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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Mano on December 09, 2012, 11:17:28 PM
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http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/finding-bigfoot-17723496 (http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/finding-bigfoot-17723496)
With the all scientist looking for this legend, you'd think they woulda found one by now.
:D
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NO.
Those scientists are only looking for bigfoot because people will watch it on tv. There is no Bigfoot, only hoaxes.
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It's real. :noid
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Of course not.
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this guy believes.
(http://www.gaychristian101.com/images/why-use-photos-of-tin-foil-hats-on-the-beastiality-page-21330763.jpg)
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That meant for me?
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Everyone has cameras on their phones and there is less evidence of anything remotely odd than there was 40 years ago :old:
I dropped a anvil on my foot once and it went big, it's was a 5lb one so it could have been worse :old:
I don't "believe" the Brewster was that good in the war :old:
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NO.
Those scientists are only looking for bigfoot because people will watch it on tv. There is no Bigfoot, only hoaxes.
samsquantches are real though, right?
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this guy believes.
(http://www.gaychristian101.com/images/why-use-photos-of-tin-foil-hats-on-the-beastiality-page-21330763.jpg)
Everone knows that Aluminum foil keeps the government from tuning into thoughts right? And aliens from accessing our our brainwaves? I have one for my privates. Damn pervy aliens.
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Times are tough, even for Bigfoot! :old:
(http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/46000/Bigfoot-sighting---46223.jpg)
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samsquantches are real though, right?
No, it was just Steve French.
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samsquantches are real though, right?
+1 for calling them Samsquanches. +2 if they have ravies.
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hey man i was freaked out when i found out a snipe was a actual bird. :confused:
Yeah Bigfoot is real...seen him at the taven sunday. :rock
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If you were to see my uncle's (he's around 6'10") shoes, you'd know Big Foot exists.
ack-ack
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I have to say "I don't know."
Honestly, I think the odds are against it, BUT there are still HUGE tracts of uninhabited land in North America, and Asia where a Sasquatch or Yeti (bipedal primate) type creature could go undiscovered for many years. However unlikely it is that such a large mammal could stay hidden so well, I cannot say that it is 100% impossible. The Mountain Gorilla in Africa stayed a ghost till 1902.
I do believe most sightings are either a hoax, or mistaken identity, and sadly most documentaries and TV programs on the subject are a total joke. The most credible researcher I've heard on the subject is Dr. Jeffrey Meldrum, a proffesor of Anatomy and Anthropology at Idaho St. Like me he's smart enough to say "I don't know" when it comes to existence of such a creature. But his research has claimed to have turned up some evidence in footprint casts that is not easily dismissed.
So I say, odds are against it, but I won't rule out the possibility entirely.
EDIT: Watched the ABC video, on that Animal Planet show... I watched it once because they where in my neck of the woods... and.... that show is an absolute joke. To call those guys "researchers" or "scientists" is an insult to serious researchers in the field.
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I doubt it, because you would think that at the very least, some skeletal remains would have been found by now.
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I doubt it, because you would think that at the very least, some skeletal remains would have been found by now.
I used to feel the same way, but then one summer near where we go camping, we found a dead elk that someone had shot out of season. Over the next few weeks during archery season, etc., we watched that mature cow elk TOTALLY disappear. First the coyotes and other scavengers got the meat, other animals and birds got the fur, ants got ay little bits of other stuff, and squirrels, rats and other rodent type animals chewed the bones to nothing. When you think about it, if nature didn't work that way, the forests would be totally covered with deer, elk, moose, bear, rabbit, squirrel and other bones, right?
Re: bigfoot - I've never seen one, but that doesn't mean they DON'T exist. . . . :noid
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I saw sasquatch the last time I went to Wal-Mart.
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I flew with BFOOT in the last DGS scenario... And he's a damn fine stick! :salute
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they have proof of a primate DNA that is unlike known primates....
watch the baby Sasquatch in new York video....clearly a primate is swinging and climbing in the trees.
ive never seen one.....my guess is they are the smartest "humans" on the planet.
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If it's not on the internet it's not true! :old:
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No.
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There is no such thing as Bigfoot.
If there was a Bigfoot, there'd be remains. Every living thing dies, and if there wasn't any remains to be found our friend Bigfoot would be alive for well over 70 years.
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no remains= non existence
hmmmmmm
ok :rofl
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Its possible they exist undiscovered. Look how long it took us to find King Kong and all those dinosaurs on that Island they filmed Jurassic Park on!
Just sayin
68valu
(This is the first time I've ever used the term "just sayin")
just sayin
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no remains= non existence
hmmmmmm
ok :rofl
We wouldn't be able to prove dinosaurs without remains, right?
