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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: bongboy1 on September 21, 2012, 03:51:32 AM
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Major Genaral Adnan Sillu defected from the Syrian Army after being a party to top level talks about using chemical weapons against civilian populations. Anyways, after having a long hard talk with my Berkeley friends, and explaining to them how messed up it is to sit on the side lines n watch civilians be nerve gassed by tyrants, they finally agreed with me that enough is enough n that the USA is obligated to get envolved at a certain point. What got them was the all famous quote, that "do u believe evil exists?" Yes is the answer of course... "And that evil will always exist, right?" Right... "Then if you alone have the power to fight evil, isn't your responcablity." Anyways, with a hint of commen sense, I've been able to overturn most of my nieve hippie friends. Once again, anyways, I've been contemplating how would be the best way to handle this genocide in syria. I'm all for stepping in when is needed. But we have to consider our economy and how many conflict zones we're already involved in. I'm all for stepping in, but to what level? Anways excuse the ranting n misspelling. I'm a little hammered n was discussing this at the bar n need a second, n more educated opinion.
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That old lie again, didn't learn anything from the last gulf war eh?
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Like I said, I've already heard the idiots conspiracy/hippie liberal theory n I shot it all down. I want an educated opinion.
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Major Genaral Adnan Sillu defected from the Syrian Army after being a party to top level talks about using chemical weapons against civilian populations. Anyways, after having a long hard talk with my Berkeley friends, and explaining to them how messed up it is to sit on the side lines n watch civilians be nerve gassed by tyrants, they finally agreed with me that enough is enough n that the USA is obligated to get envolved at a certain point. What got them was the all famous quote, that "do u believe evil exists?" Yes is the answer of course... "And that evil will always exist, right?" Right... "Then if you alone have the power to fight evil, isn't your responcablity." Anyways, with a hint of commen sense, I've been able to overturn most of my nieve hippie friends. Once again, anyways, I've been contemplating how would be the best way to handle this genocide in syria. I'm all for stepping in when is needed. But we have to consider our economy and how many conflict zones we're already involved in. I'm all for stepping in, but to what level? Anways excuse the ranting n misspelling. I'm a little hammered n was discussing this at the bar n need a second, n more educated opinion.
Let's get back to this issue when the first chemical weapons in Iraq are found... :banana:
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Like I said, excuse my spelling. I just got back from the bar, I'm doing this all from my cell phone n can't spell check. At least I'm an intellectual drunk n not one who spends all night figuring how to place one foot in front of the other.
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Let's get back to this issue when the first chemical weapons in Iraq are found... :banana:
Satalite images show the transportaion of chem weapons from iraq into syria prior to bush jrs invasion of iraq. Look it up.
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Let's get back to this issue when the first chemical weapons in Iraq are found... :banana:
Plus, its commen knowledge that saddam nerve gassed 20,000 men women and children (the kurds) in his own country. Where'd all that nerve gas come from?! N where'd it go?! Like I said, show the facts with a hint of common sense.
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If there is LEGITIMATE proof that they are used, I'm for stopping it. BUT, there was blatant misinformation given to justify the war in Iraq. If you think it was just mistakes, look up the term PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY. The only thing accomplished by attacking Iraq was to do something NEVER before accomplished in millenia...we made allies of Arabs and Persians. Iraq is now allowing Iran to support Syria with troops and weapons by permitting Iran to use their airspace. BRILLIANT! Way to go DUB!!!!!
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You mean like all the mobile labs good ole Dub said Saddam had? Koolaide anyone?
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Are you F*ing kidding me!?! PLAUSIBLE DENIABILiTY!!! We're talking about weapons of mass descruction here!!! Not petty theft! The intelligence guys are screaming on their desks n you're talking about plausible deniablity!
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can you guys shut up and let the nwo take over. im counting on the dow to be over 20 so i can retire. :old:
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It was also proved prior to the war, by Bush's own lead weapons inspector that those weapons were destroyed...He even resigned over it. Bush also outed a covert CIA operative in revenge for her husband the Ambassador who supported the facts...they were destroyed.
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Plus, its commen knowledge that saddam nerve gassed 20,000 men women and children (the kurds) in his own country. Where'd all that nerve gas come from?! N where'd it go?! Like I said, show the facts with a hint of common sense.
Sadam got his chem weapons from the US, back in the day when he was your friendly dictator buddy.
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Sadam got his chem weapons from the US, back in the day when he was your friendly dictator buddy.
Kinda like we gave the taliban weapons to end the cold war. Let's keep the symantics asside.
