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Title: An Experiment...
Post by: EagleDNY on November 04, 2012, 09:35:10 PM
I had a lot of fun tonite with LW arena being down.   A lot of good fights, with people flying things that they wouldn't be using in LW.

My wish is that we try an experiment.   We start a tour out in 1940 - early war plane set.   Each day, we advance the calendar by three months and introduce the aircraft that were available at that time. 

Day 1: January 1940
Day 2: April 1940
Day 3: July 1940
Day 4: October 1940
Day 5: January 1941
Day 6: April 1941
Day 7: July 1941
Day 8: October 1941
Day 9: January 1942
Day 10: April 1942
Day 11: July 1942
Day 12: October 1942
Day 13: January 1943
Day 14: April 1943
Day 15: July 1943
Day 16: October 1943
Day 17: January 1944
Day 18: April 1944
Day 19: July 1944
Day 20: October 1944
Day 21: January 1945
Day 22-30: April 1945 and Later

So basically what you get over the course of a month long Tour is a constantly shifting set of available planes for the first 3 weeks, with the last week being the full late war planeset. 

Now I know everybody has their favorite LW ride, and it is possible the world may actually come to an end if you can't take up a P-51D, Spit XVI, or LA-7.  However I think a LOT of people had a lot of fun tonite taking up midwar rides, and this experiment preserves all the furballing action and gives us some VARIETY for a change.

$.02

 

 

Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: ImADot on November 04, 2012, 09:47:56 PM
And so why not just bring lots of friends and visit those of us who long ago discovered this fun in MW and EW?
Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: Nathan60 on November 04, 2012, 09:57:15 PM
Oh noees dont let Ice pac see this! We ran somehting like this for him for  aweek he ditched us  :mad:
Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: gyrene81 on November 05, 2012, 10:01:15 AM
what you're asking for is a rolling plane set...won't happen in the main arena, especially the late war. the majority of the players don't like forced limitations.
Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: Pand on November 05, 2012, 10:06:22 AM
Love the idea, but too many whiners for HTC to implement.
Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 05, 2012, 01:51:59 PM
I had a lot of fun tonite with LW arena being down.   A lot of good fights, with people flying things that they wouldn't be using in LW.

My wish is that we try an experiment.   We start a tour out in 1940 - early war plane set.   Each day, we advance the calendar by three months and introduce the aircraft that were available at that time. 

Day 1: January 1940
Day 2: April 1940
Day 3: July 1940
Day 4: October 1940
Day 5: January 1941
Day 6: April 1941
Day 7: July 1941
Day 8: October 1941
Day 9: January 1942
Day 10: April 1942
Day 11: July 1942
Day 12: October 1942
Day 13: January 1943
Day 14: April 1943
Day 15: July 1943
Day 16: October 1943
Day 17: January 1944
Day 18: April 1944
Day 19: July 1944
Day 20: October 1944
Day 21: January 1945
Day 22-30: April 1945 and Later

So basically what you get over the course of a month long Tour is a constantly shifting set of available planes for the first 3 weeks, with the last week being the full late war planeset. 

Now I know everybody has their favorite LW ride, and it is possible the world may actually come to an end if you can't take up a P-51D, Spit XVI, or LA-7.  However I think a LOT of people had a lot of fun tonite taking up midwar rides, and this experiment preserves all the furballing action and gives us some VARIETY for a change.

$.02


So people that like to fly late war birds wouldn't be able to fly 3-4 their plane 2-3 weeks into the tour?  If people can't fly the plane they want to fly, they won't fly at all and in most cases will eventually quit.

ack-ack
Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: EagleDNY on November 05, 2012, 02:16:46 PM
So people that like to fly late war birds wouldn't be able to fly 3-4 their plane 2-3 weeks into the tour?  If people can't fly the plane they want to fly, they won't fly at all and in most cases will eventually quit.

ack-ack

Given the numbers that we saw in MW last night, I'm not sure that would be the case.  I saw a lot of 51D drivers having a lot of fun in the 51B, and we had plenty of PJ drivers running around as well - I'm sure these are the folks that would be running away in 51Ds and laying waste to bases in P38Ls if LW was open.  We regularly get big numbers in FSO, flying things that nobody in their right mind would take out in the LW arena.  The reason that works is that the planesets are balanced - you don't have to worry about your Spit I or 109E4 suddenly getting blasted apart by an La-7. 

