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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: HighTone on December 03, 2012, 10:57:43 PM
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I would love to see the Ki-43 added to AH. For too long the MA and Special Events arenas have missed this airplane.
The I, II, and III models would be great.
The J2M3 and the Ki-44-II would do well in both as well IMO.
Here's to wishing :cheers:
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A double thumbs up. :aok :aok
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+1
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Of the three the J2M3 is the top priority. In fact, I would place this in the top-3 for consideration across the board.
It is Japanese, adds to the non-American plane set. Comes from the late-war stage, and thus not a hangar queen. Specialized in high altitude intercepts, great speed with above average 'turn n burn' ability. It did have engine problems (as many of our birds did) and tended to overheat.
The specialty of this bird was high speed, slash attacks with solid firepower. If added we would begin to see a lots of these birds 15-20k waiting to bounce the unsuspecting. It would also allow for a fun scenario or two, late-war involving B-29s.
+10 on the Jack
Boo
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Agreed, though I would personally like to see them in this order: Raiden -> Ki-100 -> Hayabusa -> Shōki
+10 on more Nipponesian airframes!
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I am looking forward to the Raiden as well :aok
+1 googolplex,
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I vote hell yes on all three!!
Sadly it wont happen since the players of this game have a huge bias against Japanese aviation of any kind.
....the last vote was 13% wanted "any" Japanese plane ....so sadly we shall never see any of these three planes ...unless hitech decides to overrule the "Mob" ...which I doubt will happen
Helm ...out
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I vote hell yes on all three!!
Sadly it wont happen since the players of this game have a huge bias against Japanese aviation of any kind.
....the last vote was 13% wanted "any" Japanese plane ....so sadly we shall never see any of these three planes ...unless hitech decides to overrule the "Mob" ...which I doubt will happen
Helm ...out
The best way to solve this would be to put all japanese planes on the vote, That way no biased opinions get in the way.
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We could always start our very own mob. If enough AHrs agreed on a single Japanese model then in a unified voice went to town on it, at some point the gods of HT would have to do something about it...in theory. Just like the gods of HT decided we needed that dang blasted stork thing. I don't remember anyone voting for that thing. haha
I vote for the Raiden/Jack/Thunderbolt. High end speed, high altitude, can compete with Doras, Ta152s, Jugs, PonyDs, K4s, etc. I think we would see lots of them tooln about.
Boo
PS I know it is Wiki but...
Mitsubishi J2M
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
J2M Raiden
Mitsubishi J2M Raiden (Allied code name "Jack")
Role
Fighter Aircraft
Manufacturer
Mitsubishi
First flight
20 March 1942
Introduction
December 1942
Retired
August 1945
Primary user
Imperial Japanese Navy Air Service (Imperial Japanese Navy)
Number built
621[1]
The Mitsubishi J2M Raiden (雷電, "Thunderbolt") was a single-engined land-based fighter aircraft used by the Imperial Japanese Navy Air Service in World War II. The Allied reporting name was "Jack".
[edit] Design and development
The J2M was designed by Jiro Horikoshi, creator of the A6M Zero to meet the 14-Shi (14th year of the Showa reign, or 1939) official specification. It was to be a strictly local-defense interceptor, intended to counter the threat of high-altitude bomber raids, and thus relied on speed, climb performance, and armament at the expense of manoeuvrability. The J2M was a sleek, but stubby craft with its over-sized Mitsubishi Kasei engine buried behind a long cowling, cooled by an intake fan and connected to the propeller with an extension shaft. Pilot visibility was poor, but a domed canopy introduced later in production partially alleviated this concern.
Teething development problems stemming from the Kasei engine, unreliable propeller pitch change mechanism and the main undercarriage members led to a slowdown in production. A continual set of modifications resulted in new variants being introduced with the ultimate high-altitude variant, the J2M4 Model 34 flying for the first time in August 1944. It had a 1,420 hp Kasei 23c engine equipped with a turbo supercharger (mounted in the side of the fuselage just behind the engine) that allowed the rated power to be maintained up to 30,000 ft. Two upward-aimed, oblique-firing (aimed at 70 degrees) 20 mm cannons, mounted in the German Schräge Musik style, were fitted behind the cockpit with the four wing cannons retained. Unresolved difficulties with the turbo supercharger caused the project to be terminated after only two experimental J2M4s were built.