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Just saw you avatar...geez, a rabid hawk and a weed smoker...really incompatible, lmao. Bongboy, despite volumes of proof against your assertions, you will never change your opinion, thus I must label you a troll. Have a good life.
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Just saw you avatar...geez, a rabid hawk and a weed smoker...really incompatible, lmao. Bongboy, despite volumes of proof against your assertions, you will never change your opinion, thus I must label you a troll. Have a good life.
What proof? Ur full of it just like you're arguements. :rofl
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You're just a panzy who doesn't have the balls to do what's right. I'm talking about saving lives from genocide n ur pointing out every reason to not do something about this. If I remember correctly, 5000 syrian civilians are killed every month by gov attacks.
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I don't think the US should get involved even if they nuke their own people. The US army should stay out of all civil wars, we have no reason to be there. We have verry little to gain by getting involved. That part of the world hates us no matter what we do. Whats the point?
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I'm sorry for getting so passionate about this but I honestly feel that USA is the only country who's capable of being the "world police." Lord knows we need one n the UN aint worth beep. Who else has the power n technology to saves lives around the world at little cost to our boys, in the grand scheme of things.
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You're very selfish people. We have a higher calling then just sitting around n watching the world destory itself. How well did that work out for us during ww2?
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You're very selfish people. We have a higher calling then just sitting around n watching the world destory itself. How well did that work out for us during ww2?
One of the worst wars in history is still going in right now in the Congo. Where is your anger for that?
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Get real people! Study history a bit! Watching the world destory itself from the side line is no defense. Prob the worst thing we could do in the long run.
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If we want to fix the world spend a trillion dollars to feed all the worlds famished. War is never the answer.
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One of the worst wars in history is still going in right now in the Congo. Where is your anger for that?
Its horrible, and I'm very upset about that. If I were president, I'd end that bs first thing.
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Get real people! Study history a bit! Watching the world destory itself from the side line is no defense. Prob the worst thing we could do in the long run.
Why arent you in the armed forces then?
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None of ur business but since I don't care,, athsma n flat feet. Found out long ago I had no shot.
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Its horrible, and I'm very upset about that. If I were president, I'd end that bs first thing.
How are you going to fight 5 wars? Where would you get the money? 300 million people arnt going to solve the problems of 7 billion.
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nobody ever says how nice the world will be when the nwo has control. here in america the poor have direct tv! :old:
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How are you going to fight 5 wars? Where would you get the money? 300 million people arnt going to solve the problems of 7 billion.
Why don't u try taking that thumb out ur butt, n hold on to that pair between your legs n make a noble, ballzy decision. Does sitting on the side lines n watching innocent ppl die at the rate of 5000 per month by their own government fall into your decision?
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Paging Mr. Coombz, Mr. Coombz to reception please.
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Satalite images show the transportaion of chem weapons from iraq into syria prior to bush jrs invasion of iraq. Look it up.
you mean the same satellites showing where the scud missiles were?
semp
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Why don't u try taking that thumb out ur butt, n hold on to that pair between your legs n make a noble, ballzy decision. Does sitting on the side lines n watching innocent ppl die at the rate of 5000 per month by their own government fall into your decision?
25,000 people die of hunger related causes per day. Where is you anger?
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You're very selfish people. We have a higher calling then just sitting around n watching the world destory itself. How well did that work out for us during ww2?
why not help africa too? I mean they're starving over there year after year.
semp
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why not help africa too? I mean they're starving over there year after year.
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Because war = money. Not much money in feeding the hungry.
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25,000 people die of hunger related causes per day. Where is you anger?
You mean hunger? I'm all over that. One reason why I loved bush so much, because he was one of the biggest supporter of african genocide n starvation. Bush did more for africa than any other man did before
@ gun http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/071912-618875-syria-chemical-weapons-came-from-iraq-.htm?p=full
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Then you would agree with me that we should solve the worlds big problems peacefully before we get involved in another civil war.
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Bongboy, I suggest you go sleep it off.
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Bongboy, I suggest you go sleep it off.
Perhaps, but let's get back to the point. So the use of chemical weapons against civilain populations ISN'T a red line for you?! Obama already clearly said it was...
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Perhaps, but let's get back to the point. So the use of chemical weapons against civilain populations ISN'T a red line for you?! Obama already clearly said it was...
Would 30,000 people be your redline before you start a thread about famine?
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Perhaps, but let's get back to the point. So the use of chemical weapons against civilain populations ISN'T a red line for you?! Obama already clearly said it was...
I suppose sitting around n watching cilvilians get nerve gassed on cnn would make a fitting christmas for you..
