historical text. :salute
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The war of 1812, the brits attacked America in the North Atlantic Sea only because America was helping those suffering in France do to the Brit war with France. I think the American Navy defeated the queens navy....... Do any of you know about the war of 1812? Tell me more please, cant find much info about it on google
Roughly translated 'I can find enough google articles to keep me going till next Christmas, but there is a good chance this'll cause a ruck
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Napoleon was a bigger problem, if you had, at that time, been faced with the entire British Navy and Army... there would be little to nothing you could do to stop it.
They said that the first time around
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsRK3DNoa_Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsRK3DNoa_Q)
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We won the War though the Brits did considerable damage, short of the Battle of New Orleans.
Correct?
Boo
Most Americans probably feel they won the war. To them is was kind of a second war of independence. To the British (those who know about it) it was a sideshow to the Napoleonic war. To the rest of the world (those who know about it) it was a draw, bordering on defeat for the United States.
On one hand the U.S. had declared war on the most powerful nation on Earth and survived; no small feat. On the other hand the U.S. had declared war on another nation, and invaded it (Lower and Upper Canada) only to be repulsed, had its capitol sacked, and ended the war without achieving any strategic goals.
From the British point of view they had suffered shipping losses to piracy by U.S. ships (or privateers supported by the U.S.), been declared war on and invaded (Canada). The British repulsed the U.S. attempt to annex Canada and through a number of local actions, including the sacking of Washington DC, put the U.S. in its place.
In modern historical examination of the war of 1812 the British really hold the higher moral ground, and achieved their war goals. The perhaps most striking moral act of the war was the British offer of freedom to American slaves. Several thousand slaves escaped to the British and were resettled elsewhere in the British Empire, some in Canada. The U.S. protested Britain's refusal to return the slaves, which violated the Treaty of Ghent. After Russian arbitration instead of returning the slaves the British paid the U.S. government, which reimbursed the slave owners.
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The War of 1812 probably has a lot of differences depending on what side everyone favors. I remember watching a History/Military Channel's version of the war a few years back. The war largely started because the British blockaded the Atlantic coast of the US. I remember the British trying to take a few key ports, but fell short from to bad luck.
Heck if you want to know more about the US's military luck, just watch all the episodes of The History Channel's - Battle 360. For example, more than a few times the USS Enterprise experienced a little bad luck. A few of those bad luck experiences are thought to have saved her from an even worse fate.
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The War of 1812 probably has a lot of differences depending on what side everyone favors. I remember watching a History/Military Channel's version of the war a few years back. The war largely started because the British blockaded the Atlantic coast of the US. I remember the British trying to take a few key ports, but fell short from to bad luck.
Heck if you want to know more about the US's military luck, just watch all the episodes of The History Channel's - Battle 360. For example, more than a few times the USS Enterprise experienced a little bad luck. A few of those bad luck experiences are thought to have saved her from a worse fate.
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Most Americans probably feel they won the war. To them is was kind of a second war of independence. To the British (those who know about it) it was a sideshow to the Napoleonic war. To the rest of the world (those who know about it) it was a draw, bordering on defeat for the United States.
On one hand the U.S. had declared war on the most powerful nation on Earth and survived; no small feat. On the other hand the U.S. had declared war on another nation, and invaded it (Lower and Upper Canada) only to be repulsed, had its capitol sacked, and ended the war without achieving any strategic goals.
From the British point of view they had suffered shipping losses to piracy by U.S. ships (or privateers supported by the U.S.), been declared war on and invaded (Canada). The British repulsed the U.S. attempt to annex Canada and through a number of local actions, including the sacking of Washington DC, put the U.S. in its place.
In modern historical examination of the war of 1812 the British really hold the higher moral ground, and achieved their war goals. The perhaps most striking moral act of the war was the British offer of freedom to American slaves. Several thousand slaves escaped to the British and were resettled elsewhere in the British Empire, some in Canada. The U.S. protested Britain's refusal to return the slaves, which violated the Treaty of Ghent. After Russian arbitration instead of returning the slaves the British paid the U.S. government, which reimbursed the slave owners.
Are you American?
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I can tell you this.
As in the war of 1812 and indeed the War of Independence.
If Britain REALLY REALLY REALLY was serious about removing these pesky tea vandal colonials ( I still haven't forgiven you yanks for destroying such precious drinking pleasure ). They would have Sailed, then Marched, all the way through, exterminating every living thing and taken North America back.
I think its the biggest touch of irony that the USA is notorious amongst nations of the world for the endless taunts of "We saved you in such a such". Yet the USA's entire existence was, and IS, dependent on other countries.
Without the support of France and Spain in 1776 and France in the war of 1812. And Britain being allowed to bring its true might to the battlefield. The USA would very likely be a commonwealth country. With independence secured at roughly the same time as Canada. In "The America's bill" or some such thing.
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The War of 1812 probably has a lot of differences depending on what side everyone favors. I remember watching a History/Military Channel's version of the war a few years back. The war largely started because the British blockaded the Atlantic coast of the US. I remember the British trying to take a few key ports, but fell short from to bad luck.
There were many reasons for the U.S. government to start the war, but that was not one of them. The British didn't blockade U.S. ports until after the declaration of war. The primary reason for war was American expansionism. Expansion into the Northwest Territory was being obstructed by the native population, supported and armed by the British (from Canada). There was also a real desire to annex Canada and if not rid the Americas of the British once and for all, at least control them. Madison and his advisers believed that conquest of Canada would be easy, and that economic coercion would force the British to come to terms by cutting off the food supply for their West Indies colonies.
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Are you American?
Um... No. I'm from Norway.
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So the Brits just up and walked away from one of the richest resource areas on Earth after figthing over it for hundreds of years they just up and walked away? No wonder the empire collapsed.
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That's a very simplistic view. A very large part of the peace was in fact trade; the British blockade reduced American foreign trade to a trickle, but also hurt British interests in the West Indies and Canada that had depended on that trade. The economic fallout was so critical that the six states of New England was considering secession from the Union. British landowners grew weary of high taxes, and colonial interests and merchants called on the government to reopen trade with the U.S. by ending the war.
America and Britain had already become co-dependent on each other's trade; both nations quickly resumed trade after the end of the war, and over time nurtured a growing friendship that survives to this day.
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Oh and btw, the British Empire never collapsed. It changed, politically, economically, over time, to the British Commonwealth which continues today as the Commonwealth of Nations.
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America and Britain had already become co-dependent on each other's trade; both nations quickly resumed trade after the end of the war, and over time nurtured a growing friendship that survives to this day.
But If they REALLY REALLY REALLY wanted to they could made it part of the empire again and controlled the tariffs and taxes from trade between the 2. Leaving it Independent nixed that they had to be far sighted enough to realise that sooner or late the US would become independant of even their trade and a competitor.
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To quote Milton Berle (as J. Russel Finch) in It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World -
"If it wasn't for "Lend-Lease" and giving you billions - that you never even said thank you for - the whole phony outfit would have sunk under the Atlantic years ago." :rofl
Take that, "Lef-tenant" Colonel Algernon Hawthorne! :D
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But If they REALLY REALLY REALLY wanted to they could made it part of the empire again and controlled the tariffs and taxes from trade between the 2. Leaving it Independent nixed that they had to be far sighted enough to realise that sooner or late the US would become independant of even their trade and a competitor.
Again too simple. A war is very costly, and you have to pay that cost now, not a hundred years later. Even an English King isn't immune to the will of the people.
As for the U.S. becoming independent on British trade and a competitor, that's just nonsensical. More trade is always better, for everyone; that's why we do it so much. Today the United States accounts for the United Kingdom's largest single export market. Total trade of imports and exports between the United Kingdom and the United States amounted to the sum of $107.2 billion in 2007. The United States and the United Kingdom share the world's largest foreign direct investment partnership. In 2005, American direct investment in the UK totaled $324 billion while British direct investment in the United States totaled $282 billion. You two are economically joined at the hip, so to speak.
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Again too simple. A war is very costly, and you have to pay that cost now, not a hundred years later. Even an English King isn't immune to the will of the people.
As for the U.S. becoming independent on British trade and a competitor, that's just nonsensical. More trade is always better, for everyone; that's why we do it so much. Today the United States accounts for the United Kingdom's largest single export market. Total trade of imports and exports between the United Kingdom and the United States amounted to the sum of $107.2 billion in 2007. The United States and the United Kingdom share the world's largest foreign direct investment partnership. In 2005, American direct investment in the UK totaled $324 billion while British direct investment in the United States totaled $282 billion. You two are economically joined at the hip, so to speak.
Exactly and that portion that belongs to the US could have been even more dumped into Britain's GNP right as well asd all the revenue generated in the US would be subject to British tax? To fund British projects and intrests, so why walk away when the gains so outweight the risks?
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Also the US beat Canada in rowing in the Olympics if you count Canada as part of the Queen's navy.
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Exactly and that portion that belongs to the US could have been even more dumped into Britain's GNP right as well asd all the revenue generated in the US would be subject to British tax? To fund British projects and intrests, so why walk away when the gains so outweight the risks?
At the time the U.S. was not worth the risk, and the British people were tired of war (with the French). The war with America (the sideshow) was simply not worth the cost. Occupying a country/colony with a hostile population is extremely costly and is seldom worth the trouble.
Today we call it "globalization". One day it may render most, if not all wars, not worth the cost.
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Queen's Navy was piece of cake; we are under UFO attack ! :old: ,
klingonians ,beasts of the abyss or fallen angels?! I was listening this story on Coast to Coast this week; :noid The US and Chinesse Navy secret joint operations vs UFO? :bhead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utROaw1soe4
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..and another UFO report this evening :noid
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19683687
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At the time the U.S. was not worth the risk, and the British people were tired of war (with the French). The war with America (the sideshow) was simply not worth the cost. Occupying a country/colony with a hostile population is extremely costly and is seldom worth the trouble.
Today we call it "globalization". One day it may render most, if not all wars, not worth the cost.
OK, how much Money has the "sideshow" made for itself in the last 200 years? You take America back you could recoup you losses from the French war in a economical blink of an eye.
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Queen's Navy was piece of cake; we are under UFO attack ! :old: ,
klingonians ,beasts of the abyss or fallen angels?! I was listening this story on Coast to Coast this week; :noid The US and Chinesse Navy secret joint operations vs UFO? :bhead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utROaw1soe4
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..and another UFO report this evening :noid
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19683687
GHI I love you, you wacky bastage. Don't forget about the CIA vs. Airforce nook war in the Tunnels http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=4009 (http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=4009):noid :noid
But I gotta say I saw the movie they made about this with Rhianna in it and it wernt all that great
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It is clear to me now, America won or else we would be under brit control and canada would also be under Brit control... Who knows maybe it would be a better world if the Brits had won.. I would be polite and the world wars would never have happen :banana:
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Technically the US never defeated the Queen's Navy, since they had the same King both times we went to war against each other...
:huh
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It is clear to me now, America won or else we would be under brit control and canada would also be under Brit control...
How do you figure? Any war America survives is a victory?
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Didn't the Vikings give up on North America too? :D
Btw GScholz congrats, it's taken a long time since you returned to see your bias come back..much longer than I expected.
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I am trying to remember where I read this, but it was years ago. Someone wrote that the Constellation class "frigates" were cheating.
The average Royal Navy frigate carried 36 guns with smaller bores, the Constitution and her sisters mounted 44 heavier cannon. With her
speed and well built timbers she was more like a pocket battle ship.
The RN had a tradition of winning single ship combat no matter what the force differential, so they weren't too happy about the 1812 losses.
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Didn't the Vikings give up on North America too? :D
Btw GScholz congrats, it's taken a long time since you returned to see your bias come back..much longer than I expected.
Exactly what is my bias in this case? The opinions I've expressed in this thread are not really my own, but those of an amalgam of historians. Most historians conclude that the war ended in a draw, with a minority concluding that the war constituted a British victory and an American defeat. Perhaps you should search your own feelings and bias in this case.
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How do you figure? Any war America survives is a victory?
But did the Norwegians surrender to the Germans in WWII? :aok
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Foreign countrys dont like to recognize the greatness of America, we kick your arse in any war, the Olympics, and we got to the moon first. It is natural that foreigners are a little bit jealous..
:rock cause weeeee are the champions we are not the losers :rock
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:lol funny that you mention the Olympics, if you look at the number of medals earned compared to the size of the population, the UK is significantly more talented than both American and China ;---)
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and then we all can hate on china when tehy become the big dogs, unless thier poor land management forces them to start rationing food.
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Foreign countrys dont like to recognize the greatness of America, we kick your arse in any war, the Olympics, and we got to the moon first. It is natural that foreigners are a little bit jealous..
:rock cause weeeee are the champions we are not the losers :rock
How pathetic. You should have just said so in the first place instead of asking for factual information. I should have known better.
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How pathetic. You should have just said so in the first place instead of asking for factual information. I should have known better.
You denied that we won, but we did. You say America was just a sideshow for the Brits.
