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Title: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: Stalwart on October 25, 2012, 08:11:21 AM
MS DOS/ MS Windows have been mainstream PC gaming platforms since the IBM PC was introduced with the Charlie Chaplin styled commercials, but it's arguable that MS is taking their OS in directions that largely abandon or ignore the PC gaming community.

I can't imagine our community is going to dogfight on phones, tablets, or even consoles as we know them today.

What can the AH community do to prepare itself for the sunset of the Windows gaming PC?
What is the HTC vision for Aces High going forward forward?
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: mthrockmor on October 25, 2012, 08:14:33 AM
Holy crap...serious? I'm not a computer geek but what you are saying is that desk tops are headed out and the future will be iPads, etc? Won't we always have some version of a desk top? Does AH run on Moxzilla or what the name is, other operating systems?

Boo
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: Bino on October 25, 2012, 09:24:55 AM
From the Microsoft Support Lifecycle site ( http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/  ) ...

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Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: Slade on October 25, 2012, 09:35:23 AM
Great post.  Great point.  :aok

The ONLY reason I still have a Windows OS is to play this game.  LINUX (Ubuntu for instance) runs all the business software and more that one could ever need and it is free.  LINUX also runs significantly faster than any version of Windows.  

* You can even run Windows (non-games) under LINUX using various methods.
* LINUX is more secure and does not require crazy OS patches every month.
* Some newer LINUX kernals can be patched and updated without ever needing to reboot the system, i.e. there would never be a reason to reboot your system.  Do you think this is really true? Yep it is.  I had a Sun UNIX OS mission critical server that was up 2.5 YEARS without a reboot!  LINUX\UNIX is much more stable by design.  I reboot a LINUX system if\when I need to move the physical box to a new location.  That is about it.
* The interface is really simple and does not change with every new version of the OS.

I could go on but you get the point.
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: Bizman on October 25, 2012, 11:53:06 AM
Hmmm... gaming wise I could imagine we'd be having some kind of smart phones connected to a dock which in turn would be connected to flight sim gaming devices and either a big screen or HD video goggles. Then there'd be those, who just set the edge of their fist on the smart phone's touch screen and imagine they have a stick to hold. Or the phone with a motion sensor could be set on top of a TV, making any wand to work as a joystick...
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: Ripley on October 25, 2012, 12:05:09 PM
I mean no disrespect, but try not to kid yourself with the idea that desktop computing is is on the verge of being phased out.

Yes, it is true that Windows 8, which is being released tomorrow by the way, is primarily an operating system created for tablets. MS likes to think that they are bridging a gap, much like apple is doing only much slower (and TBH the RIGHT way) when in reality they are alienating the PC with a touch-driven start screen. It may be a success for the tablet market, but it will flop for the PC market much like Vista did, and 3 years from now Windows 9 will be out and will take the place of windows 7 as the best desktop OS because they will realize that tablets and mobile phones are only COMPLEMENTS for desktops and laptops, NOT full blown replacements.

There are still plenty of hardware manufacturers (think intel, AMD and nVidia) out there that are pushing out top of the line desktop components. They, to my knowledge, have no intentions of ceasing their desktop manufacturing line in the foreseeable future. Why would they? They make too much money by staying above the curve.

Because of these ultra-mobile devices desktop sales are taking a HIT, NOT being completely crippled. Any news you may read about Windows 8 being "Microsoft's chance at redemption" or "Microsoft's last hope" are BS. Microsoft is like the 'AT&T', 'General Motors' or 'General Electric" of computers. Windows is still the number 1 choice for corporate server hardware, corporate user desktops, PC enthusiasts, and gamers, while still holding a decent chunk of market share in the 'home users' category. Until something completely radical changes that the desktop PC isnt going anywhere.

Oh, and as a side note to Slade: Its great that Linux works out for you, however can you imagine a non-tech-savvy 45y/o trying to operate a linux machine?  I just dont see it... Again, not trying to put you down or anything.
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: alpini13 on October 26, 2012, 01:03:05 AM
yes hes is right, we will always need desktops....wait,didnt we say that about television antenae,and 8-track and other tape recording as it was soo much better than records, and glasses went to contacts..now we have lazik AND implants.  yeah,i see where this is going...let me stock up on toner for my printer.
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: 100Coogn on October 26, 2012, 01:30:23 AM
There's too much time & money invested in the performance of a PC, from companies like NVIDIA, EVGA, Intel AMD  etc,, to make me believe that we are being phased out.
I do wonder, how can the consoles keep up?

Coogan
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: save on October 26, 2012, 02:44:25 AM
Windows will still be he main OS for offices and home use, since its currently pre-installed, I see few ways to see it go in the next few years.

Linux will probably be pre-installed along with Windows in a couple of years, because OpenGL is now mature, and many vendors develop games for it, and its more efficient than Windows on the hardware. Also the GUI's are now much better than just 2 years ago in many Linux
distributions.


The cheap computers will probably be sall Linux-machines since OS  are free of charge.

Manufacturers like Nvidia and AMD will always support the OS'es they think would be profitable.
       
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: Ripley on October 26, 2012, 08:20:17 AM
yes hes is right, we will always need desktops....wait,didnt we say that about television antenae,and 8-track and other tape recording as it was soo much better than records, and glasses went to contacts..now we have lazik AND implants.  yeah,i see where this is going...let me stock up on toner for my printer.

