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Title: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: bc21 on October 20, 2012, 12:42:24 AM
hi, I just have a question. On my screen it showed 13 hits "Targets destroied" Yet in the loggs it only showed 12. Can anyone explane why? Just currios not complaning. Thanks
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: ghostdancer on October 20, 2012, 06:30:24 AM
I would shoot Nefarious a note with a screen shot from your film of it saying 13 objects destroyed so he can compare it against the raws logs and see what is up.
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: Nefarious on October 20, 2012, 09:04:30 AM
Yep, I'll be happy to investigate.
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: bc21 on October 20, 2012, 09:52:34 AM
E-mail sent.
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: Bannor on October 20, 2012, 08:05:29 PM
Yeah, the logs showed I destroyed the dar at 19 and I thought I had destroyed something else first. I checked my film and sure enough I destroyed a structure of some sort. No worries on that.
That was quite a defense there at 19. As we came in from the south we saw what we were sure was con ahead of us and moving away. Made icon on a KI61. And then saw more and some N1K1s. Not to mention the very large mass of dots swinging around from the 9 position. The group at 12 kept moving north and we were closing on their 6. I figured when i saw the forst N1K that it was time to dive in.

 :salute 19 Defenders.
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: Nefarious on October 20, 2012, 08:30:48 PM
E-mail sent.

Where did you send it? I haven't got it.
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: bc21 on October 21, 2012, 04:59:56 PM
nefarious@ahevents.org<nefarious@ahevents.org>;
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: Nefarious on October 21, 2012, 06:04:46 PM
Let me check the spam folder.

EDIT: Not in my spam folder either, please send it to my other gmail account... willhyman AT gmail.com

FYI, I got structures at A19 too, they were not recorded in the logs either.
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: bc21 on October 21, 2012, 07:19:35 PM
one of the items I hit was a structure. that must be it. but why was it not counted?
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: Nefarious on October 21, 2012, 07:21:04 PM
one of the items I hit was a structure. that must be it. but why was it not counted?

Not sure, even in the raw logs provided by HTC, they are not recorded. I will ask HTC and see.
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: bc21 on October 28, 2012, 12:15:53 PM
any word?
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: Shifty on October 28, 2012, 07:16:32 PM
I had the same thing happen during leaning into France when jabboing in the 109E. I got a system message about killing a fuel tank and another structure. When the logs came out I just got credit for the fuel tank. Didn't figure it was worth raising a stink over the little shed where they keep the rakes and brooms. ;)
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: forHIM on October 29, 2012, 07:23:56 AM
My guess, from one who helped build the AH parser, is that HTC or the map maker used a structure type the program doesn't understand so that's why the AH logs wouldn't show it.  However I believe I saw that even the raw logs didn't record it.  So that I can't hazard a guess at.
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: ImADot on October 29, 2012, 09:11:10 AM
I've seen "structure destroyed" before, but not in logs. I believe they are the generic structures at bases that are basically eye candy that don't really do anything. If something can be destroyed that actually does something, it's named: guns, barracks, fuel, ammo, hangar, etc.; and that's what is recorded in the logs. But...it's only a guess.

Structures are part of a base's object group, and not a single object that is generally added to a terrain when it's being created.
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: CAP1 on October 29, 2012, 10:28:36 AM
I've seen "structure destroyed" before, but not in logs. I believe they are the generic structures at bases that are basically eye candy that don't really do anything. If something can be destroyed that actually does something, it's named: guns, barracks, fuel, ammo, hangar, etc.; and that's what is recorded in the logs. But...it's only a guess.

Structures are part of a base's object group, and not a single object that is generally added to a terrain when it's being created.

 funny thing is that in the logs on frame 2, i got credit for 18 things destroyed......but in my text buffer, it said i sunk the ship,. i didn't worry about who got credit, 'cause all that mattered to me was that our objective was accomplished....that being that we sunk it.
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: perdue3 on October 29, 2012, 04:52:24 PM
funny thing is that in the logs on frame 2, i got credit for 18 things destroyed......but in my text buffer, it said i sunk the ship,. i didn't worry about who got credit, 'cause all that mattered to me was that our objective was accomplished....that being that we sunk it.