[edit] Production
A total of 621 aircraft were built by Mitsubishi Jukogyo K.K in Nagoya and Suzuka plants. A total of 128 J2M3 were built by Koza Kaigun Kokusho (Koza Naval Air Arsenal)[1](based upon USSBS Pacific War, Reports Nos. 16 and 34)
J2M1 - 8 aircraft.
J2M2 - 131 aircraft. (approximately)[2]
J2M3 - 307 aircraft built by Mitsubishi and 128 aircraft built by Koza KK.
J2M4 - 2 aircraft. (including one J2M3 converted to J2M4 standard)[3]
J2M5 - 43 aircraft.
J2M6 - 2 aircraft.
[edit] Operational history
December 1945, two Japanese J2Ms in flight over British Malaya during evaluation by Royal Air Force officers from RAF Seletar.
The first few produced J2M2 were delivered to the development units in December 1942 but severe problems were encountered with the engines. Trials and improvements took almost a year and the first batch of the serial built J2M2 Model 11 was delivered to 381st Kokutai in December 1943. Parallel with the J2M2, production of the J2M3 Raiden Model 21 started. The first J2M3 appeared in October 1943 but deliveries to combat units started at the beginning of February 1944.
The Raiden made its combat debut in June 1944 during the Battle of the Philippine Sea. Several J2Ms operated from Guam and Saipan and a small number of aircraft were deployed to the Philippines. Later, some J2Ms were based in Chosen airfields, Genzan (Wonsan), Ranan (Nanam), Funei (Nuren), Rashin (Najin) and Konan under Genzan Ku, for defending these areas and fighting against Soviet Naval Aviation units.
Primarily designed to defend against the Boeing B-29 Superfortress, the lack of a supercharger handicapped the aircraft at high altitude. However, its four-cannon armament supplied effective firepower and the use of dive and zoom tactics allowed it to score occasionally. Insufficient numbers and the American switch to night bombing in March 1945 limited its effectiveness.
Captured J2M was U.S. Technical Air Intelligence Command (TAIC) tested in the 92 octane fuel plus methanol, and J2M2 (Jack11) achieved a speed of 655 km/h (407 mph) at 5,520 m (17,400 ft),[4] and J2M3 (Jack21) achieved a speed of 671 km/h (417 mph) at 4,980 m (16,600 ft).[5]
[edit] Variants
J2M1Prototype fitted with the 1,044 kW (1,400 hp) Mitsubishi MK4C Kasei 13 14-cylinder air-cooled radial engine, and armed with two 7.7 mm (.303 in) Type 97 machine guns in the upper fuselage and two wing-mounted 20 mm Type 99 Model II cannon.J2M2 Model 11Fitted with the 1,357 kW (1,820 hp) Mitsubishi MK4R-A Kasei 23a 14-cylinder radial engine, same armament as the J2M1.J2M3 Model 21Mitsubishi MK4R-A Kasei 23a engine, two wing-mounted 20 mm Type 99 Model II cannon and two wing-mounted 20 mm Type 99 Model I cannon.J2M3a Model 21AMitsubishi MK4R-A Kasei 23a engine, four wing-mounted 20 mm Type 99 Model II cannon.J2M4 Model 32Prototype fitted with the 1,357 kW (1,820 hp) Mitsubishi MK4R-C Kasei 23c engine. Many armament configurations have been reported, e.g., fuselage-mounted oblique-firing 20 mm Type 99 Model I cannon designed to fire upward as it passed underneath a bomber, two wing-mounted 20 mm Type 99 Model II cannon, and two wing-mounted 20 mm Type 99 Model I cannon (some J2M3s were also modified in the field to this configuration). However, no solid evidence exists that the prototypes ever flew armed.J2M5 Model 33High altitude version powered by 1,357 kW (1,820 hp) Mitsubishi MK4U-A Kasei 26a engine with mechanically driven supercharger, giving increased speed at height at the expense of shorter range (just over half that of the J2M2 and J2M3). Two 20 mm Type 99 cannon in fuselage, two 20 mm Type 99 Model II cannon in wings.[6]J2M5a Model 33AFour wing-mounted 20 mm Type 99 Model II cannon. Now, all four wing cannon were harmonized in trajectory and ballistics performance like the Kawanishi N1K-J Shiden fighters, but with more ammunition than they had (200 v. 70-125 rpg). The 20x101 mm cartridge gave the 128 g HE (6-8%) projectile an effective range of 1,000 m (3,280 ft) and a muzzle velocity of 750 m/s. The rate of fire was only 500 rpm each however (down from 520 rpm for the Type 99 Model I which only had a muzzle velocity of 600 m/s and a range of 730 m/2,400 ft with its 20x72 mm cartridge).J2M6 Model 31Chronologically earlier than J2M4 and J2M5 this version was based on J2M3. Had wider cockpit and improved bubble canopy later used in J2M3 built since July 1943.J2M6a Model 31AChronologically earlier than J2M4 and J2M5 this version was based on J2M3a. Had wider cockpit and improved bubble canopy later used in J2M3a built since July 1943. One J2M6a was built.J2M7 Model 23AJ2M3 powered by Kasei 26a engine, none built.J2M7a Model 23AJ2M3a powered by Kasei 26a engine, none built.