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Foreign countrys dont like to recognize the greatness of America, we kick your arse in any war, the Olympics, and we got to the moon first. It is natural that foreigners are a little bit jealous..
:rock cause weeeee are the champions we are not the losers :rock
Moon landing was fake and you know it :old:
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and then we all can hate on china when tehy become the big dogs, unless thier poor land management forces them to start rationing food.
China is part of the capitalist system now and all your investment portfolios are being invested in it :rofl
China imports massive amounts of food products from the US. :rofl
Its 1 child policy has started to have a adverse effect on population which cannot be reversed.
In parts of China there are not enough females to produce children.
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Foreign countrys dont like to recognize the greatness of America, we kick your arse in any war, the Olympics, and we got to the moon first.
There are other lists you don't do so well on.
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You denied that we won, but we did. You say America was just a sideshow for the Brits.
You are a bit of a pillock really aren't you? As everyone thought your original post was merely inflammatory and had nothing to do with a search for information. You just wanted to incite an argument, and when you began to get reasoned and erudite responses you simply revert to writing crap.
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Did the US steal the Philippines of the Spanish?.
Isolationists :rofl
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no one won the 1812 war , it ended in stalemate .
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no one won the 1812 war , it ended in stalemate .
Yet the USA did not occupy what was to become Canada.
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Madhogg, we all know you're Mexican.
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On the tangent about what the world would have been like had the British retained control of the colonies too much is being said about retaining control militarily with a hostile population. The UK's best shot at retaining the colonies would have been if the faction in Parliament that wanted to grant representation to the colonies had won. Who knows what would have happened in the long run had that happened, but if we'd (the colonies) been granted full participation in the United Kingdom's government the American Revolution would not have happened in 1776.
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This is true :old:
And you would not put syrup on meat products :old:
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And you would not put syrup on meat products :old:
Have you tried it? also I say we blame the canadians (http://www.gifsoup.com/view3/1746885/super-troopers-syrup-chug-o.gif)
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Hell yea i chug maple syurp! :aok
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Yet the USA did not occupy what was to become Canada.
USA did not occupy Canada, Britian didn't conquer US. Stalemate. What else would you call it when neither side accomplishes the goals set out at the beginning of the campaign.
Elsewhere in 1812. Wellington captured Ciudad Rodrigo, marched south and captured Badajoz, marched north and defeated Marmont at Salamanca, mached south to liberate Madrid. Then marched North east and failed to capture Burgos so retreated to Ciudad Rodrigo. History remembers the campaign as 'Inconclusive' because he failed in his goal of beating the French.
If we take this, then the war of 1812 was inconclusive as well, or a stalemate.
you have to remember Britian had been at war with France for nearly 20 years at this point. 20 YEARS! Imagine! Some of the soldiers fighting in the war had never known peace! There was a great weariness towards war, even with France by 1812. Then a country that is still young tries its hand.
Another thing that can not be over stressed concerning moral towards the war is the fact that America is also an English speaking country. It is very hard to count someone who speaks your own language and looks like you as an enemy. The French were easier. They spoke a differant language, but the americians spoke English as well, so a lot of people found it hard to count them as enemies.
The Americians like to think of it as a Victory because they survived, but look at it. They invaded Canada, were beaten, pushed back, lost they Gonvernment building (The White house) lost several major cities were pushed back to New Orleans where they defeated the British, then pushed them back.
Sounds like a stalemate to me. Beaten, Pushed back, Held, Countered, Held. = Stalemate
The British hardly know the war, due to the fact that, as has been mentioned many many times, it was a sideshow to Napoleon. Napoleon was the big bad Corsican Tyrant. The main enemy. In WW2, who was the main enemy? Hitler or Mooslini? Both Countries fought, so why is hitler considered the main enemy? Simply because they was the worst threat.
War of 1812, Napoleon was the biggest threat. Therefore America was nothing more than a sideshow to the French Wars.
Gsholz, You seem to know a bit about the war, have you studied it? If so where did you study?
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Are you sure there was a battle in 1812, I think it was just an overture:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0BLK4rs0Sw
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There are other lists you don't do so well on.
Shhhhh! Dont tell them that they do not know :neener:
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.... :O :D That was the best 1812 overture ever.
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Are you sure there was a battle in 1812, I think it was just an overture:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0BLK4rs0Sw
Ironically in light of this thread that overture commemorates a very different battle; the defense of Russia from the invasion of Napoleon. Once again the little Frenchman takes the spotlight. ;)
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Gsholz, You seem to know a bit about the war, have you studied it? If so where did you study?
Afraid not. I haven't done any serious study on the war of 1812 beyond reading a few books.
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Ironically in light of this thread that overture commemorates a very different battle; the defense of Russia from the invasion of Napoleon. Once again the little Frenchman takes the spotlight. ;)
I know :lol
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Mooslini
:rofl
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:rofl
yea yea yea, shuddup. Compared to some of the spelling on this board, one or two mistakes in a post is a very well written post :aok :P
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yea yea yea, shuddup. Compared to some of the spelling on this board, one or two mistakes in a post is a very well written post :aok :P
Sorry... It hit my funny bone just right.. ;)
You may not have been around when Brady5 was a regular player and poster, but his spelling and grammar was astounding....
A typical example....
Brady 5 writes: "Sweat Jesius!"
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I don't remember Brady, but seeing some of the other grammer here, it's horrific! Makes me laugh sometimes. Plus I can never get my head around That-Italian-guys-name-I-Can't-Spell and how to spell it :)
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Sorry... It hit my funny bone just right.. ;)
You may not have been around when Brady5 was a regular player and poster, but his spelling and grammar was astounding....
A typical example....
Brady 5 writes: "Sweat Jesius!"
:rofl
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In a nutshell.
US goes to war against Canada and England.
US loses war against Canada and England. However because the great Irish descendant and future president Andrew Jackson enlisted the help of local Pirates in New Orleans, he was able win total victory in that battle. Shortly after that, the guys we sent to negotiate peace returned so the headlines read like this.\
Jackson Defeats the English.
The War is Over.
This is why most americans don't realize we lost that war and Canada and England won.
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USA defeated canada and england... Only famous Irish guy i know you can find on the Lucky Charms cereal box..they are after me lucky charms!.... My personal list of the countrys with the most honorable and strongest warriors.
USA#1
Japan#2
Russia#3
Korea#4
Africa#5
To make list short ill just the ones with out honor.
brits, canadians, australians did not make the list, i feel they have no honor, only good excuses when denying the greatness of the USA.
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USA defeated canada and england... Only famous Irish guy i know you can find on the Lucky Charms cereal box..they are after me lucky charms!.... My personal list of the countrys with the most honorable and strongest warriors.
USA#1
Japan#2
Russia#3
Korea#4
Africa#5
To make list short ill just the ones with out honor.
brits, canadians, australians did not make the list, i feel they have no honor, only good excuses when denying the greatness of the USA.
If your head was any further up your arse you'd be a doughnut.
Isn't that ma calling you for dinner?
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USA defeated canada and england... Only famous Irish guy i know you can find on the Lucky Charms cereal box..they are after me lucky charms!.... My personal list of the countrys with the most honorable and strongest warriors.
USA#1
Japan#2
Russia#3
Korea#4
Africa#5
To make list short ill just the ones with out honor.
brits, canadians, australians did not make the list, i feel they have no honor, only good excuses when denying the greatness of the USA.
I would put the brits right up with america, both fighting for #1 if I had a 'honor list' - especially seeing how they've fought with us in Afghanistan etc.
:salute My friends from across the pond :D
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What exactly were your criteria for coming up with that list? The Russian forces brutalised women in WW2 and exterminated whole communities in Afghanistan.
The Japanese have not been engaged in conflict since WW2, where their armed forces were responsible for some of the most abhorrent war crimes ever recorded.
The Koreans shot and killed unarmed and bound US soldiers and tortured and beheaded British troops. And African armies have been responsible for the most appalling acts of genocide.
Australians, Canadians, Kiwi's, Brits, Indians, and many more have fought honourably beside the USs for generations, many are still fighting alongside the US.
Have you ever served? From your ridiculous posts I would suggest not.
You are a trolling idiot or simply an idiot
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USA defeated canada and england... Only famous Irish guy i know you can find on the Lucky Charms cereal box..they are after me lucky charms!.... My personal list of the countrys with the most honorable and strongest warriors.
USA#1
Japan#2
Russia#3
Korea#4
Africa#5
To make list short ill just the ones with out honor.
brits, canadians, australians did not make the list, i feel they have no honor, only good excuses when denying the greatness of the USA.
Africa is a country?
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I would put the brits right up with america, both fighting for #1 if I had a 'honor list' - especially seeing how they've fought with us in Afghanistan etc.
:salute My friends from across the pond :D
Brits are #1 but this one brit made me mad so in my madness I created this post... Im sorry Brits, I have been acting like a child. Brits are awesome!!!! But we can all agree that canadians are not awesome right?? JUST KIDDING
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What exactly were your criteria for coming up with that list? The Russian forces brutalised women in WW2 and exterminated whole communities in Afghanistan.
The Japanese have not been engaged in conflict since WW2, where their armed forces were responsible for some of the most abhorrent war crimes ever recorded.
The Koreans shot and killed unarmed and bound US soldiers and tortured and beheaded British troops. And African armies have been responsible for the most appalling acts of genocide.
Australians, Canadians, Kiwi's, Brits, Indians, and many more have fought honourably beside the USs for generations, many are still fighting alongside the US.
Have you ever served? From your ridiculous posts I would suggest not.
You are a trolling idiot or simply an idiot
You mad? Danny Go have some tea and crumpets with harry potter and tell him about your feelings...
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USA defeated canada and england... Only famous Irish guy i know you can find on the Lucky Charms cereal box..they are after me lucky charms!.... My personal list of the countrys with the most honorable and strongest warriors.
USA#1
Japan#2
Russia#3
Korea#4
Africa#5
To make list short ill just the ones with out honor.
brits, canadians, australians did not make the list, i feel they have no honor, only good excuses when denying the greatness of the USA.
Wow.
Really Brits,Canadians and Australians have been nothing but good allies. Obvious troll, but they deserve as much respect as any of our own military.
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Wow.
Really Brits,Canadians and Australians have been nothing but good allies. Obvious troll, but they deserve as much respect as any of our own military.
You right on kilo... I'm Sorry aussies brits and canadians. The end.
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USA defeated canada and england... Only famous Irish guy i know you can find on the Lucky Charms cereal box..they are after me lucky charms!.... My personal list of the countrys with the most honorable and strongest warriors.
USA#1
Japan#2
Russia#3
Korea#4
Africa#5
To make list short ill just the ones with out honor.
brits, canadians, australians did not make the list, i feel they have no honor, only good excuses when denying the greatness of the USA.
Hey Andrew Jackson was a great president.
Edicate youself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGfxyeuy8u8
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Hey Andrew Jackson was a great president.
Edicate youself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGfxyeuy8u8
Ya he was, what about carrot top?
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To make list short ill just the ones with out honor.
What is this "honor" you are talking about? I am not familiar with this concept.
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What is this "honor" you are talking about? I am not familiar with this concept.
Muahaha the word just sounds fancy so i use it
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:rofl madhogg you are a nut!
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Ya he was, what about carrot top?
That was a low blow.
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:)
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I just read all 8 pages of this mess....
oh.
dear.
lord.
:bhead
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I just read all 8 pages of this mess....
oh.
dear.
lord.
:bhead
:x :x :x :banana: :neener:
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Rob, You do know that the battle of New Orleans took place after peace had already been negotiated. Due to the time it took for news to travel across the Atlantic back then, the battle was still fought.
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In a nutshell.
US goes to war against Canada and England.
US loses war against Canada and England. However because the great Irish descendant and future president Andrew Jackson enlisted the help of local Pirates in New Orleans, he was able win total victory in that battle. Shortly after that, the guys we sent to negotiate peace returned so the headlines read like this.\
Jackson Defeats the English.
The War is Over.
This is why most americans don't realize we lost that war and Canada and England won.
Battle of New Orleans actually occurred two weeks after the war "ended".
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Theodore Roosevelt wrote the definitive book on the subject of the Naval War of 1812
I just finished this book, and found it to be an excellent source of accurate information on the war, particularly the Naval aspects of 1812.
The USA's first 6 Frigates were a timely counter to the British ruled oceans. The British were THE class of the world at this point, and had been for quite some time. Their 1000 ship navy with dozens of Ships of the Line and hundreds of cruisers and frigates couldn't be beaten, and even their smaller ships had a reputation for winning against short odds due to sheer "tenacity". The frigates that America used I think are the historical beginning of American military superiority. The ideas behind their design and employment can be seen in many descendants, and not just naval vessels. The "up gunning" of the Frigates to a much more powerful warships while retaining the speed and maneuverability of smaller ships allowed them to go toe to toe with larger ships, and completely dominate equal sized enemy Frigates, Sloops, Brigs, and other similarly sized warships. Anyone who takes the time to read through this book will get a sense of what I'm talking about - I couldn't help but think about other American innovations and inventions in the arts of war while reading about the first warships she put to sea.
