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Title: ETO & MTO Kill Stencil Question
Post by: Lab Rat 3947 on November 08, 2012, 07:32:34 PM
I have seen pictures of 3 kinds of kill stencils used; the swastika, used two ways and the German cross.
Was this the prerogative of each FG or was there a specific reason ?

Title: Re: ETO & MTO Kill Stencil Question
Post by: Guppy35 on November 08, 2012, 08:00:29 PM
I have seen pictures of 3 kinds of kill stencils used; the swastika, used two ways and the German cross.
Was this the prerogative of each FG or was there a specific reason ?



First one.  Some were actually stickers/decals.  Others were painted.  You can find all kinds of different markings depending on the pilot and crew chief.
Title: Re: ETO & MTO Kill Stencil Question
Post by: Lab Rat 3947 on November 08, 2012, 08:17:10 PM
thanks for the response, Guppy    :old:
Title: Re: ETO & MTO Kill Stencil Question
Post by: Shifty on November 08, 2012, 08:45:26 PM
I always got a kick out of this guy's kill marks. He didn't like anybody.
Plus his Crew Chief was OTAY!

(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/7463/curdes.png)
Title: Re: ETO & MTO Kill Stencil Question
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 08, 2012, 08:57:03 PM
I always got a kick out of this guy's kill marks. He didn't like anybody.
Plus his Crew Chief was OTAY!

(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/7463/curdes.png)

Curde was given a DFC for his shoot down of the C-47 that earned him the American kill flag on his plane.
Quote
"There is one example of a USAAF pilot displaying an American flag on his kill markings - and not only diplaying it proudly, but receiving a DFC for his action! Lt. Louis Curdes of the 4th Fighter Squadron, 3rd Air Commando Group was flying a P-51D on February 10, 1945, during a sweep to Batan Island. He saw a P-51 pilot parachute into the sea, and Curdes circled around him to pinpoint his position to rescuers. While circling, he saw a USAAF C-47 that was preparing to land on the Japanese-held strip on Batan. Unable to veer the C-47 away, Curdes saw only two possibilities - first that it was a Japanese plane using US markings (the DC-3 was made under licence in Japan,) or it was a US plane truly lost. He therefore carefully shot out both engines, causing the plane to land in the sea. All 13 people on board the C-47 were rescued - and they were indeed Americans, including several nurses, one of whom was a girlfriend of Curdes!

The plane had lost its way, and had tried to land in error on the Japanese-held island. Curdes' quick thinking averted the Americans' capture. He later adorned the victory scoreboard on his P-51 with seven German swastikas, one Italian fasces, one Japanese rising sun, and one American flag!"

ack-ack
Title: Re: ETO & MTO Kill Stencil Question
Post by: Lab Rat 3947 on November 08, 2012, 09:27:01 PM
Thanks AKAK, that is great part of history. I'm going to save that to a .doc  :aok
that is definitely a story worth saving    :old:

Butch
Title: Re: ETO & MTO Kill Stencil Question
Post by: Guppy35 on November 08, 2012, 09:43:22 PM
Thanks AKAK, that is great part of history. I'm going to save that to a .doc  :aok
that is definitely a story worth saving    :old:

Butch

Just so you know, Curdes got his German and Italian kills while flying in the MTO in a 38 :)
Title: Re: ETO & MTO Kill Stencil Question
Post by: Shifty on November 08, 2012, 10:17:10 PM
Curde was given a DFC for his shoot down of the C-47 that earned him the American kill flag on his plane.
ack-ack

Yep.  :aok