You are comparing apples to oranges.  8-track and tape recording are Media storage devices. We still have media storage, they have just taken new forms like cds (also now slowly being phased out), DVDs, Blue-Rays. People still use glasses. Contacts, lazik and implants did not phase them out, not even close. TV antennae are devices used to pick up TV channels. We still have the Television, it just connects through cable or satellite now. Heck I know people that do still use these antennas, only with an analog to digital converter now.

Now, if they were phasing out the television in favor of watching broadcasted channels on the iPad or a Holographic projector, then that would be a viable comparison. But I dont see that happening anytime soon either. Too many people use the television on a daily basis (and the hologram doesnt exist, yet ;) ). Sure, you could watch your TV episodes on the computer or iPad now but whos going to give up the TV because there are more (and mobile) options as to how to watch their shows?

Phones are another perfect example. Over the last 30 years phones have adapted from the landline to an amazing mobile platform. Yet people still use landline phones.

I stand by my original post. Desktop computer sales may take a hit, but they will continue to adapt like they have for the last 30 or so years and are NOT going to disappear in the foreseeable future.


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"I do wonder, how can the consoles keep up?"

The consoles will just introduce newer consoles, as they have always done. The new xBox is in development and we should be seeing it in the next 1-2 years, and I'm sure playstation isnt too far behind. The new Nintendo console is known and will be released shortly, if it hasnt already (i dont think it has?) They should be able to keep up just fine.
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: titanic3 on October 26, 2012, 08:30:15 AM
If you can play flight sims and what not on a phone in 5 or 10 years, imagine what could be done on a desktop.

Mobile devices will never replace desktops or even laptops for games. Why? Because desktops/laptops are bigger. If you can fit "x" amount of power on a mobile device, you can fix "5x" or "20x" on a desktop. I just can't imagine what games will look like in 5 or 10 years.

I would think that 3D becomes the norm, trackIR becomes the norm, realistic physics in almost all games, and larger and more populated servers.
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: Meatwad on October 26, 2012, 08:33:12 AM
yes hes is right, we will always need desktops....wait,didnt we say that about television antenae,and 8-track and other tape recording as it was soo much better than records, and glasses went to contacts..now we have lazik AND implants.  yeah,i see where this is going...let me stock up on toner for my printer.

I still have an operational C band dish in the yard that I watch television on
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: Bizman on October 26, 2012, 09:44:09 AM
yes hes is right, we will always need desktops....wait,didnt we say that about television antenae,and 8-track and other tape recording as it was soo much better than records, and glasses went to contacts..now we have lazik AND implants.  yeah,i see where this is going...let me stock up on toner for my printer.
I changed back to antenna from cable several years ago. My new TV has a built in dvb-t/c hd tuner.

And Titanic3, you're probably right about the multiplied power between desktops and phones. Years ago we talked about maybe having a curved or even a dome monitor in the future and now they are in production.
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: Stalwart on October 26, 2012, 01:09:08 PM
I'm 44 and slightly more tech savy than your average bear.
So, if HTC chooses to support AH on an alternate OS, I want to be prepared.

I kinda hope they do, because I don't like bondage to MS and their business objectives, especially in regard to security.
I don't hate MS... I've been using their products all my life.  I just don't like where they're going.
It's been fairly easy to stick with windows through XP, but I don't know if I can follow on with 7 and beyond.
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: guncrasher on October 26, 2012, 01:44:05 PM
I'm 44 and slightly more tech savy than your average bear.
So, if HTC chooses to support AH on an alternate OS, I want to be prepared.

I kinda hope they do, because I don't like bondage to MS and their business objectives, especially in regard to security.
I don't hate MS... I've been using their products all my life.  I just don't like where they're going.
It's been fairly easy to stick with windows through XP, but I don't know if I can follow on with 7 and beyond.


if ah decides to support an alternate os dont you think they will tell us at least 6 months in advance?  will that be enough time for you?


semp
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 26, 2012, 02:10:02 PM

What can the AH community do to prepare itself for the sunset of the Windows gaming PC?

People for the last decade or so have been claiming PC gaming is dead and it's still the best gaming platform.  Mobile devices and tablets aren't going to replace PC gaming, just like consoles didn't replace PC gaming.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: Bizman on October 26, 2012, 03:21:19 PM
I'm 50 and been in AH for over a decade. I remember when there was a huge debate about win98's superiority against XP... I had my first steps in computing with an Apple terminal with floppies, during which they got two pc's in our school. "Please familiarise yourselves with this, these would most probably become common when you get a job". Then there was this course with 8086's which had a dive bomb/submarine game made of ASCII symbols. The first "TV games" on a console were a graphic masterpiece, like Pong! The first PC games in colour were Captain Comic and Prince of Persia on my then girlfriend's 80386SX. The rig also included Windows 3.0, but it was so clumsy that it was only used for installing programs, the main interface being something created by Peter Norton. I'm overwhelmed how much the graphics have evolved during these years, yet at their heyday they looked amazingly life-like. Who can tell what we'd see in the future? And I'm sure there'd still be those who'd depreciate the looks of AH compared to some other game.
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: Ripley on October 26, 2012, 11:15:25 PM
I'm 44 and slightly more tech savy than your average bear.
So, if HTC chooses to support AH on an alternate OS, I want to be prepared.