Until we have fossil/direct remains on record, i'm not buying it.
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I suppose it's possible that something like that could exist and no hunter or fisherman or scientist or anyone has ever come across any remains.
I don't think it likely, but it is possible.
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We wouldn't be able to prove dinosaurs without remains, right?
Until we have fossil/direct remains on record, i'm not buying it.
they may very well bury their dead.....
the Patterson film...is proof they exist yet people say that film is fake...yet you can see the muscles rippling under the fur and a "hemotoma"(sp?) on its leg....besides the fact it is clearly Female.....
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they may very well bury their dead.....
I can't recall ever hearing claims of bigfoot being a pack animal, or having any sort of social structure. So how is it that such a rare, solitary creature would find the body of one of its equally rare brethren before one of the thousands of loggers, hunters, birdwatchers, etc. in the woods do? Also I think someone would notice a sasquatch at the local Ace buying a shovel.
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they may very well bury their dead.....
the Patterson film...is proof they exist yet people say that film is fake...yet you can see the muscles rippling under the fur and a "hemotoma"(sp?) on its leg....besides the fact it is clearly Female.....
El.
Oh.
El.
You really believed a faked video? Its easy to fake just about anything if you have a camera and photoshop.
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Believe this:
no one believes that I believe in the belief that bigfoot exists. Believe that!
68valu
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El.
Oh.
El.
You really believed a faked video? Its easy to fake just about anything if you have a camera and photoshop.
What Photoshop version was available in 1967 exactly? And the '60's were known for it's groundbreaking special effects. Which is why we have the Patterson-Gimlin film with the most realistic "man in a gorilla suit" ever. It's so good no one has been able to re-create what they did.
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What Photoshop version was available in 1967 exactly? And the '60's were known for it's groundbreaking special effects. Which is why we have the Patterson-Gimlin film with the most realistic "man in a gorilla suit" ever. It's so good no one has been able to re-create what they did.
In 1960 Bigfoot was first "discovered." (More like created) A bunch of people up in the California mountains were out hiking and thought they saw a large animal and told the whole world.
Wanna know what it probably was? A bear. Most likely a black bear that tends to be in that specific region. If Bigfoot is alive and exists, he is either the last of his kind or there's many more and not a single person has been able to get a 100% confirmed sighting report on said creature. Not a single inch of evidence in remains/fossils helps the Bigfoot "theory" and there are none found. Even biologists say that Bigfoot doesn't exist.
I'd much sooner believe that NASA faked the moon landing than the existence of Bigfoot.
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In 1960 Bigfoot was first "discovered." (More like created) A bunch of people up in the California mountains were out hiking and thought they saw a large animal and told the whole world.
Wanna know what it probably was? A bear. Most likely a black bear that tends to be in that specific region. If Bigfoot is alive and exists, he is either the last of his kind or there's many more and not a single person has been able to get a 100% confirmed sighting report on said creature. Not a single inch of evidence in remains/fossils helps the Bigfoot "theory" and there are none found. Even biologists say that Bigfoot doesn't exist.
I'd much sooner believe that NASA faked the moon landing than the existence of Bigfoot.
Sasquatch was not "discovered" in the 1960s by hikers.
That's not a bear in the Patterson-Gimlin film
Jane Goodall believes they exist.
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Sasquatch was not "discovered" in the 1960s by hikers.
That's not a bear in the Patterson-Gimlin film
Jane Goodall believes they exist.
Sorry, I meant to say that he was first discovered in America in the 1960's.
The film is faked. I'm not buying it.
That is one biologist who believes Bigfoot exists. A real biologist wouldn't take any part of it until there is fossils/remains on record.
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I can't recall ever hearing claims of bigfoot being a pack animal, or having any sort of social structure. So how is it that such a rare, solitary creature would find the body of one of its equally rare brethren before one of the thousands of loggers, hunters, birdwatchers, etc. in the woods do? Also I think someone would notice a sasquatch at the local Ace buying a shovel.
we have no clue if they are social among themselves.....
Elephants and sea turtles go to a specific place to die....these could be similar.
I am not 100% convinced they exist...... but I lean more towards they are real.....
I am not so closed minded that I need to "see" something to know it is real.
In 1960 Bigfoot was first "discovered." (More like created) A bunch of people up in the California mountains were out hiking and thought they saw a large animal and told the whole world.
Wanna know what it probably was? A bear. Most likely a black bear that tends to be in that specific region. If Bigfoot is alive and exists, he is either the last of his kind or there's many more and not a single person has been able to get a 100% confirmed sighting report on said creature. Not a single inch of evidence in remains/fossils helps the Bigfoot "theory" and there are none found. Even biologists say that Bigfoot doesn't exist.
