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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: ebfd11 on November 06, 2012, 09:16:55 PM
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Ok for the last 7 days I have been running back and forth between pa and NYC and NJ, and I would say they are seriously resilient. I can gladly say I have been trying to do my part to help out. Even though the areas I have been delivering to have little to nothing and seriously damaged the people still have a great attitude when they we arrive with support for them.
Case in point, I was delivering some wire needed to the western portion of Long Island, when I was finished a young lady in her latter years came up and gave me a couple loaves of home made chocolate macadamia cheesecake bread. Now she said they had gotten power the previous day and she was trying to thank all of the people that helped in one way or the other.
Down in NJ I was delivering some water and needed groceries. Now mind you I had all I need on the truck but I was being given stuff from people that they needed. I guess it was their way of saying "thank-you". Now mind you I was not appreciative of the gesture but I just couldn't take what they needed.
The people of NYC and NJ have gone through a lot in the last week and they are looking at more bad weather headed their way. So please keep them in your prayers and remember they may be down but they are recovering and they will be back to the fighting people they were.
So basically my tirade is is to say, I am glad that I live in an area where neighbors help neighbors.
:salute NYC and NJ. And thank you for letting me do my part, even as little as I did.
LawnDart
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actually, the "thank you" belongs to people like you sir.
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Cap I appreciate that but I just wanted to point out that I am a small fish in a big pond and the people there are some of the most endearing people I have met. You have people that came in from Florida, South Carolina, heck there were crews from California and Quebec Canada. The line workers have their work cut out for them. I think one guy said he expects to be there until next week.
Kudos also need to go out to NYSP and NJSP, yes you saw it first here a trucker bowing down to LEO. If it wasn't for their cooperation the loads coming in would be slowed down to a crawl. Myself and 7 others from our company have been running overweight and long on hours. When we first started doing this we were under the assumption it was for money. After we did the first load we all said "F" the money and we have been doing this due to the fact "it's the right thing to do"
I am only one of many people here doing their part. The company asked us if we wanted a change of routes to get away from the registration and I volunteered. Ok I go from NJ and NYC to WV.. Lol out of the frying pan onto the fire. But I will not change a thing.
I will be safe and not do any thing stupid, like post on the AH bb when I am tired and ramble on about ... Ok where did I leave off..
Btw a big salute to all the linemen who traveled so far just to help out.
Georgia power and electric
California Edison
Quebec electic co-op
South Carolina electric
Public Service of NH
And many others who sent crews in.
LawnDart
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There are a lot of thankful people down there for sure. Sadly, I have inlaws that are on utility trucks from down south that are not working in NJ because they were turned away for being non union. Instead they are working outside of NJ, and will refuse to go back there if ordered. Pretty freaking sad if you ask me that a state that begs for help turns it away if it is not union.
Kudos to you for helping out ebf, it sounds as though you are fighting the good fight.
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There are a lot of thankful people down there for sure. Sadly, I have inlaws that are on utility trucks from down south that are not working in NJ because they were turned away for being non union. Instead they are working outside of NJ, and will refuse to go back there if ordered. Pretty freaking sad if you ask me that a state that begs for help turns it away if it is not union.
Kudos to you for helping out ebf, it sounds as though you are fighting the good fight.
I got called yesterday about that by an owner down in Alabama who sent guys up, and ya know what I told him? Call the municipalities to ask if they want to work with you before you commit yr trucks. It's naive to think ou will pull that off anywhere on the eastern seaboard non union, especially NY,NJ or CT and especially for major infrastructure work.
Btw, the staging area for CT is 2 miles from me.ill post some shots from them tomorrow. Furthest I saw was Missouri.
