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General Forums => Achievement System => Topic started by: Moelders on December 16, 2012, 06:50:50 AM
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For anyone that thinks that they need to have an achievement named after them in a video game (see various threads in this forum).
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For anyone that thinks that they need to have an achievement named after them in a video game (see various threads in this forum).
Being a fellow history enthusiast, I'm hopeful that my contribution to one of those other threads wasn't received in this way and recognized for what it was ...... a fairly safe assumption that the 87 a6m kills achievement will be the Hiroyoshi Nishizawa achievement and my avatar is a pic of the real Nishizawa and could be used as Preddy's pic was.
Admittedly, taking on the name of Japan's highest scoring ace may show a bit of ego ..... but I've wore this nick for more than 10 years and I love to turn fight and the Zeke is my favorite ride.... so I've "paid some dues" during that time. Werner "Vatti" Moelders was a very worthy namesake in his own right from all I've read.
:salute Nishizwa
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hopefully they can add killjoy / humbug award for all those deserving grumpy types who have nothing better to do but complain. :aok
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hopefully they can add killjoy / humbug award for all those deserving grumpy types who have nothing better to do but complain. :aok
Hundreds will achieve that within an hour of playing. :D
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The Dolby Award - Set 7.1 surroound for AcesHigh
Yay! Ego, there you are! :banana:
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hopefully they can add killjoy / humbug award for all those deserving grumpy types who have nothing better to do but complain. :aok
I think the HUMBUG! achievemt should be awarded to those playing for at least 10 hours during the Christmas days... :old:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3XsnSEMock
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All those guys who only get shot down because you didn't check their 6 while they were trying to clear your 12.
It's not their fault they got shot down, it's either your fault for not helping or the enemy's fault because they cheated.
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All those guys who only get shot down because you didn't check their 6 while they were trying to clear your 12.
It's not their fault they got shot down, it's either your fault for not helping or the enemy's fault because they picked.
Fixed (even though it does not exist).
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Fixed (even though it does not exist).
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you are funny......saying a pick does not exist is like saying a HO does not exist.......
a pick is simply killing an nme on your friendlies 6.....it happens all the time, yet you say it don't exist........
it is just a word describing the act of clearing a friendlies 6......
every time you say it don't exist.....well.....ill end there so I don't insult your intelligence.
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Fixed (even though it does not exist).
Picked means the same thing as cheated to these morons in question.
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I know. They dont understand that the brilliant moves they normally make all go away when they go into tumbleweed mode and so their only excuse is this "picked" whine. Picked does not exist. Tumbleweed exists.
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I know. They dont understand that the brilliant moves they normally make all go away when they go into tumbleweed mode and so their only excuse is this "picked" whine. Picked does not exist. Tumbleweed exists.
my word man......you are a special one :aok
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The glass is always full ink. Every whine is only an excuse because success and survival are always possible.
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The glass is always full ink. Every whine is only an excuse because success and survival are always possible.
Could you successfully survive a 1 on 1 duel with ink?
The Ink Survival Award. :banana:
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Ink is one of the best ki pilots out there, however even I beat him once!
Yes, I remember it well, he was behind me in his ki, and I opened the cockpit, and threw my shoe at him, said shoe got stuck to his windscreen so he couldn't see, then I threw some seeds and water out of my k4 and grew a tree in front of him.
(http://www.dirtybutton.com/media/db2438-plane-in-a-tree.jpg)
My master plan worked like a charm :noid
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The glass is always full ink. Every whine is only an excuse because success and survival are always possible.
I know what you are saying...I do...and I even understand it......if you are picked it was YOUR fault.....which I agree with completely......
but it is what it is....a pick.....which in my book is totally different then say...a vulch......
Could you successfully survive a 1 on 1 duel with ink?
The Ink Survival Award. :banana:
thats funny...I have been playing Farcry 3....I am not kidding....there is a giant "Ink monster" you have to kill.....when I saw that I laughed m arse off
Ink is one of the best ki pilots out there, however even I beat him once!
Yes, I remember it well, he was behind me in his ki, and I opened the cockpit, and threw my shoe at him, said shoe got stuck to his windscreen so he couldn't see, then I threw some seeds and water out of my k4 and grew a tree in front of him.