I'd much sooner believe that NASA faked the moon landing than the existence of Bigfoot.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
keep repeating what others say....... you will be right eventually :aok
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Sorry, I meant to say that he was first discovered in America in the 1960's.
The film is faked. I'm not buying it.
That is one biologist who believes Bigfoot exists. A real biologist wouldn't take any part of it until there is fossils/remains on record.
Do you even know who Jane Goodall is?
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I dun seen it! He was right there standing next to Elvis when I got probed by the aliens!
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I am not so closed minded that I need to "see" something to know it is real.
No remains.
Not a single confirmed reported sighting.
Not a single person has proven Bigfoot exists.
You expect me to believe something that is in controversy in every part of the world?
I'm not going to believe Bigfoot exists just because a few people have claimed to have seen this creature. I want actual proof. Not some video from half a century ago that is still over debate. We all have our own beliefs, its just a matter of trying to tell someone an apple is a banana. Sure. You can poke and shove at me all you want - you're still not going to get be to believe Bigfoot exists until the proof is on the table.
I dun seen it! He was right there standing next to Elvis when I got probed by the aliens!
I saw it too! There was a commie standing next to Bigfoot and took him away in his time machine after Elvis got done pooping!
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No remains.
Not a single confirmed reported sighting.
Not a single person has proven Bigfoot exists.
You expect me to believe something that is in controversy in every part of the world?
I'm not going to believe Bigfoot exists just because a few people have claimed to have seen this creature. I want actual proof. Not some video from half a century ago that is still over debate. We all have our own beliefs, its just a matter of trying to tell someone an apple is a banana. Sure. You can poke and shove at me all you want - you're still not going to get be to believe Bigfoot exists until the proof is on the table.
I saw it too! There was a commie standing next to Bigfoot and took him away in his time machine after Elvis got done pooping!
I don't care what you believe, especially the part where you claim you're being "poked and shoved" while you respond with typical mocking. What you or I believe doesn't change facts.
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I don't care what you believe, especially the part where you claim you're being "poked and shoved" while you respond with typical mocking. What you or I believe doesn't change facts.
And what are the facts?
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I don't care what you believe, especially the part where you claim you're being "poked and shoved" while you respond with typical mocking. What you or I believe doesn't change facts.
Where are your facts at?
I still don't have the proof.
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Skorp and I actually agree on something, the world is ending dec 21st.
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Skorp and I actually agree on something, the world is ending dec 21st.
But... Tomorrow is 12/12/12...
The rapture...?
What is this I don't even
NOTHING MAKES SENSE ANYMORE.
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Skorpx1...
I'm all for healthy skepticism, it's what keeps scientists honest.
BUT... when you don't know the first thing about the Patterson/Gimlin film ( either the best evidence, or best hoax to date) think that the Sasquatch/Bigfoot/Yeti sighting phenomenon didn't start until the 1960's (it goes back at least 1000 years) and don't have a clue who Jane Goodall (the most famous primate researcher on the planet) is... ...
Well, then it's hard to take you serious at all. That's not skepticism, that's just blind denial.
For the record in case you missed my previous post, I AM skeptical myself. But I can't dismiss the possibility outright, which is what you have done while being completely ignorant on the subject.
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I told you Sasquatch I ain't givin you no tree fiddy
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the Pattersen film is extremely potent evidence.....it has been redone in High def and you can clearly see the muscles working under the fur, a hematoma on its leg....these are things that would never be seen in a "suit"
the creature in the vid is a female with breasts.....
the baby in the trees in New York is also very potent evidence.
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The lack of fossils is a function of their habitat . The acidic soil plus humid environment means no fossils . Same thing for chimps . There is a fair amount of dna evidence as well . Two studies are close to publication . The PG film is excellent evidence as well . Google the Bill Munns report . There is also the tooth that was recently found . There is every year fewer and fewer people in the woods of NA . Those that do rarely venture far from roads .
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Where are your facts at?
I still don't have the proof.
The fact is its either walking the earth or it isn't. What you or I believe doesn't matter. In the case of Sasquatch there is a hell
of a lot of evidence that's points towards it being real. None of which you seem to know of.
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The fact is its either walking the earth or it isn't. What you or I believe doesn't matter. In the case of Sasquatch there is a he'll of a lot of evidence that's points towards it being real. None of which you seem to know of.
Show me a picture (besides the patterson film) show me a skeleton, show me SOMETHING. AFAIAC it's in the same category as the loch ness monster.
Maybe sasquatch is actually Jimmy Hoffa. I found him!