I suppose another option would be to fold EW and MW into a single arena and try the rolling planeset idea on that - with only 2 arenas open (LW and RP) maybe we would get enough numbers in the rolling planeset arena to make it worthwhile.  I think it goes a long way towards making a more dynamic arena - and with all the WW2 aviation history geeks we have here, I can forsee a continual "discussion" (argument) about what is the best plane available at any given time. 

I think it is worth a try - the LW arena gets a bit stale after a while. 

$.02



 
Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: ImADot on November 05, 2012, 02:18:42 PM
Given the numbers that we saw in MW last night, I'm not sure that would be the case.  I saw a lot of 51D drivers having a lot of fun in the 51B, and we had plenty of PJ drivers running around as well - I'm sure these are the folks that would be running away in 51Ds and laying waste to bases in P38Ls if LW was open.  We regularly get big numbers in FSO, flying things that nobody in their right mind would take out in the LW arena.  The reason that works is that the planesets are balanced - you don't have to worry about your Spit I or 109E4 suddenly getting blasted apart by an La-7. 

I suppose another option would be to fold EW and MW into a single arena and try the rolling planeset idea on that - with only 2 arenas open (LW and RP) maybe we would get enough numbers in the rolling planeset arena to make it worthwhile.  I think it goes a long way towards making a more dynamic arena - and with all the WW2 aviation history geeks we have here, I can forsee a continual "discussion" (argument) about what is the best plane available at any given time. 

I think it is worth a try - the LW arena gets a bit stale after a while. 

$.02



 

Close down LW.  :devil
Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: TWC_Angel on November 05, 2012, 02:24:14 PM
Close down LW.  :devil

+1  :aok
Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: Bino on November 05, 2012, 02:50:37 PM
Please don't. The "rolling plane set" was a dismal failure back in WarBirds, for a variety of reasons, including, but not limited to:

1.) the ever-rising chorus of weeping and wailing to the effect that folks simply did not like being denied their favorite ride
2.) nit-picking by history grognards decrying the lack of all the correct sub-variants (guilty as charged)
3.) complaints about the details of how the rolling plane set was written

etcetera, etcetera, etcetera...

It was *ugly*.   :rolleyes:

Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: Rino on November 05, 2012, 03:22:21 PM
Close down LW.  :devil

     Or......don't fly there?
Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: Wiley on November 05, 2012, 03:30:45 PM
     Or......don't fly there?
Crazy talk.

I sure wish the RPS guys would all band together and make a custom arena to their liking, all fly in it together, and be happy with their RPS.  Why does this not happen?  I doubt the numbers cap on a custom arena would be a factor for them.

Wiley.
Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: chaser on November 05, 2012, 05:41:09 PM
This is a dumb idea. I would quit if I couldn't log on and up an M18 whenever I wanted.


Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: Lusche on November 05, 2012, 05:54:36 PM
Given the numbers that we saw in MW last night, I'm not sure that would be the case.
 