[edit] Survivors
A surviving J2M is on display at the Planes of Fame museum in Chino, California.
[edit] Operators
JapanImperial Japanese Navy Air Service[7] 256th Kokutai November 1944 - December 1945
301st Kokutai February 1944 - July 1945
302nd Kokutai March 1945 - August 1945
332nd Kokutai August 1944 - August 1945
352nd Kokutai August 1944 - August 1945
381st Kokutai End 1943 - April 1945
Yokosuka Kokutai
Yatabe Kokutai
Genzan Kokutai
Tainan Kokutai
Konoike Kokutai
Chushi Kokutai
IndonesiaIndonesian Air Force - In 1945, the Indonesian People's Security Force (IPSF) (Indonesian pro-independence guerrillas) captured a small number of aircraft at numerous Japanese air bases, including Bugis Air Base in Malang (repatriated 18 September 1945). Most aircraft were destroyed in military conflicts between the Netherlands and the newly proclaimed-Republic of Indonesia during the Indonesian National Revolution of 1945-1949.[citation needed]
Republic of KoreaThe South Korean Air Force operated two captured examples after the war. Both aircraft were replaced in 1950 by North American P-51 Mustangs.[citation needed]
[edit] Specifications (J2M5)
Data from Mitsubishi J2m Raiden[8]
General characteristics
Crew: one, pilot
Length: 9.70 m (32 ft 8 in)
Wingspan: 10.80 m (35 ft 5 in)
Height: 3.81 m (13 ft 0 in)
Wing area: 20 m² (216 ft²)
Empty weight: 2,839 kg (6,259 lb)
Loaded weight: 3,482 kg (7,676 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × One 1,820 hp Mitsubishi MK4R-A Kasei 23a 14-cylinder two-row radial engine, 1,358 kW (1,820 hp)
Performance
Maximum speed: 612 km/h (332 kn, 382 mph)
Range: 560 km (302 nmi, 348 mi)
Service ceiling: 11,250 m (36,910 ft)
Rate of climb: 1,170 m/min (3,838 ft/min)
Wing loading: 174 kg/m² (35 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 0.39 kW/kg (0.24 hp/lb)
Armament
Guns: 4 × 20 mm Type 99-2 cannons in the wings, two in each wing, inboard guns having 190 rpg, outboard guns 210 rpg.
Ordnance: 2 × 60 kg (132 lb) bombs or 2 × 200 L (53 US gal) drop tanks.
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I'm all for japanese rides.
In addition to this, I'd like to see the Ki-61 get a little update with the different models, Ki-61-I-Ko, Ki-61-I-Otsu, and Ki-61-I-Hei.
Would bring variety and variants to the Ki-61, which is more historically accurate.
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I am pretty sure the J2M3 and J2M3a could both be added as a single aircraft with different gun options, the J2M3 carrying two Type 99 Model IIs and two Type 99 Model Is while the J2M3a carried four Type 99 Model IIs.
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+1 for anything that's not a meteor :)... I'd like to see that jap twin engine me110 style ride
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+1 for anything that's not a meteor :)... I'd like to see that jap twin engine me110 style ride
Ki-45 or J1N maybe?
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+1 for anything that's not a meteor :)... I'd like to see that jap twin engine me110 style ride
Ki-45 Kai and the Ki-102! :airplane:
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Ki-45 or J1N maybe?