I kinda hope they do, because I don't like bondage to MS and their business objectives, especially in regard to security.
I don't hate MS... I've been using their products all my life.  I just don't like where they're going.
It's been fairly easy to stick with windows through XP, but I don't know if I can follow on with 7 and beyond.


7 is worth the upgrade. Where Vista fell short, 7 fixed and stepped up beyond that. I wouldn't go back to XP now. Of course I'm also a computer administrator at my job and enjoy many of the added perks in a business environment.

8, however, i would skip on at least for now (unless you are looking for a business tablet, in which case I would highly recommend giving the new windows tablet a shot). I have been using the Consumer Preview for the last month and a half and from what I've experienced I am in no hurry to rush that onto my home tower.
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: Ripley on October 26, 2012, 11:27:23 PM
People for the last decade or so have been claiming PC gaming is dead and it's still the best gaming platform.  Mobile devices and tablets aren't going to replace PC gaming, just like consoles didn't replace PC gaming.

ack-ack

I know I'm going to make myself look like a know-it-all here, but in my opinion this statement is correct but it's not at the same time. 10 years ago there was no doubt that PC gaming was superior to consoles, and the major reason for this was that consoles at the time did not have internet capabilities, and if they did (xBox) they were JUST starting to scratch the surface of online gaming.

Today, all the consoles have the option of online gaming, and put out decent enough graphics to compete with PC performance. The xbox360 I would say is the most popular gaming platform mainly because of its affordability and it's longevity in the market. While I would disagree that PC gaming is dead, because it definitely is not, it is not the powerhouse that it was at the turn of the millennium. Very few major titles are made specifically for the PC nowadays (ie Battlefield 3) and sadly its because theres more money to be made on console development. But i would agree that it is still the best gaming platform, at least in my opinion. Two things mean a lot to me when it comes to games, and those two things are cutting edge graphics and in depth functions/controls. PC still does these two things the best.
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: titanic3 on October 26, 2012, 11:54:20 PM
Two types of games I don't see ever happening on consoles, hardcore sims and strategy games. Unless they somehow figure out how to map 100+ commands to a controller.

I really wish that in the future, we can have integrated gaming, ie. PC interacting with Xbox and Playstation and vice versa. It can be done and already has been done (look up Dust 514/Eve Online), Microsoft just refuse to do it for any other game because of money. I sometimes wish I could play with my friends on Xbox, but PC game/graphics > paying a monthly fee to play online as well as crappier graphics.
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: Skuzzy on October 27, 2012, 06:34:52 AM
My online experience with consoles is the worst online experience I have ever had.  In every case I tried, I  found nothing but punks who wanted to do everything they could to circumvent the intent of the game in order to win.  Rude, crude, and socially unacceptable behavior seem to be the rule.  I detest online gaming with a console.  There is nothing fun about it.

Whereas on the PC I have found servers dominated by those who really enjoyed the game and when a punk would wander into the room, they were quickly dispatched by the local admin running the server, or by the community attending the server.  Those servers are fun to play on.

I no longer play games as I do not have the time, but I cannot do what I do with anything other than a desktop PC.  Anyone try slamming together a two hour video comprised of, up to 14, HD video tracks and Dolby 5.1 sound using anything other than a PC?  I spend a lot of time doing that.

First of all;  Storage.  So they try and solve that by renting you 'cloud' space and time.  Yeah, try moving hundreds of gigabytes of data back and forth over the Internet.  Have fun with that.
Secondly, workspace.  Uh, I barely do what I do using a 27" monitor. And they would have you cram that into a 10" tablet.  LOL!
Thirdly, processing power.  Need that really be explained?  Desktops kick the poop out of a tablet.

I will not go into the flexibility of the desktop to be upgraded.  I am on my fifth computer in the same case, third generation using the same power supply, updated the graphics card twice, and am getting ready to replace the motherboard, CPU, and RAM.

The total cost to keep my desktop up to date is far less than the amount I would have to spend in tablets.

I guess one of the perks of a tablet is it allows a man to be justified in carrying a purse, if you are into that type of fashion statement.
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: doc1kelley on October 27, 2012, 10:40:05 AM
My online experience with consoles is the worst online experience I have ever had.  In every case I tried, I  found nothing but punks who wanted to do everything they could to circumvent the intent of the game in order to win.  Rude, crude, and socially unacceptable behavior seem to be the rule.  I detest online gaming with a console.  There is nothing fun about it.

Whereas on the PC I have found servers dominated by those who really enjoyed the game and when a punk would wander into the room, they were quickly dispatched by the local admin running the server, or by the community attending the server.  Those servers are fun to play on.

I know longer play games as I do not have the time, but I cannot do what I do with anything other than a desktop PC.  Anyone try slamming together a two hour video comprised of, up to 14, HD video tracks and Dolby 5.1 sound using anything other than a PC?  I spend a lot of time doing that.

First of all;  Storage.  So they try and solve that by renting you 'cloud' space and time.  Yeah, try moving hundreds of gigabytes of data back and forth over the Internet.  Have fun with that.
Secondly, workspace.  Uh, I barely do what I do using a 27" monitor. And they would have you cram that into a 10" tablet.  LOL!
Thirdly, processing power.  Need that really be explained?  Desktops kick the poop out of a tablet.

I will not go into the flexibility of the desktop to be upgraded.  I am on my fifth computer in the same case, third generation using the same power supply, updated the graphics card twice, and am getting ready to replace the motherboard, CPU, and RAM.