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whats the question again?
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have any of you non-believers been watching the new films of them??
They have managed to secretly film them messing with people in the wilderness eating Jack-links products.
What more proof do you all need?
Geez, come on!
just sayin
68valu
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Show me a picture (besides the patterson film) show me a skeleton, show me SOMETHING. AFAIAC it's in the same category as the loch ness monster.
Maybe sasquatch is actually Jimmy Hoffa. I found him!
Look for yourself smartass. I wasn't put on the planet to provide for you.
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(http://images.wikia.com/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/2/24/Boy-that-escalated-quickly_zps178aa246.jpg)
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Look for yourself smartass. I wasn't put on the planet to provide for you.
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(http://cdn5.nwgimg.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/AxrdXrLCMAAjJk4.jpg_large.jpg)
You got time to google cute little pictures but can't be bothered with anything else? We know you don't have a girlfriend taking up your time.
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(http://images.wikia.com/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/2/24/Boy-that-escalated-quickly_zps178aa246.jpg)
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You got time to google cute little pictures but can't be bothered with anything else? We know you don't have a girlfriend taking up your time.
I couldn't think of a response that wouldn't get me banned, so here you go.
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I couldn't think of a response that wouldn't get me banned, so here you go.
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You forgot your ball.
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You forgot your ball.
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I hear John Lithgow is one of the leading sasquatch experts these days.
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No remains.
Not a single confirmed reported sighting.
Not a single person has proven Saola exists.
You expect me to believe something that is in controversy in every part of the world?
I'm not going to believe Saola exists just because a few people have claimed to have seen this creature. I want actual proof. Not some video from half a century ago that is still over debate. We all have our own beliefs, its just a matter of trying to tell someone an apple is a banana. Sure. You can poke and shove at me all you want - you're still not going to get be to believe Saola exists until the proof is on the table.
I saw it too! There was a commie standing next to Saola and took him away in his time machine after Elvis got done pooping!
For centuries the exact same things were said about the Saola mythological,no proof,just the natives superstitions.
Then they found one.
Some times the myth is real.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saola
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This guy thinks the film couldn't have been a human wearing a monkey suit.
I find it to be unlikely because no harder evidence has ever been found, but I still say it's possible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKUwdHex1Zs
Of course you can then read this and still not draw any definitive conclusion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patterson-Gimlin_film
I'd say that the film may be a fake, or maybe not. Who the hell knows?
I'm going to bed.
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The Legend is not from the 1960's. The Native Americans have many stories of encounters with them.
"The Bigfoot figure is common to the folklore of most Northwest Native American tribes. Native American Bigfoot legends usually describe the creatures as around 6-9 feet tall, very strong, hairy, uncivilized, and often foul-smelling, usually living in the woods and often foraging at night. Native American Bigfoot creatures are almost always said to be unable to speak human languages, using whistles, grunts, and gestures to communicate with each other. In some stories, male Bigfeet are said to be able to mate with human women. In some Native stories, Bigfoot may have minor supernatural powers-- the ability to turn invisible, for example-- but they are always considered physical creatures of the forest, not spirits or ghosts."
Now some parts of legends are not true but most are based on some facts. We are so civilized and smart we think we know it all. :old:
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The Legend is not from the 1960's. The Native Americans have many stories of encounters with them.
"The Bigfoot figure is common to the folklore of most Northwest Native American tribes. Native American Bigfoot legends usually describe the creatures as around 6-9 feet tall, very strong, hairy, uncivilized, and often foul-smelling, usually living in the woods and often foraging at night. Native American Bigfoot creatures are almost always said to be unable to speak human languages, using whistles, grunts, and gestures to communicate with each other. In some stories, male Bigfeet are said to be able to mate with human women. In some Native stories, Bigfoot may have minor supernatural powers-- the ability to turn invisible, for example-- but they are always considered physical creatures of the forest, not spirits or ghosts."
Now some parts of legends are not true but most are based on some facts. We are so civilized and smart we think we know it all. :old:
that last line is dead on :aok
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The Legend is not from the 1960's. The Native Americans have many stories of encounters with them.
"The Bigfoot figure is common to the folklore of most Northwest Native American tribes. Native American Bigfoot legends usually describe the creatures as around 6-9 feet tall, very strong, hairy, uncivilized, and often foul-smelling, usually living in the woods and often foraging at night. Native American Bigfoot creatures are almost always said to be unable to speak human languages, using whistles, grunts, and gestures to communicate with each other. In some stories, male Bigfeet are said to be able to mate with human women. In some Native stories, Bigfoot may have minor supernatural powers-- the ability to turn invisible, for example-- but they are always considered physical creatures of the forest, not spirits or ghosts."