The j1N... I'd love to see how people would use that...it only had 1 20mm that fired forward lol the rest of the guns shot either upward or downward or both lol
Ki-45 and 102 I would actually want to see in game
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Of the three the J2M3 is the top priority.
Boo
Of the three, the Oscar should be a top priority as it was the primary fighter for the IJAAF and the plane in which the majority of IJAAF pilots became aces in. Not having the Ki-43 in the Japanse planet set would be like not including the P-51D for the US plane set.
ack-ack
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The ki-43 only had 2 .50cals with 250 rounds each...I don't know if that could bring down a p-40 in AH
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The ki-43 only had 2 .50cals with 250 rounds each...I don't know if that could bring down a p-40 in AH
That can bring down any plane in AH.
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The ki-43 only had 2 .50cals with 250 rounds each...I don't know if that could bring down a p-40 in AH
P40 is very tough you would definetly want to be close and a very good shot with just 250rpg
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want to be close
which you would as the Oscar would out-turn almost every other plane. Think D3A that's faster and armed with 50s instead of 7.7mms. A D3a can kill pony's and Dora's fine, you just have to group the shots.
I personally took down a lanc with it as the pilot was on the bomb run. It took about 100-200 rounds into the outer wing to make it fall off.
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The ki-43 only had 2 .50cals with 250 rounds each...I don't know if that could bring down a p-40 in AH
At 250 out it'll go down just fine. :aok
Generally, you wont do boom-and-zoom or snapshots in a Ki-43. You'll have to fly a Ki-43 well...like a Ki-43. ;-)
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P40 is very tough you would definetly want to be close and a very good shot with just 250rpg
It is not remotely that tough. Ki-43 with insane accuracy could probably down six to eight P-40s in AH on a single clip.
The Hurricane Mk II is also quite tough and I easily downed a fresh Hurricane with just the 12.7mm rounds left after my Ki-84's 20mm had run dry. Had enough 12.7s left after the Hurri kill to take out a C-47 on my way home. Ki-84's 12.7mm guns are the same guns as the Ki-43-II's and mounted in the same position.
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Yes, but who is going to hold still long enough for the 2x.50s to do their work? The Ki-43 will be used about as much as the A6M is right now, which is very infrequently. The MA is really a LW bird paradise and adding something from early war is not going to go that far.
Boo
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Yes, but who is going to hold still long enough for the 2x.50s to do their work? The Ki-43 will be used about as much as the A6M is right now, which is very infrequently. The MA is really a LW bird paradise and adding something from early war is not going to go that far.
Boo
A6M5 sees pretty heavy use, actually.
As to holding still, who cares. I BnZed a Hurricane Mk II to death with the guns. The Ki-43-II would have had a hell of a lot easier time killing the Hurricane than the Ki-84 as it wouldn't have to BnZ, it could just park itself on the Hurricanes six and there is nothing the Hurricane could have done to shake it.
Nobody thinks the Ki-43 will be a common sight in the LWA. If your criteria is that new additions must be commonly used in the LWA you're in for a lot of disappointment. There are very few things left to be added, possibly none, that will see heavier use than the A6M5 in the LWA.
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A6M5 sees pretty heavy use, actually.
As to holding still, who cares. I BnZed a Hurricane Mk II to death with the guns. The Ki-43-II would have had a hell of a lot easier time killing the Hurricane than the Ki-84 as it wouldn't have to BnZ, it could just park itself on the Hurricanes six and there is nothing the Hurricane could have done to shake it.
Nobody thinks the Ki-43 will be a common sight in the LWA. If your criteria is that new additions must be commonly used in the LWA you're in for a lot of disappointment. There are very few things left to be added, possibly none, that will see heavier use than the A6M5 in the LWA.
Gotta go with Karnak here.
Getting kills with 4 .50's in a fraction of a second is more than possible...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=90XpJWclilw
and often, while low on ammo or with busted guns, even *I* have done it with 2.
The Ki-43 would be a joy to fly!
If you aren't seeing A6Ms as well as other early/midwar planes you need to fly around a bit more.
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I would love to see the Ki-43 added to AH. For too long the MA and Special Events arenas have missed this airplane.
The I, II, and III models would be great.
The J2M3 and the Ki-44-II would do well in both as well IMO.
Here's to wishing :cheers:
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Also add the D4Y1 Suisei ("Judy") and maybe the B6N2 Tenzan ("Jill"), then we could run more late-war PTO events in FSO!