During the war of 1812 the US ships for the most part, and in almost every case with the Frigates came out on the winning end of the stick, and decisively so versus many highly regarded "Crack" British warships. In fact, as you can read in the book, many British military authors of the time had to become apologists for what they thought was "poor" performance from the usually dominant Royal Navy. In Roosevelt's opinion this wasn't the case, the British fought well, but they were simply caught at one of those times in history where the worm was turning, and the American ships used new ideas in terms of ship construction, armament, gunnery, and seamanship to be victorious.
Again, anyone in this thread who isn't here just to troll and be retarded and is actually interested in military history and fact should read this book and get a great idea of how things went at sea during the war of 1812.
I just ordered "Six Frigates", hopefully it'll be as informative as Roosevelt's book.
+1 for Widewing, as usual, a poster on this bbs who contributes well thought out posts and suggestions.
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Gman you get an A++ !
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Thanks for the info gman , will read book
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Kind of off topic here but I read a book a few months back "A War of Frontier and Empire The Philippine-American War, 1899-1902" In the beginning it talks about the U.S. Navy fighting the Spanish navy in Manilla. After a stop in Hong Kong, some British sailors there were very surprised to hear where they were going, and gave the Americans no chance against the Spanish. As it turns out, it ended up being a very one-sided victory for the Americans, and ended with a siege of Manilla with fire support from the U.S. ships sitting in the bay. A very good read overall.
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Gman,
I haven't read that book, but sounds like it would be interesting. I don't like people who say that the British behaved poorly at sea during the War of 1812. As yuo mentioned, the US had some great innovations concerning Ship building at this time, allowing them to create fast, sleak, yeat powerful ships. The British were the first navy to feel this wrath.
However on Land it was a differant story. The British army still dominated the field, same as it had been doing for several years, mainly since the Wars of Independance. Rifles and Skirmishers were now an integral part of the battalion giving them a massive advantage. This ment that most engagements, they British walked off the field as the victor.
Combine the US domination at sea with their loses on land and you start to see why it was a stalemate.
Which, I believe is what we are all arguing about lol. Amazing. Almost every history book written has said that it was a stalemate, and yet so many words are wasted arguing over it. Reminds me of people saying Waterloo was a British victory :rolleyes:
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To say that the Americans dominated at sea is somewhat misleading. True, they won a significant number of battles and skirmishes, but only because they chose their battles well (as they should). The Royal Navy still blockaded the entire U.S. coast from late-1813 onward to the extent that most American merchant ships and naval vessels were confined to port. American exports decreased from $130 million in 1807 to $7 million in 1814. Of the eight American frigates deployed in the war, the largest ships available to the fledgling U.S. Navy, Chesapeake, Essex, and President was captured by the Royal Navy while United States and Macedonian ended the war blockaded and hulked in New London, Connecticut.
When considering the War of 1812, many Americans focus on the U.S. Navy's stirring victories over the Royal Navy in frigate duels. However, the British emerged from the conflict with total command of the oceans and broad experience in blockade and amphibious operations.
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To say that the Americans dominated at sea is somewhat misleading. True, they won a significant number of battles and skirmishes, but only because they chose their battles well (as they should). The Royal Navy still blockaded the entire U.S. coast from late-1813 onward to the extent that most American merchant ships and naval vessels were confined to port. American exports decreased from $130 million in 1807 to $7 million in 1814. Of the eight American frigates deployed in the war, the largest ships available to the fledgling U.S. Navy, Chesapeake, Essex, and President was captured by the Royal Navy while United States and Macedonian ended the war blockaded and hulked in New London, Connecticut.
When considering the War of 1812, many Americans focus on the U.S. Navy's stirring victories over the Royal Navy in frigate duels. However, the British emerged from the conflict with total command of the oceans and broad experience in blockade and amphibious operations.
Oh certainly. but considering the frigate battles where what the majority of the naval conflict consisted of, then we can say that the US dominated the sea. The fact that the US lost the major sea battle shows that the frigates were the main source of their force, and that the RN was still the main force in large scale engagements. This is also shown by the fact that the US failed to lift the blockades on their ports throughout the war. The fact remains also that the White House was burnt down by a amphibious assualt, which would have been impossible had the US been the main force with large Ships of The Line.
The RN was still the main force, but for the majority of the war, the US frigates dominated the RN equivilants.
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Actually the majority of the naval conflict consisted of merchant raiding and blockade. The handful battles exclusively between warships, while featuring prominent in the news of the time, was pretty insignificant for the war effort of either side.
The United States had maritime rather than naval strength; the American merchant marine had grown rapidly in size and importance after the Revolutionary War, and the U.S. Navy's greatest success was the capture or sinking of 1,175 British merchant ships by American naval and privateer ships. However, this aspect of the war was hardly one-sided; The blockade of American ports was crippling, and the Royal Navy and privateers recaptured 373 merchants and sunk or captured another 1,593 American merchantmen.
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Ahh my apologies. I was wrong. As I believe i mentioned before, the war of 1812 is not my main subject to study, so what I know I have picked up around campfires and by what is referanced to in the Peninsuar War books that I read.
Always interesting to be corrected :)
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It's easier to look at the naval war of 1812-1815 as a merchant war with a handful of battles between merchant-raiding warships when they simply happened upon each other or tried to run the British blockade. As an example of how separate the naval war was from the direct armed conflict on land (with the exceptions of amphibious operations) one of the more famous actions, the capture of HMS Java by USS Constitution, happened off the coast of Brazil.
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The US dominated the inland waters.
This would have change if the war had continued:
HMS St. Lawrence: When the war broke out, the largest British warship on the Great Lakes was the Royal George, a 22-gun brig. Two years later, the Royal Navy had launched HMS St. Lawrence, pierced for 104 guns and nearly as large as HMS Victory, Admiral Nelson's flagship. An even larger warship, HMS Canada, was on the stocks at Kingston.
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I cant help but to feel proud. Our Navy truely dominated the Brittish navy. The USA was blessed from birth. #1 from day one. Thank God for blessing America.
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The USA was blessed from birth. #1 from day one. Thank God for blessing America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TynFaEQj_Ys
"Because the Earth is billions of years old, and America is 250 years old - and that's when God decided to choose a team"
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I cant help but to feel proud. Our Navy truely dominated the Brittish navy. The USA was blessed from birth. #1 from day one. Thank God for blessing America.
Might want to ask those that survived the Happy Times off the American East coast how great the USN was.
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It's interesting how the Trent Affair of 1861 nearly brought the U.S. and Britain to blows... Both realized that war between these two nations would benefit neither. England would surely lose Canada. International trade would be in great jeopardy for the U.S. due to England having a much larger blue water navy. Moreover, such a war would draw much manpower and treasure from forcing the Confederate states back into the union. Still, the north fought that war with one arm behind its back. Had a war developed between England and the United States, the full industrial power of the nation combined with an overwhelming national will would have had a huge effect. It's important to note that the U.S. would dominate coastal waters and the St. Lawrence. In addition, we must consider that France was flexing its muscle in Mexico at that same time, and that was yet another distraction that the U.S. wanted to avoid.
By 1865, the U.S. Navy had 471 combat ships in service, and fully 1/3 were riverine vessels. The huge Union ironclad fleet was extremely formidable, and no nation on earth could successfully challenge it in its home waters. Then there was the Pacific, where Britain would be more hard pressed to project power very far beyond their colonial holdings. To engage the U.S. Navy successfully, Royal Navy assets would have to be drawn from Britain's many world-wide commitments, something England was not especially interested in having to do. In 1861, with the prospect of a long, expensive war, and the loss of considerable trade revenue for each nation, both wisely sought to settle things diplomatically, which they did. By late 1862, British intervention on behalf of the Confederacy was impossible. Once the American Civil War became a war to end slavery, there was too much to lose and little to be gained by England by throwing in with the southern rebellion. After the Emancipation Proclamation, if the Confederacy was to become a recognized independent nation, it would have to do so without outside help.
This point in time, I think, was the where Britain's naval power began to shrink in power relative to that of the United States. Still, it would take more than 30 years for the U.S. Navy to have the sea power required to thwart European influence in the western hemisphere.
As to the War of 1812, the U.S. Navy possessed the best Frigates on the planet, with excellent commanders and crews. However, the sheer size of the Royal Navy was such that in anything resembling fleet actions, the Brits could handily overwhelm with numbers, if not in technology or individual ship quality. Ultimately, the U.S. Navy would have to fight a war of commerce raiding, using their superior Frigates to chew up British merchant shipping and drawing much of the Royal Navy's combat assets into guarding shipping and pursuing the very fast and powerful Frigates. Lacking anything near the power to challenge the Royal Navy nose to nose, it would become the naval equivalent of guerrilla warfare. A persistent and troublesome problem for the Royal Navy, but not something that would prevent the Brits from going anywhere they wanted when they gathered adequate forces.
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I dont deny that many many years ago some other country was world power #1 and I dont deny that in a far far away future some other country could be #1.. There is no need for jealousy. And I'm not sorry that I feel proud of my country. God bless America.
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Bill Murray said it best when talking about America.
"WE ARE AMERICANS... DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS..... OUR FOREFATHERS... WERE KICKED OUT... OF EVERY DECENT COUNTRY IN THE WORLD"
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Bill Murray said it best when talking about America.
"WE ARE AMERICANS... DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS..... OUR FOREFATHERS... WERE KICKED OUT... OF EVERY DECENT COUNTRY IN THE WORLD"
Wait how did Australia get its start?
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I dont deny that many many years ago some other country was world power #1 and I dont deny that in a far far away future some other country could be #1.. There is no need for jealousy. And I'm not sorry that I feel proud of my country. God bless America.
The bigger they are they bigger the fall. Just look at the old CCCP. It is not that far in the future with regards to China.
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I'm an English Ex-Patriot. But point taken Nathan.
Australia is very similar to the United States in origin, in fact, almost identical.
The United States was originally settled by the Spanish in Florida and the French in the Great Lakes. With Britain being represented by Sir Walter Reilly, who colonized Virginia, Virginia being named after HRH Queen Elizabeth I or "The Virgin Queen".
Being under colonial law instead of English Homeland law, Puritans migrated to escape persecution by the Anglican church which was the ruling religious body in Britain at the time. After realizing that America, like Australia, had large amounts of space and arable land, The Government of Britain decided that America should be used as a penal colony. Between 1610 and 1776 over 50,000 British convicts were "transported" to the Americas. As well as many migrants attracted by the exotic new riches the American continent provided.
Australia's history is almost identical..
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Bill Murray said it best when talking about America.
"WE ARE AMERICANS... DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS..... OUR FOREFATHERS... WERE KICKED OUT... OF EVERY DECENT COUNTRY IN THE WORLD"
:rofl :lol
(http://i891.photobucket.com/albums/ac116/laguaridadelciclopebizco/galeriavatar/bill-murray-stripes-150x1501.jpg)
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I'm an English Ex-Patriot. But point taken Nathan.
Australia is very similar to the United States in origin, in fact, almost identical.
The United States was originally settled by the Spanish in Florida and the French in the Great Lakes. With Britain being represented by Sir Walter Reilly, who colonized Virginia, Virginia being named after HRH Queen Elizabeth I or "The Virgin Queen".
Being under colonial law instead of English Homeland law, Puritans migrated to escape persecution by the Anglican church which was the ruling religious body in Britain at the time. After realizing that America, like Australia, had large amounts of space and arable land, The Government of Britain decided that America should be used as a penal colony. Between 1610 and 1776 over 50,000 British convicts were "transported" to the Americas. As well as many migrants attracted by the exotic new riches the American continent provided.
Australia's history is almost identical..
And you blinkin Austrailians just keep coming back! I have more Aussies working in my hotel than Scots!
Widewing - That is very interesting reading. I knew the British supported the Confederete cause, but but did not realise the full reasons for the lack of intervention. Its not like Britian is afraid of sticking its nose in where it doesn't belong. Looking at Ireland and India.
Maddhog- Do you actually have anything important to add to this conversation or are you just here to spout nonsense?
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vote madhogg for 2016, :rolleyes:
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vote madhogg for 2016, :rolleyes:
:aok :aok
You know people have told me I would make a great politician, others have told me I should have my own Tele reality show. Some folks are entertained by nonsense so I give it to them. Enjoy and have a laugh.
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Puritans migrated to escape persecution
Migrated to persecute. They left because they didn't like Engish religous freedom, the intolerant bunch they were.
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Migrated to persecute. They left because they didn't like Engish religious freedom, the intolerant bunch they were.
Yes sir, I think you are right! So most migrated for religious freedom and i think some just wanted to break away from the Brittish social structure which oppressed the poor. Ya, America was founded by Europeans who love freedom and fairness.
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Yes sir, I think you are right! So most migrated for religious freedom and i think some just wanted to break away from the Brittish social structure which oppressed the poor. Ya, America was founded by Europeans who love freedom and fairness.
So much so that they practically exterminated the native population.
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So much so that they practically exterminated the native population.