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You're doing a great service there LD :salute
I saw on the news this evening where gowlgers were riding around there in NYC/Stanton Island quoting those home owners prices like $3,000 to just go in and rip out the sheetrock & insulation so they can rennovate...
so the military redirected the USS Wasp ?? and an US Marine battalion? or Platoon? from Camp Lejeune, down here in NC to head to NYC instead of Afghanistan.....
they showed where something like 7 or 8 Marines went in and totally demoed a home of its sheetrock and insulation in right at or under an hours time..... not the 1 1/2 to 3 days the gowlgers were quoting these people needing help.... and they did it for nothing ( meaning the US Marines are not charging for this "Nation Building" work ! They are reported to be there until no longer need, they fly in in helo's each morning then return to the Wasp in the evening
best news story I have heard in a good while
TC
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I got called yesterday about that by an owner down in Alabama who sent guys up, and ya know what I told him? Call the municipalities to ask if they want to work with you before you commit yr trucks. It's naive to think ou will pull that off anywhere on the eastern seaboard non union, especially NY,NJ or CT and especially for major infrastructure work.
It is pretty sick that in a disaster that has 100's of thousands without power in the cold that unions dictate who can and can not work to restore that power. This is yet one more highlight in the folly that is most of the unions of today.
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It is pretty sick that in a disaster that has 100's of thousands without power in the cold that unions dictate who can and can not work to restore that power. This is yet one more highlight in the folly that is most of the unions of today.
This.
Unions once helped their members by providing a voice when they would not be heard, safety when none cared, but now they collect dues and profits. Sad indeed.
I should also note, they are showing more resilience than expected. We are used to frequent power ouitages up here, not this long of course, but these people in NYC /NJ are not.
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Cap I appreciate that but I just wanted to point out that I am a small fish in a big pond and the people there are some of the most endearing people I have met. You have people that came in from Florida, South Carolina, heck there were crews from California and Quebec Canada. The line workers have their work cut out for them. I think one guy said he expects to be there until next week.
Kudos also need to go out to NYSP and NJSP, yes you saw it first here a trucker bowing down to LEO. If it wasn't for their cooperation the loads coming in would be slowed down to a crawl. Myself and 7 others from our company have been running overweight and long on hours. When we first started doing this we were under the assumption it was for money. After we did the first load we all said "F" the money and we have been doing this due to the fact "it's the right thing to do"
I am only one of many people here doing their part. The company asked us if we wanted a change of routes to get away from the registration and I volunteered. Ok I go from NJ and NYC to WV.. Lol out of the frying pan onto the fire. But I will not change a thing.
I will be safe and not do any thing stupid, like post on the AH bb when I am tired and ramble on about ... Ok where did I leave off..
Btw a big salute to all the linemen who traveled so far just to help out.
Georgia power and electric
California Edison
Quebec electic co-op
South Carolina electric
Public Service of NH
And many others who sent crews in.
LawnDart
We got a lot of crews out there with Edison, part of that thanks goes to the Air Force and those who cleared the red tape involved, they flew in all the crews and their heavy equipment from the west coast direct.
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Ill be over there next week adjusting claims in the Atlantic Highlands area, and half the week on LBI/Waretown area.
I was up in the Highlands this weekend helping a couple of friends out.......looking at all the folks i met while i was up there, the phrase "Tough Old Salts" comes to mind. Good people no doubt.
If there are any people overthere, and over here that should be recognised, its the Linemen and Linewomen......I cant say enough good things about those folks stopping their lives to come up here and help get us a portion of our sanity back
<S> Lawn, you were a big part in that.....a bunch of little fish, all make one big school of fish :salute
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I got to talk to my Uncle who is working on Staten Island for about a minute today. He said it's like a war zone and there is a Nor'easter on the way.
He said he'll check back in in a few days.
So, what happens when some old retired union man freezes to death because his brothers screwed him?
Just wondering.
:headscratch:
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Gas is available and without lines finally up in Valhalla which is 40 minutes north of NYC. Didnt have any issues with Sandy even this close to the city. Just wind gusts, some trees down and power out everywhere surrounding New York Medical College but the school still had power so I had no issues.