The total cost to keep my desktop up to date is far less than the amount I would have to spend in tablets.

I guess one of the perks of a tablet is it allows a man to be justified in carrying a purse, if you are into that type of fashion statement.

As always... SKUZZY Gets it!

..nuff said

<S> Skuzzy- The great and powerful OZ

All the Best...

     Jay
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: zack1234 on October 27, 2012, 11:17:54 AM
I like man bags :old:
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: Meatwad on October 27, 2012, 05:30:37 PM
Man bags hurt if kicked there
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: Stalwart on November 10, 2012, 10:48:36 AM
if ah decides to support an alternate os dont you think they will tell us at least 6 months in advance?  will that be enough time for you?

semp

Good question.

I'm at a crossroads now, which is why I was asking.
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: guncrasher on November 10, 2012, 11:18:56 AM
Good question.

I'm at a crossroads now, which is why I was asking.

buy the damn xbox.  no need to post.


semp
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: Stalwart on November 10, 2012, 12:14:09 PM
Screw you and your attitude semp.  :neener:

My kid has an xbox.  I'm interested in the trend for computers and operating systems.
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: guncrasher on November 10, 2012, 12:50:20 PM
Screw you and your attitude semp.  :neener:

My kid has an xbox.  I'm interested in the trend for computers and operating systems.

well what answer do you want?  every possible answer has been given here.  so you are asking a question that we can all speculate on and that's it.  as for you having your system being ready well that is also speculations.  i'ts like being asked to build a house but your customer wont tell you what they want.  there's nothing you can do but wait and see.

windows as crappy as it is it seems to be the most stable os.  you want to buy a mac, you need windows.  you want to use linux, guess what I cant even install in on my computer, cant figure out why.  then it becomes a hassle for what I hear here on the boards to make it work.

so you can go in and buy the most advanced system you can afford and it will be outdated by the time ah is ready for the next level.  true 3d gaming.

semp



semp
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: Skuzzy on November 11, 2012, 06:01:59 AM
The fact you cannot get Linux to install pretty much disqualifies your opinion of its stability.

Interoperability, yes, but stability, no.

I am fascinated you have found a combination of hardware products which will not run Linux.  That is a tough trick as Linux uses the same fallback drivers as Windows does.  Those drivers have worked for a very, very long time.  Care to post a DXDIAG of that computer?  I want to know what to avoid, in the future.

Been running Linux on computers since the 90Mhz Pentium was out.  Never had a computer which would not reliably install and run Linux.
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: zack1234 on November 11, 2012, 09:27:52 AM
I put Linux on my PC and it works :old:

And as a member of Joe public its just another OP system which is apparently stable :old:

I might put it on my old laptop, but I need to buy some cheap memory for £20 for it.

By the way I am a complete tool when it comes to software and installing Linux was no more harder than installing windows 7.

Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: guncrasher on November 11, 2012, 11:05:22 AM
The fact you cannot get Linux to install pretty much disqualifies your opinion of its stability.

Interoperability, yes, but stability, no.

I am fascinated you have found a combination of hardware products which will not run Linux.  That is a tough trick as Linux uses the same fallback drivers as Windows does.  Those drivers have worked for a very, very long time.  Care to post a DXDIAG of that computer?  I want to know what to avoid, in the future.

Been running Linux on computers since the 90Mhz Pentium was out.  Never had a computer which would not reliably install and run Linux.

I have tried several times using the links provided by Ripley.  twice I got the installation successful  but when i booted no option was given. have tried about 10 times that was the only reason i got my usb memoriy stick.   cant figure out why.  dont know enough about windows or Linux to even klnow where to begin.

semp


semp
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: Bizman on November 11, 2012, 11:49:29 AM
I have tried several times using the links provided by Ripley.  twice I got the installation successful  but when i booted no option was given. have tried about 10 times that was the only reason i got my usb memoriy stick.   cant figure out why.  dont know enough about windows or Linux to even klnow where to begin.

Did you succeed in booting from the USB stick or did you actually run the installation process? Some distributions have a two phase installation procedure, the first one booting to desktop to see that everything works and the second one triggered from the desktop either through an icon or a menu item.
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: edog1977 on November 11, 2012, 11:53:51 AM
I have tried several times using the links provided by Ripley.  twice I got the installation successful  but when i booted no option was given. have tried about 10 times that was the only reason i got my usb memoriy stick.   cant figure out why.  dont know enough about windows or Linux to even klnow where to begin.

semp


semp

I had the same problem. The problem was I did not instruct the installer to load the boot loader onto the correct partition. To solve the problem I did the following. In Windows I created a partition to install Linux on. Then when installing Linux Mint 13 instead of selecting "install along side windows," I selected "do something else." And made sure that the boot loader was installed onto the Windows partition. If you search the Internet you can find tutorials that explains all of the steps.



Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on November 11, 2012, 11:58:37 AM
I had the same problem. The problem was I did not instruct the installer to load the boot loader onto the correct partition. To solve the problem I did the following. In Windows I created a partition to install Linux on. Then when installing Linux Mint 13 instead of selecting "install along side windows," I selected "do something else." And made sure that the boot loader was installed onto the Windows partition. If you search the Internet you can find tutorials that explains all of the steps.