Madhogg could not be reached for comments on this subject. Please leave a message after the beat. Beep. :noid :eek: :noid
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The war of 1812, the brits attacked America in the North Atlantic Sea only because America was helping those suffering in France do to the Brit war with France. I think the American Navy defeated the queens navy....... Do any of you know about the war of 1812? Tell me more please, cant find much info about it on google
Not touching this one with a 10 foot pole. "in France DUE to the British war" by the way.
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This thread goes to show that it's easier to troll people by being genuinely stupid than it is by trying to make fun of people who appear to be stupid
:salute Madhogg
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This thread goes to show that it's easier to troll people by being genuinely stupid than it is by trying to make fun of people who appear to be stupid
:salute Madhogg
Suprised you haven't busted that gem out on me...wait...thats not a compliment is it?
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You try hard with some of your posts, but you are nowhere near Madhogg's level :) Sorry
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This thread goes to show that it's easier to troll people by being genuinely stupid than it is by trying to make fun of people who appear to be stupid
:salute Madhogg
Why soo angry ?? :noid i guess any one who disagreed with your banana ways gets called names by you.
:salute Cowbzy
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When did you disagree with me?
When did I post anything angry? I actually complimented you on your trolling ability, this is a pretty masterful thread
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This thread goes to show that it's easier to troll people by being genuinely stupid than it is by trying to make fun of people who appear to be stupid
:salute Madhogg
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This thread goes to show that it's easier to troll people by being genuinely stupid than it is by trying to make fun of people who appear to be stupid
:salute Madhogg
I tought you had to be angry in some way to call others stupid, but I guess I was wrong, it is second nature to you. You are just rude sir, have a nice day.
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The proof of the pudding is in the eating
And the truth of this thread is in the reading
God bless ;)
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The proof of the pudding is in the eating
And the truth of this thread is in the reading
God bless ;)
The truth was found. The US navy did defeat the Britt navy. I could get into it but you cant handle the truth. Your opinion can only be bias.
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:headscratch: Uhh what? My opinion is that I don't care about the war of 1812 and never even mentioned it.
I just posted because I noticed how effective your troll was. You got 10 pages :aok
A masterful technique, as I said, although sadly not one that I can emulate
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school is in session RB, madhogg is dropping some knowledge on the ignorant denizens of the AH O'Club
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:noid
That is just crazyyyy. No troll here. I wanted to learn more and I got some good input from the nonbias post of some. I still respect the bias opinions made by some but I was after the truth. And I said "Good day sir".(walked away from you)
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No troll here.
Funny, that's not what you said in the Top Gun forum :D
And I said "Good day sir".(walked away from you)
You did say that, which is why I was wondering why you replied again immediately after I wished you well on your way with a God bless
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All taken out of context.
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Is the context that you are mad as hell about something and thought creating a troll thread about the 1812 war would be a good way to upset me? :rofl omg too rich
honestly if i had known this was all for me i would have posted much earlier so you could be satisfied, and you wouldn't have embarrassed yourself with 10 pages of drivel
sorry bro
the entire premise behind this troll attempt is wrong anyway, just because you get frothing mad when someone puts down America doesn't mean i give a crap about the UK, i could join you in slagging it off if you want :)
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Have no idea what you are talking about :noid thats just crazy talk.. I think you gonne Mad mate.
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Funny, that's not what you said in the Top Gun forum :D
Huh, only people affiliated with the Few from the TG forum may be shida, Zack, and Dolby maybe. I highly doubt Shida or zack would get caught up in such drama.
hmm....
Thanks for the heads up we have spies from the Few coombz
:salute
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No way :rofl the few are spying on us! Paranoia at its finest. :aok
May I ask...what were you guys trying to find by doing this?
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No way :rofl the few are spying on us! Paranoia at its finest. :aok
:rofl
:noid :noid :noid :noid
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who from The Few have you given access to your forum? :headscratch: Everyone Redbull listed is an ex member just as the three of you are
Also i would venture to suggest it's not spying if you gave this person access, spying would involve some kind of underhand skullduggery :)
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who from The Few have you given access to your forum? :headscratch: Everyone Redbull listed is an ex member just as the three of you are
Also i would venture to suggest it's not spying if you gave this person access, spying would involve some kind of underhand skullduggery :)
To be fair, I am not an ex-few :angel:
Nearly, but not an ex-few :D
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Nothing to hide in there lol.
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May I ask...what were you guys trying to find by doing this?
Wasn't trying to find anything, someone just thought it was funny and sent it to me
There are lots of good guys in TG that i am on fine terms with, i had considered you the same Jo, don't buy into any spying nonsense or you'll end up like Bone
Remember when shida was a spy from The muppets? :D
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To be fair, I am not an ex-few :angel:
Nearly, but not an ex-few :D
To be fair, you are right there and i was wrong ;)
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Wasn't trying to find anything, someone just thought it was funny and sent it to me
There are lots of good guys in TG that i am on fine terms with, i had considered you the same Jo, don't buy into any spying nonsense or you'll end up like Bone
Remember when shida was a spy from The muppets? :D
icic, I don't recall shida being a spy...
But I do remember when yarbles and shida got into one time. :noid
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To be fair, you are right there and i was wrong ;)
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So who is this good friend of yours?? i want to congratulate him on his ablity to photoshop lies. Lol. That was very creative of you :rofl :noid
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It was such a blatant fabrication that your two squaddies immediately made 'omg! spies in our forum' posts...lol
what else was it you posted in there? (I couldn't fit it all into my sig)
"The way I see it whoever gets mad looses" [sic]
So by your own definition you became a loser the moment you got mad enough to make this thread :old: ;)
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:noid :noid :noid I'm out of here this is all a troll from you coombzy
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I am a Puritan and you are all sinners!
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Wow.
Simply stunning. Well more proof you should never go full retard.
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Boo hoo
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Huh, only people affiliated with the Few from the TG forum may be shida, Zack, and Dolby maybe. I highly doubt Shida or zack would get caught up in such drama.
Even with considerable effort to avoid you'd be surprised how much drama one can get caught up in.
Thanks for the heads up we have spies from the Few coombz
I advise against jumping to conclusions RB and also against running through that list of players looking for someone to persecute. You will have to trust me on this point.
Jo, same advice, don't be paranoid in the absence of information.
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Even with considerable effort to avoid you'd be surprised how much drama one can get caught up in.
I advise against jumping to conclusions RB and also against running through that list of players looking for someone to persecute. You will have to trust me on this point.
Jo, same advice, don't be paranoid in the absence of information.
Well shida, I can only assume of course, when coombz said that it was obvious someone was telling him about things in our pvt squad forum. More less curious whom it was, although I should not have thrown out names, I do apologize to those who's names I used.
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I can assure you there is no Few involvement in this episode. As far as I know the people you listed have NO remaining affiliation with The Few. Friendships remain naturally, as ours has.
It is a tricky ethical question, what is morally more objectionable: violating a privacy or protecting people of poor character who would rather lie and malign others to protect themselves than come clean?
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Well shida, I can only assume of course, when coombz said that it was obvious someone was telling him about things in our pvt squad forum.
:headscratch:
I thought madhogg said it was a complete fabrication
Are you calling your squaddie a liar? :noid
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:headscratch:
I thought madhogg said it was a complete fabrication
Are you calling your squaddie a liar? :noid
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Only 1 way to settle this BS......
GIF was coombz? :D :banana:
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:rofl
i have a load of good ones saved especially for you actually, but they are on my laptop
gimme 10 mins and i'll bring the danger :devil
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ok mate let us commence :salute
this is madhogg raging about the snitch in Top Gun forums
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Interesting that I just lost my access to the Top Gun forum.
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You wish to air that someone from the TG forums is giving you information about the squad even though we have nothing to hide and the fact you guys are still looking for information on our squad forums only tells me that you are Just what we have been calling you on for a good year now.
PARANOIA will be the death of you.
All those who was affiliated with TheFew have been removed from my forum besides Joachim ,RedBull, and spek.
NrShida,Zack don't take this the wrong way but I had to weed out the dirt ball who is starting drama once again.
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Really sad to see Bruv has let TheFew fall apart in such short time.
RedBull I need a GIF for this statement above. :bhead :bhead
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So once again despite my best efforts to mediate and keep the peace I find myself embroiled at the centre of yet another episode of 'days of our AH lives'. Fantastic.
DrBone, there is NO FEW INVOLVEMENT in this incident. I know all. Why don't you try trusting someone for a change.
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the fact you guys are still looking for information on our squad forums only tells me that you are Just what we have been calling you on for a good year now.
it was unsolicited information (www.dictionary.com)
i wasn't looking for it or asking for it :)
but I had to weed out the dirt ball who is starting drama once again.
seems like that is madhogg, by his own admission in your own forum :old:
gg
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I've got some things to get done this morning coombz, apologies, I will be on later this afternoon,
prepare your best GIF's! :old:
Afterall, I have to get to my day job!
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So once again despite my best efforts to mediate and keep the peace I find myself embroiled at the centre of yet another episode of 'days of our AH lives'. Fantastic.
DrBone, there is NO FEW INVOLVEMENT in this incident. I know all. Why don't you try trusting someone for a change.
Ohh but I do Shida only my trusted followers that have been with me for 3-4 years.
Not Saying I do not trust you but be honest you never really posted in our forum anyway so whats the issue.
Coombzy made it clear that this was a Few Involvement.
You really wish to defend the accuser even when the paranoia strikes?
Only shows me and the rest of this AH community what kinda dirt balls lurk in The Few.
Have a good day I am off to work. :bhead :bhead :bhead
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Wasn't trying to find anything, someone just thought it was funny and sent it to me
There are lots of good guys in TG that i am on fine terms with, i had considered you the same Jo, don't buy into any spying nonsense or you'll end up like Bone
Remember when shida was a spy from The muppets? :D
Just to clarify since you wish to bring Kazaa into this it was Kazaa who wanted me to pump sunsfan for information regarding nrshida which I did not do. ;)
and btw those good guys you say you are on good terms with is a complete lie so please try to Justify you're statements again its funny watching you're little emo self squirm. :rolleyes:
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eh? I didn't even mention Kazaa
good to see you are making as much sense and level headed as ever DrB :angel:
I think you are going to have to join madhogg + Fester on the 'the following people are mad' list :>
Really sad to see Bruv has let TheFew fall apart in such short time.
RedBull I need a GIF for this statement above. :bhead :bhead
here you go
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I have more important work that needs to be done rather than making you look even more ignorant than you're original posts in this thread have a good time trying to Justify yourself.
Sad little emo kids these days they never learn. :bhead :bhead
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you should have taken Sukov's earlier post to heart :neener:
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Boy did I miss out on the fun while I was out for breakfast. :confused:
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Boy did I miss out on the fun while I was out for breakfast. :confused:
Yeah you sure did.
Oh by the way because of your glowing endorsement I am trying tetley.
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So much win! Devil this is the next AH magazine thingy!! :)
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I posted on Topgun all the time, I know it was utter gibberish but I did :rofl
I understand Bone if someone has been naughty using info from Topgun :)
Shida and myself have not spoke to anyone about Topgun or your attraction to soft fruit products :)
I will continue to post nonsense on the oclub so no one needs to worry :old:
Are you still loud Bone? :rofl
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I posted on Topgun all the time, I know it was utter gibberish but I did :rofl
I understand Bone if someone has been naughty using info from Topgun :)
Shida and myself have not spoke to anyone about Topgun or your attraction to soft fruit products :)
I will continue to post nonsense on the oclub so no one needs to worry :old:
Are you still loud Bone? :rofl
I know you would'nt and for the sake of putting this drama behind my squad I have removed all those who were previously with TheFew with the exception of my Boys.
The Fact that after all the smack they talk and they still believe some of my squad are on good terms with them is a complete joke and if they were on good terms I am sure that they would not cause all this drama.
They speak of paranoia but yet look who is starting all this drama over 1 thread. They must think they are that important that me an mine talk about them all the time.
Get a grip on reality Fewbs the AH world does not revolve around you're squad any more.
Madhogg has been trolling this thread since he posted it and for those of you that put the hook in you're mouth well you are all morons. :aok
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I know you would'nt and for the sake of putting this drama behind my squad I have removed all those who were previously with TheFew with the exception of my Boys.
The Fact that after all the smack they talk and they still believe some of my squad are on good terms with them is a complete joke and if they were on good terms I am sure that they would not cause all this drama.
They speak of paranoia but yet look who is starting all this drama over 1 thread. They must think they are that important that me an mine talk about them all the time.
Get a grip on reality Fewbs the AH world does not revolve around you're squad any more.
Madhogg has been trolling this thread since he posted it and for those of you that put the hook in you're mouth well you are all morons. :aok
Man, your grammar and spelling are much improved. Also that rhymed. :lol
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I'm actually rather irritated that you think I am affiliated with TheFew and have removed my forum access.
I have not been in correspondence with them as a group since I left TheFew over a year and a half ago.