Solid 3-5" of snow now on the ground and I am loving it. Love snow. Just hopefully NYC isnt in complete shambles as I need to be in the city on Saturday at the New York Academy of Medicine for a meeting. Crossing fingers that the trains and subways stay up and power is still up. :uhoh
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Gas is available and without lines finally up in Valhalla which is 40 minutes north of NYC. Didnt have any issues with Sandy even this close to the city. Just wind gusts, some trees down and power out everywhere surrounding New York Medical College but the school still had power so I had no issues.
Solid 3-5" of snow now on the ground and I am loving it. Love snow. Just hopefully NYC isnt in complete shambles as I need to be in the city on Saturday at the New York Academy of Medicine for a meeting. Crossing fingers that the trains and subways stay up and power is still up. :uhoh
we're just getting a winter mix down here in cherry hill nj area....they did say we may wake up to 3-5" though.
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(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/noreaster.jpg)
Thanks, LD!!
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:rofl
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You know those "End of World" movies where it's a free for all in a city or town? Everyone out for themselves?
Psychologists say it's just the opposite in real life.....humanity tends to come together and support each other. So that question about "Are children born inherently evil and taught goodness or born inherently good and taught evil" is irrevelent. We have a natural instinct to help each other, help unknown souls, in times of trouble.
:salute
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We see it happen all the time down here with the hurricanes and tornadoes that we get throughout the south. Also I have never seen utility trucks from up in the Northeast coming down to help us out when we have major storms that completely destroy towns and parts of the coast. I could be wrong in my last statement but I have been out working in the aftermath of every major storm in the last 10 years through out the southeastern US and have only seen guys like LD who want to do it for the right reasons.
<S> LD!
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After Katrina, 52 crews from our area (long Island) went down to Mississippi.. They were gone for over three weeks.
We came through Sandy without any serious issues. Some slats blew off our fence, and a shingle came adrift, that was quickly nailed back on. Never lost power. Many family and friends did lose power, and some had their home flooded. We opened out home up to them for hot showers and meals. Our spare bedroom was usually occupied through Tuesday.
Yesterday, the nor'easter hit. The weather guessers predicted rain. We got 8" of wet, heavy snow instead. at 1:58 AM, a tree lost a big limb and brought down a power line. We lost power. I was outside this morning clearing the snow from the driveway when two bucket trucks rolled by. They were from a local private company. They found the problem and we had power on by 10:45 AM. Some teenagers spent the afternoon after school shoveling out driveways of seniors, and refused payment for their effort.
My brother is President of his volunteer fire department. They set up their banquet room above the firehouse with cots. They have a big kitchen, and the volunteers have been cooking breakfast, lunch and dinner for line crews and residents. Crews can stop by for a hot shower, hot meal and a nap. Two crews from Nova Scotia have set up there as the hotels are filled. Anyone without power can stop by for a hot meal. About 100 town residents have been eating and showering there. The local laundry-mat is letting anyone without electricity wash and dry their clothes for free. A local power equipment shop is repairing generators at no charge. Two have been beyond repair, and the owner loaned the homeowners a rebuilt unit. We, along with dozens of others have donated cash and groceries to the fire dept., to help them feed the crews and residents. Tonight, several of us made a run to the nearest BJs Club with power and picked up enough milk, coffee, eggs, sausage, bacon and pancake mix to carry them through the next two day's breakfasts. The fridges were full, so we stored the perishables outside in a storage shed. It will be more than cold enough for everything to keep. The firemen have been collecting coats, blankets, and food for several days. Tomorrow, they will caravan a group of SUVs and vans to the Breezy Point Volunteer Fire Dept. You may have heard that over 100 homes burned to the ground in Breezy Point during the hurricane. Some of those families are being housed at their fire department. They've lost everything, including their clothing. This will help alleviate their discomfort a little. A local business owner donated 20 new winter coats in child sizes. The sense of community is strong here. As individuals we cannot do very much to offset the damage and misery. However, as a community, we can make a measurable difference. My brothers and I will be at the firehouse bright and early Sunday morning to help cook breakfast. Everyone's efforts are adding up. The number of folks coming by the firehouse to eat or shower has been cut more than in half. Things are improving, but there's still 1,100 families in or around the town without power. The schools reopened today, which means the kids whose homes are cold and dark can spend the day in warmth and have a hot meal.