It was a one time thing for a few hours, everybody knew that LW was just kaputt. Notice how quick everybody was back in LW after that arena came back up again.If it were all about "I play LW only because everybody is there", it would have happened that fast ;)
The reception would quite different if people (who do play only for a few hours each month for the most part) had to face EW or MW planesets only each time they are logging in.
Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: Lab Rat 3947 on November 06, 2012, 05:04:13 PM
It would be an interesting experiment.
It wouldn't bother me to try it since I only fly P38s. So for me to start with the G then move to J and end with L would be OK.
But then I know that I'm in a very tiny minority that only flies one plane.
I could see where this would cause people to leave AH.    :bolt:
And that would be very bad end result for all of us.    :cry
So I would vote no on this one.    :old:

Butch
LtngRydr
Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: DMGOD on November 06, 2012, 06:05:43 PM
This is a dumb idea. I would quit if I couldn't log on and up an M18 whenever I wanted.




well with eny sometimes you are unable to up the m18
guess you will be quitting now
Bye bye
Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: icepac on November 07, 2012, 01:11:04 PM
Oh noees dont let Ice pac see this! We ran somehting like this for him for  aweek he ditched us  :mad:


I had a choice.........

Fly the A vs A arena with rolling planeset or............

(http://www.performancepowerracing.com/wp-content/gallery/ford-gt-world-record-283mph/74g9407.jpg)

It wasn't a tough choice.
Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: guncrasher on November 07, 2012, 02:43:50 PM
Given the numbers that we saw in MW last night, I'm not sure that would be the case.  I saw a lot of 51D drivers having a lot of fun in the 51B, and we had plenty of PJ drivers running around as well - I'm sure these are the folks that would be running away in 51Ds and laying waste to bases in P38Ls if LW was open.  We regularly get big numbers in FSO, flying things that nobody in their right mind would take out in the LW arena.  The reason that works is that the planesets are balanced - you don't have to worry about your Spit I or 109E4 suddenly getting blasted apart by an La-7. 

I suppose another option would be to fold EW and MW into a single arena and try the rolling planeset idea on that - with only 2 arenas open (LW and RP) maybe we would get enough numbers in the rolling planeset arena to make it worthwhile.  I think it goes a long way towards making a more dynamic arena - and with all the WW2 aviation history geeks we have here, I can forsee a continual "discussion" (argument) about what is the best plane available at any given time. 

I think it is worth a try - the LW arena gets a bit stale after a while. 

$.02



 

that was a one time only.   I logged in saw the ma closed waited a bit then logged off. and went to play wot.   if I wanted to play. ew or mw I. know which button to push.


semp
Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: tuton25 on November 07, 2012, 04:13:19 PM
I think the reaction would be less than expected. If the LW remained avalable and the RPS replaces the early and mid war arenas that there would be little grumbleing from the die hard late war pilots
Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 07, 2012, 04:20:05 PM
I think the reaction would be less than expected. If the LW remained avalable and the RPS replaces the early and mid war arenas that there would be little grumbleing from the die hard late war pilots

You'll just have an RPS arena with just as much, if not less than a population of the current EW and MW arenas. 

ack-ack
Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: icepac on November 07, 2012, 05:29:28 PM
Empty is empty
Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: kvuo75 on November 07, 2012, 07:43:08 PM
I think the reaction would be less than expected. If the LW remained avalable and the RPS replaces the early and mid war arenas that there would be little grumbleing from the die hard late war pilots

there would be grumbling from the EW and MW weirdoes.
Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: transatlanticflight on November 11, 2012, 08:04:32 AM
If I understand the goal of rolling plane set, it is to get people to try a different kind of game play. I like the way this thread is thinking...

However, what I'm hearing in this thread is that rolling plane set alone is not enough to break the death grip that LW has on AH. And it is important when you want to introduce change that you make it an addition instead of a take away. Given the poor attendance of most arenas...a new arena should be able to be added without taxing the servers. If the concept for the arena was good it would build numbers on it's own merit.

I think there are many factors that go into the popularity of LW and to create something that can rival it will take a lot of critical thinking and input from players. I would like you guys to consider adding your valuable comments to a new thread..."Life for AH after the LW." I'm looking for the primary factors that make the LW the place to be...with the goal of interpreting the results to develop a new arena concept.
Title: Re: An Experiment...
Post by: The Fugitive on November 11, 2012, 09:08:55 AM
Adding another arena will just give you another empty arena. The AvA arena while not running a true RPS they do have a limited plane set and you can see how popular that arena is.