(http://www.dirtybutton.com/media/db2438-plane-in-a-tree.jpg)
My master plan worked like a charm :noid
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Ink is one of the best ki pilots out there, however even I beat him once!
Yes, I remember it well, he was behind me in his ki, and I opened the cockpit, and threw my shoe at him, said shoe got stuck to his windscreen so he couldn't see, then I threw some seeds and water out of my k4 and grew a tree in front of him.
(http://www.dirtybutton.com/media/db2438-plane-in-a-tree.jpg)
My master plan worked like a charm :noid
Wow. All I did was attack him with my F-29
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Wow. All I did was attack him with my F-29
My F-29 was being repaired by the AK's after they were all kind enough to lend me a few bullets in FSO :old:
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The glass is always full ink. Every whine is only an excuse because success and survival are always possible.
In part to correct what seems to be an erroneous belief and in part to counter a false impression that I disagree with EVERYTHING ink says, I will step in here and say the pick does certainly exist. It matters not that your victim has a "potential" to survive said pick or not.
And me thinks there is more than one form of pick as well. A pick of an already engaged victim, a pick of a lumbering bomber, a pick of a lame duck. The ease of which the kill is obtained seems to be the defining factor.
Everyone does it at some time or another, no sense in being ashamed of it unless it is your only means of getting kills. Call it what it is and move on.
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I know what you are saying...I do...and I even understand it......if you are picked it was YOUR fault.....which I agree with completely......
but it is what it is....a pick.....which in my book is totally different then say...a vulch......
Once again incorrect. In order for something to be a 'pick' as you call it that something would have to be seen the same from two perspectives. First, the pilot doing the shooting, and second, the pilot getting shot. One clearly has his attention focused on something other than the real danger, and so he is tumbleweed blowing in the wind (an easy kill). To say that a 'pick' (tumbleweed) is a 'pick' (as you call it) implies that an easy kill should never be taken.
The term has been so overused that now noobs are calling bnz pilots of every description 'pickers.' This is the same mentality that says HO shots should never be taken, from any angle between 9 and 3 (fore quarter).
Horse hockey! If you go tumbleweed you get shot. There is no such thing as a pick.
EDIT: def. Tumbleweed = A pilot that has lost situational awareness.
So when someone says they got picked what they really mean is they went blind and lost awareness of their surroundings. i.e. They deserved it.
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Once again incorrect. In order for something to be a 'pick' as you call it that something would have to be seen the same from two perspectives. First, the pilot doing the shooting, and second, the pilot getting shot. One clearly has his attention focused on something other than the real danger, and so he is tumbleweed blowing in the wind (an easy kill). To say that a 'pick' (tumbleweed) is a 'pick' (as you call it) implies that an easy kill should never be taken.
The term has been so overused that now noobs are calling bnz pilots of every description 'pickers.' This is the same mentality that says HO shots should never be taken, from any angle between 9 and 3 (fore quarter).
Horse hockey! If you go tumbleweed you get shot. There is no such thing as a pick.
EDIT: def. Tumbleweed = A pilot that has lost situational awareness.
So when someone says they got picked what they really mean is they went blind and lost awareness of their surroundings. i.e. They deserved it.
are you seriously this thick headed?
last time.......a pick is when you shoot a baddie of the 6 of another con...whether it be friendly or nme....
not everyone that gets picked "lost awareness" some just don't care....some think they can kill the con before the picker gets there......
to say there is no such thing is like saying there is no such thing as a Vulch.....or a gang bang....or a dogfight....all just words describing certain activities...that are done in a combat flying game........
what you are arguing is pointless....... and to be honest........its hurting my mind thinking down to this level.....
so whatever....im done with you on this topic....before I lose any more intelligence talking to you.
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And yet I think its you that is being thick headed here. Seriously read a book sometime.
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And yet I think its you that is being thick headed here. Seriously read a book sometime.
pfft
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Once again incorrect. In order for something to be a 'pick' as you call it that something would have to be seen the same from two perspectives. First, the pilot doing the shooting, and second, the pilot getting shot. One clearly has his attention focused on something other than the real danger, and so he is tumbleweed blowing in the wind (an easy kill). To say that a 'pick' (tumbleweed) is a 'pick' (as you call it) implies that an easy kill should never be taken.