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I see Zeros in LW. It is like those National Geographic movies where a school of fish are trapped near the surface and Late War Monsters are zooming through , leaving flakes of silvery fish scales where the fish used to be as well as causing those nice little roman candles we all see.
The Ki-43 seems a great addition for scenarios though for MA another limited use bird that fits into the category of Custers last ride. The Raiden/Jack on the other hand should be able to compete with the Late War monsters. But that's just me...
Boo
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I see Zeros in LW. It is like those National Geographic movies where a school of fish are trapped near the surface and Late War Monsters are zooming through , leaving flakes of silvery fish scales where the fish used to be as well as causing those nice little roman candles we all see.
Those "trapped fish" get quite a few kills.
LWA Tour 154:
A6M2: 149 kills and 416 deaths. Kill Death ratio of 0.36
A6M3: 456 kills and 654 deaths. Kill Death ratio of 0.70
A6M5b: 3518 kills and 4023 deaths. Kill Death ratio of 0.87
A K/D ratio in the LWA of 0.87 for a flammable fighter that can't break 355mph in level flight is not bad.
The Ki-43 seems a great addition for scenarios though for MA another limited use bird that fits into the category of Custers last ride. The Raiden/Jack on the other hand should be able to compete with the Late War monsters. But that's just me...
Boo
The J2M3/J2M3a/J2M5 or Ki-44-II would be more LWA competitive, but I think you are underselling the Ki-43-II and, particularly, the Ki-43-III.
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Karnak is correct :salute
Anyone that thinks the A6M isn't competitive hasn't ran into the pilots that can fly them. I find most people fly the Zeke like a kite instead of like an airplane....instantly going for max turn rate in one, even when at that point in a fight it isn't called for.
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In warbirds, I preferred the J2m2 to the J2m3.
We need to start with the KI43 and and should get the KI44 before the J2m since it saw service earlier and the fact that they made 3 times as many KI44 as the J2m.
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Few tours ago I took up a c202 just to see how many I could shoot down with twin 50s, sure enough I landed 8 kills in one sortie. I took off and chased down a couple of carrier planes whose CV got sunk, then flew to the field to play around hoping someone would up, ended up with a heavy 38 that kept trying to up.
A decent aimer can score a few kills, maybe not as many as the 38 I can remember would not ditch his ords, I simply aimed for an engine. Granted this is pot luck, but I do recall shooting down a P-47 with twin 50s from a Ki-84 with less then 50 rounds total.
Most likely you won't score a kill on a snap shot on someone in a Ki-43, but then again if you want big guns go fly a Me-410, big guns won't matter when a Ki-43 sits on your tail and peppers you to death.
Model Type Kills Percent
Bf 110G-2 1 12.500
F6F-5 1 12.500
P-38L 5 62.500
SeaFire 1 12.500
Late War Tour 142
Kills by Butcher in a
C.202 by player name
Player Name Killed Percent
Nightfal 5 62.500
Pappy08 1 12.500
Pepsi 1 12.500
THESWEDE 1 12.500
8 Kills
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Emily, she is cute too.
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+ for Ki-43. I'm all for the Oscar. It was a favorite of mine in Warbirds for point-defense of a base under heavy pressure. A joy to fly, and could pull double emilman's and not stall out. Once got into a fight against an F4U and a F6F simultaneously. While I didn't outright kill either of them, I sent them both home with smoking engines; landed with 2 rounds left. :old: From a scenario standpoint, it is a definite plus. The Flying Tigers overwhelmingly ran into Oscars more often than any other Japanese fighter.
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I thought Nates were their most faced opponent
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I thought Nates were their most faced opponent
Ki-27s were mostly removed from combat in 1941, after the disaster against the Russian I-16's.
The Oscar replaced the Ki-27 as a front line fighter.
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Hey, I've posted a Type100 gunsight reticle in anticipation of the Ki43 and Ki44.
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I wish those planes will be released in next version! :pray
Also I wish HTC remodel Ki-61... :pray
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Hey, I've posted a Type100 gunsight reticle in anticipation of the Ki43 and Ki44.
:aok :cheers:
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Of the three, the Oscar should be a top priority as it was the primary fighter for the IJAAF and the plane in which the majority of IJAAF pilots became aces in. Not having the Ki-43 in the Japanse planet set would be like not including the P-51D for the US plane set.
ack-ack
Absolutely correct~ no other plane was used in such great numbers by the IJAF, and the paltry armament is no excuse why it should not be represented.
