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Title: The War Game (1965)
Post by: Plawranc on November 24, 2012, 02:52:25 PM
This film is rather chilling.

Made during the height of the Cold War. This film depicts the series of events that would result in a nuclear attack on the United Kingdom and the aftermath of the attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrGg8PfkbZw

It is very very eerie
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: RTHolmes on November 24, 2012, 05:39:25 PM
yes it is. the BBC made a film much like it in the 80s called Threads, well worth a watch - its even worse. chilling stuff indeed.
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: Meatwad on November 24, 2012, 07:49:49 PM
I watched this, about the same stuff

Sound an Alarm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsCJMYgFNuU
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: guncrasher on November 24, 2012, 07:54:22 PM
always liked the day after

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2B7sdLPMfc

midway
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: GScholz on November 25, 2012, 01:29:26 AM
"Threads" was horrifying back in the '80s:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MCbTvoNrAg   (full film)
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: smoe on November 25, 2012, 11:14:03 AM
I love how the movie starts out showing 50 locations that "Russia has probably allocated a certain number of her intermediate range nuclear missiles."

Did Russia even have more than 50 nuke missiles capable of hitting Europe? I am thinking only 2-3 nukes in Britian and 5-10 nukes in the US would significantly wound both countries.
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: RTHolmes on November 25, 2012, 11:18:05 AM
yes there were 1000s within range of britain. europe in the 80s was a very, very scary place to be.
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: GScholz on November 25, 2012, 01:32:49 PM
I love how the movie starts out showing 50 locations that "Russia has probably allocated a certain number of her intermediate range nuclear missiles."

Did Russia even have more than 50 nuke missiles capable of hitting Europe? I am thinking only 2-3 nukes in Britian and 5-10 nukes in the US would significantly wound both countries.

At the height of their power in 1985 the Soviets had an estimated 45,000 deployed nuclear warheads, 2400 ICBMs capable of hitting the U.S., and tens-of-thousands medium- and short-range missiles that covered Europe. Each missile would typically carry multiple warheads.

Now the Russian Federation have about 5,000 strategic nuclear weapons deployed with about 1,000 warheads capable of hitting the U.S.


(http://www.fas.org/programs/ssp/nukes/images/usrusnukes.jpg)

Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: GScholz on November 25, 2012, 02:09:28 PM
always liked the day after

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2B7sdLPMfc

midway

Yes, I though it was great. However, like someone commented on Youtube: "[Threads] makes "The Day After" look like an ABC After School Special. This one goes places the US audiences would have never tolerated."
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: B3YT on November 25, 2012, 02:23:43 PM
I enjoyed watching both "threads" and "wargames" I grew up in the 1980's  . I don't think kids these days realise how bad human conflict really is.  Infact I don't think many War worshipping  people around the world realise how bad things could get .
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: guncrasher on November 25, 2012, 03:07:30 PM
I love how the movie starts out showing 50 locations that "Russia has probably allocated a certain number of her intermediate range nuclear missiles."

Did Russia even have more than 50 nuke missiles capable of hitting Europe? I am thinking only 2-3 nukes in Britian and 5-10 nukes in the US would significantly wound both countries.

at any one time there were several submarines capable of hitting the mainland with nuclear warheads, that along with Icmbs.  had there been a war every major city would have been wiped out by the russians.  in addition they also had bombers capable of hitting whatever was left, if there was anything left.

we would have hit them hard too along with the eastern european countries and china.  it would have been the end.  not even Australia was safe as we had nuclear weapons there.

I guess you had to have lived prior to the mid 80's where there was always the possibility of a nuclear strike.  google MAD and that is always an interesting point.

this is a movie that hints of what may have happened had there been a mistake somewhere along all the protocols that we/them had in place.

fail safe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djqlAT-7be4   just notice it's a remake but it's the same point.

midway
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: guncrasher on November 25, 2012, 03:32:16 PM
crap I almost forgot one great movie about it.  "by the dawn's early light" that one was a really good one for me.  I remember seeing it when my daughter was a few day's old and feeling sad that it was a chance that she may not have lived to grow up.

midway.
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: GScholz on November 25, 2012, 04:02:58 PM
Both very good movies Guncrasher. Failsafe is notable also because it was performed live on TV.

[Powers Boothe] Planet of the Apes darling... [/Powers Boothe]
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: GScholz on November 26, 2012, 11:23:26 AM
When the Wind Blows (1986)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9aHT-IlkHo

Nuclear war for the kidz. We follow a sweet and naive elderly couple in Britain as they slowly die from radiation poisoning after a Soviet strike.