Now some parts of legends are not true but most are based on some facts. We are so civilized and smart we think we know it all. :old:
The natives of the Tibet/Himalayan region of Asia have similar legends (Yeti) going back hundreds of years as well. Among the Tibetan Buddhists the Yeti is considered a sacred creature with supernatural abilities. There is even a Buddhist monastery in the Himalaya that claims to have among it's sacred objects a "Yeti scalp". Though, because it is sacred they will let no scientists take samples for testing, so it could just be a misshapen Yak hump... ...
As others have pointed out, almost every legend has some small kernel of truth at it's beginning.
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Inspired by this thread, I just downloaded this book to my Kindle.
Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science (http://www.amazon.com/Sasquatch-Legend-Meets-Science-ebook/dp/B003JH8MBA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1355345570&sr=8-2&keywords=jeff+meldrum) by Dr. Jeff Meldrum (who I mentioned earlier)
I've seen Dr. Meldrum on a documentary before, and he is one of a few serious primate/anthropology researchers investigating the phenomenon. He takes it seriously and actually follows the scientific method, using hard science and theories from both believers and skeptics. (Unlike those idiots on the Animal Planet show :rolleyes: )
Amazon description:
In this landmark work on a subject too often dismissed as paranormal or disreputable, Jeffrey Meldrum gives us the first book on sasquatch to be written by a scientist with impeccable academic credentials, an objective look at the facts in a field mined with hoaxes and sensationalism. Meldrum reports on the work of a team of experts from a wide variety of fields who were assembled to examine the evidence for a large, yet undiscovered, North American primate. He reviews the long history of this mystery--which long predates the "bigfoot" flap of the late fifties--and explains all the scientific pros and cons in a clear and accessible style, amplified by over 150 illustrations. Anyone who has pondered the mysteries of human evolution will be fascinated and eager to join Dr. Meldrum in drawing their own conclusion.
Reviews say it is the best scientific book on the subject, so I'm looking forward to a good read.
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Now some parts of legends are not true but most are based on some facts. We are so civilized and smart we think we know it all. :old:
legends are just stories. some may have roots in reality but you wouldnt recognise that reality in the story. classical greek mythology is a good example - ancient gods, heros, giants and monsters. the reality is that some humans very advanced for their age (but not for ours) found a few dinosaur bones and rationalised their discoveries by creating the legends that we are still enjoying 2,500yrs later.
bigfoot? possible I suppose, although there would have to be 100s in each population to make them sustainable. the only evidence seems to be film of a bloke in a gorilla suit and some plastercasts that even a schoolkid could have faked ...
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some plastercasts that even a schoolkid could have faked ...
I'll agree most footprint casts are likely hoaxes, (see the whole Ray Wallace family hoax)
But there are some casts out there that display accurate dermal ridges, metatarsal breaks and other large primate details that the average joe wouldn't even know to fake. If these are fakes they where not made by schoolkids, but by people with decent knowledge of large primate anatomy, and sophisticated equipment.
Not saying they're genuine, just saying don't be so quickly dismissive. Just because many are obvious poor hoaxes, doesn't mean all are.
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the only evidence seems to be film of a bloke in a gorilla suit and some plastercasts that even a schoolkid could have faked ...
Not exactly.
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I'll just say that I have an open mind on this topic.
However, if Al Gore were to announce that he had proof positive of Bigfoot, I'd immediately know the creature was a legend....
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Manbearpig!
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Not exactly.
What other evidence do you have?
All I saw in Bigfoot's defense was that video.
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What Photoshop version was available in 1967 exactly? And the '60's were known for it's groundbreaking special effects. Which is why we have the Patterson-Gimlin film with the most realistic "man in a gorilla suit" ever. It's so good no one has been able to re-create what they did.
You've never heard of Philip Morris (maker of the suit used in Patterson's film) or Bob Heironimus (the guy that wore the suit).
ack-ack
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You've never heard of Philip Morris (maker of the suit used in Patterson's film) or Bob Heironimus (the guy that wore the suit).
ack-ack
Yeah, and their story didn't add up either.
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What other evidence do you have?
All I saw in Bigfoot's defense was that video.
www.google.com
Have at it.
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Sadly they do exist in zoos in North america. It's called a gorilla.
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I grew up in Eureka, California and the Wallace Bros, who were loggers in the redwood forest area, often left BF tracks along
the logging trails. The story I heard when I was a kid is they were discretely paid by the Eureka Hotel to drum up business.
Every time someone found BF prints in the mud the hotel would fill up with reporters, tourists, and scientist trying to find evidence.
