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Title: Midwar
Post by: chaser on October 31, 2012, 09:20:04 PM
I popped into the midwar arena to see what was going on in there cause I was bored with Lw map. The knights had 18 players, bish had 6 and rook had 3.  :rofl

I saw one of our bases flashing with no dar so I upped an m4 and killed the tank trying to camp the hanger. Then I upped an M3 and killed an M4 in the town. After they died they didn't come back. I noticed another base flashing and about 10 of the knights were attacking a knight base and me and the 2 other guys held them off for about 20 mins before we lost it. I've noticed though that every time I go in there there's a few certain people all on one team taking defenseless bases, one in particular biggamer. Is it really that fun to attack a base with no opposition? Even if someone ups, if they can't overwhelm you with there numbers in a few minutes they run off to a different base cause they might die and "hurt their score." Pretty lame.
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Lusche on October 31, 2012, 09:24:10 PM
It's exactly that what has happened before in early war, until that arena finally died off. And it's to a large part by the same people.
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: RedBull1 on October 31, 2012, 09:29:12 PM
 :rolleyes:
Midwar is good for nothing other than getting easy perks.
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Yeager on October 31, 2012, 09:37:07 PM
I had to check to make sure this wasn't some thread punted from half a dozen years ago.....
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Lusche on October 31, 2012, 09:48:12 PM
I had to check to make sure this wasn't some thread punted from half a dozen years ago.....

Half a dozen years ago the MW arena was just a few days old and had up to around 100 players there at prime time ;)
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 31, 2012, 10:15:14 PM
I popped into the midwar arena to see what was going on in there cause I was bored with Lw map. The knights had 18 players, bish had 6 and rook had 3.  :rofl

I saw one of our bases flashing with no dar so I upped an m4 and killed the tank trying to camp the hanger. Then I upped an M3 and killed an M4 in the town. After they died they didn't come back. I noticed another base flashing and about 10 of the knights were attacking a knight base and me and the 2 other guys held them off for about 20 mins before we lost it. I've noticed though that every time I go in there there's a few certain people all on one team taking defenseless bases, one in particular biggamer. Is it really that fun to attack a base with no opposition? Even if someone ups, if they can't overwhelm you with there numbers in a few minutes they run off to a different base cause they might die and "hurt their score." Pretty lame.

It's not only the Knight side, you'll see the same by all sides.  Also, from what I've seen of the G3-MF guys, yes, they will fly as a squadron and hit a single target but they don't run if the base is being defended.  However, there are a couple of Bish squadrons that are famous in the MW arena for solely milk running undefended bases and if a base is defended, move on to the next undefended base.  TonyJoey's squadron is famous for this, you won't find a squadron with more limp wrists in the MW than the Flying Furries.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: captain1ma on October 31, 2012, 10:16:30 PM
when i fly the midwar i find it thoroughly enjoyable. same small group of people ive known or gotten to know over the years. while some of you might find hitting a defenseless base gamey, its a good way to start something. JG54 used to do it all the time in there. it would start a massive battle when people figure out what we were doing.

my suggestion would be that if you dont like people taking defenseless bases, then defend them. if you cant do it by yourself get people to help you. recruit from the latewar if you have to. defend those bases at all costs! chastising people in a arena, that you normally dont play in, is just not nice. get some friends go in and show them who's boss! if not, then just enjoy it for what it is, a fight that is against the odds, and see if you can beat them. thats the fun of it, isnt it?
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: SlipKnt on October 31, 2012, 10:50:55 PM
#1 - we prefer that you defend
#2 - you upped a B5N and were merely bombing "defensless" M4s until another rook got into town with a panzer
#3 - you bombed my M3
#4 - I think you logged off.
#5 - yes, we fly as a squad and will fight anyone
#6 - we also do this in LW with the odds stacked against us.  If we don't get that base, we try again either there or somewhere else.  But be advised, it has nothing to do with a base being defended or not.
#7 - This is NOT a MW thing.  This is an AH2 thing.  We fly in the MAs and in FSO together.  If you actually check the FSO logs, you will see that we do rather well.
#8 - the fact that you are in the BBs talking about it indicates to me that we are doing something right. 