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Violation of human rights is the limit for me full stop. But a comment like this is a pretty stiff indication to me of the level of insight we are dealing with:-
I honestly feel that USA is the only country who's capable of being the "world police."
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I suppose sitting around n watching cilvilians get nerve gassed on cnn would make a fitting christmas for you..
Rude comment, I appologize. N for the record, I donate around a thousand a year to support food banks sending food to conflict zones.
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You mean like all the mobile labs good ole Dub said Saddam had? Koolaide anyone?
Thee are countries like Germany and Russia that even agreed about WMD and a lot of our politicians agreed that there were WMD's.
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This world has much bigger problems than Syria.... Just sayin
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Paging Mr. Coombz, Mr. Coombz to reception please.
haha, I almost posted after Viperius back on page 1, but then I thought "I'm really not needed here"
reading the rest of the thread has simply confirmed that :)
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This world has much bigger problems than Syria.... Just sayin
Just saying, our airforce could cripple syrias ablility to launch a chem weapon attack at little to no cost to american lives, and prevent this whole crisis in the first place. I bet our drones could cripple the syrian war machine.
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It's almost 420 BRB :aok
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Rude comment, I appologize. N for the record, I donate around a thousand a year to support food banks sending food to conflict zones.
No need to apologise to me. Your efforts are noble, but respectfully, you need to transcend your cultural compartment and gain a lot more insight before you can bring anything meaningful to the global solution table.
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I don't know why I'm being painted like the idiot here?
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The president already confirmed what I'm saying. Any use or intention to use chemical weapons will result in american intervention.
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Wtf?! The security counsol and president agree with me lol.
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I don't know why I'm being painted like the idiot here?
You're hacking a problem by employing moral outrage in a penny wise pound stupid fashion while your judgement is impaired.
The president already confirmed what I'm saying. Any use or intention to use chemical weapons will result in american intervention.
...and the world watches with baited breath to see if that's all you do.
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I still hold strong to my beliefs. I thought I'd get more support here. It turns out ah forums are more liberal than berkeley :rofl
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I am patiently waiting for his next thread "OMG Iran has nukes" :D
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I still hold strong to my beliefs. I thought I'd get more support here. It turns out ah forums are more liberal than berkeley :rofl
There is no winner in this situation. We can help al-qaeda or the Muslim Brother hood. Those are our choices.
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Or we can stay the hell out of their civil war.
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Wow looking back on this thread, yall were really good at diverting my questions to something else. Even when you quoted me, MAYBE ONCE answered my question. Typical... Ur lucky I have short term memory loss :rofl only when I drink :headscratch:
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There is no winner in this situation. We can help al-qaeda or the Muslim Brother hood. Those are our choices.
Like I said, the US already said that any use or intent to use chemical weapons will result in american intervention.
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Like I said, the US already said that any use or intent to use chemical weapons will result in american intervention.
Answer this question. Who do we help al-Qaeda or the MBH?
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You guys would prob sit around n watch an old granny get robbed by a 5'1/120lb crack head. :uhoh
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Answer this question. Who do we help al-Qaeda or the MBH?
Omg are u kidding me!
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Answer the question
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Are you F*ing kidding me!?! PLAUSIBLE DENIABILiTY!!! We're talking about weapons of mass descruction here!!! Not petty theft! The intelligence guys are screaming on their desks n you're talking about plausible deniablity!
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What proof? Ur full of it just like you're arguements. :rofl
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You're very selfish people. We have a higher calling then just sitting around n watching the world destory itself. How well did that work out for us during ww2?
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I have at least a dozen questions that were never answered, and you're getting on my case about not answering 1 question?! I diverted from every question n gave yall an answer n 1 question I don't answer I get flak for! N to answer your question, neither. Just make sure no chem weapons get dropped on civies. Hammer the heck out of the syrian war machine n make them bend over n grab their anckles
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:bhead
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Both sides of this fight want to kill you bongboy.
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I have at least a dozen questions that were never answered, and you're getting on my case about not answering 1 question?! I diverted from every question n gave yall an answer n 1 question I don't answer I get flak for! N to answer your question, neither. Just make sure no chem weapons get dropped on civies. Hammer the heck out of the syrian war machine n make them bend over n grab their anckles
Thank you for answering. You would help Al-qaeda.
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I have at least a dozen questions that were never answered, and you're getting on my case about not answering 1 question?! I diverted from every question n gave yall an answer n 1 question I don't answer I get flak for! N to answer your question, neither. Just make sure no chem weapons get dropped on civies. Hammer the heck out of the syrian war machine n make them bend over n grab their anckles
You don't seem to have a problem with the US using theses weapons, otherwise you would be ragging hard all the time cause oh suprise the depleted uranium ammunition your forces are using right now in Iraq and Afghanistan are such weapons.