Not a very CM-like thing to say Cap. Very condescending this.

He had a simple question. No need to bash him and call him egotistical or selfish because he wants his credit. Even if he is, CM's arent allowed to talk that way right? And if your intentions were different than what I interpreted you need to do a better job at leaving no room for interpretation, because you are a CM.
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: CAP1 on October 29, 2012, 05:13:57 PM
Not a very CM-like thing to say Cap. Very condescending this.

He had a simple question. No need to bash him and call him egotistical or selfish because he wants his credit. Even if he is, CM's arent allowed to talk that way right? And if your intentions were different than what I interpreted you need to do a better job at leaving no room for interpretation, because you are a CM.

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Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: Nefarious on October 29, 2012, 06:01:35 PM
any word?

Sorry BC21, been a little busy since FSO ended and was away all weekend on top of that. Checking into it.
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: Big Rat on October 29, 2012, 06:05:30 PM
Yes BC, we will give you credit for sinking the dingy full of puppy's and orphans :lol.  I'll make sure PuppetZ puts it in the objects destroyed total :D

 :salute
BigRat
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: CAP1 on October 29, 2012, 06:39:37 PM
ok, here is what i meant........

copy/pasted from the logs...

325th Checkertails VFG
1LTCAP
23:32:12 Departed from Field #34 in a Ki-61-I-Tei
00:23:51 Destroyed a field gun at base #77
00:23:51 Destroyed a field gun at base #77
00:23:51 Destroyed a field gun at base #77
00:23:51 Destroyed a armored gun battery at base #77
00:23:51 Destroyed a field gun at base #77
00:23:51 Destroyed a field gun at base #77
00:23:51 Destroyed a field gun at base #77
00:23:52 Destroyed a armored gun battery at base #77
00:23:52 Destroyed a field gun at base #77
00:23:52 Destroyed a soft gun battery at base #77
00:23:52 Destroyed a armored gun battery at base #77
00:23:52 Destroyed a field gun at base #77
00:23:52 Destroyed a soft gun battery at base #77
00:23:52 Destroyed a field gun at base #77
00:23:52 Destroyed a field gun at base #77
00:23:52 Destroyed a field gun at base #77
00:23:52 Destroyed a field gun at base #77
00:23:52 Destroyed a field gun at base #77
01:01:10 Arrived Safely at Field #35

 it doesn't say anything about a structure.....yet......
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8044/8136766318_97728a032e.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/70148615@N03/8136766318/)
frame 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/70148615@N03/8136766318/) by 1LtCap (http://www.flickr.com/people/70148615@N03/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8475/8136736049_27e69e6cfb.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/70148615@N03/8136736049/)
frame 2a (http://www.flickr.com/photos/70148615@N03/8136736049/) by 1LtCap (http://www.flickr.com/people/70148615@N03/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8328/8136735917_b8e62dc523.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/70148615@N03/8136735917/)
frame 2b (http://www.flickr.com/photos/70148615@N03/8136735917/) by 1LtCap (http://www.flickr.com/people/70148615@N03/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8044/8136765974_4e02deed20.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/70148615@N03/8136765974/)
frame 2c (http://www.flickr.com/photos/70148615@N03/8136765974/) by 1LtCap (http://www.flickr.com/people/70148615@N03/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8051/8136765746_bdb4973caf.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/70148615@N03/8136765746/)
frame 2d (http://www.flickr.com/photos/70148615@N03/8136765746/) by 1LtCap (http://www.flickr.com/people/70148615@N03/), on Flickr

in the shots from the film here, the very first thing mentioned is a structure, which i believe to be a ship. perhaps by adding these, it gives the guys working on this stuff something else that may help them figure it out.


Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: TheBug on October 29, 2012, 06:46:37 PM
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No worries CAP, he just fancies himself as a Richard.  Funny how a few people these days convince themselves that they are the cure and not realise they are truly the disease. 
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: TheBug on October 29, 2012, 06:49:12 PM
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Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: CAP1 on October 29, 2012, 06:51:22 PM
No worries CAP, he just fancies himself as a Richard.  Funny how a few people these days convince themselves that they are the cure and not realise they are truly the disease. 
just saw you're in ny.........how's things up there so far?
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: TheBug on October 29, 2012, 07:04:24 PM
Well if I believe the news we'll all be dead in the morning?   :)

So far just windy and wet, hope it stays that way.  Although they are talking about Lake Ontario getting whipped up to 20 ft. waves, that would be incredible to see.