This went on for years. The scientist could not figure out why the foot prints were so big, yet the stride was so close together.
They did not know about the Wallace Bros. If I remember right, they were not tall and probably around five foot ten to five foot eleven.
When they finally got caught they did not have to spend any time in jail. They had to pay a heavy fine. When the logging business would go into a recession the temptation
to leave the prints for the hotel was just too great. During that time period, logging was the only industry and if the redwood prices went down enough the mill shut down.
Everyone was affected.
Here is a web page dedicated to finding the big fella.
http://www.bfro.net/ (http://www.bfro.net/)
They have a link for sounds, videos, ect
http://www.bfro.net/REF/bfmedia.asp (http://www.bfro.net/REF/bfmedia.asp)
If they ever do find a Sasquatch, I hope they leave them alone.
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You've never heard of Philip Morris (maker of the suit used in Patterson's film) or Bob Heironimus (the guy that wore the suit).
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Yeah, and their story didn't add up either.
Exactly, you can read all about it here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patterson-Gimlin_film
The stories debunking the video have no more credibility than the ones upholding it.
There is just no way to either prove or disprove the video.
A few red flags are that he was interested in the whole bigfoot thing and wanted to make a movie about it before he ever went out there, but then again it makes sense that he would be go where people reported sightings.
For me, this possibly, but not definitely faked video doesn't outweigh the lack of any other physical evidence.
I lean towards Bigfoot = BS, but I'll still allow for a slim possibility.
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Show me a picture (besides the patterson film) show me a skeleton, show me SOMETHING. AFAIAC it's in the same category as the loch ness monster.
Maybe sasquatch is actually Jimmy Hoffa. I found him!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigantopithecus
Want fossil evidents of it's possibility,there you go 1 of several large homnids that walked the planet at some point.
I'm not saying this is what "bigfoot" is just a possibility,the version supposedly in Viet Nam is reported to be much smaller.
Wouldnt be the first time a supossed "extinct" animal or "fabled" animal was found to be real!
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www.google.com
Have at it.
You keep on saying that Bigfoot is real, but when it comes to proving it you're telling me to go look it up?
Bad form my friend, bad form. If you want to prove Bigfoot's existence to me, you're gonna have to do the research.
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Last night on Ancient Aliens they suggested that Bigfoot is an experiment or some kind of criminal put here by ETs.
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You keep on saying that Bigfoot is real, but when it comes to proving it you're telling me to go look it up?
Bad form my friend, bad form. If you want to prove Bigfoot's existence to me, you're gonna have to do the research.
I'm not your friend. I'm not here convince you of anything. The question was posed, do you believe it exists. My answer is yes for many reasons, some of which I've stated. When I decided to explore the possibility of Sasquatch, I put my own time and effort in to researching it and formed my own opinions, none of which proves anything. You are of the opinion a film from 1967 was Photoshoped. That's kind of an indicator to me that you might not get a damn thing no matter how much effort I go to, to explain it. If you honestly want to know it's not hard to find what you're looking for.
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Last night on Ancient Aliens they suggested that Bigfoot is an experiment or some kind of criminal put here by ETs.
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A bunch of aliens dressed as Elvis I reckon.
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Hunters by the 1000s go into the forests of N. America every year. They shoot every kind of game animal out there, including other hunters!...yet not one single Bigfoot body. Not one. It does not exist, the films are either hoaxed or an animal, as are the hair samples, sound samples and eyewitness accounts. The forest is a dark and mysterious place, you hear and see all kinds of things, but its animals, not Sasquatch.
Man has been in the forest for 100,000+ years. Stories past down from generation to generation in every culture results in every kind of legend and myth. Its natural. Its expected in fact. You see a bear or lion, or wolf in the woods that roars at you in the dark, you retell that tale 1000 times? 10,000 times? and you get Sasquatch or some other beast. It was a bear, wolf, ect. Thats it. Its a fish tale.
The ET, Bigfoot, Ghost, Area 51 people get into a circle and tell each other they are real because they want them to be real. Its not science. Its religion. "We beleive" they say...well yes they do...but that doesn't make it (or them) real. I can say the moon is made out of blue cheese....its not? and im supposed to make you prove its not? umm...no. Thats not how its done. Every moon- barking-theorist seems to think we have to disprove their whimsical, and ever more and increasingly bizarre...fantasies, otherwise thats somehow "evidence", again, umm, no.
...I will beleive in Sasquatch when they capture or kill one. Im not expecting the day to arrive any time soon. Actually never to be precise. Same as ETs. Call me when they land and say hi.