The term has been so overused that now noobs are calling bnz pilots of every description 'pickers.' This is the same mentality that says HO shots should never be taken, from any angle between 9 and 3 (fore quarter).
Horse hockey! If you go tumbleweed you get shot. There is no such thing as a pick.
EDIT: def. Tumbleweed = A pilot that has lost situational awareness.
So when someone says they got picked what they really mean is they went blind and lost awareness of their surroundings. i.e. They deserved it.
I thought I settled this already, jeez. :rolleyes:
Ok, I'll tell you again. Your belief is incorrect. As ink already said, you don't have to be unaware that you are about to get picked for it to be called so. You could be in a 5v1 and when one of the 5 finally gets you, you can certainly say you were "picked."
And fyi, BnZ is for the most part a "cherry picking" style of fighting. Of course not all of the players who are best at this style are incapable of fully engaging in a turn and burn fight. The HO comparison is inaccurate as well.
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Of course you two would agree on the victim mentality. Muzik it is obvious from your views on BNZ that you havent got a clue. :rolleyes:
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Of course you two would agree on the victim mentality. Muzik it is obvious from your views on BNZ that you havent got a clue. :rolleyes:
pfft...offer has been made many times...DA is that way.....but like always you are all mouth....with no backbone. :aok
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Ha! Lost the argument and now you want to show how tough you are? Please. . .
By your previously given definition nearly 97% of all kills in the MA are picks. Its nothing more than an excuse.
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And just to reiterate the point, go watch "Unforgiven" and watch carefully the part where the saloon owner gets killed. It doesnt matter what the 'pickee' was thinking, wanting, or doing if he is in the air he is fair game.
I know why you think like this. Its the same for anyone that comes out of the DA and is still expecting the DA attitude in the MA. We it just isnt so. So pull your head out and take it like a man.
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Of course you two would agree on the victim mentality. Muzik it is obvious from your views on BNZ that you havent got a clue. :rolleyes:
You sir are the one who is in denial and clueless. As a matter of fact amateur one, there is nothing you could teach me about "fighting" in this game.
I have no "victim mentality" what so ever. I recently defended "picking" in another thread. I see it as it is and make no excuses for it if I do it myself. You on the other hand sound as if picking is the only way you can land kills, hence your struggle to give more credibility to the flying style than it actually deserves. If that is your style, live up to it. Many talented pickers did long before you came along. Your not fooling anyone with your attempts to rationalize it to your extreme any more than when others go to the other extreme and say picking is completely lame and should never happen.
By your previously given definition nearly 97% of all kills in the MA are picks. Its nothing more than an excuse.
As it was in wartime. Live with it, it's a truth and the truth shall set you free.
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Ha! Lost the argument and now you want to show how tough you are? Please. . .
By your previously given definition nearly 97% of all kills in the MA are picks. Its nothing more than an excuse.
haha of course I knew that would be your answer.....
and how could I prove I was "tough" by flying a cartoon game?????
that one got me shaking my head........
but it shows how sad you are....you like to think you are good because your score is good......go to DA and I will show you...you are not good at all......just a mouth piece hiding behind his keyboard.
you are like the guy who goes to watch a mma fight and yells insults to the actual fighters about how they cant fight...then go home and beat up 10 year olds to show how much you can fight.
one word.......chump :aok
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(http://nyrb.typepad.com/classics/images/2007/08/26/ohsnap_2.jpg)
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Well at least ink knows what he is (chump).
The reason you are wrong about this is you are unable to define the term in a non-subjective way. You are using the term 'pick' as if there were a victim involved, but at the same time denying there is a victim (as if 'picking' were okay). Your wrong. Anytime you want to shoot someone in the MA is okay. Thats what the MA is. If you dont then someone else will.
As to correcting me about how I think about you by taking me into the DA: your macho horse hockey doesnt wash and never will. You are right-brained (emotional) and I am left-brained (logical). Logic always trumps emotion.
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:rofl :rofl
what can I say....you are right....its ok.....everything is gonna be ok....you are completely right.
there is no such thing as a "pick"........
or a "vulch"......or a "HO shot" or a "front quarter shot" or a .........
you are arguing the validity of the shot not me moron....get a fn clue
be like middy and disappear.....ignore meatwads....check :aok
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I always considered a pick to be attacking an enemy who is currently engaged and does not have the ability or awareness to counteract your attack to any meaningful degree.