When installing linux you shouldn't use windows to do anything. Windows only messes things up. Ubuntu will automatically detect windows and set the installation accordingly. The only technical part of the setup is having to resize and repartition the drive if you have only 1 drive to work with.
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: edog1977 on November 11, 2012, 12:04:54 PM
When installing linux you shouldn't use windows to do anything. Windows only messes things up. Ubuntu will automatically detect windows and set the installation accordingly. The only technical part of the setup is having to resize and repartition the drive if you have only 1 drive to work with.

I only created a partition in Windows. I guess I could have done that from Linux after booting from the USB drive. That is beside the point though, when I chose "install along side Windows," the boot loader was not installed to the correct partition. I had to select, "do something else," and make sure the boot loader was installed on the correct partition. Creating the partition in Windows did not "mess things up."

I had the problem with boot loader not installing correctly with Ubuntu and Mint. So, I don't think it is fair to say Ubuntu will always detect windows and set the installation accordingly.
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: guncrasher on November 11, 2012, 03:41:24 PM
dx for skuzzy:

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     Driver Version: 9.18.13.697
        DDI Version: 11
       Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
   Driver Date/Size: 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 18252136 bytes
        WHQL Logo'd: n/a
    WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
  Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4584-11CF-4B59-68341EC2C435}
          Vendor ID: 0x10DE
          Device ID: 0x06C4
          SubSys ID: 0x14653842
        Revision ID: 0x00A3
 Driver Strong Name: oem130.inf:NVIDIA_SetA_Devices.NTamd64.6 .1:Section024:9.18.13.697:pci\ven_10de&dev_06c4
     Rank Of Driver: 00E02001
        Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeVC1_C ModeWMV9_C
   Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                     {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                     {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                     {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                     {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                     {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                     {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                     {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                     {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {F9F19DA5-3B09-4B2F-9D89-C64753E3EAAB}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                     {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
       D3D9 Overlay: Supported
            DXVA-HD: Supported
       DDraw Status: Enabled
         D3D Status: Enabled
         AGP Status: Enabled
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: guncrasher on November 11, 2012, 03:42:17 PM
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Sound Devices
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            Description: Speakers (Creative SB X-Fi)
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_00311102&REV_00
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1375 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: n/a
          Date and Size: 5/5/2010 21:30:10, 684376 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Creative
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0x0
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
            Description: Microphone (Creative SB X-Fi)
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1375 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 5/5/2010 21:30:10, 684376 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x0
           Format Flags: 0x0

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DirectInput Devices
-------------------
      Device Name: Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Logitech Extreme 3D
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC215
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: G510 Gaming Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC22D
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: G510 Gaming Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC22D
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: CH Fighterstick USB
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x1
Vendor/Product ID: 0x068E, 0xC0F3
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Saitek X52 Flight Control System
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x2
Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x075C
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x3
Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x0763
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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USB Devices
-----------
+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x1C26
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub20
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 3/24/2011 19:29:26, 343040 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 3/24/2011 19:28:59, 7936 bytes
|
+-+ Generic USB Hub
| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x8087, 0x0024
| | Location: Port_#0001.Hub_#0002
| | Matching Device ID: usb\class_09
| | Service: usbhub
| | Driver: usbhub.sys, 3/24/2011 19:29:26, 343040 bytes
| |
| +-+ Generic USB Hub
| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x050D, 0x0237
| | | Location: Port_#0006.Hub_#0004
| | | Matching Device ID: usb\class_09
| | | Service: usbhub
| | | Driver: usbhub.sys, 3/24/2011 19:29:26, 343040 bytes
| | |
| | +-+ USB Input Device
| | | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC215
| | | | Location: Port_#0002.Hub_#0005
| | | | Matching Device ID: generic_hid_device
| | | | Service: HidUsb
| | | | OEMData: 03 00 08 10 0C 00 00 00
| | | | Driver: hidusb.sys, 11/20/2010 02:43:49, 30208 bytes
| | | | Driver: hidclass.sys, 11/20/2010 02:43:49, 76800 bytes
| | | | Driver: hidparse.sys, 7/13/2009 16:06:17, 32896 bytes
| | | |
| | | +-+ HID-compliant game controller
| | | | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC215
| | | | | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_game
| | | | | OEMData: 03 00 08 10 0C 00 00 00
| | | |
| | +-+ Saitek X52 Flight Controller (USB)
| | | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x075C
| | | | Location: Port_#0006.Hub_#0005
| | | | Matching Device ID: usb\vid_06a3&pid_075c
| | | | Service: HidUsb
| | | | OEMData: 00 00 00 00 22 00 00 00
| | | | Driver: hidusb.sys, 11/20/2010 02:43:49, 30208 bytes
| | | | Driver: hidclass.sys, 11/20/2010 02:43:49, 76800 bytes
| | | | Driver: hidparse.sys, 7/13/2009 16:06:17, 32896 bytes
| | | |
| | | +-+ Saitek X52 Flight Controller (HID)
| | | | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x075C
| | | | | Matching Device ID: hid\vid_06a3&pid_075c
| | | | | Service: SaiH075C
| | | | | OEMData: 00 00 00 00 22 00 00 00
| | | | | Driver: SaiH075C.sys, 5/1/2007 16:10:50, 171144 bytes
| | | | | Driver: SaiD075C.pr0, 5/1/2007 16:10:50, 8252 bytes
| | | | | Driver: SaiC075C.Dll, 5/1/2007 16:10:50, 1046016 bytes
| | | | | Driver: SaiC075C_07.dll, 5/1/2007 16:10:50, 8192 bytes
| | | | | Driver: SaiC075C_09.dll, 5/1/2007 16:10:50, 7680 bytes
| | | | | Driver: SaiC075C_0A.dll, 5/1/2007 16:10:50, 8192 bytes
| | | | | Driver: SaiC075C_0C.dll, 5/1/2007 16:10:50, 8704 bytes
| | | | | Driver: SaiC075C_10.dll, 5/1/2007 16:10:50, 8192 bytes
| | | | | Driver: SaiC075C_11.dll, 5/1/2007 16:10:50, 5632 bytes
| | | | | Driver: SaiC075C_0402.dll, 5/1/2007 16:10:50, 7168 bytes
| | | |
| | +-+ Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals (USB)
| | | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x0763
| | | | Location: Port_#0005.Hub_#0005
| | | | Matching Device ID: usb\vid_06a3&pid_0763
| | | | Service: HidUsb
| | | | OEMData: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
| | | | Driver: hidusb.sys, 11/20/2010 02:43:49, 30208 bytes
| | | | Driver: hidclass.sys, 11/20/2010 02:43:49, 76800 bytes
| | | | Driver: hidparse.sys, 7/13/2009 16:06:17, 32896 bytes
| | | |
| | | +-+ Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals (HID)
| | | | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x0763
| | | | | Matching Device ID: hid\vid_06a3&pid_0763
| | | | | Service: SaiH0763
| | | | | OEMData: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
| | | | | Driver: SaiH0763.sys, 2/15/2008 17:50:02, 178304 bytes
| | | | | Driver: SaiC0763.Dll, 2/15/2008 17:50:02, 1025536 bytes
| | | | | Driver: SaiC0763_07.dll, 2/15/2008 17:50:02, 8192 bytes
| | | | | Driver: SaiC0763_09.dll, 2/15/2008 17:50:02, 7680 bytes
| | | | | Driver: SaiC0763_0A.dll, 2/15/2008 17:50:02, 8192 bytes
| | | | | Driver: SaiC0763_0C.dll, 2/15/2008 17:50:02, 8704 bytes
| | | | | Driver: SaiC0763_10.dll, 2/15/2008 17:50:02, 8192 bytes
| | | | | Driver: SaiC0763_11.dll, 2/15/2008 17:50:02, 5632 bytes
| | | | | Driver: SaiC0763_0402.dll, 2/15/2008 17:50:02, 7168 bytes