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You don't seem to have a problem with the US using theses weapons, otherwise you would be ragging hard all the time cause oh suprise the depleted uranium ammunition your forces are using right now in Iraq and Afghanistan are such weapons.
TBF uranium ammo is used against tanks. When was the last time we had to kill a tank?
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Unless you plan on ingesting depleted uranium or manually implanting it into your body (hey - people do dumber things) its not dangerous.
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You guys are helpless panzies. I'm talking about keeping women n children from being nerve gassed n yall got ur thumbs up ur corn holes thinking of every reason not to get involved. Like I said, yall would watch an old lady get robbed by a 5'1/120 pound crack head.
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TBF uranium ammo is used against tanks. When was the last time we had to kill a tank?
Not only, DU is used in a many weapons systems, the Phalanx CIWS among other things aswell. And its hurting your own troops aswell as firing these weapons creates fine radioactive dust which of course your troops breath in along with everyone else.
In 2005 I served with an Lt who was part of the swiss anti-nbc weapon contingent tasked after the first gulf war to help in the search and disposals of Saddams biological and chemical weapons. He told me his portable detector went off as soon as they got there, he ordered his troops to wear their anti-nbc suits all the time while his american colleagues dismissed his findings as false alarms. Ever wonder where Gulf War Syndrome came from? I don't.
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You guys are helpless panzies. I'm talking about keeping women n children from being nerve gassed n yall got ur thumbs up ur corn holes thinking of every reason not to get involved. Like I said, yall would watch an old lady get robbed by a 5'1/120 pound crack head.
The apples to apples comparison would be crack head v crack head.
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You guys are helpless panzies. I'm talking about keeping women n children from being nerve gassed n yall got ur thumbs up ur corn holes thinking of every reason not to get involved. Like I said, yall would watch an old lady get robbed by a 5'1/120 pound crack head.
Bongboy, I think you aren't tall enough for this ride.
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Not only, DU is used in a many weapons systems, the Phalanx CIWS among other things aswell. And its hurting your own troops aswell as firing these weapons creates fine radioactive dust which of course your troops breath in along with everyone else.
Whats better, getting hit with a cruise missile or breathing radioactive dust?
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Not only, DU is used in a many weapons systems, the Phalanx CIWS among other things aswell. And its hurting your own troops aswell as firing these weapons creates fine radioactive dust which of course your troops breath in along with everyone else.
You should go to work for the environmentalists. They like to scare people with nonsense too.
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Whats better, getting hit with a cruise missile or breathing radioactive dust?
Ask yourselve, do you want a quick death or die slowly in agony over years and give birth to children with horrible birth defects?
You should go to work for the environmentalists. They like to scare people with nonsense too.
Oh snap your right, the CIWS rounds got changed to Tungsten but till the late 1990s it still used DU ammo.
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Bongboy, I think you aren't tall enough for this ride.
My comeback would get me banned for sure. But for the record, I'm 6'3. Have pictures on the forum :D
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Major Genaral Adnan Sillu defected from the Syrian Army after being a party to top level talks about using chemical weapons against civilian populations. Anyways, after having a long hard talk with my Berkeley friends, and explaining to them how messed up it is to sit on the side lines n watch civilians be nerve gassed by tyrants, they finally agreed with me that enough is enough n that the USA is obligated to get envolved at a certain point. What got them was the all famous quote, that "do u believe evil exists?" Yes is the answer of course... "And that evil will always exist, right?" Right... "Then if you alone have the power to fight evil, isn't your responcablity." Anyways, with a hint of commen sense, I've been able to overturn most of my nieve hippie friends. Once again, anyways, I've been contemplating how would be the best way to handle this genocide in syria. I'm all for stepping in when is needed. But we have to consider our economy and how many conflict zones we're already involved in. I'm all for stepping in, but to what level? Anways excuse the ranting n misspelling. I'm a little hammered n was discussing this at the bar n need a second, n more educated opinion.
Oh well. There are people in this Country without work, without food, etc. That should be the priority. We're out of Afghanistan in 2014 and need to tend to our own infrastructure for a change. The Middle East can rot.
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Oh well. There are people in this Country without work, without food, etc. That should be the priority. We're out of Afghanistan in 2014 and need to tend to our own infrastructure for a change. The Middle East can rot.
