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Title: No licence needed!
Post by: chaser on November 20, 2012, 09:05:18 PM
Is that really true? Is this thing legal to fly with no licence? Not that I have the money or the ability to fly it, just curious.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LAZAIR-Ultralight-Airplane-3-Axis-Control-ROTAX-185-No-medical-license-needed-/110979375290?pt=Motors_Aircraft&hash=item19d6e2e0ba (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LAZAIR-Ultralight-Airplane-3-Axis-Control-ROTAX-185-No-medical-license-needed-/110979375290?pt=Motors_Aircraft&hash=item19d6e2e0ba)
Title: Re: No licence needed!
Post by: Tupac on November 20, 2012, 09:10:06 PM
If it's a pt103 ultralight you don't need anything to fly it.

http://www.ultralighthomepage.com/FAR.part103.html
Title: Re: No licence needed!
Post by: Tupac on November 20, 2012, 09:12:34 PM
This part prescribes rules governing the operation of ultralight vehicles
  in the United States. For the purposes of this part, an ultralight vehicle
  is a vehicle that:
    (a) Is used or intended to be used for manned operation in the air by a
        single occupant;
    (b) Is used or intended to be used for recreation or sport purposes only;
    (c) Does not have any U.S. or foreign airworthiness certificate; and
    (d) If unpowered, weighs less than 155 pounds; or
    (e) If powered:
    (1) Weighs less than 254 pounds empty weight, excluding floats and safety
        devices which are intended for deployment in a potentially catastrophic
        situation;
    (2) Has a fuel capacity not exceeding 5 U.S. gallons;
    (3) Is not capable of more than 55 knots calibrated airspeed at full
        power in level flight; and
    (4) Has a power-off stall speed which does not exceed 24 knots calibrated
        airspeed.
Title: Re: No licence needed!
Post by: chaser on November 20, 2012, 09:26:01 PM
Very interesting. Thanks for the info! It looks like a blast to fly.
Title: Re: No licence needed!
Post by: Tupac on November 20, 2012, 09:31:27 PM
I bet it would be fun, but the look of those propellers is scary. 2 little bolts holding them on - one of my biggest (and irrational) fears in aviation is a propeller blade (or propeller) coming off and hitting me. Those are right level with your boys - not something I would want to have happen.
Title: Re: No licence needed!
Post by: chaser on November 20, 2012, 09:41:32 PM
I bet it would be fun, but the look of those propellers is scary. 2 little bolts holding them on - one of my biggest (and irrational) fears in aviation is a propeller blade (or propeller) coming off and hitting me. Those are right level with your boys - not something I would want to have happen.

Yea that and it looks like they are mounted on lawn mower engines? lol
Title: Re: No licence needed!
Post by: Scotch on November 20, 2012, 09:43:17 PM
I'm going to buy one of these!
Title: Re: No licence needed!
Post by: Tupac on November 20, 2012, 09:44:01 PM
More like weed whacker engines. 2 stroke rotax - mix oil and gas. Not so reliable. My neighbor flew ultralights for 5 years, he gave up after his 3rd engine failure (and crash)
Title: Re: No licence needed!
Post by: Scotch on November 20, 2012, 09:45:15 PM
Quit being a debbie downer! It has a picture of an eagle on it. Therefore it will be win.
Title: Re: No licence needed!
Post by: chaser on November 20, 2012, 09:49:28 PM
Heh that's why I would stay away from them if/when I ever fly. I'd love to have a pilots licence someday, I just don't have the time or money for it, let alone actually buying and maintaining plane.
Title: Re: No licence needed!
Post by: Golfer on November 20, 2012, 11:03:15 PM
I'd rather it look more like an aircraft than a couple lawn chairs damaged by a wind storm.

I've flown a couple legal ultralights. I wouldn't touch that one.
Title: Re: No licence needed!
Post by: chaser on November 21, 2012, 12:40:25 AM
I agree, I wouldn't touch this one even if I had the skill necessary to fly. I was just curious as to whether it really was legal to fly it with out a licence.
Title: Re: No licence needed!
Post by: colmbo on November 21, 2012, 12:57:56 PM
I'd rather it look more like an aircraft than a couple lawn chairs damaged by a wind storm.

I've flown a couple legal ultralights. I wouldn't touch that one.

Doesn't look much rougher than one of the jump planes I flew....or probably some of your night cargo stuff.  Besides, if you KNOW the engine won't quit wheres the fun?!  :D
Title: Re: No licence needed!
Post by: Babalonian on November 21, 2012, 03:44:26 PM
I'd rather do gliders imho, for a number of reasons, one being that you don't have to worry about if you cleared the lawn clippings from your carborator during preflight.
Title: Re: No licence needed!
Post by: shotgunneeley on November 21, 2012, 04:42:55 PM
It has a picture of an eagle on it. Therefore it will be win.

Two tippmann A5 .68 e-triggers mounted to the cowling...now THAT would be win!   :airplane:
Title: Re: No licence needed!
Post by: ToeTag on November 21, 2012, 05:08:43 PM
better not have a cross wind....very narrow wheel base = ground loop
Title: Re: No licence needed!
Post by: xNOVAx on November 22, 2012, 11:35:46 AM
Man you couldnt pay me to go flying in that thing..
Title: Re: No licence needed!
Post by: bcadoo on November 22, 2012, 02:50:42 PM
Would you feel more comfortable in this one?

(http://www.ultralightnews.com/ssulbg/himax-jdt/images/jdt/himax.jpg)
Title: Re: No licence needed!
Post by: rpm on November 22, 2012, 03:37:10 PM
http://vimeo.com/35859147
(http://www.airportjournals.com/Photos/0805/X/0805009_20.jpg)
Title: Re: No licence needed!
Post by: Tupac on November 22, 2012, 05:40:30 PM
http://vimeo.com/35859147
(http://www.airportjournals.com/Photos/0805/X/0805009_20.jpg)

That one is parked in Lakeland, Florida. I saw it last year - I wish my plane had a classy lawn chair like that.