Probably the most depressing film I've ever seen.
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: LCADolby on November 26, 2012, 05:10:01 PM
Threads was disturbing, but at school they showed us When the Winds Blows. I have never seen so many girls cry at once  :banana:
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: Stellaris on November 26, 2012, 05:37:49 PM
The US and Russia could still wipe out the world in 20 minutes.  What's gone, thank goodness, is the brinksmanship.

Mostly...
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: onan on November 27, 2012, 03:33:46 PM
The weapons are predictable.  The random psyche of a starving and bewildered survivor is a sinister thought.
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: Groth on November 29, 2012, 07:24:57 PM
 There was a book..made into a very good radio drama, both called "War Day"....wish I could find the radio drama recorded, I had it on 'cassettes'(what are those, daddy??) but can't find them.
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: ridley1 on December 02, 2012, 07:05:28 PM
I had a course in University called "War and society".  I asked the prof if he had ever seen "threads".  He had never heard of it but thought he might check it out...as it was a BBC production and not hollywood.

The next week, we were watching it in the lecture hall.
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: icepac on December 03, 2012, 07:09:53 AM
I saw "Threads" and "the day after" and then took spring break by myself in a condo at crescent beach (st. augustine).

At 8:00 am, I was dreaming of nuclear attack and a real life pair of F14s did a super loud 700mph low pass down the beach.

I woke up convinced something big went down and disappointed that I had missed the window of opportunity to put my contigency program into action by stealing a large yacht.
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: Sabre on December 03, 2012, 04:21:33 PM
Seen all those, too. Also, in the vane of "War of the Worlds" was a made-for-TV movie called "Looking Glass".  It didn't show the war itself, but tells the story mostly through news reports and the background of the news station itself.  It doesn't actually show the nuclear war itself,though there are two tactical nudets in the film.  In that scene, presented as a satellite news report from the deck of a US aircraft carrier, a nuclear torpedo (probably an ASROC) is used against a submarine that is stalking the CV battle group. Less then a minute later, the satellite link disappears in mid-sentence as the reporter and his camera man on the CV are being rushed by crewmen into the CV's island to take cover.  The impression is that the sub's return shot, also nuclear, destroys the CV battle group.  The final scene shows the US emergency air born command post aircraft (code-name: Looking Glass") scrambling, and the picture and sound from the newscast being replaced by the audible tone of the emergency broadcast system (the old tone, not the new one used today). Very spooky.
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: Meatwad on December 03, 2012, 09:29:39 PM
Back around 1990, FEMA released this

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/napb-90/index.html


Very interesting read but LONG. Breakdown of fatalities by state/county, possible soviet targets listed by state, fallout dangers, blast dangers, etc etc


And there is this
http://www.scribd.com/doc/37577809/Risks-and-Hazards-FEMA-196

FEMA estimated targets on state map, pdf format
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: GScholz on December 04, 2012, 03:11:47 AM
Seen all those, too. Also, in the vane of "War of the Worlds" was a made-for-TV movie called "Looking Glass".  It didn't show the war itself, but tells the story mostly through news reports and the background of the news station itself.  It doesn't actually show the nuclear war itself,though there are two tactical nudets in the film.  In that scene, presented as a satellite news report from the deck of a US aircraft carrier, a nuclear torpedo (probably an ASROC) is used against a submarine that is stalking the CV battle group. Less then a minute later, the satellite link disappears in mid-sentence as the reporter and his camera man on the CV are being rushed by crewmen into the CV's island to take cover.  The impression is that the sub's return shot, also nuclear, destroys the CV battle group.  The final scene shows the US emergency air born command post aircraft (code-name: Looking Glass") scrambling, and the picture and sound from the newscast being replaced by the audible tone of the emergency broadcast system (the old tone, not the new one used today). Very spooky.

Countdown to Looking Glass (1984): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knSSUEdLcvg

Thanks!
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: Sabre on December 04, 2012, 10:28:22 AM
Countdown to Looking Glass (1984): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knSSUEdLcvg

Thanks!

Right, that's the one, thanks GScholz. Well done, I thought, and I was assigned to SAC at the time.
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: B3YT on December 06, 2012, 12:58:40 PM
http://youtu.be/htHL28-GnJc (http://youtu.be/htHL28-GnJc) How the UK government  help us .
Title: Re: The War Game (1965)
Post by: Plawranc on December 06, 2012, 03:16:37 PM
http://youtu.be/htHL28-GnJc (http://youtu.be/htHL28-GnJc) How the UK government  help us .


OH MY  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl