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Title: If my wishes could be granted...
Post by: minke on October 06, 2012, 07:06:19 PM
perks (aircraft)
If you bring your ride home, you get the perks. Captured/ditched/killed etc you get nada. Bombers must bring at least 1 home. Existing perk costs reduced - say 25/30%

Ack
CV puffy fixed asap, I'm talking first few shots hitting rad/oil or pw no matter what speed or maneuvers you pull. I would increase cv puffy by 50% at least tho.
The ability to man town ack

Plane sets
Emphasis on developing Russian/Italian/Japanese and French. Germans needs Henkel/Dornier bombers. I know data on Japanese stuff is rare. but hey.

GV's
fix main guns being used as aa fire.

Putting on tin hat, bunkering down and setting my timer for 2 weeks  :cheers:
Title: Re: If my wishes could be granted...
Post by: Tank-Ace on October 06, 2012, 07:25:14 PM
perks (aircraft)
If you bring your ride home, you get the perks. Captured/ditched/killed etc you get nada. Bombers must bring at least 1 home. Existing perk costs reduced - say 25/30%

If you land it safely, you get the perks back already.

Also, aside from a few, perks are fine at current values.

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Ack
CV puffy fixed asap, I'm talking first few shots hitting rad/oil or pw no matter what speed or maneuvers you pull. I would increase cv puffy by 50% at least tho.
The ability to man town ack

Sounds like you're really unlucky. Only issue with auto puffy (applys to all of it, not just CV puffy), is that there is  no shell actually fired, the bursts automatically spawn around your plane.


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Plane sets
Emphasis on developing Russian/Italian/Japanese and French. Germans needs Henkel/Dornier bombers. I know data on Japanese stuff is rare. but hey.

Whatever floats your boat. Just no Yak-3, or other almost redundant aircraft. We don't need an A6M6 or anything either.

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GV's
fix main guns being used as aa fire.

How? Unless you want to make it so aircraft are magically imune to a 75mm HE round, no way to "fix" it.

If you fly stupid, you get shot. Deal with it.
Title: Re: If my wishes could be granted...
Post by: minke on October 06, 2012, 07:35:17 PM
1 To clarify I mean zero perks unless you land.

2 This has happened to many people, hear it a lot on local.

3 yeah ok not another zeke, plenty of other nations and new planes to choose from

4 Most of the time i'm shot on egress, or have been specifically targeted in 1 occasion by someone obviously well practiced at it. Give me one example of where it actually happened in RL or an actual vet who could give realistic probability of it even being possible in combat conditions. Vulching on tarmac, sure, improbable in the air at absolute best and certainly not repeatable.

Title: Re: If my wishes could be granted...
Post by: guncrasher on October 06, 2012, 07:37:33 PM
who cares about points or perks.  i have thousands of perks i never use and I dont really care about how many points I get after every sorty.  all i care is to go in and have some fun with friends.  shooting planes down is not my highest priority, shooting the breeze with the guys is.

it's not like perks wont allow to fly the better planes.  this isnt world of planes where you need to advance to the best next plane in order to get better.

heck there's been times were i spent an hour in the tower talking to some guys and it was a lot of fun.  we didnt even fly a plane.


semp
Title: Re: If my wishes could be granted...
Post by: minke on October 06, 2012, 07:44:23 PM
The ones who care most about perks are the least skilled. Perks should be given to those who fly, fight and rtb. As opposed to - up, ho, die and repeat until you can do it in a perked ride. Or up bomb and bail, continue until you get a perked ride.
Title: Re: If my wishes could be granted...
Post by: Tank-Ace on October 06, 2012, 08:04:47 PM
Up ho and die is a horrible way to make perks. You'll most likely average .2 perks per sortie.

The time spent making endless sorites could be better spent learning to fight.


2 This has happened to many people, hear it a lot on local.
One of my favorite flattop busters was the Ju-87. In nearly 6 years of playing Aces High, I think I was prevented from making my attack run in the Ju-87 grand total of 4 times due to puffy ack.

In the 190F8, I was never killed outright by auto puffy (although to be fair, it is more heavily armored, being a ground-attack plane and all).

Even in an A6M, I was getting lit up by puffy ack maybe one sortie in 10.


You're either incredibly unlucky, or are grossly exagerating the problem.

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4 Most of the time i'm shot on egress or have been specifically targeted in 1 occasion by someone obviously well practiced at it. Give me one example of where it actually happened in RL or an actual vet who could give realistic probability of it even being possible in combat conditions. Vulching on tarmac, sure, improbable in the air at absolute best and certainly not repeatable.

Unless you're flying in a strait line at low altitude, being shot by the main gun will not be a problem on either ingress or egress.

How were you "specifically targeted"? I've made mirical kills at ludicous ranges before; killed a plane in the M8 at over 3k, just by firing away from the commander's possition. Damn thing fires almost as fast as an AA gun.

I've unintentionally killed planes passing through my line of fire in a long-range shoot out. I've also been unintentionally shot down in the same manner.


Keep in mind that far more sorties are made in AH, using far more dangerous (see: stupid) methods than in real life, which results in far more shot opportunities for the tanks. Also, GVers have had far longer and many more chances to hone their skills than real life tankers, in addition to having far more opportunities to fire at aircraft.

That, and if it hadn't happened in AH by now, I would be absolutely dumb-founded. Through sheer volume of fire, its bound to happen. Consider that in one tour of AH , odds are more rounds are fired at aircraft than have by all tanks of all armies since the tank was invented combined.

