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Title: I love the A-10...
Post by: MarineUS on November 16, 2012, 01:24:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=llEWrL9ghyg

Not many explosions, but towards the end the A-10 does a couple of passes. Again, no real big explosions for you to see, but I love that flying fart canon.

Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Stalwart on November 16, 2012, 03:28:15 PM
That A-10 is fantastic.   The Air Force keeps trying to retire it.  I say let the Army have it.
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Shifty on November 16, 2012, 04:06:30 PM
I say let the Army have it.

NO!  :D
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: kilo2 on November 16, 2012, 04:17:06 PM
They may be getting rid of the A-10 unit here in Arkansas and giving them unmanned drones. 188th fighter group may get the axe.
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Shifty on November 16, 2012, 05:01:34 PM
They may be getting rid of the A-10 unit here in Arkansas and giving them unmanned drones. 188th fighter group may get the axe.

I was an A-10 Crew Chief for nine years. I hate to see them go.
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Ripsnort on November 16, 2012, 06:54:26 PM
That A-10 is fantastic.   The Air Force keeps trying to retire it.  I say let the Army have it.
It will have a purpose as long as the B-52 does.  :rock
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Buzzard7 on November 16, 2012, 08:23:14 PM
Noticed there wasn't much fire coming from the insurgents after the first couple passes.
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Wildcat1 on November 16, 2012, 08:33:42 PM
wow. I'm glad we have the A-10 and not anyone else.
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: bigsky on November 16, 2012, 08:36:41 PM
wow. I'm glad we have the A-10 and not anyone else.
I thought the ROK still had them.
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: chaser on November 16, 2012, 08:37:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=llEWrL9ghyg

Not many explosions, but towards the end the A-10 does a couple of passes. Again, no real big explosions for you to see, but I love that flying fart canon.



Ahh yes.. It's like the fart of God.
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Shifty on November 16, 2012, 09:07:31 PM
I thought the ROK still had them.

The ROK has never had them. The USAF AFRC and ANG are the only users.
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: titanic3 on November 16, 2012, 09:11:24 PM
Su-25? Besides having a less impressive gun and engines being located near each other, in every other category, it performs better or about the same as the A-10.
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: helbent on November 17, 2012, 05:27:22 AM
A-10, my favorite attack AC of all time.  Get down and get dirty!
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on November 17, 2012, 05:38:47 AM
Su-25? Besides having a less impressive gun and engines being located near each other, in every other category, it performs better or about the same as the A-10.


Shut up.  :rofl
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: titanic3 on November 17, 2012, 07:01:59 AM

Shut up.  :rofl

Eat me. :aok
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: ozrocker on November 17, 2012, 09:05:06 AM
That A-10 is fantastic.   The Air Force keeps trying to retire it.  I say let the Army have it.
Was awesome when I was in, we always had A-10 , Cobra, Kiowa & Apache CAS.

A-10's would come in, open with cannon, drop bombs and immediately roll over to see tgt impact/results.
Gunships would standoff to fire 2.75's, Cannon, M60's (Kiowas) and Hellfires.
All the while, we were dropping 4.2" (107mm) HE & WillyP (White Phosphorus) Mortar rounds on same targets.
Quite the show :aok

                                                                                                                       :cheers:Oz
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Rino on November 17, 2012, 08:45:39 PM
     I went to tech school in the Air Force with a bunch of A-10 fire control mechanics.  I remember them grumbling about having to learn
the F4 weapons control system out at Lowery AFB because the initial A-10s had the same gunsight as the F4 did.  The reason they were
grumbling is that they were forced to learn the Phantom radar system too...even though the A-10 didn't carry a fire control radar.

     I could see their point, in fact I don't think the A-10 ever carried a radar, just IR right?
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Shifty on November 17, 2012, 09:46:09 PM
No radar while I was on em Rino. My time with the A-10 ended in 1992, I have no idea what system upgrades they've gone through since then.
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Puma44 on November 18, 2012, 11:48:39 AM
Yeah, Rino, as Shifty said, no radar.  No room for it with that big honking gun in the nose.

(http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac270/puma44/a4c62eaca97a6abb7cbcc8bac1d549c6.jpg)

By the way, where did you crew F-4s?


Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: flight17 on November 18, 2012, 09:37:45 PM
Su-25? Besides having a less impressive gun and engines being located near each other, in every other category, it performs better or about the same as the A-10.
The whole point of the a-10 though is the gun...
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: titanic3 on November 18, 2012, 09:58:00 PM
The whole point of the a-10 though is the gun...

A missile works just as good if not better.  :) Though I'm not hating on the gun, no one can.
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Rino on November 19, 2012, 12:00:02 AM
Yeah, Rino, as Shifty said, no radar.  No room for it with that big honking gun in the nose.

(http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac270/puma44/a4c62eaca97a6abb7cbcc8bac1d549c6.jpg)

By the way, where did you crew F-4s?




     What my office used to look like  :D
(http://www.afwing.com/intro/f4/book/f4e%20radar.JPG)

     Moody AFB, Valdosta Ga.  347th TFW  I worked the pointy end, Weapons Control System Mechanic
Btw, they could have stuffed a radar into that Warthog if they really wanted to, but the mission profile it flies
really doesn't suit a radar setup well.  OKay, that and I virtually promise every time you used the gun you'd
need to fix all the  radar stuff that broke from the vibration.

     Heck we almost killed one of our own F4s with a 4 barreled pod version of the GAU-8.  The muzzle blast from
the gun shook loose a bunch of hydraulic lines and we had to punch the pod and ditch it on the wingtanks.  Ouch.  :eek:
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Rino on November 19, 2012, 12:02:32 AM
A missile works just as good if not better.  :) Though I'm not hating on the gun, no one can.

     Guns are alot cheaper to use and usually more reliable though.  Heck the nickname of the older AIM-7 Sparrows used
to be the "Great White Hope"  :D
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Puma44 on November 19, 2012, 01:46:00 AM
     What my office used to look like  :D
(http://www.afwing.com/intro/f4/book/f4e%20radar.JPG)

     Moody AFB, Valdosta Ga.  347th TFW  I worked the pointy end, Weapons Control System Mechanic
Btw, they could have stuffed a radar into that Warthog if they really wanted to, but the mission profile it fliesn
really doesn't suit a radar setup well.  OKay, that and I virtually promise every time you used the gun you'd
need to fix all the  radar stuff that broke from the vibration.

     Heck we almost killed one of our own F4s with a 4 barreled pod version of the GAU-8.  The muzzle blast from
the gun shook loose a bunch of hydraulic lines and we had to punch the pod and ditch it on the wingtanks.  Ouch.  :eek:

When were you at Moody?  I was there 84-87 in the 70th.

Shootin' the gun?  Ya baby!
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: B3YT on November 19, 2012, 06:05:40 AM
the cannon is the most effective weapon against a tank division , especially when they are moving down roads .  you can  hit 1 tank with a missile   or you can strafe the entire lot  in one pass .  2 A10's can decimate an entire tank column in 1 maybe 2 passes that would take  2 minutes  flying at right angles to each other . 
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Rino on November 19, 2012, 12:58:13 PM
When were you at Moody?  I was there 84-87 in the 70th.

Shootin' the gun?  Ya baby!

     I left in October 84...so close.  I was in the 339th AMU, which got renamed to the 69th AMU in 83. 
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: MarineUS on November 19, 2012, 09:38:04 PM
I grew up and live near Valdosta :P
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Shifty on November 20, 2012, 06:01:59 AM
I was stationed there as well 93-94. Moody was my last assignment.
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Grayeagle on November 20, 2012, 07:55:29 AM
LOL .. missile as effective as gun :)

Apples and Oranges.

If yer lookin at a single target with range in miles, yes ..missile may be a good option, especially if target is above you.

If yer screamin down a valley suckin baby birds from their nests lookin for love I'll take a gun any day.

