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Title: Messerschmitt in a wind tunnel, 1940
Post by: CZCH64 on December 02, 2012, 03:11:35 PM

(http://www.retronaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/139.jpg)

(http://www.retronaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/328-628x448.jpg)

(http://www.retronaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/230-628x390.jpg)

http://www.retronaut.co/2012/10/messerschmitt-in-a-wind-tunnel-1940/

Title: Re: Messerschmitt in a wind tunnel, 1940
Post by: DEECONX on December 02, 2012, 09:44:53 PM

Cool photos  :aok

Title: Re: Messerschmitt in a wind tunnel, 1940
Post by: GScholz on December 02, 2012, 11:01:20 PM

Ze Germans had some very impressive wind tunnels at the time. During the war they built one capable of producing Mach 4 wind speeds for the V2 project.

Title: Re: Messerschmitt in a wind tunnel, 1940
Post by: Lusche on December 02, 2012, 11:08:15 PM

First one is the wind tunnel A3, Luftfahrtforschungsanstalt Hermann Göring, Braunschweig (Brunswik). Max air speed = 350 km/h

Title: Re: Messerschmitt in a wind tunnel, 1940
Post by: Guppy35 on December 04, 2012, 08:45:50 PM

This photo has shown up in more places of the first 109E.  Note the second bird isn't the same one possibly a test bird V24 according to "Messerschmitt Bf 109 A-E" by Radinger & Schick

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/DGS%20Scenario%20bits/109WT.jpg)

Title: Re: Messerschmitt in a wind tunnel, 1940
Post by: DEECONX on December 04, 2012, 09:54:21 PM

Neat  :aok :aok

Title: Re: Messerschmitt in a wind tunnel, 1940
Post by: mthrockmor on December 04, 2012, 09:59:15 PM

I've noticed that it flys faster with only one horizontal stabilizer, or half a wing. At least that is how I frequently fly them and they seem faster.

Boo

Title: Re: Messerschmitt in a wind tunnel, 1940
Post by: Slade on December 07, 2012, 11:17:45 AM

You can get the G and later to 550mph.  :eek:

No joke! You just have to dive from 10k+ in a shallow dive angle.  I have done it a few times now. 

Title: Re: Messerschmitt in a wind tunnel, 1940
Post by: GScholz on December 08, 2012, 04:48:07 AM

That doesn't sound too difficult. If you start from 30k you'll probably get it even faster then that, to near transonic speeds.

Title: Re: Messerschmitt in a wind tunnel, 1940
Post by: MK-84 on December 08, 2012, 08:33:01 PM

Amazing, i never knew wind tunnels really existed back then.  At least not to that scale!

Title: Re: Messerschmitt in a wind tunnel, 1940
Post by: gripen on December 09, 2012, 10:13:33 AM

The first picture is in the LFA as Lusche noted.

I'm not sure about the second one; might be the V24 at Chalais-Meudon, but that is a very large tunnel, IIRC oval 16x8m, structures look smaller.

Title: Re: Messerschmitt in a wind tunnel, 1940
Post by: Devil 505 on December 10, 2012, 10:58:21 AM

The aircraft in the second picture is very interesting. Looks like a testbed for the improvements that would appear on the 109F. Cool find.