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Title: More realistic control attempt
Post by: mechanic on November 21, 2012, 02:59:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmZQiQjDGfg

What do you think?
 :joystick:

Title: Re: More realistic control attempt
Post by: FLS on November 22, 2012, 02:46:36 PM
I think the buttons on the base are funny.  :D

I like my extended stick. It's like having scaling that never ramps up.
Title: Re: More realistic control attempt
Post by: zack1234 on November 23, 2012, 02:48:46 AM
I will post my stick when I get in later :old:

It makes your stick look poo :)

You can fly just using your finger tips, in use with one of those moving cradles you sit in, it would be very good :)

We need input from NrShida he is slightly odd and makes devices of such character :old:

JimmyC smells of eggcustard  :old:
Title: Re: More realistic control attempt
Post by: RTHolmes on November 23, 2012, 05:14:12 AM
that looks like its working great :aok

now you need to sort out a throttle, maybe knock up one of shida's designs with twin boost/rpm levers? :D
Title: Re: More realistic control attempt
Post by: nrshida on November 23, 2012, 06:45:19 AM
I have started at the other end namely a more ergonomic handle and switchgear, inspired by the lack of ergonomics in the CH stick. I haven't decided yet whether to mount it on the floor with a long stick or attached to my chair as a side-stick.

Very interesting to hear about the fidelity of control though. Do you find that you can still make some of the more extreme inputs that you did when the stick was short Batfink?



Title: Re: More realistic control attempt
Post by: mechanic on November 23, 2012, 09:48:31 AM
I will have to wait a bit longer before making any judgements Shida, I am still learning to use pedals after 15 years of flight sims on a twisty.
I would say it is a bit harder using the long stick mainly because I have to move around physically a bit more. It's now a movement of the shoulder and elbow more than just a flick of the wrist.
On the positive side the control fidelity is very high. Now that I'm getting the hang of it the fine control and overall smoothness is far greater than a short stick. Like FLS says, it's just like having a ramped up scaling.
Twin throttles would make my mossie very happy.
Please feel free to post your sticks guys.
I love custard!
Title: Re: More realistic control attempt
Post by: nrshida on November 23, 2012, 09:58:08 AM
I like aerobatics and I'm afraid of sporting injuries with a full length stick  :old:

I'd be pleased to hear your midterm impressions of working with the long 'un. Is the Force Feedback still effective?


My joystick handle in progress:-

(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k526/rwrk2/P7290007.jpg)

(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k526/rwrk2/P7290013.jpg)

Recently bought some switch gear. Lots of work still to do though.

 :salute


Title: Re: More realistic control attempt
Post by: mechanic on November 23, 2012, 10:21:15 AM
That looks good, which stick was it originally? An x52?

This stick never had FF, that why I've added the rubber to somewhat make it feel under tension.

I've also now made a base plate in a T-shape to lock the stick tot he floor and also to accommodate the pedals. this have improved things twofold.
Title: Re: More realistic control attempt
Post by: nrshida on November 23, 2012, 10:31:27 AM
It was originally a Tamiya M113 model, a cheap aluminium bicycle handlebar from the market, two packs of cork drinks coasters and a piece of an old hard drive. It's all scratch built  :banana:

Title: Re: More realistic control attempt
Post by: zack1234 on November 23, 2012, 10:51:09 AM
(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd391/zack12310/008.jpg)(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd391/zack12310/p007.jpg)
(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd391/zack12310/002-2.jpg)
(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd391/zack12310/016.jpg)
(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd391/zack12310/007-1.jpg)

We in The GFC like fiddling :old:
Title: Re: More realistic control attempt
Post by: Kermit de frog on November 23, 2012, 11:17:33 AM
(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd391/zack12310/008.jpg)(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd391/zack12310/p007.jpg)
(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd391/zack12310/002-2.jpg)
(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd391/zack12310/016.jpg)
(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd391/zack12310/007-1.jpg)

We in The GFC like fiddling :old:


Keep it up and you'll go blind.   :old:
Title: Re: More realistic control attempt
Post by: mechanic on November 23, 2012, 11:23:00 AM
awesome Zack, you were right yours is better
Title: Re: More realistic control attempt
Post by: danny76 on November 23, 2012, 11:38:32 AM
awesome Zack, you were right yours is better

I see from your video, that in deference to Zack you have replicated the "stains of dubious origin" on his strides and the errant toe protruding from a well used happy sock.

Good drills Sir :salute

Stick looks top btw but why not use the pedals as brakes, seems counter intuitive to use them as switches for clipboard etc
Title: Re: More realistic control attempt
Post by: mechanic on November 23, 2012, 12:19:18 PM
I didnt explain very well Danny. They are used as brakes for the analog function of then but if you depress them to 100% (I would only ever need to brake to about 60% or the plane begins to tip nse down anyhow) then they have a button input type function. So I get to use them as brakes and as buttons at the same time.
Title: Re: More realistic control attempt
Post by: danny76 on November 23, 2012, 01:17:26 PM
Thatd be a useful function. Saitek dunner do that :cry
Title: Re: More realistic control attempt
Post by: mechanic on November 23, 2012, 01:20:02 PM
It's a setup option within AH rather than a pedal function. Saiteks should be able to do this too.

Give me a minute I'll show you what i mean.



here:

(http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p620/monkeyfarmer/pedals.jpg)
Title: Re: More realistic control attempt
Post by: Randy1 on January 11, 2013, 06:07:16 AM
It's a setup option within AH rather than a pedal function. Saiteks should be able to do this too.

. . .

This is a great tip.  Thanks Mechanic.