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Title: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: Tracerfi on December 19, 2012, 02:51:54 PM
I have tried to research it but came up empty i would appreciate it 
Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: morfiend on December 19, 2012, 02:55:09 PM
 Planes of the Luftwaffe, available at amazon!

  you couldnt have looked very hard,there's tons of imfo out there,google is your friend.



   :salute
Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: The Fugitive on December 19, 2012, 02:57:03 PM
Ya I was going to ask if you knew how to use google.

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=489
Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 19, 2012, 03:40:37 PM
I have tried to research it but came up empty i would appreciate it 

Searching for He 219 using Google yields 346,000,000 results. 

ack-ack
Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: Tracerfi on December 19, 2012, 03:44:45 PM
One more question does it fit the bill to be added ? if so would you guys fly it if it were added
Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: morfiend on December 19, 2012, 03:53:08 PM
Searching for He 219 using Google yields 346,000,000 results. 

ack-ack


   :rofl :rofl :rofl



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Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: Scherf on December 19, 2012, 04:11:20 PM
Best books are by Remp and by Dressel & Griehl. Also, try to register at the Luftwaffe Experten Message Board and track down some of their threads on the 219. One in particular is basically an encyclopedia of all the latest info.

Discount anything you read about 6 Mosquitos in 10 days after Streib's initial sortie - didn't happen.

One more question does it fit the bill to be added ? if so would you guys fly it if it were added

Short answer is no and no. It was used in squadron strenght, however it was a dedicated night-fighter, and we don't have night. Also, take the same engines as are on the Me 410, put them on a larger, heavier aircraft, then put flame dampers on the exhausts and festoon the nose with aerials. Not a winning combination.
Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: Scherf on December 19, 2012, 04:18:51 PM
Searching for He 219 using Google yields 346,000,000 results. 

ack-ack

Sadly, about 345,000,000 of them repeat the same inaccurate BS.
Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: Karnak on December 19, 2012, 04:38:23 PM
I have read that it couldn't break 400mph in service with all of its gear.  It never approached Heinkel's 420mph claim.

That said, it is a very nice looking airplane.
Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: MiloMorai on December 19, 2012, 05:28:02 PM
The 400mph+ speed speed was achieved with a striped a/c. iirc no exhaust shrouding, no antenna, some guns absent.
Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: bozon on December 19, 2012, 05:56:57 PM
The 400mph+ speed speed was achieved with a striped a/c. iirc no exhaust shrouding, no antenna, some guns absent.
and in a vertical dive.
Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: WyoKId on December 19, 2012, 06:45:21 PM
and in a vertical dive.
Could you please describe a non-verticle dive ? Does it involve a hot-water heater ?
Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: palef on December 19, 2012, 08:19:46 PM
One more question does it fit the bill to be added ? if so would you guys fly it if it were added

Once or twice, just to see how it all hangs together and then back to the Storch I'd go.
Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: Denniss on December 19, 2012, 08:26:36 PM
400+ mph was calculated speed for a fully equipped He 219 with Jumo 222 engines, a combination never flown. The fastest He 219 may have been one of the 5 D-1 equipped with Jumo 213E, provided the high-alt stage of the engine didn't broke down.
Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: lyric1 on December 20, 2012, 02:21:39 AM
Some light reading hope you can read German.

http://id.scribd.com/doc/43686093/Heinkel-He-219-From-www-jgokey-com

http://id.scribd.com/doc/17332572/WaffenArsenal-Band-73-Heinkel-He-219-Uhu-Bester-Nachtjager-des-Zweiten-Weltkrieges

http://id.scribd.com/doc/97970682/S076-Waffen-Arsenal-Sonderband-Heinkel-He-219-UHU-A

http://id.scribd.com/doc/97969701/S056-Waffen-Arsenal-Sonderband-Nachtjager-uber-Deutschland
Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: Charge on December 20, 2012, 10:15:24 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Heinkel-He-219-Illustrated-Nightfighter/dp/0764312294/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1356019495&sr=8-1&keywords=heinkel+219

-C+
Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: Scherf on December 20, 2012, 02:55:12 PM
There's also this one:

http://www.wingleader.co.uk/product-p/he219rp.htm

Sample here:

https://www.wingleader.co.uk/v/vspfiles/assets/images/he219samplepages.pdf
Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: Denniss on December 20, 2012, 06:05:22 PM
There's also this one: http://www.wingleader.co.uk/product-p/he219rp.htm
It has been suggested by other forums, if you read this book about the He 219 you'll throw all other He 219 books overboard.
Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: Scherf on December 20, 2012, 06:09:59 PM
I think it addresses errors and gaps in other books, but I don't think it tells the whole story on its own.
Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: Scherf on December 26, 2012, 07:56:22 PM
Some light reading hope you can read German.

http://id.scribd.com/doc/43686093/Heinkel-He-219-From-www-jgokey-com

http://id.scribd.com/doc/17332572/WaffenArsenal-Band-73-Heinkel-He-219-Uhu-Bester-Nachtjager-des-Zweiten-Weltkrieges

http://id.scribd.com/doc/97970682/S076-Waffen-Arsenal-Sonderband-Heinkel-He-219-UHU-A

http://id.scribd.com/doc/97969701/S056-Waffen-Arsenal-Sonderband-Nachtjager-uber-Deutschland

Thanks for the links. FWIW, Nowarra's book says that with radar aerials and flame dampeners, the top speed of production-series He 219s was 560 km/h at 6,200m, which by my reckoning is 350 mph at 20,150 feet. At 8,200m the speed was 500 km/h, again by my reckoning 313 mph at 26,650 feet.
Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: Denniss on December 27, 2012, 02:42:42 PM
Is it really OK to link to pirated books here?
Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: Nathan60 on December 27, 2012, 03:04:49 PM
Arrrre thoes pirated?
Title: Re: Does anyone have info on the HE 219
Post by: Denniss on December 28, 2012, 03:35:12 AM
Arrrre thoes pirated?
Yes, at least there's nowhere qan information the uploader has permission to upload a scanned copy. Some of these publications are still sold and are still copyrighted. Does not change the partial bad/wrong/outdated information contained in this publications though.