You're irrational, paranoid and delusional to even think that TheFew is behind your forum leakage. In all honesty I still find it utterly amazing that anyone would ever take any of your neuroses seriously and I am still absolutely comic that you have even managed to persuade relatively intelligent and rational people to believe in your unsound claim that Midway is a Few shade. Even after I mentioned more than once that Midway and his daughter or niece have American accents and existed in the game long before his obsession for Bruv... But that's off topic; I can only assume that you are just trying to divert attention away from TopGun after Madhogg and his deplorable behaviour in this thread and it's origins, because there is no other reason to point fingers at TheFew... Unless your clinically insane?
they [TheFew] still believe some of my squad are on good terms with them is a complete joke
You need to stop talking for your squad and putting words in their mouths.
Personal relationships between squads/people exist and develop outside of your own and are independant of your (ir)rationale.
It is a complete joke for you to think that all your squad members conform to share your disposition toward TheFew.. Egotistical even.
Get a grip on reality
Take your own advise, you are your own worst enemy.
Your drama "dirtball" is named Madhogg and his OP by the way.
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Oh by the way because of your glowing endorsement I am trying tetley.
:aok
Don't drink laydees teas like Ruah :old:
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How you came up with the massive wall of text I will never know.
Carry on Dolby. :bhead
EDIT: Are you still raging about last night when I had to put you in you're place?
If this is not the case then what kept you back all this time from saying you're peace of mind?
You of all ppl to bring midway into this situation where I never once brought him up so please continue to make yourself look stupid dolby. :aok
I almost forgot that you were the very first that left TheFew and continue to talk smack about them it's funny how you try and defend them while talking about them behind closed door.
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How you came up with the massive wall of text I will never know.
Carry on Dolby. :bhead
Just read it, especially the 2nd to last line before you go and post again.
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I have no need to read the wall of text.
I already know why you posted what you did and don't expect anything from me buddy especially after you're little temper tantrum last night.
Grow up for once Dolby It is just a game.
Carry On. :bhead
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fight fight fight fight fight! :banana:
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I like how Bone constantly reminds people not to make themselves look stupid when they post :old: thanks dude you are a very helpful and kind fellow
it's like a "do as i say, not as i do" kinda thing i guess
The Fact that after all the smack they talk...
They speak of paranoia but yet look who is starting all this drama over 1 thread. They must think they are that important that me an mine talk about them all the time.
Get a grip on reality Fewbs the AH world does not revolve around you're squad anymore
Madhogg has been trolling this thread since he posted it and for those of you that put the hook in you're mouth well you are all morons. :aok
Who has been talking smack about any squad, other than you? No one :)
Who is being paranoid and starting drama here, other than the guy freaking out over spies and removing random people from his forum? :)
Who from The Few are you talking to I wonder, since I am the only one posting in this thread, I am the only one that made madhogg cry 96 tears, and I am the only one who was PM'd with a funny quote from your squad forum? :)
Who said madhogg was obviously trolling 4 pages ago? :)
talk about a meltdown
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Speaking of The Few did I see Pandora had joined not to long ago? How's that working out with your cutise pet name for her?
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I considered PMing you this Bone, but what the heck, it's your dirty laundry.
I'll have to take this point by point because it's the only way to respond to your comments rationally.
Are you still raging about last night when I had to put you in you're place?
If this is not the case then what kept you back all this time from saying you're peace of mind?
You annoyed me yes, because you had no place and no right getting in on country channel knowing I wouldn't say anything back to you publically. I told you infront of 2 others on ventrillo I was annoyed, I was far from raging - our exchange lasted under 30 seconds, I didn't even lay into you then. I am outraged that you're so narrowminded you think that that is the sole reason.
I held my tongue with you in the past for good reason while I considered you a friend, but your paranoia. hypocrasy and this, (what I find tastelessly egotistical;) new found rediculous almost religion of DrBone, (it was the "followers" and the "good terms" comments that did it), is getting out of control, so out of control it's rubbed off on others, this thread is just more evidence of that. I am personally growing weary of it, it's a reason I have stepped back from flying with you guys, you even fabricated months ago to all in your squad that I had some kind of tantrum when I wanted some space from the BS. Your PMs ingame made me question why I was keeping company such as yourself. You could say your fabrication of Few involvement here is the straw that broke the camel's back. I had even posted in your forum that there was no Few involvement.
You of all ppl to bring midway into this situation where I never once brought him up so please continue to make yourself look stupid dolby.
It is an accuracy that adds as evidence to my statements of accusastion.
It would be impossible to look stupid in such company as yourself and Madhogg, with such blind stupidity on display.
I almost forgot that you were the very first that left TheFew and continue to talk smack about them it's funny how you try and defend them while talking about them behind closed door.
They read 200, they know exactly where I stand so there is no door to chat behind. I can't think I have said anything that hasn't ended up on 200 for even Bruv to read.
I have to defend them here in this thread because your completely incorrect in their squad's involvment; Yet more evidence of paranoid delusion.
I have no need to read the wall of text.
I already know why you posted what you did and don't expect anything from me buddy especially after you're little temper tantrum last night.
Is that a fabrication or just an oversight of details?; Last night I wasn't even on AcesHigh to have a 'temper tantrum'; Hearts of Iron III's latest addon came out and I spent all night on it.
However, if you mean 2 nights ago, this isn't about your public outburst with me at that time.
You should look closer to home and the company you keep, such company that produces a thread such as this and eventually embroils more and more people into your delusions and drama.
You used the term dirtball I believe, I expect Madhogg is no longer on your private forum? no?
Grow up for once Dolby It is just a game.
What is happening here is not a game, you have a number of serious character flaws. I congradulate you on bringing the attention mildly away from Madhogg and onto yourself.
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I don't want to get into a fight with two squads at the same time Nathan :D
I will just say that I have enjoyed flying with Pandora several times and that she has said she enjoys flying with us, so to answer your question I guess it's going well
To be honest i don't get many chances to fire up AH these days :/
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I don't want to get into a fight with two squads at the same time Nathan :D
I will just say that I have enjoyed flying with Pandora several times and that she has said she enjoys flying with us, so to answer your question I guess it's going well
To be honest i don't get many chances to fire up AH these days :/
so another person making up for not playing, by trolling the forums? Yeah I did that for awhile.
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The Few has a lot to answer for. :old:
Its shocking really :old:
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I agree zack it is shocking :old: Bruv is to blame apparently
so another person making up for not playing, by trolling the forums? Yeah I did that for awhile.
My forum habits remain about the same whether I am flying a lot or a little I think
It is my work habits that have a greater bearing on my output of posts :)
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When Coombzy posted that modify piece of text he let the world know that the fewbs manage to infiltrate Top Gun forum. You cant deny the evidence. I found more interesting that Coombzy reveal the inner workings of his squad. Maybe Coombzy is the only spy, who knows? All I know is that cowbzy still wears a fewb patch so his squad must be OK with his spy deeds.
Dolby you are just angry. Calm down. Every one who flys around you knows how you rage like an angry 12 year old girl.
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It is my work habits that have a greater bearing on my output of posts :)
Yeah you and me both :devil although it is way more effective to troll by saying such and such deserves death. You will almost be guaranteed to catch a painted swordfish.
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When Coombzy posted that modify piece of text he let the world know that the fewbs manage to infiltrate Top Gun forum. You cant deny the evidence.
Didn't you try to deny the evidence and claim that it was photoshopped? Doesn't that make you a liar?
Despite your paranoia no one infiltrated Top Gun :ahand someone just thought your rage post was funny and sent it to me
I found more interesting that Coombzy reveal the inner workings of his squad. Maybe Coombzy is the only spy, who knows? All I know is that cowbzy still wears a fewb patch so his squad must be OK with his spy deeds.
I doubt anyone else in the squad even knows or gives a crap about this ridiculous thread
It certainly hasn't generated a great big thread of paranoia and personal attacks like on your forum :D
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Didn't you try to deny the evidence and claim that it was photoshopped? Doesn't that make you a liar?
Despite your paranoia no one infiltrated Top Gun :ahand someone just thought your rage post was funny and sent it to me
I doubt anyone else in the squad even knows or gives a crap about this ridiculous thread It certainly hasn't generated a great big thread of paranoia and personal attacks like on your forum :D
I'm sure the Few's squad troll shade account will be along shortly, When? WHO knows when.
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It was photoshop but some of that is real that is how we know Coombzy the spy is up to no good.
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Coombzy you are saying that your daddy dont know?? You better tell your squadies that you been caught spying, I think they would like to know one of their members is a filthy spy. Coombzy: aka (wikileaks). or (shade spy).
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Hearts of Iron III's latest addon came out and I spent all night on it.
So how is the add-on? I'm debating picking it up now or just waiting a few months for a price drop.
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Madhogg, you are a liar, the text was not edited, it was posted verbatim. I saw it on the Top Gun Forum.
DrBone, stop yourself or I will stop you. Consider this offer as a gesture of understanding but do not mistake kindness for weakness.
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DrBone, stop yourself or I will stop you. Consider this offer as a gesture of understanding but do not mistake kindness for weakness.
OH snap! (damn duck and cover gif not working )
Of course the Brits are gonna stick together and try to weather this storm.
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Wikileaks :rofl I am proud to be compared to someone who exposes lies, misdirection and empty rhetoric, and I agree madhogg it is an apt comparison as that is exactly what i did in this thread :salute
I am an enemy of the state :old:
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Wikileaks :rofl I am proud to be compared to someone who espouses lies, misdirection and empty rhetoric, and I agree madhogg it is an apt comparison as that is exactly what i did in this thread :salute
I am an enemy of the state :old:
Fixed.
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OH snap! (damn duck and cover gif not working )
Of course the Brits are gonna stick together and try to weather this storm.
You think the Brits are in the storm?
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You think the Brits are in the storm?
Yep your defending (a) spy(ies) that got busted, wonder when the Fews troll shade account will show up.
EDIT: Dont get all pissy with me mr. I'm just calling it as I seen it.
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Fixed.
hehe, if Assange was publishing lies I can't imagine why the US would be trying to hunt him down for supposedly providing classified information to terrorists. if it's lies, why do the govt care so much?
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/us-calls-assange-enemy-of-state-20120927-26m7s.html
there are plenty of nutjobs out there telling lies and making conspiracy theories about various governments, but they don't all get declared enemies of the state do they? :)
the amount of attention the US deems Assange worthy of basically proves that everything he publishes is true and hurts them because it is true
it's kind of like how if the quote I posted from the Top Gun forum was a lie as madhogg claimed, then his squaddies wouldn't have freaked out about it :old:
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wonder when the Fews troll shade account will show up.
zack has already posted :old:
(I know what you really meant, but honestly, do you seriously want to put yourself at the same end of the intellectual scale as DrBone?)
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zack has already posted :old:
(I know what you really meant, but honestly, do you really want to put yourself at the same end of the intellectual scale as DrBone?)
Hell someones got to offset that obviously overclocked bean of yours
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hehe, if Assange was publishing lies I can't imagine why the US would be trying to hunt him down for supposedly providing classified information to terrorists. if it's lies, why do the govt care so much?
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/us-calls-assange-enemy-of-state-20120927-26m7s.html
there are plenty of nutjobs out there telling lies and making conspiracy theories about various governments, but they don't all get declared enemies of the state do they? :)
the amount of attention the US deems Assange worthy of basically proves that everything he publishes is true and hurts them because it is true
it's kind of like how if the quote I posted from the Top Gun forum was a lie as madhogg claimed, then his squaddies wouldn't have freaked out about it :old:
Becaus elies are told all the time in war, its all one huge misdirection ploy, trust me
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Shida are you the traitor spy?... Coombzy is just a spy. You, you are just a traitor, a snitch, a backstabber, punk.etc... Yea cumbzy the main point of this is that you are a spy and your contact is just a punk backstabber.
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Hell someones got to offset that obviously overclocked bean of yours
that's the nicest thing you've ever said to me <3 even if it's not really true ;)
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that's the nicest thing you've ever said to me <3 even if it's not really true ;)
yeah I decided its opposite day while I sit here minding my minions.
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Shida are you the traitor spy?... Coombzy is just a spy. You, you are just a traitor, a snitch, a backstabber, punk.etc... Yea cumbzy the main point of this is that you are a spy and your contact is just a punk backstabber.
you are so angry it's making you extra dumb
if I was a spy then I wouldn't need a snitch would I? :D
my 'contact' as you call it just thought your angry post was funny, and they were right. you got so mad about my posts in the O'Club that you made this whole thread and posted 10 pages of rage
not to mention all the spazzing out in your squad forum that is still going on :rofl
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so another person making up for not playing, by trolling the forums? Yeah I did that for awhile.
:)
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how can I be a spy and there also be a snitch? you are so angry it's making you extra dumb
if I was a spy then I wouldn't need a snitch would I? :D
my 'contact' as you call it just thought your angry post was funny, and they were right. you got so mad about my posts in the O'Club that you made this whole thread and posted 10 pages of rage
You snithched by outting yourself brae.