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I always considered a pick to be attacking an enemy who is currently engaged and does not have the ability or awareness to counteract your attack to any meaningful degree.
That has always been the definition of a "pick" (a.k.a. "cherry pick").
ack-ack
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That has always been the definition of a "pick" (a.k.a. "cherry pick").
ack-ack
haven't you read...no such thing as a "pick" :confused:
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Meh, My Ki-84 > Ink's Ki-84. :banana:
I'm so good, The only way ink would beat me would to pop up behind me and smash my hekdfrmfddicnddemdjjdnndmsnkk djrkrofjmfofm.
Titan: Terminated.
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Meh, My Ki-84 > Ink's Ki-84. :banana:
I'm so good, The only way ink would beat me would to pop up behind me and smash my hekdfrmfddicnddemdjjdnndmsnkk djrkrofjmfofm.
Titan: Terminated.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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The testosterone level in this thread is outstanding. To be fair you guys are arguing opinions.. In my eyes a pick is when someone gets killed while engaged with someone else. Again, that is my opinion. In a sense you both are correct..
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I'm gonna say that too many people use the work pick.
9/10 times, if one dies, it could have been avoided.
You engaged more fighters than you could handle at once
You lost too much E and couldn't properly disengage
You stayed long beyond the time you should have disengaged
You got target fixated and didn't check your six, or expected others to do it
You got target fixated and didn't care what was on your six
You overestimated your ability to finish off the guy in front of you before the guy on your six could finish you
You underestimated the E state of the con you were saddled up upon and he hung you up like a picture for his wingman
In the MA, one should never-ever assume that you are going to be left alone in a 1 vs 1
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I'm gonna say that too many people use the work pick.
9/10 times, if one dies, it could have been avoided.
You engaged more fighters than you could handle at once
You lost too much E and couldn't properly disengage
You stayed long beyond the time you should have disengaged
You got target fixated and didn't check your six, or expected others to do it
You got target fixated and didn't care what was on your six
You overestimated your ability to finish off the guy in front of you before the guy on your six could finish you
You underestimated the E state of the con you were saddled up upon and he hung you up like a picture for his wingman
In the MA, one should never-ever assume that you are going to be left alone in a 1 vs 1
I agree :aok
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The testosterone level in this thread is outstanding. To be fair you guys are arguing opinions.. In my eyes a pick is when someone gets killed while engaged with someone else. Again, that is my opinion. In a sense you both are correct..
There is no opinion to it, pick is easily definable, the definition is being debated. And the original term cherry pick easily covers more than just your definition.
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There is no opinion to it, pick is easily definable, the definition is being debated. And the original term cherry pick easily covers more than just your definition.
You contradicted yourself there.
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You contradicted yourself there.
I'm not seeing it.
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You contradicted yourself there.
How? An opinion is something that is based on "belief" not fact. A definition is fact, you can't change it because it doesnt agree with your opinion.
I don't know where the term cherry pick originated but even if there is no official definition of it, it will have a definition based on what the majority decide it should be, not what the minority opinion is.
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I don't know where the term cherry pick originated but even if there is no official definition of it, it will have a definition based on what the majority decide it should be, not what the minority opinion is.
In the flight sim community, cherry pick has always meant engaging someone else that is otherwise already engaged. The term is like vulch, which in the original meaning is shooting down someone taking off or landing but now apparently has encompassed being shot down while on the deck at low speed, regardless if the target is taking off or landing.
ack-ack
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pick is easily definable, the definition is being debated.
This.
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This.
What is your point? I said it is easily definable, that fact is just as true as this one ---> people normally have an aversion to doing it the easy way. :D
In the flight sim community, cherry pick has always meant engaging someone else that is otherwise already engaged. The term is like vulch, which in the original meaning is shooting down someone taking off or landing but now apparently has encompassed being shot down while on the deck at low speed, regardless if the target is taking off or landing.
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Agreed. But I would put the vulch example in the cherry pick category. Anything that is virtually helpless as a result of position, damages, overwhelming odds or engagement logically fits the description of "a cherry waiting to be picked."