-Frank aka GE (just sayin -tm Pasha)
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Mus51 on November 20, 2012, 08:00:44 AM
A-10  :rock
MK-48  :rock
FUNKER530  :rock
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: titanic3 on November 20, 2012, 08:15:32 AM
LOL .. missile as effective as gun :)

Apples and Oranges.

If yer lookin at a single target with range in miles, yes ..missile may be a good option, especially if target is above you.

If yer screamin down a valley suckin baby birds from their nests lookin for love I'll take a gun any day.

-Frank aka GE (just sayin -tm Pasha)

I'll take rocket pods :).
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: ozrocker on November 21, 2012, 06:09:29 AM
I'd take the A-10 CAS over missile capable A/C CAS in almost any situation.
A-10 can make multiple bomb/ gun runs in much less time than missile capable A/C



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Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Seanaldinho on November 21, 2012, 12:34:50 PM
I'd take the A-10 CAS over missile capable A/C CAS in almost any situation.
A-10 can make multiple bomb/ gun runs in much less time than missile capable A/C



                                                                                                                                    :cheers: Oz
                                                                                                                         

I read somewhere its nose on target every 11 seconds?
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Rino on November 22, 2012, 11:16:43 AM
I'd take the A-10 CAS over missile capable A/C CAS in almost any situation.
A-10 can make multiple bomb/ gun runs in much less time than missile capable A/C



                                                                                                                                    :cheers: Oz
                                                                                                                         

     Just FYI, the A-10 is missile capable, one of it's most effective weapons in Desert Storm was the AGM-65 Maverick.
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: KgB on November 22, 2012, 09:29:58 PM
Gentlemen, question to those who served. How often do you actually see the enemy? In every video solders just spraying in general direction. Is it a common practise?
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Puma44 on November 22, 2012, 11:54:42 PM
Gentlemen, question to those who served. How often do you actually see the enemy? In every video solders just spraying in general direction. Is it a common practise?

What "every video"?
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Grayeagle on November 23, 2012, 07:30:07 AM
thing about 'seeing the enemy' in a video ..
..if you can see them.. they can put rounds into you.

Most cameras/users just are not capable of picking out the guy facing you from any kind of distance..
..especially in a fire zone where 'duck an cover' has a whole nuther meaning.
Plus .. a couple bullets snap by and impact close and all of a sudden 'focus' and 'depth of field'
for the camera just are not the priority .. yanno?

-Frank aka GE
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: KgB on November 23, 2012, 05:21:22 PM
thing about 'seeing the enemy' in a video ..
..if you can see them.. they can put rounds into you.

Most cameras/users just are not capable of picking out the guy facing you from any kind of distance..
..especially in a fire zone where 'duck an cover' has a whole nuther meaning.
Plus .. a couple bullets snap by and impact close and all of a sudden 'focus' and 'depth of field'
for the camera just are not the priority .. yanno?

-Frank aka GE
Thank you sir.
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: Condor11 on November 23, 2012, 07:03:54 PM
Gentlemen, question to those who served. How often do you actually see the enemy? In every video solders just spraying in general direction. Is it a common practise?

Its always hard to see. We spray because its easier to blanket an area. If theyre hiding, theyre not shoting back. But im not a door kicker. For my buddies who are/were its very different
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: KgB on November 23, 2012, 07:33:52 PM
Its always hard to see. We spray because its easier to blanket an area. If theyre hiding, theyre not shoting back. But im not a door kicker. For my buddies who are/were its very different
Thank you for your reply sir.
Title: Re: I love the A-10...
Post by: ozrocker on November 24, 2012, 07:12:58 AM
     Just FYI, the A-10 is missile capable, one of it's most effective weapons in Desert Storm was the AGM-65 Maverick.
Yeah, I should've said "other" missile capable A/C. But, I'm not talking CAS for a tank that's 1000 meters away anyway.
I'm talking CAS for enemy troops at danger close :aok

                                                                                                                       :cheers: Oz