On that note, in 6 months, tanks in AH probably fire off more rounds than the entire Panzer Korps during the entire extent of WWII.
Title: Re: If my wishes could be granted...
Post by: guncrasher on October 06, 2012, 09:22:43 PM
The ones who care most about perks are the least skilled. Perks should be given to those who fly, fight and rtb. As opposed to - up, ho, die and repeat until you can do it in a perked ride. Or up bomb and bail, continue until you get a perked ride.


who cares how somebody spends their 15 bucks.


semp
Title: Re: If my wishes could be granted...
Post by: kvuo75 on October 07, 2012, 12:13:08 AM

who cares how somebody spends their 15 bucks.


semp


knight cv in 14,4,3

 :noid
Title: Re: If my wishes could be granted...
Post by: kvuo75 on October 07, 2012, 12:15:47 AM
i could randomize 3 numbers there, and there is a subset of players who will panic, accuse me of spying, etc etc.  whether there was a cv there, or not.
Title: Re: If my wishes could be granted...
Post by: Rino on October 07, 2012, 03:44:53 AM
The ones who care most about perks are the least skilled. Perks should be given to those who fly, fight and rtb. As opposed to - up, ho, die and repeat until you can do it in a perked ride. Or up bomb and bail, continue until you get a perked ride.

     So the arenas don't have enough timid folks that don't engage without every advantage yet?  Flying the way you like isn't applicable to
everyone.  Some folks just don't have alot of time to do things like rtb every flight.
Title: Re: If my wishes could be granted...
Post by: ink on October 07, 2012, 10:32:15 AM
     So the arenas don't have enough timid folks that don't engage without every advantage yet?  Flying the way you like isn't applicable to
everyone.  Some folks just don't have alot of time to do things like rtb every flight.

my thoughts the same....enough guys wont engage in Combat as it already is.....that first change would make the MA extremely boring.
Title: Re: If my wishes could be granted...
Post by: Karnak on October 07, 2012, 11:50:52 AM
Perks for landing only would cripple the ability of new, or low skilled, players to ever hope to get the perk units.

As to tanks shooting planes, the only thing I can think of is to not allow the main gun to be fired from the commander's position.

FYI, somebody did post an account of a German tank crew that managed it against a Russian aircraft by using a berm to raise the tank's front end.
Title: Re: If my wishes could be granted...
Post by: bangsbox on October 07, 2012, 12:27:04 PM
I get my tank plane kills looking through the scope :D and minksey cat less :cry your perk system makes no sense. If you get killed hoer aim better or avoid it. Puffy ack should be more not less lethal. And over 100 different times people have produced primary source material on tanks shooting at planes with main gun
Title: Re: If my wishes could be granted...
Post by: TWC_Angel on October 07, 2012, 01:08:04 PM
Like Bangsbox I also shoot through the sight when placing the T-34's main gun on an aircraft.
Mind you, those are usually the low flying marauding B-25's/IL-2's. Now granted its been a very long minute since i last
did any of that. But so long as your on a hill or have efficient slope, heck so long as that Pilot your aiming at is clueless
and flying near straight at you. Your in good standing to take the -pilot granted- 85 MM potshot, and why not?

Nothing is broke here..the game is fine.  :aok
Title: Re: If my wishes could be granted...
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 07, 2012, 02:02:47 PM
4 Most of the time i'm shot on egress, or have been specifically targeted in 1 occasion by someone obviously well practiced at it. Give me one example of where it actually happened in RL or an actual vet who could give realistic probability of it even being possible in combat conditions.

You fly into the cone of fire for the tank's main gun, you deserve to get shot.  All you want to do is remove something because you were flying dumb into a tank's fire zone and paid for it.  We've already shown in other threads that tanks did indeed fire their main guns at planes so being shot down by one isn't out of the realm of possibility.

ack-ack
Title: Re: If my wishes could be granted...
Post by: JUGgler on October 07, 2012, 02:51:41 PM
Players should be perked, not planes or GVs  :O


High K/D should mean high perk value  :O

Man-O-man would that get the rage goin or what?  :banana:  :devil  :cheers:



 :bolt:





JUGgler
Title: Re: If my wishes could be granted...
Post by: guncrasher on October 07, 2012, 06:01:16 PM
Players should be perked, not planes or GVs  :O


High K/D should mean high perk value  :O

Man-O-man would that get the rage goin or what?  :banana:  :devil  :cheers:



 :bolt:





JUGgler

oh that would be soooo cool.  the points and perkies you get are based on the guy you killed.  the higher they are the more you get the lower they are the less you get.


semp
Title: Re: If my wishes could be granted...
Post by: JUGgler on October 07, 2012, 07:54:50 PM
oh that would be soooo cool.  the points and perkies you get are based on the guy you killed.  the higher they are the more you get the lower they are the less you get.


semp

exactly, God I hate to agree with you!




JUGgler
Title: Re: If my wishes could be granted...
Post by: Karnak on October 08, 2012, 08:29:37 AM
That could be gamed so very easily though.
Title: Re: If my wishes could be granted...
Post by: fbEagle on October 11, 2012, 10:15:05 AM
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fix main guns being used as aa fire.

 :rofl Your joking right  :rofl Good one  :rofl     Oh your serious??!! well in that case don't fly down the barrel of my tank and i wont shoot you. Its basic physics. you aim where the enemy will be in X amount of seconds and plane meets 76mm High Velocity round, which has the effect of making you explode. It didn't happen in WW2 because pilots weren't stupid enough to fly at 100 kts straight toward the barrel of a waiting tank.  Its basically an optically guided AA gun just like the 37 mm but twice the size