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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Torquila on December 11, 2012, 02:34:27 PM
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"Added bomb bay drop to the Me 410."
What exactly does this mean?
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U have to press "o" to open the Bombay just like a bomber.
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It was like that in the previous version as well :furious
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moin
i think the extra 500kg bombs are ment. thay are new. bevor we only have the 250kg bombs.
cu christian
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Ah, makes sense; yes we only had single 500kg's before. I knew something felt awsome about them (Other then being SAP).
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It was supposed to be "bomb bay drag". Fingers were typing on autopilot.
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Or are you just not comfortable typing in drag?
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Or are you just not comfortable typing in drag?
Give him a break, he forgot his wig and lipstick at home today. :D
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Great! Thanks for the clarification Pyro!
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Does this mean you added a 2x 500kg bombload option? This wasn't there before, but I didn't spot a mention of it in the changelog.
The drag on this would be very minor, though, since the doors were only propped open a small amount.
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I believe the Me410 now has a two 500kg SAP loadout available for the bomb bay.
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They shouldn't be SAP. They should be thin shelled HE. Low Casing, or whatever the term was. They were SD500, I believe, and took up a very small amount of room compared to the standard 500kg bombs found on Ju88s, etc.
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They shouldn't be SAP. They should be thin shelled HE. Low Casing, or whatever the term was. They were SD500, I believe, and took up a very small amount of room compared to the standard 500kg bombs found on Ju88s, etc.
They should be SAP as the D in SD stands for Dickwand = litterally "thick wall". A 500kg SD bomb has much less HE filling than it's SC counterpart, between 75 and 180kg depending on variant, compared to the ~250kg of a SC bomb. And this is why it was taking up less volume in the bomb bay.
This bomb was often used against semi-hard targets which required some additional penetration like multi-story factory buildings, iron structures and so on. The SD-500E variant could penetrate 50mm of armour steel.
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They shouldn't be SAP. They should be thin shelled HE. Low Casing, or whatever the term was. They were SD500, I believe, and took up a very small amount of room compared to the standard 500kg bombs found on Ju88s, etc.
High capacity bombs are larger, not smaller, as the explosives don't weigh as much as steel casing for the same volume. That they took up a small amount of room compared to the standard 500kg bomb supports their having been think shelled SAP or AP bombs.
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They should be SAP as the D in SD stands for Dickwand = litterally "thick wall". A 500kg SD bomb has much less HE filling than it's SC counterpart, between 75 and 180kg depending on variant, compared to the ~250kg of a SC bomb. And this is why it was taking up less volume in the bomb bay.
This bomb was often used against semi-hard targets which required some additional penetration like multi-story factory buildings, iron structures and so on. The SD-500E variant could penetrate 50mm of armour steel.
Sorry for the very late response to this, I lost track of it.
Well perhaps the D does stand for thick wall, I do seem to get my SC and SD mixed up at times, but I did double check this one and the SD is smaller in size than the SC, while still maintaining almost the same explosive content.
SC500:
Info: http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/sc500.html
Image:
(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/sc500-1.jpg)
SD500:
Info: http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/sd500.htm
Image:
(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/sd500-1.jpg)
The SD has approx 200kg of filling for a total 535kg weight (metal casing included) while the SC has 220kg of filling for a total of 500kg weight (metal casing included). What's more the SD500 has a smaller diameter and fins that are no larger than the body itself, while the SC500 fins extend out from the body noticably. It wasn't that the bombs were too big, just that the fins were. (Similar to the F-22 and F35 planes of today, they need AIM-120Cs, which have smaller fins so they fit inside the launch bays)
I also have a quote from one publication (which I've posted before on Me410 threads) which I've posted before that says explicitly the SC500 required the bomb bay doors to be ajar slightly, while the SD500 would fit with them closed.
(http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/zz63/krustacious/Me410%20scans/me410_sd500s.jpg)
This is a bomb with just about the same explosive content as the SC500, but a narrower set of fins and different body shape allowing it to fit inside the bomb bay. It wasn't a cluster bomb, and it wasn't an armor piercing bomb. It was a different body.
That's the bomb that AH should model for it. It's the 500kg bomb most likely to have been loaded on a 410.
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The SD has approx 200kg of filling for a total 535kg weight (metal casing included) while the SC has 220kg of filling for a total of 500kg weight (metal casing included).
There was only one version of the SD-500 with "approximately" (as your source calls it") 200kg, and that was actually the SD-500 at 180kg I mentioned in my post. The majority of the main SD-500 had less filling, down to 75kg. The yalso had very much differing sizes, from 396mm diameter to 447 mm diameter and 1744mm total length to 2022mm total length. The aforementioned SD-500A with 180kg filling was the biggest one. The website you give is giving very genrealized weigths and dimensions.