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Title: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: Nypsy on December 19, 2012, 08:44:13 AM
Holy crap! Is this for real?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=CE0Q904gtMI
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: Karnak on December 19, 2012, 08:52:15 AM
Possibly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VklTs-Tid_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C42-rIiBCTk
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: Mickey1992 on December 19, 2012, 10:23:19 AM
I say fake.  The shadows and the hang time of the toddler once released gives it away.
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: Karnak on December 19, 2012, 10:44:15 AM
I say fake.  The shadows and the hang time of the toddler once released gives it away.
You mean the slow motion at the end of the video?

Shadows didn't look mismatched.  They line up with the shadows from the person and the trees.  Hangtime is purely an artifact of slow motion.
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: ink on December 19, 2012, 10:47:02 AM
 :rofl
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: Nypsy on December 19, 2012, 10:57:58 AM
Possibly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VklTs-Tid_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C42-rIiBCTk

Man...tuff being a goat.
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: Slash27 on December 19, 2012, 11:03:47 AM
Possibly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VklTs-Tid_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C42-rIiBCTk
Holy crap on the wolf kill :eek:
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: Nath[BDP] on December 19, 2012, 11:04:00 AM
not surprising.  i've heard tell of hawks in CT making passes at small dogs on the property of wealthy land owners.  
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: Nathan60 on December 19, 2012, 11:24:25 AM
I didnt know the guy in the free candy van was into falconry(or is it Eaglery?)
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: ebfd11 on December 19, 2012, 12:40:43 PM
Lol hammy when I saw title I was thinking of FBEagle ... Phew glad I was wrong on that one.

CrazLwn
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: The Fugitive on December 19, 2012, 01:14:51 PM
Holy crap! Is this for real?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=CE0Q904gtMI

Guess not READ THIS! (http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/198830/viral-video-of-baby-snatching-eagle-declared-a-fake/)
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: eagl on December 19, 2012, 01:42:14 PM
Fake, but you guys knew that already.
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: Nathan60 on December 19, 2012, 01:43:40 PM
I dont know Fugi you cant trust  everything you see on the net. Is that website verified?
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: TheBug on December 19, 2012, 02:16:37 PM
not surprising.  i've heard tell of hawks in CT making passes at small dogs on the property of wealthy land owners.  

How do the hawks know which land owners are wealthy?   :headscratch:
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: Krupinski on December 19, 2012, 02:19:57 PM
You can see the kid flying under his own power before he is 'dropped'.  :lol
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: Mickey1992 on December 19, 2012, 02:21:03 PM
Hangtime is purely an artifact of slow motion.

Really?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjOljUMc-Nc&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: guncrasher on December 19, 2012, 02:46:58 PM
How do the hawks know which land owners are wealthy?   :headscratch:

the dogs are fat?


midway
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: morfiend on December 19, 2012, 03:05:47 PM
 Soon as I read the video title I knew it's fake because golden eagles are not found in Mountreal!  You might see the odd Bald but never a golden around here.

  I have see some video of Mongolians hunting with eagles,something to see a golden take a wolf down! Once the bird sets it's talons in there's not much that any animal can do. I understand the pressure is very close to that of a pitbull or Rotties jaw pressure. Come to think of it,my money's on the eagle over the dogs!



     :salute
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: BreakingBad on December 19, 2012, 03:22:17 PM
One person posted on youtube

"There is another good reason for having a fat kid"   :lol
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: 68ZooM on December 19, 2012, 04:00:16 PM
I dont know Fugi you cant trust  everything you see on the net. Is that website verified?

Hammy don't you know everything's real on the Internet, how do I know this?  I read it on the internet.
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: Skyguns MKII on December 19, 2012, 04:10:21 PM
found this incredible http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE0Q904gtMI
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: The Fugitive on December 19, 2012, 04:43:10 PM
found this incredible http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE0Q904gtMI

and your posting the same link as the OP why?
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: Maverick on December 19, 2012, 05:32:42 PM
Vid is a hoax.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/video-golden-eagle-snatching-kid-real-181954669.html
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on December 19, 2012, 05:51:27 PM
Ban the eagles! :old:
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: Shifty on December 19, 2012, 07:32:45 PM
How do the hawks know which land owners are wealthy?   :headscratch:

 Easy, they get a bird's eye view of their houses and automobiles.
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: Nathan60 on December 19, 2012, 07:59:04 PM
Hammy don't you know everything's real on the Internet, how do I know this?  I read it on the internet.
Oh sorry.  This is real https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTt7pSav8ts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTt7pSav8ts)
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: mtnman on December 24, 2012, 11:34:03 AM
Oh sorry.  This is real https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTt7pSav8ts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTt7pSav8ts)

I'd wager that this was a set-up as well.
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: skorpx1 on December 24, 2012, 11:43:31 AM
Holy crap! Is this for real?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=CE0Q904gtMI
It's faked, at the 3 second mark the wing disappears for a moment. Later on when the eagle is flying down the shadow doesn't appear until its right next to the ground, it should be there when it's still by the tree.
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: Mar on December 24, 2012, 11:58:07 AM
I could tell it was a phoney just by the way it flapped its wings in those first few seconds.
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: mtnman on December 24, 2012, 12:02:56 PM
It's faked, at the 3 second mark the wing disappears for a moment. Later on when the eagle is flying down the shadow doesn't appear until its right next to the ground, it should be there when it's still by the tree.

I think it's really a sign of the times that this was taken as seriously as it was.  People need to get out and learn at least a little bit about natural history.  Time to break away from the electronic gadgets!  Even if it was only for a minute or two a day it would be a significant improvement!

It's not only the shadow that's wrong, but even more obviously it's a matter of incorrect anatomy and incorrect movement.

The shape of the wings is totally wrong. Even in the beginning few seconds of flight at the start of the video the shape is wrong, and it just gets hokier from there.  The wing shape is wrong for a golden eagle, and the color is wrong for a bald eagle.  The color really isn't even right for a golden, but it looks like that's what the animators have attempted to copy.

As for incorrect movement, for those of us who've seen real golden eagles (or even videos) stooping and binding on a large quarry it's blatantly obvious that all of the movements of the bird in this clip are wrong.  The whole "turn and swoop" sequence is completely incorrect...  It looks more like a model airplane making an unrealistic bank-less turn than any self-respecting bird.  There's absolutely no reason a raptor would make that type of approach to large ground quarry.

Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: Nathan60 on December 24, 2012, 09:42:45 PM
I'd wager that this was a set-up as well.
Yeah but the Hawk was real. I like this obne too was it an omen for Auburn? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvCPk9Gq770 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvCPk9Gq770)
Title: Re: Eagle tries to grab a toddler
Post by: mtnman on December 25, 2012, 12:24:12 PM
Yeah but the Hawk was real. I like this obne too was it an omen for Auburn? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvCPk9Gq770 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvCPk9Gq770)

Yea, I saw that clip too. 

I couldn't care less about Auburn (or whomever), but I'm glad the bird wasn't hurt.  I think the flexibility of the plexi window may have averted tragedy... 

I know of a handful of raptors that have died in window collisions like that.  It's amazing that a bird with the strength of an eagle has such a fragile skull and neck.  I have a friend who almost had one of his hawks killed by hitting a window, and I had a falcon hit a window last year.  Fortunately she was ok too. 

I use my birds for a handful of educational lectures each year, and that clip shows one of the reasons I'm nervous and don't allow my birds to do too much free flying.