There's much on the local news about how bad things are. Nonetheless, there's a lot of good happening too.... People caring for their neighbors.
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(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/noreaster.jpg)
Thanks, LD!!
hey....what did you do to be able to mount your winch on the front? mine's got a piece of plastic between the front bumper, and the rad. grille.
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Well I am officially off the Fema Loads.. Here is a slight count of what I did..
7 Loads of wire from York, Pa .. 3 Went to Long Island 2 went to staging area west of Jersey Shore one went to Staten Island
3 Loads of groceries to food banks .. 1 each to above
1 load of blankets going to 3 different shelters, 1 on Staten island, 1 on Long island and one in Jersey.
4 loads of water donated by a local food ware house.. (hehehe I weighed 94560 when I left there, Jersey scale house freaked when I got on scale..)
All in all I think I saw Newark Airport, Staten Island, Long Island, and Eastern Jersey more than I wanted to. No offense if you live there.
Funny story
I was making a delivery on Staten Island and my escort, aka, NYPD was guiding me one of the main roads and I needed to make a hard right onto a side street and when I noticed I was going to wipe out someones mail box i stopped. The officer came back and asked me why I had stopped, I showed him and he said.. "That load of water is more precious than a mailbox right now, take it down." So I ran over someones mail box and made it into modern art. I saw him push a car out of my way with his SUV and not even think twice.
A local firefighter came up and asked me how much diesel I had .. knowing i would be able to make it back to where I could get fuel, I donated 50 gallons to him so he could keep a generator running for a local shelter. I informed my work what I did so as I would not get in trouble and their response was ... Why not more??
To me the guys and gals that deserve the thanks are the men and women that were volunteering and helping out where they could, no matter how long they were up.
@ TC here are a couple of articles on what you were talking about..
http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=118415
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/11/08/marines-help-in-staten-island-hurricane-clean-up.html?comp=700001075741&rank=2
Those men and women deserve a hearty :salute and if I saw one today at a bar, restaurant, movie theater their money would be NO GOOD..
So as I get ready for a three day weekend I :salute all who helped in any way, and :pray all that survived will be OK.
Well i am signing off for awihile.. the bed looks so comfy..
LawnDart
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hey....what did you do to be able to mount your winch on the front? mine's got a piece of plastic between the front bumper, and the rad. grille.
The one covering the sway bar with the Jeep logo on it?
I ditched it along with the "flotation devices" or bumper end caps as some call them.
I got one of these: http://www.harborfreight.com/universal-channel-winch-mount-90476.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/universal-channel-winch-mount-90476.html)
I had to modify it a bit so the holes lined up with the ones that attach the bumper to the frame (which I used to hold the plate on) and notched out for the sway bar, but I have a milling machine, so it wasn't too tough. I DID, however, have to notch the front bumper a bit to make clearance for the heads of the bolts that attach the winch to the plate but the bolt pattern on the winch lined up with the plate.
It is a Smittybuilt XRC-8. I think I paid $300 including shipping 3 or 4 years ago and it came with the fairlead.
If you need pics close-up, let me know.
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I hope the people who made millions off the Jersey Shore show give some money to help rebuild it. How did Atlantic City do through the storms?
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Well I am officially off the Fema Loads.. Here is a slight count of what I did..
7 Loads of wire from York, Pa .. 3 Went to Long Island 2 went to staging area west of Jersey Shore one went to Staten Island
3 Loads of groceries to food banks .. 1 each to above
1 load of blankets going to 3 different shelters, 1 on Staten island, 1 on Long island and one in Jersey.
4 loads of water donated by a local food ware house.. (hehehe I weighed 94560 when I left there, Jersey scale house freaked when I got on scale..)
All in all I think I saw Newark Airport, Staten Island, Long Island, and Eastern Jersey more than I wanted to. No offense if you live there.