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I'm not your friend. I'm not here convince you of anything. The question was posed, do you believe it exists. My answer is yes for many reasons, some of which I've stated. When I decided to explore the possibility of Sasquatch, I put my own time and effort in to researching it and formed my own opinions, none of which proves anything. You are of the opinion a film from 1967 was Photoshoped. That's kind of an indicator to me that you might not get a damn thing no matter how much effort I go to, to explain it. If you honestly want to know it's not hard to find what you're looking for.
If you arent tring to prove anything here then why do you constantly try to tell me why Bigfoot is real? As for the film being photoshopped, I never said it was. I said that anyone could fake a film. Photoshopping it is just an option.
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If you arent tring to prove anything here then why do you constantly try to tell me why Bigfoot is real? As for the film being photoshopped, I never said it was. I said that anyone could fake a film. Photoshopping it is just an option.
Really? I've constantly told you why it's real? I've made myself pretty clear on what my opinion is and that I'm not here to prove its existence. Pay very close attention, I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK. And yes, you implied the film was Photoshoped.
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Really? I've constantly told you why it's real? I've made myself pretty clear on what my opinion is and that I'm not here to prove its existence. Pay very close attention, I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK. And yes, you implied the film was Photoshoped.
You've given me the film and your opinions. That's not saying why its real, its saying why you think it's real.
Also if you don't care then why don't you just stop posting.
It would make sense...
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You've given me the film and your opinions. That's not saying why its real, its saying why you think it's real.
Also if you don't care then why don't you just stop posting.
It would make sense...
have you looked at the Baby in New York vid yet?
there is most certainly something .......a primate baby..... swinging around in the trees.....
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have you looked at the Baby in New York vid yet?
there is most certainly something .......a primate baby..... swinging around in the trees.....
Never even heard of it.
If there is some chimp/ape/monkey (or whatever else it could be) swinging from tree to tree in New York, it wouldn't surprise me. Some fool probably had an exotic pet like that and set it free.
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Never even heard of it.
If there is some chimp/ape/monkey (or whatever else it could be) swinging from tree to tree in New York, it wouldn't surprise me. Some fool probably had an exotic pet like that and set it free.
That could be one explanation...except it is riding the back of a much larger one that lifts it up into the trees.....
serious if you want to open that mind up a bit search on youtube for "baby Sasquatch in new york" it is not proof positive...but it really is crazy....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIwgbRXgFA0
someone said its a leaf....haha like a leaf would be that big from that far away.....
something is definitely swinging around in the trees....and it was lifted up into them by a larger one.
another one of the baby....but its more in depth I guess havnt watched it yet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWIBPpwFp-g
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You've given me the film and your opinions. That's not saying why its real, its saying why you think it's real.
Also if you don't care then why don't you just stop posting.
It would make sense...
Right, because you have some say so in when I should or should not speak.
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Right, because you have some say so in when I should or should not speak.
You must care if you keep on replying.
So, are you contradicting yourself here?
That could be one explanation...except it is riding the back of a much larger one that lifts it up into the trees.....
serious if you want to open that mind up a bit search on youtube for "baby Sasquatch in new york" it is not proof positive...but it really is crazy....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIwgbRXgFA0
someone said its a leaf....haha like a leaf would be that big from that far away.....
something is definitely swinging around in the trees....and it was lifted up into them by a larger one.
another one of the baby....but its more in depth I guess havnt watched it yet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWIBPpwFp-g
As for this, I don't think its a relative of Bigfoot. I'd much rather believe the story of some guy letting out an exotic pet like a monkey a while back. Dunno if it'll survive on just leaves from the trees in New York, but it is possible.
And some guy thinking it's a leaf? LOL. Right. Ok.
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You must care if you keep on replying.
So, are you contradicting yourself here?
As for this, I don't think its a relative of Bigfoot. I'd much rather believe the story of some guy letting out an exotic pet like a monkey a while back. Dunno if it'll survive on just leaves from the trees in New York, but it is possible.
And some guy thinking it's a leaf? LOL. Right. Ok.
Because I don't care what you believe I contradict myself by replying? I reply because I'm a confrontational person by nature. I do try to remain some what civil, but confrontational just the same.
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That could be one explanation...except it is riding the back of a much larger one that lifts it up into the trees.....
serious if you want to open that mind up a bit search on youtube for "baby Sasquatch in new york" it is not proof positive...but it really is crazy....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIwgbRXgFA0
The quality of that video is simply atrocious. I do not see the "much larger" one lifting it up into the tree. That does look somewhat like a leaf in the wind but the video is such crap that we'll never know. Also I find it hard to believe that one of what if real is the most elusive animal in North America(and possibly territorial to boot) would walk right up to the outskirts of what is obviously an active campground with people partying and camp fires everywhere and let one of their young have a frolic.