You won't be singing the same tune if this spreads out to supply routes or even oil fields, and you're paying $8 a gal at the pump. Worst case of course, but like I said, US government has said it will get involved if Syria uses or shows intent to use chemical weapons
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You won't be singing the same tune if this spreads out to supply routes or even oil fields, and you're paying $8 a gal at the pump. Worst case of course, but like I said, US government has said it will get involved if Syria uses or shows intent to use chemical weapons
Wanna bet? You're drunk and think you have all of the answers to the World's problems. When you dry out, you might ask yourself: "Is the beer worth it?"
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Wanna bet? You're drunk and think you have all of the answers to the World's problems. When you dry out, you might ask yourself: "Is the beer worth it?"
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At least read out my thread. I may have been drinking hours ago but my logic was never off. All I'm saying is that the syrian government using chemical weapons against civilian populations is the "red line." Presidents Obamas words...
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I'm sorry for getting so passionate about this but I honestly feel that USA is the only country who's capable of being the "world police." L
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Satalite images show the transportaion of chem weapons from iraq into syria prior to bush jrs invasion of iraq. Look it up.
Luckily nobody had invented photoshop back then. Oh no they did!
Nobody could find one trace of the alleged massive caches of chemical weapons despite the multiple photo evidence that were shopped by the intelligence agencies :)
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Helping the Rebels in Libya and Egypt worked out. So lets go to Syria! We have a few extra Ambassadors to spare. :rolleyes:
(Edit: The above statement is sarcasm.)
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My comeback would get me banned for sure. But for the record, I'm 6'3. Have pictures on the forum :D
I wasn't discussing your physical size.
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What has Syria to do with the US or the wider community?
These rebels in Syria hate us more than the government Assad is running. :rofl
Popular uprising, give me a break. :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
What about the financial crisis in the US? (WHAT ABOUT THE FINANCIAL CRISIS IN THE US?) :mad: :mad:
"What are we going to do about Syria?" this nonsense stops you looking at the real issues that personally affect your life at home. :old:
The Assad government educate girls as well as boys and keep religion separate from education, what a appalling regime. :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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You won't be singing the same tune if this spreads out to supply routes or even oil fields, and you're paying $8 a gal at the pump. Worst case of course, but like I said, US government has said it will get involved if Syria uses or shows intent to use chemical weapons
$8 a gallon? When's this happening? I am going to get myself that V8 after all :banana:
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take the log out of your eye...and you will see clearly to remove the splinter in your brothers.
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What has Syria to do with the US or the wider community?
These rebels in Syria hate us more than the government Assad is running. :rofl
Popular uprising, give me a break. :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
What about the financial crisis in the US? (WHAT ABOUT THE FINANCIAL CRISIS IN THE US?) :mad: :mad:
"What are we going to do about Syria?" this nonsense stops you looking at the real issues that personally affect your life at home. :old:
The Assad government educate girls as well as boys and keep religion separate from education, what a appalling regime. :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
They do have a prepensity to murderise those that don't toe the line though and blame it on them damned elusive terrorist types every time.
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Do you think Bongboy will wake up with a bad headache and a niggling feeling? :old:
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They do have a prepensity to murderise those that don't toe the line though and blame it on them damned elusive terrorist types every time.
So we want him out of power so we have yet ANOTHER coun try where dancing or listening to music is puniable by death?
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So we want him out of power so we have yet ANOTHER coun try where dancing or listening to music is puniable by death?
I think either we enforce our collective wills on these countries and face a future of perpetual conflict. Or, leave them the hell alone to wipe themselved and each other out in their desperate struggle to be bezzers with Allah.
I say option 2
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option 2 sounds like a good plan...
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I think either we enforce our collective wills on these countries and face a future of perpetual conflict. Or, leave them the hell alone to wipe themselved and each other out in their desperate struggle to be bezzers with Allah.
I say option 2
You damn sure know they wont focus on each other. Theyll bring it back over here even if we left them to thier own devices.
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You damn sure know they wont focus on each other. Theyll bring it back over here even if we left them to thier own devices.
by the time they got done with each other, there wouldn't be as many to give us problems.
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and you're paying $8 a gal at the pump.
Oh it must be on sale!!!
Ill have some pls :bhead
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by the time they got done with each other, there wouldn't be as many to give us problems.
That is if each other is top priority.
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That is if each other is top priority.
they have a primitive mindset. iraq and afghanistan, now syria has been proof that they will take each other out if there are no outsiders to try and stop them. the old saying "out of sight, out of mind" is very relevant to those people. it would greatly simplify things for us if the radical rug huggers took out the other factions...at least then we would absolutely know who to fire our weapons at.
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Who is supplying the rebels?
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most likely the u.s., too bad we can't tell our gummint to knock it off.