Funny story
I was making a delivery on Staten Island and my escort, aka, NYPD was guiding me one of the main roads and I needed to make a hard right onto a side street and when I noticed I was going to wipe out someones mail box i stopped. The officer came back and asked me why I had stopped, I showed him and he said.. "That load of water is more precious than a mailbox right now, take it down." So I ran over someones mail box and made it into modern art. I saw him push a car out of my way with his SUV and not even think twice.
A local firefighter came up and asked me how much diesel I had .. knowing i would be able to make it back to where I could get fuel, I donated 50 gallons to him so he could keep a generator running for a local shelter. I informed my work what I did so as I would not get in trouble and their response was ... Why not more??
To me the guys and gals that deserve the thanks are the men and women that were volunteering and helping out where they could, no matter how long they were up.
@ TC here are a couple of articles on what you were talking about..
http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=118415
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/11/08/marines-help-in-staten-island-hurricane-clean-up.html?comp=700001075741&rank=2
Those men and women deserve a hearty :salute and if I saw one today at a bar, restaurant, movie theater their money would be NO GOOD..
So as I get ready for a three day weekend I :salute all who helped in any way, and :pray all that survived will be OK.
Well i am signing off for awihile.. the bed looks so comfy..
LawnDart
Hah, good stories and good work LawnDart, thanks for your contribution. What's the usual weight limits in NJ? They make you unload any of it or did they just turn away? :D
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Also I have never seen utility trucks from up in the Northeast
But they have been there Reschke.
Ive worked with crews from PA, OH, Va, NH, NJ......on and on.
On Katrina and Rita I worked with crews out of OH, Va, and PA on a daily basis.
Here in the Carolinas we have seen crews from up north on several occasions and they were GREATLY appreciated.
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Hah, good stories and good work LawnDart, thanks for your contribution. What's the usual weight limits in NJ? They make you unload any of it or did they just turn away? :D
Any state the legal load limit is 80,000 pounds unles you have a permit, or doing FEMA loads. Trailers were dropped and or unloaded at sight by volunteers, or in the case of the wire, by the linemen needing it.
LawnDart
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I hope the people who made millions off the Jersey Shore show give some money to help rebuild it. How did Atlantic City do through the storms?
ATLANTIC city was under water for awhile, and a friend of mine in the guard was down there rescuing people that listened to the mayor, and stayed.
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ATLANTIC city was under water for awhile, and a friend of mine in the guard was down there rescuing people that listened to the mayor, and stayed.
I don't understand the ignorance of some people....You have to hope for the best but plan for the worst when you have mother nature heading your way. Good on the guard getting there and helping people out.
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I don't understand the ignorance of some people....You have to hope for the best but plan for the worst when you have mother nature heading your way. Good on the guard getting there and helping people out.
yep. it just pisses me off a bit, because people were leaving, till the mayor told them they didn't have to. because of his ignorance, friends of mine had to go into harms way to rescue them.
that said, even though where i'm at didn't get hit too hard, i was ready. had the generator ready with 10 gallons of extra gas, both the truck and jeep tanks full, so i could siphon if necessary, plenty of canned food, and plenty of water. the only thing i lacked was firearms.
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The one covering the sway bar with the Jeep logo on it?
I ditched it along with the "flotation devices" or bumper end caps as some call them.
I got one of these: http://www.harborfreight.com/universal-channel-winch-mount-90476.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/universal-channel-winch-mount-90476.html)
I had to modify it a bit so the holes lined up with the ones that attach the bumper to the frame (which I used to hold the plate on) and notched out for the sway bar, but I have a milling machine, so it wasn't too tough. I DID, however, have to notch the front bumper a bit to make clearance for the heads of the bolts that attach the winch to the plate but the bolt pattern on the winch lined up with the plate.
It is a Smittybuilt XRC-8. I think I paid $300 including shipping 3 or 4 years ago and it came with the fairlead.
If you need pics close-up, let me know.
thanks dude!! that thing looks pretty straight forward! and yes, i mean the plastic above the swaybar. i'm gonna order the plate on monday, and have my warn winch mounted before winter hits.