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Gameport Devices
----------------
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: guncrasher on November 11, 2012, 03:43:20 PM
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PS/2 Devices
------------
+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC22D
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 11/20/2010 02:33:25, 33280 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/13/2009 17:48:04, 50768 bytes
|
+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC232
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 11/20/2010 02:33:25, 33280 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/13/2009 17:48:04, 50768 bytes
|
+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x068E, 0xC000
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 11/20/2010 02:33:25, 33280 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/13/2009 17:48:04, 50768 bytes
|
+ Razer Naga
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0015
| Matching Device ID: hid\vid_1532&pid_0015&mi_01
| Upper Filters: rzudd
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: rzudd.sys, 9/17/2012 22:21:54, 112640 bytes
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 11/20/2010 02:33:25, 33280 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/13/2009 17:48:04, 50768 bytes
| Driver: WdfCoInstaller01009.dll, 7/13/2009 22:21:12, 1721576 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 7/13/2009 15:19:57, 105472 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 7/13/2009 17:48:04, 50768 bytes
|
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC231
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 7/13/2009 16:00:20, 31232 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/13/2009 17:48:27, 49216 bytes
|
+ HID-compliant mouse
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x068E, 0xC001
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 7/13/2009 16:00:20, 31232 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/13/2009 17:48:27, 49216 bytes
|
+ Razer Naga
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1532, 0x0015
| Matching Device ID: hid\vid_1532&pid_0015&mi_00
| Upper Filters: rzudd
| Service: mouhid
| Driver: rzudd.sys, 9/17/2012 22:21:54, 112640 bytes
| Driver: mouhid.sys, 7/13/2009 16:00:20, 31232 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/13/2009 17:48:27, 49216 bytes
| Driver: WdfCoInstaller01009.dll, 7/13/2009 22:21:12, 1721576 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 11/20/2010 05:33:57, 63360 bytes
| Driver: sermouse.sys, 7/13/2009 16:00:20, 26624 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 7/13/2009 17:48:27, 49216 bytes

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
------------------------
      Drive: C:
 Free Space: 142.1 GB
Total Space: 215.3 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD7501AALS-00J7B1 ATA Device

      Drive: E:
 Free Space: 242.0 GB
Total Space: 250.0 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD7501AALS-00J7B1 ATA Device

      Drive: F:
 Free Space: 227.3 GB
Total Space: 250.0 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD7501AALS-00J7B1 ATA Device

      Drive: D:
      Model: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7240S ATA Device
     Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 01:19:21, 147456 bytes

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System Devices
--------------
     Name: Intel(R) 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 1C26
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1C26&SUBSYS_76811462&REV_05\3&11583659&0&E8
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 19:29:04, 52736 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 19:29:14, 325120 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 19:29:26, 343040 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 3 - 1C14
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1C14&SUBSYS_76811462&REV_B5\3&11583659&0&E2
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 05:33:48, 184704 bytes

     Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1B4B&DEV_91A4&SUBSYS_91A41B4B&REV_11\4&3051774E&0&01E2
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 17:45:45, 12352 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 17:45:46, 48720 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 17:52:21, 24128 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ataport.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 05:32:46, 155520 bytes

     Name: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller #2
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_76811462&REV_06\4&682126E&0&00E6
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller - 1C22
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1C22&SUBSYS_76811462&REV_05\3&11583659&0&FB
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 - 1C10
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1C10&SUBSYS_76811462&REV_B5\3&11583659&0&E0
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 05:33:48, 184704 bytes

     Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1B4B&DEV_91A3&SUBSYS_76811462&REV_11\4&3051774E&0&00E2
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 17:45:45, 12352 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 17:45:46, 48720 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 17:52:21, 24128 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ataport.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 05:32:46, 155520 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller - 1C08
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1C08&SUBSYS_76811462&REV_05\3&11583659&0&FD
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 17:45:45, 12352 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 17:45:46, 48720 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 17:52:21, 24128 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ataport.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 05:32:46, 155520 bytes

     Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0BE5&SUBSYS_14673842&REV_A1\4&7768020&0&0108
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 02:43:43, 122368 bytes

     Name: Renesas Electronics USB 3.0 Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1033&DEV_0194&SUBSYS_76811462&REV_04\4&20BA16EE&0&00E3
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\nusb3xhc.sys, 2.00.0034.0000 (English), 2/10/2011 14:52:34, 181760 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 8 - 1C1E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1C1E&SUBSYS_76811462&REV_B5\3&11583659&0&E7
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 05:33:48, 184704 bytes

     Name: PCI standard PCI Express to PCI/PCI-X Bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1B21&DEV_1080&SUBSYS_76811462&REV_01\4&15DD569E&0&00E4
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 05:33:48, 184704 bytes

     Name: High Definition Audio Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0BE5&SUBSYS_14653842&REV_A1\4&394411B0&0&0109
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\hdaudbus.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 02:43:43, 122368 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_244E&SUBSYS_76811462&REV_B5\3&11583659&0&E4
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 05:33:48, 184704 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 7 - 1C1C
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1C1C&SUBSYS_76811462&REV_B5\3&11583659&0&E6
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 05:33:48, 184704 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 4 port Serial ATA Storage Controller - 1C00
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1C00&SUBSYS_76811462&REV_05\3&11583659&0&FA
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 17:45:45, 12352 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 17:45:46, 48720 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 17:52:21, 24128 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ataport.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 05:32:46, 155520 bytes
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: guncrasher on November 11, 2012, 03:44:54 PM
 Name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 465
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_06C4&SUBSYS_14673842&REV_A3\4&7768020&0&0008
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Drs\dbInstaller.exe, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 233320 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Drs\nvdrsdb.bin, 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 1092288 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_neutral_1c47c44c444e71df\NvCplSetupInt.exe, 1.00.0001.0000 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 72738440 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\Nvd3d9wrap.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 286056 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\detoured.dll, 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 4096 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\nvdxgiwrap.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 221032 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\Nvd3d9wrapx.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 317952 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\detoured.dll, 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 4096 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\nvdxgiwrapx.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 249344 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\license.txt, 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 21892 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\MCU.exe, 1.00.4647.21994 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 1561960 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvdebugdump.exe, 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 222056 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi.1.pdf, 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 40454 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi.exe, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 239464 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvml.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 409960 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\OpenCL\OpenCL.dll, 1.00.0000.0000 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 52584 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\OpenCL\OpenCL64.dll, 1.00.0000.0000 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 60776 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\nvlddmkm.sys, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 13443944 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvapi64.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 2731880 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvcompiler.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 25256296 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvcuda.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 9146728 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvcuvenc.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 2218344 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvcuvid.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 2747240 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvd3dumx.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 18252136 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvinfo.pb, 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 16127 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvinitx.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 247144 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvoglv64.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 26331496 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvopencl.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 7414632 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvumdshimx.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 973672 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvwgf2umx.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 14922600 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvapi.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 2428776 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvcompiler.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 17559912 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvcuda.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 7697768 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvcuvenc.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 1867112 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvcuvid.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 2574696 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvd3dum.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 15309160 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvinit.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 202600 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvoglv32.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 19906920 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvopencl.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 6127464 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvumdshim.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 831848 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvwgf2um.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 12501352 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvdispco64.dll, 2.00.0026.0004 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 1760104 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvdispgenco64.dll, 2.00.0015.0002 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 1482600 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) P67 Express Chipset Family LPC Interface Controller - 1C46
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1C46&SUBSYS_76811462&REV_05\3&11583659&0&F8
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\msisadrv.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 17:48:27, 15424 bytes

     Name: Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) Processor Family PCI Express Controller - 0105
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0105&SUBSYS_76811462&REV_09\3&11583659&0&09
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 05:33:48, 184704 bytes

