Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Krusty on November 01, 2012, 02:32:34 PM
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Stop the "lose all flight surfaces" feature. That's my wish. Plenty of planes stiffen up or lose control authority... this is the only one that sheds all instantly at the same time. It's not realistic and wan't like this historically.
So my wish is to stop this. Make it stiffen up, make it lock up, whatever, but leave them ON, so that (like every other plane in the game) you can recover once you slow down.
That is my wish.
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I agree.....even though that has happened to me only a couple times.
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Can the Mosquito Mk VI also get this treatment so it stops losing control surfaces once you pass 480mph?
The Mosquito Mk VI has the same structure as the Mosquito Mk XVI which doesn't lose control surfaces.
I have not read of either the Ki-84 or Mosquito shedding elevators/ailerons/rudders due to overspeed.
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Does the E6B computer display speed in knots or miles per hour?
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mph, always. No knots in AH.
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Thank you.
In that case I have also found no mention whatsoever of a VnE due to this or reports of detaching surfaces through poor manufacture or materials in the literature (as is the case with the poor heat treatment of landing gear, say). I have found one snippet which makes the AH random detachment 'feature' look a bit odd and random:-
"Flight trials confirmed the excellent performance and flying qualities of the new fighter but also revealed a lot of its imperfections. First of all, some characteristics - although better than those of the aircraft's predecessors - were far from what the Koko Hombu was expecting. The Ki-84 attained a maximum speed of 624 km/h at 6500 m, a ceiling of 12,400 m, and climbed to 5000 m in 6 minutes 26 seconds. One of the pre-production machines (no. 04) with a take-off weight of 3794 kg piloted by a Doi-kin Rikugun Kokusho pilot. Shoi Shiro Funahashi. managed to attain a speed of 631 km/h at an altitude of 6120 m, climbing to 5000 m in 5 minutes 54 seconds, but that was all it was capable of.
When pulled into a dive, the fighter accelerated to a speed of 798 km/h. but oxygen system trouble forced the pilot to interrupt this trial. In September 1943. during trials at the Koku Shinsobu, the Ki-84 was confronted in a combat simulation with the the Ki-44 and a German Focke-Wulf Fw 190A-5 brought to Japan in the summer of that year onboard a submarine. At the stick of the Ki-84 was another excellent IJAAF pilot. Shoso Yasuhiko Kuroe ace with 30 victories to his score — all victories according to [13]). The simulation confirmed the Ki-84's much greater agility than its opponents, although it also revealed that it was somewhat inferior to the German aircraft in terms of maximum speed and, more importantly, general behavior in the dive." - Leszek A. Wieliczko, Nakajima Ki-84 Hayate.
798 km/h = 496 mph and they we clearly not afraid to push it further. But in my experience in Aces High one (random) set of your control surfaces detach if you exceed 480 mph and above 450 mph if you make anything but the most gentle of inputs.
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Can the Mosquito Mk VI also get this treatment so it stops losing control surfaces once you pass 480mph?
The Mosquito Mk VI has the same structure as the Mosquito Mk XVI which doesn't lose control surfaces.
I have not read of either the Ki-84 or Mosquito shedding elevators/ailerons/rudders due to overspeed.
I have gotten the Mossie up to 500+ and recovered, but you put your hands in your lap and hope you come out at the bottom
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I vote for which ever is historically accurate.
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mph, always. No knots in AH.
Lot's of nuts in AH.........................OH HHHHHHHHHH you said knots :banana:
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Lot's of nuts in AH.........................OH HHHHHHHHHH you said knots :banana:
I should have expected such a pun from a fellow Colorad'an :lol
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Interestingly enough - out of three high speed dives I compressed twice without buffet and tore off my control surfaces once in my Mossie VI... normally it's control surfaces every time! It would be nice to keep surfaces, but hay ho.
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I should have expected such a pun from a fellow Colorad'an :lol
Where at?
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Stop the "lose all flight surfaces" feature. That's my wish. Plenty of planes stiffen up or lose control authority... this is the only one that sheds all instantly at the same time. It's not realistic and wan't like this historically.
So my wish is to stop this. Make it stiffen up, make it lock up, whatever, but leave them ON, so that (like every other plane in the game) you can recover once you slow down.
That is my wish.
How much better do you need a plane to be? Geeze leave it with at least 1 flaw :aok
JUGgler
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How much better do you need a plane to be? Geeze leave it with at least 1 flaw :aok
JUGgler
Hmm, I hate to bash on one of my top 5 favorite planes, but I agree. Ki-84 is just too awesome, right behind the -4 and Spit16. Even if it unrealistic, it's not that bad of a flaw to make it bad.
On a side note, drop the ENY to 10 or 15 at least.
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So we should make the spit burst into flames randomly every 10 seconds, then? Right? Because it's so good we need to make it worse regardless of how the real thing was?
Your logic doesn't hold any water at all.
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So we should make the spit burst into flames randomly every 10 seconds, then? Right? Because it's so good we need to make it worse regardless of how the real thing was?
Your logic doesn't hold any water at all.
I agree with this. The a/c should be as historically accurate as possible. As for ENY, should be forgotten altogether.
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So we should make the spit burst into flames randomly every 10 seconds, then? Right? Because it's so good we need to make it worse regardless of how the real thing was?
Your logic doesn't hold any water at all.
Never said I don't agree with the change, just saying its not really needed. Same way Spits bursting into flames every 10 secs is not needed. :)
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No, by your own logic, spits bursting into fire IS needed, because random loss of every control you have is necessary on the Ki?
Now you're contradicting yourself.
Come on, let's not make snide comments like that on an honest thread. It's an issue that really needs fixing.
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I have many many sorties in the KI I have gotten it a tad over 500 and not lost anything....when they did come off it was the elevators....which means no control at all haha...but hey I still enjoy flying it.....she is a great bird, a real fighting machine.
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No, by your own logic, spits bursting into fire IS needed, because random loss of every control you have is necessary on the Ki?
Now you're contradicting yourself.
Come on, let's not make snide comments like that on an honest thread. It's an issue that really needs fixing.
Ive looked over this thread 3 times and can't seem to find where titanic mention spits bursting in to flames! :huh
Krusty logic I guess :huh
Krusty I think you're 7 cans short of being a 12 pack!
just saying :aok
JUGgler
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Ive looked over this thread 3 times and can't seem to find where titanic mention spits bursting in to flames! :huh
Krusty logic I guess :huh
Krusty I think you're 7 cans short of being a 12 pack!
just saying :aok
JUGgler
:bhead
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Where at?
Im gonna say Denver area :noid
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Im originaly from MS. So what ya saying :O
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:bhead
Ignore the troll. It will save you a headache against that brick wall.
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Im gonna say Denver area :noid
Well that cover alot of ground(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/9228/denvermap.jpg)