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how can I be a spy and there also be a snitch? you are so angry it's making you extra dumb
if I was a spy then I wouldn't need a snitch would I? :D
my 'contact' as you call it just thought your angry post was funny, and they were right. you got so mad about my posts in the O'Club that you made this whole thread and posted 10 pages of rage
You I only called a spy... Your friend shida is the snitch, traitor. ...you are a SPY .. You spy on the Top Gun forums when you are a member of the fewb
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You snithched by outting yourself brae.
That is pretty much the case :) I supplied the quote I was sent straight away, without trying to hide the fact that I had information from the TG forum, and used it to expose madhogg for a liar
So really, your earlier post is kinda incorrect - no spies got busted, unless it was by me :devil
You I only called a spy... Your friend shida is the snitch, traitor. ...you are a SPY .. You spy on the Top Gun forums when you are a member of the fewb
mraaaaaah!!!! epic nerd rage bro
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Like I said before I will continue to stand by while they make themselves look Ignorant.
I was done with this thread after my last post.
Dolby you are just angry. Calm down. Every one who flys around you knows how you rage like an angry 12 year old girl.
:lol We all knew Dolby would be coming to the forums to do just this even myself ,joachim and RedBull heard his rage the other night boy you should have heard him.
Joachim couldn't hit the record button fast enough or else I would have a nice recording for ya on the TG Forums.
I will only take you're posting serious when you can handle speaking to me as an adult and not some cry baby.
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You snithched by outting yourself brae.
I appreciate the effort brother but coombzy has reached a level of Ignorance no other can compare.
It is best to leave these twits to do what they do best.
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You think the Brits are in the storm?
What a moron you are... Only thing that matters is that The Fewbs member Cumbzy is a SPY. Only thing happening here is that Cumbzy( Spy of the Few) was busted Spying. Yes Cumbzy had infiltrated Top Gun forums with the aid of a backstabber traitor. Quit changing conversation Cowbzy. You are a spy. Im done with this thread. Time for Cumbzy to burry the truth with a landslide of nonsence. Cowbzy is Spy and im out.
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That makes it the second time they have had someone from our squad send info to them that is supposedly about TheFew/or Members of TheFew.
Now who is paranoid! :rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
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Madhogg, you are a liar, the text was not edited, it was posted verbatim. I saw it on the Top Gun Forum.
DrBone, stop yourself or I will stop you. Consider this offer as a gesture of understanding but do not mistake kindness for weakness.
If you wish to bring yourself into this by all means step right up shida. :cool:
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Shida are you the traitor spy?... Coombzy is just a spy. You, you are just a traitor, a snitch, a backstabber, punk.etc... Yea cumbzy the main point of this is that you are a spy and your contact is just a punk backstabber.
Leave Shida and zack out of it hogg. If there is a 'spy' Ill put my name on the line and say it was not them.
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What a moron you are... Only thing that matters is that The Fewbs member Cumbzy is a SPY. Only thing happening here is that Cumbzy( Spy of the Few) was busted Spying. Yes Cumbzy had infiltrated Top Gun forums with the aid of a backstabber traitor. Quit changing conversation Cowbzy. You are a spy. Im done with this thread. Time for Cumbzy to burry the truth with a landslide of nonsence. Cowbzy is Spy and im out.
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Leave Shida and zack out of it hogg. If there is a 'spy' Ill put my name on the line and say it was not them.
:salute
First off Red coombzy brought Shida into the mix by saying that I called him a spy.
Get the facts before standing up for someone you barely know.
Vent.
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First off Red coombzy brought Shida into the mix by saying that I called him a spy.
Get the facts before standing up for someone you barely know.
I have some facts Bone. I know shida quite well, been fighting with, against, and talking to him since before I joined TG
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I have lost the thread again :cry
Whats been said? :cry
I am not a spy and Shida is not a spy, well I don't think he is a spy, then again I might have mentioned that DrBone like soft fruit products, is that spying? :old:
That Bruv chap is to blame, that Dumpgate has come back with a vengeance :old:
I love you Redbull, only in a manly way :old:
To think of it that Pipz was hanging around Top-gun forum the other day, its Pipz he is the bounder who has spilled the beans on the matter, what ever the matter is :old:
What is the Spying that has been done?
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Apparently I am a spy zack :old:
It's hard to work out the rest, Bone is having another meltdown
I'm sure it's really serious stuff though, so we'll have none of your usual gibberish!
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Yep your defending (a) spy(ies) that got busted, wonder when the Fews troll shade account will show up.
Neg. There was no spying, try to keep up with facts as they emerge Nathan, this'll go a lot faster.
Shida are you the traitor spy?... Coombzy is just a spy. You, you are just a traitor, a snitch, a backstabber, punk.etc... Yea cumbzy the main point of this is that you are a spy and your contact is just a punk backstabber.
You have no foundation from which to insult me because you are a proven liar and have no credibility. You're only angry and lashing out because I nailed you, further proving your guilt and character. :ahand
You I only called a spy... Your friend shida is the snitch, traitor. ...you are a SPY .. You spy on the Top Gun forums when you are a member of the fewb
You also accused Dolby of being the spy, and also Redbull too. You're lack of intelligence is only matched by your lack of integrity and honour. Funny, since I thought your culture, of which you are so proud, valued that.
What a moron you are... Only thing that matters is that The Fewbs member Cumbzy is a SPY. Only thing happening here is that Cumbzy( Spy of the Few) was busted Spying. Yes Cumbzy had infiltrated Top Gun forums with the aid of a backstabber traitor. Quit changing conversation Cowbzy. You are a spy. Im done with this thread. Time for Cumbzy to burry the truth with a landslide of nonsence. Cowbzy is Spy and im out.
No a moron is a person in the lowest classification of intelligence bordering on mental retardation. You will find me to be something quite different, if you want to engage with me in a battle of wits. Dummy.
Yes, you people do tend to fade away when the situation degrades away from favour, shouting that you won as you skulk away. No, what matters here is that you lied, got caught and started insulting. You're basically done here. Ta ta now.
If you wish to bring yourself into this by all means step right up shida. :cool:
Oh do you think I'm afraid of you DrBone?
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You really took that in a threatening way?
You have changed a lot shida.
:bhead
What happen to talking things out like Adults?
Whats with resorting to these comments you throw at me?
You're last post about stopping me was taken as an insult and will continue to be taken that way.
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You really took that in a threatening way?
You have changed a lot shida.
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No I have been remarkable consistent. Three times I extended the hand of friendship to you and have on many occasions tried to help you with your personal problems. You go too far Bone, making other people pay the price for your problems.
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My personal problems?
The most going on in my life is 60-70 hours a week working what are these problems you speak of?
Don't forget I just returned to the game last week. :headscratch:
If you were referring to something in my past what has that got to do with the subject at hand?
Forgive my short term Memory I just quit smoking 2 months ago and it still has that effect on me.
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Where does Dummy fall in the hierarchy of knowledge and enlightenment?
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Where does Dummy fall in the hierarchy of knowledge and enlightenment?
well, D is for democrat ;)
I'll leave you to work out what the R in republican can also refer to
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My personal problems?
The most going on in my life is 60-70 hours a week working what are these problems you speak of?
Don't forget I just returned to the game last week. :headscratch:
If you were referring to something in my past what has that got to do with the subject at hand?
Forgive my short term Memory I just quit smoking 2 months ago and it still has that effect on me.
Come on Bone, either you're are ******* with me here or in complete denial.
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They have those in NZ? Is that why your an expert on the subject? Don't pull this awesome thread down with politico talk
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Pull this thread down :lol I like your sense of humour =D
As the Wikileaks of Aces High it is actually my job to try to bring down everything awesome
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Pull this thread down :lol I like your sense of humor =D
Fixed. I do appreciate your colour commentary tho
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There's a limited amount of time I'll allow you to confer with your minions.
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So how is the add-on? I'm debating picking it up now or just waiting a few months for a price drop.
Still 'buggy' but just as much fun. Best wait for a price drop.
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Fixed. I do appreciate your colour commentary tho
I c wot u did ther
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Again with the smart remarks is that all you have to offer shida really?
I honestly am lost with what you are talking about but hey Good Job taking the focus off of this pathetic dispute.
I am done trying to Understand 2 sides of ppl have a good day Shida.
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There's a limited amount of time I'll allow you to confer with your minions.
Hey thats my word, I'll allow you the use of 'underlings'.
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shida I thought you were done trying to talk some sense into him?
well said dolby.
Thanks for the funny thread :aok
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shida I thought you were done trying to talk some sense into him?
well said dolby.
Thanks for the funny thread :aok
when are you gonna jump on the midway account and put his 2 cents in?
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when are you gonna jump on the midway account and put his 2 cents in?
:rolleyes:
If you ever have the opportunity to let some random noob join your plane asking "How is it done?" I suggest you politely decline.
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:rolleyes:
If you ever have the opportunity to let some random noob join your plane asking "How is it done?" I suggest you politely decline.
Why? are you gonna ask to join then fiddle with my plane's weight characteristics?
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Again with the smart remarks is that all you have to offer shida really?
I honestly am lost with what you are talking about but hey Good Job taking the focus off of this pathetic dispute.
I am done trying to Understand 2 sides of ppl have a good day Shida.
Er no, I have much more.
What I'm talking about DrBone is how you use Aces High, the Aces High Forum and most objectionably the other Aces High players as a toilet to flush your clinical paranoia down.
In the last year since you got booted out of The Few, you've waged a consistant hate campaign against Bruv and all the members of The Few. Often employing sympathetic lieutenants stealthily to do the actual leg work for you. Your spite seems to stem from the fact that you got booted, which you cannot understand or resolve internally.
The underlying problem is your certainty that you are being singled out and persecuted. This is because you are unable to process other people's actions into any other shape but black and white: 'they are either with you or against you'. You cannot process someone being indifferent to you, or liking you but objecting to a set of your behaviour, for instance.
Ironically when you were with The Few it was The Muppets who were persecuting you and again you sent out lieutenants, in the rather shameful form of the young Joach1m and DrSpek (who were too immature to understand their actions, at the time), to stir things up for you. The extent to which your uncle instigated this is unclear but he clearly encouraged you.
At this point in the Aces High chronicles The Few's reputation is dragged to an all time low. Possibly unrecoverable. Scandals in competitions, BaldEagle's duelling bracket, the SDL all of it, and behind all of the trouble: you, aggravating people, smack talking, slapping people on the back of the head and when they turned around innocently pointing at someone else. A plethora of manipulative or viscous PMs, deviousness at it's most developed.
This culminated in the disgraceful and shameful remarks towards one of The Muppet's family members on a memorable YouTube video, the comments quickly pulled down when it became public. When Bruv still wouldn't boot you, several British players left The Few in protest. Hence the birth of The GFC.
Cue the insinuations that I was a Muppet spy and that Zack and Yarbles were spies from Plus Precision. Kazaa did NOT bade you to pump Sunsfan for confirmation that I was a Muppet spy, but to convince you by contradiction that it was an absurd idea. Again this escapes you because you filter information to confirm your deluded ideas about human interaction.
As a matter of record my only association with The Muppets is that it contains several close friends of mine and some people who I respect and that at one time I tried out for the squad, unsuccessfully I might add. Grizz could confirm this, assuming he would be inclined to do so.
When UncleBone berated MickyD for sticking up for those of us that left, the usual 'with us or against us' BS ensued, it became clear to Bruv just how much UncleBone had been involved and how much you had (both) used The Few as a vehicle for your own agenda. MickyD leaving The Few was the last straw for Bruv, you were booted, and told to take young Joach1m with you, DrSpek being inactive at the time. The consequence for MickyD for his 'disloyalty' to you? Sustained hate campaign, as usual. Slander, derision, insult.
What I find especially ironic about your new found disdain for Bruv and The Few is that Bruv and more especially Kazaa trained you, without them teaching advanced ACM you were a mediocre player of Aces High at best and did nothing remarkable for the first eight years you played. You successfully conned them into thinking you were a talented newcomer and securing training when Kazaa wanted to increase the competition level in the game. I believe some players even know the callsigns you flew under, and shade vulched under.
Then there's the Midway nonsense, again the insinuation that he is somehow affiliated with The Few, or an agent of The Few. This isn't logical to even the most basic rational mind.
The fact is DrBone if you don't have this kind of environment of supporters and haters in which to thrive, you will engineer one. You can also trace the periods you fade in and out of the game to coincide with how commodious the environment is to your needs. When Batfink cleverly posted your spiteful PMs in GD you were away for a good long while.
Then there's this episode, about which I am privileged, or cursed rather, to once again know all about (and you do not). Coombzy, one member of The Few posts a snippet of information from the Top Gun forum, pertinent to this thread and sent to him unsolicited by a friend. A paranoid party of lunkhead proportions ensues. 'They' are out to get you, 'they' are spying on you. 'They', what 'they? The Few don't give a rats arse about you, you just aren't important enough. Nor are you in the wider AH community. You are an excellent stick (and I've posted the appropriate credit for that earlier in this post) but is your reputation in this community commensurate to your level of play? Your reputation: toilet. Pure and simply toilet.
Even some of your own squadmates privately disown you.