Once again, I applaud your effort to stop us, but if you can't, we request that you bring your friends.  MW is a great place to fly (as is LW).  And if you think ENY is bad in LW sometimes, be aware that in MW, under those conditions, we faced ENY of 27.6 during that particular engagement.  We are used to the high ENY so it never really bothers us.

You can ask anyone that has flown with or against us.  We fly with honor and respect. 

 :salute
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: chaser on October 31, 2012, 11:16:56 PM
#1 - we prefer that you defend  Ya'll ran away after being killed by me in a tank at the first base I confronted you guys at
#2 - you upped a B5N and were merely bombing "defensless" M4s until another rook got into town with a panzer I saw no need to up a tank and drive all the way out there for you guys to run away again
#3 - you bombed my M3 See above
#4 - I think you logged off. I logged after ya'll brought a set of lancs, 2 mossies, at least 2 ostwinds, a 190 and 2 M3's to fight 3 guys.I upped a 190 to kill the lancs but was beat to them and I managed to kill one of the mossies before I got shot down strafing the 20 troops you guys had running. I tried to bring a brewster out to strafe them but the base was taken before I got back. So i tried to zoom climb up to the other mossie (who wound up being biggamer) and as soon as he saw me pull up he dove down to HO. I tried to pull away but was already starting to stall in the vertical so I held my nose up and got a quick burst off. He hit me with a few rounds knocking out my oil but otherwise pretty much missed a hanging brewster. I flipped around and gave chase as he started to turn around my engine gave out and he again Ho'ed me. Mostly all I saw was a bunch of skilless dweebs hording and taking the easy way out with shear numbers and avoiding an actual fight.
#5 - yes, we fly as a squad and will fight anyone That's why ya'll ran from the first base right?
#6 - we also do this in LW with the odds stacked against us.  If we don't get that base, we try again either there or somewhere else.  But be advised, it has nothing to do with a base being defended or not. I've quite honestly never seen you guys in the LW. I'm not saying you don't but it's probably due to the fact I don't fight against hoards in the LW.
#7 - This is NOT a MW thing.  This is an AH2 thing.  We fly in the MAs and in FSO together.  If you actually check the FSO logs, you will see that we do rather well. I'm sure you do quite well when you do nothing but hoarde
#8 - the fact that you are in the BBs talking about it indicates to me that we are doing something right.  I only brought it here to point out the lame behavior and the fact that there's not a soul willing to actually fight in the midwar other than the two guys that helped me.

Once again, I applaud your effort to stop us, but if you can't, we request that you bring your friends.  MW is a great place to fly (as is LW).  And if you think ENY is bad in LW sometimes, be aware that in MW, under those conditions, we faced ENY of 27.6 during that particular engagement.  We are used to the high ENY so it never really bothers us. I won't be back to fight against a hoarde like that. if I wanted to do that i wouldn't have to leave the LW. EVER.

You can ask anyone that has flown with or against us.  We fly with honor and respect.  If you want to call flying with odds at 16 to 3 honorable then by all means think that. To each his own I guess.

 :salute
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: SlipKnt on October 31, 2012, 11:27:59 PM
 :salute
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: LCADolby on October 31, 2012, 11:32:25 PM
Out of interest, is Bigamer shooting at shades these days?
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Biggamer on November 01, 2012, 01:12:28 AM
I'm sorry you feel that way Chaser....as SlipKnot stated above we enjoy flying as a group/squad rather it is in EW,MW,LW,or any specail event....with that being said very nice bombing in your B5N and nice effort on the defence  :salute
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Debrody on November 01, 2012, 01:20:36 AM
Idk, Biggamer and his squadron gave me some good fights there and in the LWMA too, they did not seem like twits.
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Max on November 01, 2012, 08:43:54 AM
I had to check to make sure this wasn't some thread punted from half a dozen years ago.....

this
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: VonMessa on November 01, 2012, 08:49:20 AM
this

Looks like I'm not the only one...
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: flatiron1 on November 01, 2012, 09:06:45 AM
Welcome to midwar, come back soon and bring your squaddies with you.
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Stalwart on November 01, 2012, 09:32:49 AM
I don't fly MW arena, but I enjoy flying MW and EW planes.