     Name: Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_197B&DEV_2362&SUBSYS_2362197B&REV_10\4&161972CE&0&00E7
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciide.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 17:45:45, 12352 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 17:45:46, 48720 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 6.01.7600.16385 (English), 7/13/2009 17:52:21, 24128 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\ataport.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 05:32:46, 155520 bytes
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: guncrasher on November 11, 2012, 03:49:28 PM
Name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 465
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_06C4&SUBSYS_14653842&REV_A3\4&394411B0&0&0009
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Drs\dbInstaller.exe, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 233320 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Drs\nvdrsdb.bin, 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 1092288 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_neutral_1c47c44c444e71df\NvCplSetupInt.exe, 1.00.0001.0000 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 72738440 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\Nvd3d9wrap.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 286056 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\detoured.dll, 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 4096 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\nvdxgiwrap.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 221032 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\Nvd3d9wrapx.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 317952 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\detoured.dll, 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 4096 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\coprocmanager\nvdxgiwrapx.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 249344 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\license.txt, 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 21892 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\MCU.exe, 1.00.4647.21994 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 1561960 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvdebugdump.exe, 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 222056 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi.1.pdf, 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 40454 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi.exe, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 239464 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvml.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 409960 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\OpenCL\OpenCL.dll, 1.00.0000.0000 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 52584 bytes
   Driver: C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\OpenCL\OpenCL64.dll, 1.00.0000.0000 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 60776 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\nvlddmkm.sys, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 13443944 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvapi64.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 2731880 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvcompiler.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 25256296 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvcuda.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 9146728 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvcuvenc.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 2218344 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvcuvid.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 2747240 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvd3dumx.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 18252136 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvinfo.pb, 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 16127 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvinitx.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 247144 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvoglv64.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 26331496 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvopencl.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 7414632 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvumdshimx.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 973672 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvwgf2umx.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 14922600 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvapi.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 2428776 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvcompiler.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 17559912 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvcuda.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 7697768 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvcuvenc.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 1867112 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvcuvid.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 2574696 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvd3dum.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 15309160 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvinit.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 202600 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvoglv32.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 19906920 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvopencl.dll, 8.17.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 6127464 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvumdshim.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 831848 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\SysWow64\nvwgf2um.dll, 9.18.0013.0697 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 12501352 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvdispco64.dll, 2.00.0026.0004 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 1760104 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\nvdispgenco64.dll, 2.00.0015.0002 (English), 10/2/2012 14:21:00, 1482600 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) Management Engine Interface
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1C3A&SUBSYS_76811462&REV_04\3&11583659&0&B0
   Driver: n/a

     Name: Intel(R) 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 6 - 1C1A
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1C1A&SUBSYS_672D1462&REV_B5\3&11583659&0&E5
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 05:33:48, 184704 bytes

     Name: Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) Processor Family PCI Express Root Port - 0101
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0101&SUBSYS_76811462&REV_09\3&11583659&0&08
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 05:33:48, 184704 bytes

     Name: VIA 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3044&SUBSYS_681D1462&REV_C0\5&2CE2B8E1&0&1000E4
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\1394ohci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 02:44:56, 229888 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller - 1C2D
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1C2D&SUBSYS_76811462&REV_05\3&11583659&0&D0
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 19:29:04, 52736 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 19:29:14, 325120 bytes
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 6.01.7601.17586 (English), 3/24/2011 19:29:26, 343040 bytes

     Name: Intel(R) 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 4 - 1C16
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_1C16&SUBSYS_76811462&REV_B5\3&11583659&0&E3
   Driver: C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\pci.sys, 6.01.7601.17514 (English), 11/20/2010 05:33:48, 184704 bytes

     Name: 2nd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) Processor Family DRAM Controller - 0100
Device ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0100&SUBSYS_76811462&REV_09\3&11583659&0&00
   Driver: n/a
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on November 11, 2012, 04:16:50 PM
I only created a partition in Windows. I guess I could have done that from Linux after booting from the USB drive. That is beside the point though, when I chose "install along side Windows," the boot loader was not installed to the correct partition. I had to select, "do something else," and make sure the boot loader was installed on the correct partition. Creating the partition in Windows did not "mess things up."

I had the problem with boot loader not installing correctly with Ubuntu and Mint. So, I don't think it is fair to say Ubuntu will always detect windows and set the installation accordingly.

That's quite surprising because I've done dozens of installations to different configurations ranging from single drives with multipartitions to multiple drives with multiple partitions and haven't encountered this problem. I guess it's possible then.
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: guncrasher on November 11, 2012, 04:30:48 PM
I haven even been able to boot from usb drive  tried it many times.  and nothing.  will sli affect anything?


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Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on November 11, 2012, 04:33:19 PM
I haven even been able to boot from usb drive  tried it many times.  and nothing.  will sli affect anything?


semp

That's what I was thinking immediately. SLI = trouble, especially on linux. AFAIK SLI support is still very experimental and buggy with linux.
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: edog1977 on November 11, 2012, 05:03:35 PM
That's quite surprising because I've done dozens of installations to different configurations ranging from single drives with multipartitions to multiple drives with multiple partitions and haven't encountered this problem. I guess it's possible then.

In the link below the OP had the same problem:

http://askubuntu.com/questions/154832/cannot-boot-to-ubuntu-though-installation-was-successful

I don't know why that happened. I had a single hard drive with a single partition. Now that I think about it, it happed on two separate computers when I selected "install along side windows." Probably operator error.
Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: guncrasher on November 11, 2012, 06:14:49 PM
tried it again.  disabled sli removed bridge and get the same old error

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr285/semperac/20121111_160707.jpg)


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Title: Re: Future of Aces High with regard to operating systems
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on November 12, 2012, 01:48:13 AM
tried it again.  disabled sli removed bridge and get the same old error

(http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/rr285/semperac/20121111_160707.jpg)


semp

Why do you use wubi install? I've never got that to work properly either. Boot into linux directly from CD and install through that. The setup will offer an installation alongside windows just the same.