What Dolby posted was essentially true, you are paranoid and delusional and I fail to see why any of us should pay the cost for you any longer.
Is that adult enough for you?
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Why? are you gonna ask to join then fiddle with my plane's weight characteristics?
Sigh, another one who cannot fathom how anyone can be better than them.
Wurz
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What? I don't like popcorn.
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Nice wall of text.
Clearly you have lost all touch with reality and take this game way too seriously.
btw I was never booted I left before the squad could drag me down with it.
You guys left because you didnt get you're way hence the childish behaviour you have shown here.
By all means carry on with the walls of text I will not bother reading them because it is nothing but gibberish.
Lets see another wall of worthless text that will only explain how low you will go in a game to Justify what they did to Joachim, and Spek.
Just one more thing I would like to say, The only paranoid twits around are yourself with these out of world accusations and coombzy.
Like I said before our world does not revolve around you or any other squad.
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Sigh, another one who cannot fathom how anyone can be better than them.
Wurz
What? Like it's so simple to figure out how someone could possibly ever beat me. Ok smarty you tell me why it keeps happening.
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Probably the same way they keep beating me - THEY ARE BETTER THAN YOU (OR ME)!!!
:neener:
Wurz
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What? I don't like popcorn.
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I laughed.
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I believe some players even know the callsigns you flew under, and shade vulched under.
You do know I can have you banned/kicked from the BBS for such accusations?
Just ask around many have realized that already.
Reported.
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while searching for that I found something else that I hadn't seen before, made me lol
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Nice wall of text.
Clearly you have lost all touch with reality and take this game way too seriously.
btw I was never booted I left before the squad could drag me down with it.
You guys left because you didnt get you're way hence the childish behaviour you have shown here.
By all means carry on with the walls of text I will not bother reading them because it is nothing but gibberish.
Lets see another wall of worthless text that will only explain how low you will go in a game to Justify what they did to Joachim, and Spek.
Just one more thing I would like to say, The only paranoid twits around are yourself with these out of world accusations and coombzy.
Like I said before our world does not revolve around you or any other squad.
There was much to say.
No, I have this game precisely at the appropriate level of seriousness.
Again no, you were booted.
We left because we did not want to be associated with you or your actions any longer.
Everything I have said can be supported and substantiated.
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Battle Royal was a great Book, the movie is actually on my on demand at the moment don't know if it would do the book justice tho so I havent watched it.
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I believe some players even know the callsigns you flew under, and shade vulched under.
You do know I can have you banned/kicked from the BBS for such accusations?
Just ask around many have realized that already.
Reported.
Good luck with that, that's one way to shut me up. Wonder why you are so motivated all of a sudden.
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Coombzy did the hospital ever give you your eel back?
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I got it back and returned it to The Hitcher
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« Sent to: DrBone1 on: September 13, 2011, 12:09:34 PM »
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Bone,
First of all I'd like to thank you for flying with my squadron The Few. The main reason why I stood by you against these GFC guys was because of your loyalty and service to the squadron.
Now Uncle Bone has obviously put all this stuff out there that Many will not agree with and in doing so has validated all of the claims laid out by them. I can't tolerate open aggression towards other members of the squad.
You are a big enough personality to be your own leader and rather have me or anyone else try to reign you in, I think it will be best if you take your boys (jo and Spek) and uncle Bone and make your own squadron where you can do as you please. Don't insult me by joining the Muppets or some watermelon like that because you are better than they are!
I won't hold anything against you and it is unfortunate that this has to end this way. But I will let you do the honours rather than kick you.
Here is you're proof.
We chose to leave I myself had the choice to stay and let My uncle ,spek and Joachim leave.
I chose my boys.
Need more pm's?
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Good luck with that, that's one way to shut me up. Wonder why you are so motivated all of a sudden.
You like 2 others were in violation of rules put in place by Skuzzy don't follow those rules then you pay the price.
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O_O
Can someone hold me? :cry
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O_O
Can someone hold me? :cry
Alfa's got some big manly arms to hold you.
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Everyone here, needs to:
A. Act their age.
B. Cease this endless mudslinging.
C. Calm, the hell, down.
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D. All the above?
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Tactful way to boot people Bruv, I may have to borrow that one day.
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Tactful way to boot people Bruv, I may have to borrow that one day.
Or you could just cry like a little baby because someone didn't clear you're six and boot them that way.
Worked well enough! :aok
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Give me one good reason why you guys didn't do this gay drama queen act of yours in private? Huh? I don't blame Skuzzy for leaving; I really don't!
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Or you could just cry like a little baby because someone didn't clear you're six and boot them that way.
Worked well enough! :aok
If I was paranoid and delusional I might have had that same trail of thought.
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:salute
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Skuzzy didnt leave its all hands on deck for the uber update that brings Subs, Ship convoys, FPS elements, a expanded starts system with destructable bridges and many ground convoys, train depots, ammo dumps, strafeable planes at airfields, and sheep.
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Sheep would be nice... however I think he's just busy at the moment. Could be he's tempering his ban hammer for some major blows...
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Sheep would be nice... however I think he's just busy at the moment. Could be he's tempering his ban hammer for some major blows...
wonder if he will let ya change your sigline first.
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Hey, I've mellowed.
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Or you could just cry like a little baby because someone didn't clear you're six and boot them that way.
Worked well enough! :aok
Considering the fact you left TG for that very same reason you have made yourself look that much more ignorant.
Carry on Dolby. :rofl :aok
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Considering the fact you left TG for that very same reason you have made yourself look that much more ignorant.
Carry on Dolby. :rofl :aok
I did? :huh
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Everyone here, needs to:
A. Act their age.
B. Cease this endless mudslinging.
C. Calm, the hell, down.
Pies!
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Give me one good reason why you guys didn't do this gay drama queen act of yours in private? Huh? I don't blame Skuzzy for leaving; I really don't!
Hi GS hows your bunker?
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Of all the points I raised, the only one you chose to engage was the issue of whether you were booted or resigned? :rolleyes:
"But I will let you do the honours rather than kick you". - Bruv119
Yes you sure showed him didn't you Bone, you positively left when you were good and ready didn't you? Come on, he handed you the pistol with one bullet in it.
I chose my boys.
Well of course you did, someone with an agenda like yours must value loyalty above everything else, such as integrity for example. In the same way you immediately closed ranks and booted people off your Top Gun server to protect Madhogg and his LYING. Unquestioning loyalty is the first step to divide the world into haters and supporters. The fact is you let those young boys take the heat for your detestable behaviour, they'd have done practically anything for you because they were mesmerised with you, so beating your chest and screaming loyalty doesn't really enhance your character now does it. They should've stayed and you should have been booted out on your ear.
Now that they've matured and learned what you are all about, do you think they'd do it again?
Need more pm's?
Ooooh selected PMs from the huge DrBone collection scary! A classic DrBone veiled threat. Post all the PMs you want, I'd be enthralled to read through the lines with what I know about you now. I have PMs too, perhaps we could swap.
You like 2 others were in violation of rules put in place by Skuzzy don't follow those rules then you pay the price.
Was I? Well that would be for Skuzzy to deliberate over and not you, because outside of your mind we are in fact all equal here, you me and Dolby for instance (remember, the one you tried to put in his place).
What you will never understand DrBone, is that some ethical issues are worth fighting and sacrificing for. If the price I pay for outing your actions publicly, queering the Aces High pitch for you now and in the future so everyone knows what you're about, your agenda and actions, is that I get banned from this BBS, then it's a price I will happily pay.
The side effect for you of course is that you failed to follow the rules of common decency, mutual respect and civil behaviour, now you pay the price. I warned you.
Considering the fact you left TG for that very same reason you have made yourself look that much more ignorant.
Carry on Dolby. :rofl :aok
No he didn't make himself look ignorant, Dolby stood up to you, a confirmed internet bully, and called it how he saw it despite the consequences. Dolby made himself look like an honourable person. You, in response, tried to slander him. And trying to depict Dolby as a tantrum throwing child by the way, would have more effect if you weren't the ultimate prima donna yourself. Hypocrite.
Your arse has truly been spanked like the naughty boy you are. Now run along now DrBone, shouting that it's 'only a game' and how you won anyway over your shoulder as you skulk away. Pray that Skuzzy does ban me, or I get bored with you before I go further and explain my theories about why you are the way you are.
Give me one good reason why you guys didn't do this gay drama queen act of yours in private? Huh? I don't blame Skuzzy for leaving; I really don't!
Okay. The reason is that DrBone cannot operate his BS paranoiac Mafia in Aces High if everyone knows what he's doing. I apologise for all the dirty laundry, but this has been a long time coming, but I feel sure many found it entertaining anyway. As I mentioned to a friend of mine recently, it has become increasingly apparent what a godsend Aces High is to those with personality problems. I'd far rather play and interact with only the mature and sensible ones, but it only takes one turd to ruin the pool for everyone.
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I am not a Turd :old:
I demand a apology :old:
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I am not a Turd :old:
I demand a apology :old:
I'm sorry :cry
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I'm sorry :cry
I am Shidas lapdog, woof woof :old:
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As a Top Gun Member. And one of the first people you met in this game Nrshida. I will level with you.
Yes, Bone, has a nature for both ego tripping and using his influence over players in this game to further his agenda. As a squadron leader and a former wing leader in the highest rated squadron in AH2. And a leading member in terms of both skill level, and in the Aces High Player community. It is inevitable that Bone would have an agenda on what he wants to happen in both his squad and his affiliates.
With talent and skill, comes ego, as Bone commands some of the best prowess in the air in this game it is natural that he should have a head to match. Which is obvious he does. With this head comes pride, pride in both himself and his skills, pride in his squadron, of which I am a member, and loathing for those who get on his bad side, e.g: yourself and the Few. He is prone to emotional outbursts, and cannot control his reactions on occasion. Tending to exaggerate situations rather than simplify.
Bone himself admits to this. He does have an excessive ego, and he , to quote directly. "wears his heart on his shoulder".
In short, Bone, does, use his influence to further his "agenda". And Bone does, have an excessive ego.
But does that make him any different from say, Fester? Raccdogg? vDallas? SHawk? or perhaps even the great Bruv119 himself?
short answer. No.
He is a good man, he is my squadron leader, he does what he does, because it is his squadron, and his pilots. He, as the CO, likes his pilots, and his pilots, like him.
It doesn't matter what this fight is over, who this fight is over.
The fact of the matter is, this fight is over a personality which is the sole property of its owner, DrBone, Andy, Mr Schall. He does what he does because he thinks he should do it. If that brings it into conflict with yours, strike back, play your game. But arguing over something that has both happened, and been resolved. Is not just pointless, its childish, disguise it as much as you like, both sides in this fight are inherently flawed.
Maturity in my opinion is something that this game lacks more and more, which is ironic considering that I started playing this game Age 13. Five years ago. Egos run high in this game, not wanting to admit that they are wrong is something that everyone in this game does and continues to do.
If maturity is the issue, then let it be resolved. Put the dueling pistols down, and get on with flying and dying like the rest of the community has been doing while you have sat down and written this tirade.
As for my CO DrBone, he is at liberty to say what he likes to this fusillade of yours, but he is convinced on his point, and you are convinced on yours. Any argument is futile, as is this whole facade of he said she said bullshiit.
Not all of Bone's pilots, are mindless minions, in fact, none of them are, they are rallying round their leader because he is their leader, just as the Vtards will rally round Dallas, and the 71 RAF will rally around RTHolmes, RedTop, JimmyC or any member who comes under attack.
All this is doing, is fighting a pointless fight.
:salute Personally Shida, you are a good man, I know this. But this is below you, as it is below my CO.
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Can I have a invite to read the Topgun site?
I promise to continue to write nonsense if i can :old:
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I remember back in the day some chap came on vox and it was shreck this and b*tad that etc
And 68 Magnum said "Excuse me budy but we like to treat each other with repsect around here."
I thought what a fine bunch of fellows these AH chaps are :salute
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As a Top Gun Member. And one of the first people you met in this game Nrshida. I will level with you.
Yes, Bone, has a nature for both ego tripping and using his influence over players in this game to further his agenda. As a squadron leader and a former wing leader in the highest rated squadron in AH2. And a leading member in terms of both skill level, and in the Aces High Player community. It is inevitable that Bone would have an agenda on what he wants to happen in both his squad and his affiliates.
With talent and skill, comes ego, as Bone commands some of the best prowess in the air in this game it is natural that he should have a head to match. Which is obvious he does. With this head comes pride, pride in both himself and his skills, pride in his squadron, of which I am a member, and loathing for those who get on his bad side, e.g: yourself and the Few. He is prone to emotional outbursts, and cannot control his reactions on occasion. Tending to exaggerate situations rather than simplify.
Bone himself admits to this. He does have an excessive ego, and he , to quote directly. "wears his heart on his shoulder".
In short, Bone, does, use his influence to further his "agenda". And Bone does, have an excessive ego.
But does that make him any different from say, Fester? Raccdogg? vDallas? SHawk? or perhaps even the great Bruv119 himself?
short answer. No.