... and I miss the occasional RPS tour.  :bolt:
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Max on November 01, 2012, 10:09:22 AM
I don't fly MW arena, but I enjoy flying MW and EW planes.


Jump into the fray sometime...switch to the country getting dogpiled, usually Rooks and have yourself some fun.
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Lusche on November 01, 2012, 10:17:07 AM
my suggestion would be that if you dont like people taking defenseless bases, then defend them.


If it always were that simple ;)

In my final days in EW, they would simply switch targets and attack the other country. If I went over to defend there as well, they instantly switched back to their original target and I was stuck with my new country for an hour. Once they figured that out, they 'won' every time.  :)
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: JimmyD3 on November 01, 2012, 10:37:05 AM
It's not only the Knight side, you'll see the same by all sides.  Also, from what I've seen of the G3-MF guys, yes, they will fly as a squadron and hit a single target but they don't run if the base is being defended.  However, there are a couple of Bish squadrons that are famous in the MW arena for solely milk running undefended bases and if a base is defended, move on to the next undefended base.  TonyJoey's squadron is famous for this, you won't find a squadron with more limp wrists in the MW than the Flying Furries.

ack-ack


Wow this coming from the BnZ specialist, and Pickin Instructor. Bad Form AKAK. Of course you are entitled to your opinion. :x
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Max on November 01, 2012, 11:32:29 AM
Jimmy crack corn........ :devil

Sri Kenai...the devil made me do it.  :angel:
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Daddkev on November 01, 2012, 12:04:16 PM
 :huh :huh :huh Try upping some G4m1s (Betties) against them....once I got 60.03 perkies!  :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: I like G3 MFs  :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener:
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: CDR1 on November 01, 2012, 01:07:42 PM
Seriously boys,,,, so what?,,,, Most of the time the players in MW are "above average". If you fight them you better be ready to learn and die. Defending a base against a Squad trying to perfect their "Method of attack " is great fun. Of course if you actually care about your score I can see why it may not be fun. I have been shot down many times in a row by shuffler trying to figure out how to get an advantage over his p38, same goes for flatron and dot. It's a great game and we are all "Imortal". So mash the throttle into the firewall and pull the trigger. There is a lot of fun to be had, learn how to find it!!!
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Ump40 on November 01, 2012, 02:38:00 PM
It's not only the Knight side, you'll see the same by all sides.  Also, from what I've seen of the G3-MF guys, yes, they will fly as a squadron and hit a single target but they don't run if the base is being defended.  However, there are a couple of Bish squadrons that are famous in the MW arena for solely milk running undefended bases and if a base is defended, move on to the next undefended base.  TonyJoey's squadron is famous for this, you won't find a squadron with more limp wrists in the MW than the Flying Furries.

ack-ack



on the money and  well said Ack-Ack... :aok
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Biggamer on November 01, 2012, 02:57:44 PM

on the money and  well said Ack-Ack... :aok
yes indeed it was ump
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: SlipKnt on November 01, 2012, 03:09:06 PM
Seriously boys,,,, so what?,,,, Most of the time the players in MW are "above average". If you fight them you better be ready to learn and die. Defending a base against a Squad trying to perfect their "Method of attack " is great fun. Of course if you actually care about your score I can see why it may not be fun. I have been shot down many times in a row by shuffler trying to figure out how to get an advantage over his p38, same goes for flatron and dot. It's a great game and we are all "Imortal". So mash the throttle into the firewall and pull the trigger. There is a lot of fun to be had, learn how to find it!!!

 :aok

 :salute
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: JimmyD3 on November 01, 2012, 04:52:47 PM
Seriously boys,,,, so what?,,,, Most of the time the players in MW are "above average". If you fight them you better be ready to learn and die. Defending a base against a Squad trying to perfect their "Method of attack " is great fun. Of course if you actually care about your score I can see why it may not be fun. I have been shot down many times in a row by shuffler trying to figure out how to get an advantage over his p38, same goes for flatron and dot. It's a great game and we are all "Imortal". So mash the throttle into the firewall and pull the trigger. There is a lot of fun to be had, learn how to find it!!!

Well said, it is after all a cartoon war. Sometimes we ALL get too serious about it. :devil
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Black Jack on November 01, 2012, 05:08:10 PM
I agree with AKAK, a few squads in MW will run when attacked. Or plan b, they will attack the other side with less players but u better be ready to fight vs the G3MF.  They will not run, they will not stop, you will die and hopefully you can wax a few of them too. Last night I flew over bish territory to go fight them. Sometimes frustrating because of overwhelming numbers, but just forget the base. That's what they after and they will get it eventually. Fight to get as many as u can. If only we could of had 5 good defenders. Would of been an all night fight.   :salute

Black70
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Max on November 01, 2012, 05:27:24 PM
Black70...one of the good guys who get's it. Always an honorable friend or foe but you'll usually find him defending against the bullies  :salute
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Melvin on November 01, 2012, 05:35:55 PM
Adler says he misses you guys.

In between his Napolean style tirades, that is.

 :rofl
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: SlipKnt on November 01, 2012, 06:41:11 PM
I agree with AKAK, a few squads in MW will run when attacked. Or plan b, they will attack the other side with less players but u better be ready to fight vs the G3MF.  They will not run, they will not stop, you will die and hopefully you can wax a few of them too. Last night I flew over bish territory to go fight them. Sometimes frustrating because of overwhelming numbers, but just forget the base. That's what they after and they will get it eventually. Fight to get as many as u can. If only we could of had 5 good defenders. Would of been an all night fight.   :salute

Black70

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but when I know Black70 is defending a base, we actually change up our tactics a bit on him.  A damned good stick he is...  And respect him we must!!!

 :salute
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: pangea on November 02, 2012, 08:34:07 AM
Good, fun fights with the G3 boys and others last night over a v-base they were trying to take.  We (bish) defended against them for over an hour but they eventually got it.  We were outnumbered but thats okay.  Was a lot of fun.  Can't ask for more than that.  <S> to all, but especially Black70 and Farmboy.  Always worthy opponents.
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: CAP1 on November 02, 2012, 11:32:40 AM
THERE is nothing wrong with g3mf. they are a great squad, lead by rodent, who is a good guy, and they fly squad tactics. if you go against them, bring help, 'cause they'll ruin your day.......or give you massive fun, depending on your outlook of it.
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Black Jack on November 02, 2012, 12:36:03 PM
Tks Slip, but honestly, i'm just trying to survive as long as I can against you guys.  Pangea big  :aok   :salute. Had loads of fun fighting you. I guess you knew I was the 38.   :eek:  The 109 was just zooming by Farmboy and Cotton, coming straight for me. I was telling them...  darn, this 109 is in love with me. He won't leave me alone.  LMAO  at the end, found out it was you. Was a great fight for that v-base. Out of sequence and you guys were just there at the right time, hiding, waiting in ambush or anything else to shoot down the troops. Those are the kinda fights we should try to create in this game. Those are the ones I play for.   ;)

Black70
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: CAP1 on November 02, 2012, 01:02:03 PM
Tks Slip, but honestly, i'm just trying to survive as long as I can against you guys.  Pangea big  :aok   :salute. Had loads of fun fighting you. I guess you knew I was the 38.   :eek:  The 109 was just zooming by Farmboy and Cotton, coming straight for me. I was telling them...  darn, this 109 is in love with me. He won't leave me alone.  LMAO  at the end, found out it was you. Was a great fight for that v-base. Out of sequence and you guys were just there at the right time, hiding, waiting in ambush or anything else to shoot down the troops. Those are the kinda fights we should try to create in this game. Those are the ones I play for.   ;)

Black70

fighting pangea in that dam 109 is like fighting cobia38 in his a20. more often than not, you're gonna lose......but you'll have a fun white knuckle fight in the process.
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: JimmyD3 on November 02, 2012, 03:22:56 PM
I'm not sure how to respond to this Love Fest,  :lol, But admit the fight at the V-base was fun and we did manage to hold out for a second attack.  :salute
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: WWhiskey on November 02, 2012, 03:45:57 PM
I'm not sure how to respond to this Love Fest,  :lol, But admit the fight at the V-base was fun and we did manage to hold out for a second attack.  :salute
Embrace it, it comes along rarely! :bolt:

Salute to Midwar,  :salute  the whiners,  :salute  the winners,   :salute and those who just enjoy the fight  :airplane: :airplane:
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: CAP1 on November 02, 2012, 04:36:05 PM
when it comes down to it, the plane set is the best in mw.
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Oldman731 on November 03, 2012, 01:03:55 AM
when it comes down to it, the plane set is the best in mw.


What he means to say is that the MW plane set is the best in AH.  I agree, it's very well balanced, far more challenging than the LW hotrods (yet not as much of a challenge as the EW plane set, woe, woe).

I wander in there occasionally and have never been disappointed by the fights.  MA standards are MA standards, so one expects the occasional HO, vultch and gang-fest, but it's always been a far cry from what I see when I venture into the LW arena.  Most of the pilots are above average, as someone mentioned, and the smaller number of people allows you to get to know others on the text buffer.

- oldman
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: CAP1 on November 03, 2012, 08:08:20 AM

What he means to say is that the MW plane set is the best in AH.  I agree, it's very well balanced, far more challenging than the LW hotrods (yet not as much of a challenge as the EW plane set, woe, woe).

I wander in there occasionally and have never been disappointed by the fights.  MA standards are MA standards, so one expects the occasional HO, vultch and gang-fest, but it's always been a far cry from what I see when I venture into the LW arena.  Most of the pilots are above average, as someone mentioned, and the smaller number of people allows you to get to know others on the text buffer.

- oldman

 i actually miss flying early war.....but there's never anyone in there.
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: HawkerMKII on November 03, 2012, 08:11:07 AM
:rolleyes:
Midwar is good for nothing other than getting easy perks.

This is one reason that HT needs to make perk points separate in each arena :salute
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: SlipKnt on November 03, 2012, 11:21:44 AM
This is one reason that HT needs to make perk points separate in each arena :salute

I think this would be great!  I prefer to fly EW and MW planes in LW because of this very reason.  Fly the higher ENY planes in LW and get fighter perks faster so I can lose them in a Me262.  I do it often (both parts).

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: vafiii on November 03, 2012, 01:03:47 PM
Why not close down EW and MW arenas and have one WW2 arena? Maybe also have a WW1 special event, something to attract some interest in that arena. WW1 arena is a nice change of pace every once in a while when there's some people in there.
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Midway on November 04, 2012, 09:52:03 AM
Midwar :headscratch:

Did you hit a wrong key actually want to discuss ---->  Midway! <---- :O

 :D :bolt:
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: ImADot on November 04, 2012, 10:18:45 AM
Why not close down EW and MW arenas and have one WW2 arena?

Why? Just choose to go there or not. Why limit a player's choice?
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Max on November 04, 2012, 03:58:25 PM
Midwar :headscratch:

Did you hit a wrong key actually want to discuss ---->  Midway! <---- :O

 :D :bolt:

No.
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: WWhiskey on November 04, 2012, 08:59:18 PM
Why not close down EW and MW arenas and have one WW2 arena? Maybe also have a WW1 special event, something to attract some interest in that arena. WW1 arena is a nice change of pace every once in a while when there's some people in there.
well,, tonight for example, with over 300 players in mid war might be one good example of why we wouldn't want to see it closed
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: JimmyD3 on November 04, 2012, 09:51:53 PM
well,, tonight for example, with over 300 players in mid war might be one good example of why we wouldn't want to see it closed

Good point WWhiskey! Hope your doing okay!   :salute

See at the next battle! :aok
Title: Re: Midwar
Post by: Nathan60 on November 04, 2012, 10:08:16 PM
Why is this even an issue? Why close down the LW if you want a change of pace go to MW or EW or AVA I suggest the AVA, Thursdays are a good night. Low pop? Well if more people get in there more wil come.