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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Coronado on November 26, 2012, 10:52:51 PM
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I think there is a bug with it,,, tonight, I had a collision and it gave me text stating such, I asked the other pilot if he got a message to, he said "yes" but rec'd no damage.Obviously his FE acknowledged there was a collision,,,why no damage?
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Not a bug. The message is literal. You collided. If he also collided you would see 2 collision messages, one for each of you. Because of lag you can collide on your PC while missing on the other player's PC.
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I think there is a bug with it,,, tonight, I had a collision and it gave me text stating such, I asked the other pilot if he got a message to, he said "yes" but rec'd no damage
The question is: Which message exactly did he get? "You have collided" or "Coronado collided with you". Because only one of them indicates a collision on his FE.
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I've only won about 5 collisions in my history at aces high and even had a p51 collide with all 3 of my buffs and fly away seemingly undamaged.
I am on a cell phone connection.
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I've only won about 5 collisions in my history at aces high and even had a p51 collide with all 3 of my buffs and fly away seemingly undamaged.
There is no 'win' or 'lose' with collisions in Aces High.
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There is no 'win' or 'lose' with collisions in Aces High.
:confused:
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:confused:
He is on point.
The notion that collisions can be won or lost (and stating connection type while at it) is giving players a totally wrong concept about the collision mechanisms and dynamics.
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So how can a p51 collide with all 3 of a buff formation, down them all, and fly away undamaged as I observe from my chute?
Something determines who gets damage and where on the plane the damage occurs.
Please help me understand since I only know intimately the collision mechanics behind Warbirds 1.1, warbirds 2.77, warbirds 3, IL2, and freehost.
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Something determines who gets damage and where on the plane the damage occurs.
It's very simple: If you have a collision on your screen, you get damage. If the enemy has a collision on his screen, he gets damage. It's the same for everyone. Keep in mind the dual realities, and how much these realities differ depends on both participants combined lag.
Most players think of a single "collision" on the server which then somehow determines the winner. No such thing. If you avoid collision on your screen, nothing will happen to you.
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It's very simple: If you have a collision on your screen, you get damage. If the enemy has a collision on his screen, he gets damage. It's the same for everyone. Keep in mind the dual realities, and how much these realities differ depends on both participants combined lag.
Most players think of a single "collision" on the server which then somehow determines the winner. No such thing. If you avoid collision on your screen, nothing will happen to you.
What about when you receive damage without your FE seeing the collision? "So and so has collided with you" and you take damage.
Am I understanding that to be their FE is seeing the collision, as the "You have collided with so and so" message is not there?
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If you did receive the "you collided with so and so" message then most likely you took damage from the other guys guns as he drove through you on his front end.
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Yup, gunfire. Enemies have the nasty habit of firing their guns while running into you.
At least I have :noid
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Yup, gunfire. Enemies have the nasty habit of firing their guns while running into you.
exactly, might be the biggest thing that people forget before they complain about collisions.
"oh, my wing came off, but it said he collided"
that's not insane, if he SHOT IT OFF before he rammed your wingless hulk. :)
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MAybe this will help .
(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y313/LittleGeorgeJr/collision1.png)
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Sorry, I should've been more specific. What about the instances when the other guy isn't firing?
I've had this happen many times:
Fighting somebody, perhaps getting into rolling scissors, or maybe just some type of quick reversals.
I receive the message, "So and so has collided with you."
Neither one of us was firing our guns.
We both take damage.
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MAybe this will help .
(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y313/LittleGeorgeJr/collision1.png)
I miss that graph, thanks VERY MUCH for finding/saving it! :rofl :aok
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Sorry, I should've been more specific. What about the instances when the other guy isn't firing?
I've had this happen many times:
Fighting somebody, perhaps getting into rolling scissors, or maybe just some type of quick reversals.
I receive the message, "So and so has collided with you."
Neither one of us was firing our guns.
We both take damage.
Hitech wants to see that film. :D
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I miss that graph, thanks VERY MUCH for finding/saving it! :rofl :aok
Your very welcome :)
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MAybe this will help .
(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y313/LittleGeorgeJr/collision1.png)
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Hitech wants to see that film. :D
I'll look for it. I auto-film every sortie, but I don't know if I named the recent instance that I'm thinking about.
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How recent? Previous to 2.27 Patch 0 there was a bug that had something to do with 'collided' messages not showing properly in films, though they were displaying correctly in game.
Wiley.
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How recent? Previous to 2.27 Patch 0 there was a bug that had something to do with 'collided' messages not showing properly in films, though they were displaying correctly in game.
Wiley.
Within the last two or three weeks.
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It should be right then, if I understand correctly.
Wiley.
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I'll look for it. I auto-film every sortie, but I don't know if I named the recent instance that I'm thinking about.
That should clear it up. If the collision code is written so that you only collide on your PC and you can only take damage not give damage in a collision then it seems unlikely that a collision you didn't have damaged you. As far as I know that's how it works. Even without the collision message it should be clear if you hit or missed on your end.
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That should clear it up. If the collision code is written so that you only collide on your PC and you can only take damage not give damage in a collision then it seems unlikely that a collision you didn't have damaged you. As far as I know that's how it works. Even without the collision message it should be clear if you hit or missed on your end.
That's how I've always understood it as well, and why this stood out to me.
I'll start going through films, and hopefully I'll find it. :)
Talk about spending time on doing something with no real world value! :D
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Sorry, I should've been more specific. What about the instances when the other guy isn't firing?
I've had this happen many times:
Fighting somebody, perhaps getting into rolling scissors, or maybe just some type of quick reversals.
I receive the message, "So and so has collided with you."
Neither one of us was firing our guns.
We both take damage.
Occasionally both FEs see a collision (not necessarily the exact same collision) and both players take damage.