Seeing as how you are still posting down in NJ I'd say our prospects up here are looking pretty good.
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: ImADot on October 29, 2012, 07:18:17 PM
the very first thing mentioned is a structure, which i believe to be a ship.

Nope.

I just did a test offline. Each destroyer in the TG has one "Structure"...when I detonated it, I found out it's the radar mast and the flag on the bow.
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: Shifty on October 29, 2012, 07:23:55 PM
I've seen "structure destroyed" before, but not in logs. I believe they are the generic structures at bases that are basically eye candy that don't really do anything. If something can be destroyed that actually does something, it's named: guns, barracks, fuel, ammo, hangar, etc.; and that's what is recorded in the logs. But...it's only a guess.


I think you're on the right track there Dot.
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: ImADot on October 29, 2012, 07:32:26 PM
Here's a shot of a small airfield fuel bunker. Each fuel bunker has three "structures" around it. There are other structures...the little shack at the rearm pad, the indestructable hangar, other little buildings/shacks, etc.

(http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll239/ViperDriver/AcesHighII/Structure.jpg)


My guess (like I stated earlier) is that they probably don't impact the base's operations if they're down, so probably don't count much (if any) towards score, and are probably why they are not recorded in the logs.  Lots of "probably's", but the reasoning seem solid.  ;)
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: CAP1 on October 29, 2012, 07:35:48 PM
Well if I believe the news we'll all be dead in the morning?   :)

So far just windy and wet, hope it stays that way.  Although they are talking about Lake Ontario getting whipped up to 20 ft. waves, that would be incredible to see.

Seeing as how you are still posting down in NJ I'd say our prospects up here are looking pretty good.

 well, last i looked, it was still about 50 miles offshore. it's supposed to have hit atlantic city around a half hour ago(8pm). the last path i saw shown took it slightly south of milleville, which is about 30 or so miles from me, then across to pa, then north to the lake, and into canada.

 lights have flickered a lot. i'm shocked we still have electricity here. hope it stays on.
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: CAP1 on October 29, 2012, 07:36:28 PM
Nope.

I just did a test offline. Each destroyer in the TG has one "Structure"...when I detonated it, I found out it's the radar mast and the flag on the bow.

 rgr that. thank ya sir. that was my misunderstanding.
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: ghostdancer on October 29, 2012, 08:31:44 PM
In regards to ships you get several messages when damaging them. There are several things on a ship that can be destroyed and since they are so closely packed together many times one bomb hit will generate several destroyed object messages (as seen in Cap's screen shots). When you sink the ship you get a separate message in stating that you sunk the ship and it is recorded in the raw logs. A ship is not recorded as a structure when it is destroyed (its recorded like this F84SHP005 ... Fleet 84, 5th ship sunk). Although as ImaDot pointed out ships do have structures (I forget how many per ship type).

Bases have several objects that have an object type of "structure." These can be destroyed but as far as I remember off the top of my head they really have no impact on the performance of a base. They are also not reported in the raw logs which is why they are not in the Events logs (at least I never had an occurrence of a structure object being reported in the raw logs when I worked on FSOs couple years back). So it would be possible for you to get an object destroyed message for one but not for it to show up in event logs.
Title: Re: FSO scores in the event logs
Post by: CAP1 on October 29, 2012, 08:33:30 PM
In regards to ships you get several messages when damaging them. There are several things on a ship that can be destroyed and since they are so closely packed together many times one bomb hit will generate several destroyed object messages (as seen in Cap's screen shots). When you sink the ship you get a separate message in stating that you sunk the ship and it is recorded in the raw logs. A ship is not recorded as a structure.



 thank ya sir....and apologies for multiple shots. i didn't know how to get more of the text buffer to show in the film viewer.

 BTW....notice the speed? i had no clue those crates could dive that fast and survive, lolololol