Here's my beef with the bigfoot thing. If they were supposedly just in some isolated area in the high country of the Pacific Northwest I could find it plausible, but now these things are supposedly everywhere yet still no hard evidence.
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Because I don't care what you believe I contradict myself by replying? I reply because I'm a confrontational person by nature. I do try to remain some what civil, but confrontational just the same.
You said you didn't care, so it implies that you don't want anything to do with what I say. By that means you shouldn't be replying to my posts because you just don't care. But instead you reply, thus meaning that you care.
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You said you didn't care, so it implies that you don't want anything to do with what I say. By that means you shouldn't be replying to my posts because you just don't care. But instead you reply, thus meaning that you care.
In what post have I tried to convince you it's real? I think it's perfectly fine you don;t think it is. But I also think you're a dick like Tupac so I respond out of confrontation.
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In what post have I tried to convince you it's real? I think it's perfectly fine you don;t think it is. But I also think you're a dick like Tupac so I respond out of confrontation.
So you're saying you don't have control over your own mind...? Or do you just get the feeling to reply to just about everything?
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So you're saying you don't have control over your own mind...? Or do you just get the feeling to reply to just about everything?
I reply because I choose to Freud. You have issues with the uptake of information don't you?
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The quality of that video is simply atrocious. I do not see the "much larger" one lifting it up into the tree. That does look somewhat like a leaf in the wind but the video is such crap that we'll never know. Also I find it hard to believe that one of what if real is the most elusive animal in North America(and possibly territorial to boot) would walk right up to the outskirts of what is obviously an active campground with people partying and camp fires everywhere and let one of their young have a frolic.
Here's my beef with the bigfoot thing. If they were supposedly just in some isolated area in the high country of the Pacific Northwest I could find it plausible, but now these things are supposedly everywhere yet still no hard evidence.
I don't know......I like to think they are real.....but I don't know... I hope they are
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You've never heard of Philip Morris (maker of the suit used in Patterson's film) or Bob Heironimus (the guy that wore the suit).
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BH has been thoroughly discredited . PM has yet to make a reproduction of the suit .
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Exactly, you can read all about it here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patterson-Gimlin_film
The stories debunking the video have no more credibility than the ones upholding it.
There is just no way to either prove or disprove the video.
A few red flags are that he was interested in the whole bigfoot thing and wanted to make a movie about it before he ever went out there, but then again it makes sense that he would be go where people reported sightings.
For me, this possibly, but not definitely faked video doesn't outweigh the lack of any other physical evidence.
I lean towards Bigfoot = BS, but I'll still allow for a slim possibility.
Really wiki is your best evidence debunking it ?
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That could be one explanation...except it is riding the back of a much larger one that lifts it up into the trees.....
serious if you want to open that mind up a bit search on youtube for "baby Sasquatch in new york" it is not proof positive...but it really is crazy....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIwgbRXgFA0
someone said its a leaf....haha like a leaf would be that big from that far away.....
something is definitely swinging around in the trees....and it was lifted up into them by a larger one.
another one of the baby....but its more in depth I guess havnt watched it yet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWIBPpwFp-g
What am I supposed to be looking at, the mullet or the cluster of leaves blowing in the wind?
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The quality of that video is simply atrocious. I do not see the "much larger" one lifting it up into the tree. That does look somewhat like a leaf in the wind but the video is such crap that we'll never know. Also I find it hard to believe that one of what if real is the most elusive animal in North America(and possibly territorial to boot) would walk right up to the outskirts of what is obviously an active campground with people partying and camp fires everywhere and let one of their young have a frolic.
Here's my beef with the bigfoot thing. If they were supposedly just in some isolated area in the high country of the Pacific Northwest I could find it plausible, but now these things are supposedly everywhere yet still no hard evidence.
DNA is that hard evidence ? Unknown hominid has been seen as a result several times .
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What am I supposed to be looking at, the mullet or the cluster of leaves blowing in the wind?
There's an enhanced version of that video. It's someone/something swinging in that tree.
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What am I supposed to be looking at, the mullet or the cluster of leaves blowing in the wind?
here is a better one that cuts out all but the top where the creature's are :aok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWIBPpwFp-g
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doubters explain this :O.....holy crap I just found this...never saw it before.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ_lbVCVd48
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Well after seeing this one I think I'm gonna have to eat my words
Just look at the tendons shiver and the body proportions. No way no how is this a guy in a suit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_78onokOzgE&feature=endscreen
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The best one is where they put his hand in warm water.