He is a good man, he is my squadron leader, he does what he does, because it is his squadron, and his pilots. He, as the CO, likes his pilots, and his pilots, like him.
It doesn't matter what this fight is over, who this fight is over.
The fact of the matter is, this fight is over a personality which is the sole property of its owner, DrBone, Andy, Mr Schall. He does what he does because he thinks he should do it. If that brings it into conflict with yours, strike back, play your game. But arguing over something that has both happened, and been resolved. Is not just pointless, its childish, disguise it as much as you like, both sides in this fight are inherently flawed.
Maturity in my opinion is something that this game lacks more and more, which is ironic considering that I started playing this game Age 13. Five years ago. Egos run high in this game, not wanting to admit that they are wrong is something that everyone in this game does and continues to do.
If maturity is the issue, then let it be resolved. Put the dueling pistols down, and get on with flying and dying like the rest of the community has been doing while you have sat down and written this tirade.
As for my CO DrBone, he is at liberty to say what he likes to this fusillade of yours, but he is convinced on his point, and you are convinced on yours. Any argument is futile, as is this whole facade of he said she said bullshiit.
Not all of Bone's pilots, are mindless minions, in fact, none of them are, they are rallying round their leader because he is their leader, just as the Vtards will rally round Dallas, and the 71 RAF will rally around RTHolmes, RedTop, JimmyC or any member who comes under attack.
All this is doing, is fighting a pointless fight.
:salute Personally Shida, you are a good man, I know this. But this is below you, as it is below my CO.
Keep posting shida!
you are doing such a great job outing me. :aok :aok :rofl
edit:I shall withdraw from this thread and continue to watch this misinformed twit.
well said Pacman. :cheers: :salute
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I think we should all congratulate Dr Bone on having the will power to give up smoking. Good luck with that DB all this who ha cannot be helping so perhaps we should return to all this at a later date.
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I'm reading this thread today to learn more about the US/ Brit Navy battles and see a bunch of kids peeing in the sandbox.
Go away before I call your mothers. :old:
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Hi GS hows your bunker?
It's great. Holding up my house nicely.
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I'm reading this thread today to learn more about the US/ Brit Navy battles and see a bunch of kids peeing in the sandbox.
Go away before I call your mothers. :old:
I'm sorry that it has gone from a historical discussion (Which I do enjoy) to a peeing match between two squads. Really? Can't there be a simple discussion here without it getting dragged to the dogs? Even if it was a Troll from the begining, surelly it is obvious that some of us were enjoying a discussion on something other than AH and ww2. Why do we need to destroy every discussion here?
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I never laughed so much. A propper purse fight!
Please carry on :banana:
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I think we should all congratulate Dr Bone on having the will power to give up smoking. Good luck with that DB all this who ha cannot be helping so perhaps we should return to all this at a later date.
I appreciate that Yarbs but really ppl make it out to be a lot more then what it is.
When you set you're mind to doing something that not only benefits you but the ppl around you it's easy.
I have no need to take anything said very seriously considering the fact they are Just throwing a temper tantrum, It's a game take a break from the BBS/Game like I did and return with a fresh mind set.
:salute :cheers:
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I never laughed so much. A propper purse fight!
Please carry on :banana:
Its not a laughing matter Klam this is a serious issue which needs to be understood with compassion and empathy :old:
Coombzy is a spy! and Bruv dumps before flight its shamefull in my uneducated opinion :old:
Pipz has been outed as well :old: Spy!
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This is my favorite thing to say on the internet at the moment:
"So who are we hateing next" :old:
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you are doing such a great job outing me. :aok :aok :rofl
Well I really can't take all of the credit, you did the bulk of the work yourself after all.
Not one denial.
Now run along now DrBone, shouting that it's 'only a game' and how you won anyway over your shoulder as you skulk away.
edit:I shall withdraw from this thread and continue to watch this misinformed twit.
It's a game take a break from the BBS/Game like I did and return with a fresh mind set.
Child's play.
With talent and skill, comes ego,
It can. Also the ego can come first and the talent be introduced by a third party.
But does that make him any different from say, Fester? Raccdogg? vDallas? SHawk? or perhaps even the great Bruv119 himself?
You are proceeding under a false assumption to think I hold Bruv as a paragon of virtue. I lost respect for Bruv's leadership abilities over his handling of DrBone while the latter was with The Few. That was another component of some of us leaving The Few. I trust Bruv has learned and progressed in the year since then, I don't really know, I've had very little contact.
The fact of the matter is, this fight is over a personality which is the sole property of its owner, DrBone, Andy, Mr Schall.
No. This fight is over what he does with that personality. When he makes other people pay for his problems, then he will face my objections. Other people's objections too from the looks of things.
But this is below you, as it is below my CO.
You are right, dealing with the 'care in the community' DrBone is so far below my level that it would make you weep. Take it then, this bothering to chronicle the soap opera, as an indication of how strongly I feel that a base level of normal civilised behaviour should prevail within this online community as it should in normal life, instead of allowing these emotional imbeciles to displace that with their own system where their anarchic heirarchy prevails.
I have similar respect for you Mr. Lawrence as you have always displayed maturity beyond your years and courage in the face of personal adversity. Traits which I admire and respect. I thank you for taking the trouble to write your post and will consider what you said while I decide what future action, if any, I will take.
I have no particular argument with anyone but Drbone. He needed a reality check and I think he got it.
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This is my favorite thing to say on the internet at the moment:
"So who are we hateing next" :old:
Yarbles! You are a good guy Yarbs! Even if you Mad at the hogg I give you this :salute
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I appreciate that Yarbs
:salute :cheers:
Yarbles! You are a good guy Yarbs! Even if you Mad at the hogg I give you this :salute
Everyone stop what you are doing and look at me .
According to top gun I am appreciated, saluted, a good guy and I am in The Few :angel:
Beat that.
Would anyone else like to tell me how great I am :D
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you in game Yarbles old bean?
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you in game Yarbles old bean?
No i am too busy sitting here admiring myself :cool:
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I think you're smelly
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I think you're smelly
:cry
I am crushed :bolt:
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No i am too busy sitting here admiring myself :cool:
Get your hands off that, and put it away. :old:
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you in game Yarbles old bean?
You weren't there :mad:
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Just quit crying! You call others emotional imbeciles when you are clearly bleeding from down there whining like a little b. Who gives a crap? Yea I started this post with the intention to Trolllololol.. But as soon as I read the replays from the community I was hooked my self. I love history and the war of 1812 truly was a rare battle to me. How can you not appreciate?..
Drbone should not even be mention here, the only reason bone join this thread was to try to find the spy...YES THIS WHOLE ARGUEMENT BEGAN BECAUSE coombzy POSTED INFORMATION FROM THE Top Gun PRIVATE forums. The guy who infiltrated Top Gun to spy for the fewb should be banned.
Ya ll keep on changing subject talking crap about Drbone only cause he Leads Top Gun.. Who gives a crap how he left the squad??! There is a New Era of Aces in this game so get over it. Top Gun kicks your arse.
Go ahead, CHANGE SUBJECT AGAIN.... subject was: Coombzy has minions that spy on Top Gun PRIVATE FORUMS....... HOW MANY OF YOU THINK YOU WOULD BE BANNED FOR SPYING AND POSTING PRIVATE INFORMATION FROM A PRIVATE FORUM?? I guess you will not be banned as long as you are friends with staff members..
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You weren't there :mad:
I was in Asda I am in game now you Cockney :old:
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Everyone stop what you are doing and look at me .
According to top gun I am appreciated, saluted, a good guy and I am in The Few :angel:
Beat that.
Would anyone else like to tell me how great I am :D
Impossibru! Top Gun likes a Few? IT IS TRUE! THE END MUST BE NEAR! :uhoh
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Dec 21, ..... Hits the fan.
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I guess you will not be banned as long as you are friends with staff members..
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I was in Asda I am in game now you Cockney :old:
They have great Carne there.
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(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8103/crazy5.gif)
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Go ahead, CHANGE SUBJECT AGAIN.... subject was: Coombzy has minions that spy on Top Gun PRIVATE FORUMS....... HOW MANY OF YOU THINK YOU WOULD BE BANNED FOR SPYING AND POSTING PRIVATE INFORMATION FROM A PRIVATE FORUM?? I guess you will not be banned as long as you are friends with staff members..
:salute This is very fine work. I have to say I can't remember if I have ever seen better.
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I have not been using information about DrBone, I have only stated the facts I know :old:
DrBone is loud and likes soft fruit products, this is not a slanderous comment but is self evident :old:
I am not angry just disappointed :cry
I demand that I to be allowed on the Topgun forum :old:
I am retiring to my town house to take a tonic and thrash the stable boy :old:
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I have not been using information about DrBone, I have only stated the facts I know :old:
DrBone is loud and likes soft fruit products, this is not a slanderous comment but is self evident :old:
I am not angry just disappointed :cry
I demand that I to be allowed on the Topgun forum :old:
I am retiring to my town house to take a tonic and thrash the stable boy :old:
:lol you are a nut zack!
Honestly though if you are not in the Squad you should not have access so in all reality I am abiding by my own rules which I broke only out of friendship only to be back stabbed once more.
Please let this thread die Zack it is pointless my friend.
:salute
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Bone had forced me to it :old:
I will have to release THOSE puctures I am sorry, its not pleasant but I feel the AH community need to know of that trip to San Fransico :cry
Flowers in your hair and all :cry
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I demand that I to be allowed on the Topgun forum :old:
If you manage to get back in can I have some more of the naked wrestleing photo's. I forgot to laminate the others and they are a bit damp and perished now :(
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Epic. Thread. :banana:
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Honestly though if you are not in the Squad you should not have access
I agree.
...my own rules which I broke only out of friendship only to be back stabbed once more.
Yes you did get stabbed in the back by a friend. Absolutely shocking.
I also think this thread will shortly die. Would be a shame therefore not to round it off with the funniest punchline of all:-
All those people DrBone threw out of the Top Gun forum, and he still didn't get the right man :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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:rofl
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Not to worry I am sure the low life who is causing drama will be outed soon enough.
:lol :aok
3rd time is always the charm.
quick FYI Only 3 have been removed from the TG Forums. :aok
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I think we should all stop pretending that these private forumns are for anything other than chatting about men things. I would like to re introduce SDL as a chance to meet more men in a "casual atmosphere"with a shared obsession as well as interest in war games and of course "dressing for pleasure" ;).
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Not to worry I am sure the low life who is causing drama will be outed soon enough.
Are you leaving Top Gun Bone? No way! :eek:
quick FYI Only 3 have been removed from the TG Forums. :aok
Keep practicing your counting, you could always use your fingers to help.
I am enjoying your encouraging daily PMs by the way. Please do keep that up.
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What were we talking about again?
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Who had control of the CV?
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What were we talking about again?
:)
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Bragging about the fact you have someone watching our forums.
Classic. :aok
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Bragging about the fact you have someone watching our forums.
Classic. :aok
Me? I wasn't very interested in the content of your forum when I had access, why should I be interested now? Are you sure you're not paranoid :lol
Bone I thought you've said several times now you were leaving this thread?
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I demand to be let back onto the Topgun thread I have unfinished business :)
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It is a weakness of mine to respond to ill minded fools.
Apologies forgive?
:lol
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I thought we were supposed to be letting this thread die so as not to draw attention to the epic meltdown
happy Monday (from the future)
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I thought we were supposed to be letting this thread die so as not to draw attention to the epic meltdown
happy Monday (from the future)
FUTURE! I knew it was possible, all my theories about time travel have been correct!!!! SUCK IT HAWKING!!!
(http://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/tin-foil-hat.jpg)
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FUTURE! I knew it was possible, all my theories about time travel have been correct!!!! SUCK IT HAWKING!!!
(http://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/tin-foil-hat.jpg)
How'd you get that pic? I thought I destroyed all copies! The MiB's gave that too ya didn't they. Also New Zealand: Australia's New Jersey(heard that on tv thought ov coombzy)
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It is a weakness of mine to respond to ill minded fools.
Apologies forgive?
:lol
So you talk to yourself.
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The term you're looking for is 'weak-minded' (http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k526/rwrk2/slap.gif)
If you wanted a proper discussion DrBone you should have composed a rebuttal to the points I raised. I leave bickering to others.
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The term you're looking for is 'weak-minded' (http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k526/rwrk2/slap.gif)
If you wanted a proper discussion DrBone you should have composed a rebuttal to the points I raised. I leave bickering to others.
Shouldnt you be working on that Ki-84?
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Shouldnt you be working on that Ki-84?
I am :)
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Not to worry I am sure the low life who is causing drama will be outed soon enough.
I'll give you a clue... Look at post 1 in this thread.
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Getting back on topic, a book worth reading.
American Ships of the Colonial & Revolutionary Periods
John F Millar
ISBN 0-393-03222-1
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I'll give you a clue... Look at post 1 in this thread.
I dont think ALFIE is a lowlife, I though her was cool with you? :uhoh
:noid
I know your gonna say thats not the first post but simply reply #1 I counter that it is the first post and that the opener is the OP.