Seadog36
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+1 for more Japanese rides, and for updates on the current rides.
Ki-43 would be great for early war FSO.
J2M3 absolutely fabulous for the B29s over Tokyo.
Ki-100 - because the Ki-61 needs help...
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Ki-100 - because the Ki-61 needs help...
Yes indeed! :lol
It is the most useful Tony.
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I thought Nates were their most faced opponent
The original AVG before it was absorbed into the army, ran into the Ki27 more than any other fighter. The retractable gear fighters they encountered that they long called Zeros were actually Oscars.
There are few other units as famous as the Flying Tigers.
It's almost like having an air combat game without the proper planes to do the Battle of Britain.
Just for that reason, I believe both the Ki27 and Ki43 should be added to the game.
I'd love to do a proper Flying Tigers setup, but it is most difficult to find adequate subs. I suppose a Val could be used as a Nate sub and an A6M2 as an Oscar, but the Zero's cannons are just too much.
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I'd take the faster J2M2 over the later 4 cannon J2M3.
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It's almost like having an air combat game without the proper planes to do the Battle of Britain.
HAHAHAH!! That would be SOOOOOO.....
oh... wait a minute... That's us! :furious
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HAHAHAH!! That would be SOOOOOO.....
oh... wait a minute... That's us! :furious
I dont understand this :headscratch:
Spit 1, Hurri 1, 109e, Ju88, Bf110 Ju87 and now He111.
I would say the planeset for a BOB scenario is pretty comprehensive :old:
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Technically all the LW bombers we have currently and possibly the new He 111 are post-BoB variants with more powerful engines and more armour protection. This makes it harder than RL for the Spits and Hurris to both intercept them and bring them down.
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Yes we must have more German and British planes so we can run proper ETO events....I mean how dare we make the Allies job any harder.
Never mind the fact that most PTO, MED and the Eastern front are nothing but compromises from those respective countries plane sets.
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I agree the whole 1940-41 planeset is pretty thin, particularly WRT bombers. I was just answering a specific question that was asked about the BoB.
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HAHAHAH!! That would be SOOOOOO.....
oh... wait a minute... That's us! :furious
LOL, well I hadn't considered all the variants, but we do have several of the planes needed to run BOB.
We don't have a single Japanese model, bomber or fighter that the AVG faced.
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Damn it, C205/202 the latest model is just awesome... :aok
I really wish HTC remodel Ki-61 like them! :pray
And please, please add Ki-61-I Ko Otsu Hei model, Ki-61-II-KAI, and Ki-100-I... :pray
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Damn it, C205/202 the latest model is just awesome... :aok
I really wish HTC remodel Ki-61 like them! :pray
And please, please add Ki-61-I Ko Otsu Hei model, Ki-61-II-KAI, and Ki-100-I... :pray
Double :pray
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Ok, we have the Oscar now~ time to quiet down for a while :D
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Ok, we have the Oscar now~ time to quiet down for a while :D
I think HTC learned long ago that giving Goldilocks porridge just makes Goldilocks squeak even louder about the quality/heat level of the overall porridge situation.
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:aok
This Goldielocks used to squeak about getting a D-15 to D-23 variant of P-47D. I did get 7 new skins for the D-11 to tide me over for a while. Maybe one day. :D
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No I usually give it a rest for six months or so after an update like this.
I will start a thread then called....."Jack - Tojo - Nick" or maybe "Jack - Tojo - Randy"
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I didn't know Jack, Tojo'd, Randy........and here I thought they were all on the same side.
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Should get the Nell in there too.. Used more of them than Bettys..
Nell was what they used in all their early successes..
Kinda like the Japanese HE111..
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This thread should change to "Jack-Tojo-Emily"! ;)
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it will fly in Aces High...someday... :pray
(http://park1.wakwak.com/~azu//upload/Ki44-0015-verA.jpg)
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it will fly in Aces High...someday... :pray
(http://park1.wakwak.com/~azu//upload/Ki44-0015-verA.jpg)
Great pic.. Always liked the look of the Tojo..
I think it would fare pretty well in the MW, but I'm not sure of the service dates.. Has cannons with exploding shells, a little armor, and self sealing tanks, so it isn't a flying torch..
I like it! :aok