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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Seanaldinho on December 25, 2012, 07:48:15 PM
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I am going to start carrying a pocket knife to school with me if it turns out to be legal in florida. ( I got it for Christmas) The blade is less than 4 inches and it is not mechanically driven. What concerns me is: 1. It looks kind of "tactical" black aluminum handle and black stainless steel blade. 2. It has a glass breaker on the end that may scare some. ( Im not gonna be flashing it around or anything, just clipped inside my jean pocket)
Anyone have experience with this stuff?
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I carry a knife every day and nobody has said anything. College campuses aren't nearly as uptight as high school campuses about this kind of thing. Firearms, well that's another story.
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the college I went to considered a pocket knife a "weapon", and any and all weapons were forbidden on the campus, including your personal vehicle. :mad: I didn't agree with it, but what are you going to do? lol May want to check campus regulations. But I carried one all through school as I NEVER showed or told ANYONE :devil
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the college I went to considered a pocket knife a "weapon", and any and all weapons were forbidden on the campus, including your personal vehicle. :mad: I didn't agree with it, but what are you going to do? lol May want to check campus regulations. But I carried one all through school as I NEVER showed or told ANYONE :devil
I checked their website and found nothing mentioning it.
I have seen other people with them, but if I do it...
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May want to give the campus police a call and see what they say about knives. No need to get kicked out for a missed rule.
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No need to get kicked out for a missed rule.
Exactly my concern
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I remember the good old days where most boys in grade school had pocket knives on them. Wasn't a problem back 25-30 years ago. Now your expelled :headscratch:
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BigRat
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Carried a folding buck knife on my belt for years. Never had a problem.
I carried one so long that now to this day if I use one. I instinctively try to stuff it into my cell phone pouch after using one.
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At Virginia tech at least in the Corps of Cadets a ton of people carry pockets knives around. Virginia tech of all places.
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Three things i always have on my person: wallet, cell phone, and a Case folding knife. I'd recommend one you could keep in your pocket and not on your belt where it is more easily visible. Its probably one of those things that would cause a problem for you only if you were caught with it in the open, but is not actively searched for like a gun or drugs.
My Dad remembers being able to keep their deer rifles and bird shotguns in their trucks as early as Highschool! It was common for the local boys to hunt right before or after classes and no one thought anything of it. When I was in a HS, an older guy got expelled for having a piece of a gun in his truck. Not the entire gun, but only a piece that was obviously of no harm.
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I carry one everyday. Of course I also carry two to three firearms with me as well :neener:
(should be noted I go to school for "Gunsmithing", so I am permitted to do so :angel:)
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i carry a pocket knife with me all the time. it's clipped inside my right front pocket. it lives there, regardless of where i go, or what i'm doing....except for getting on an airplane......and i don't take the airlines to go anywhere anymore.
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Never carried a knife alone, But I carry a Leatherman with a locking blade on it. Never really think about it.
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The point here isn't "what you do". You can carry a sherman tank in your pocket for all I care. It also doesn't matter what you did when "you were in school", especially if you were in school over 30 years ago like me.
The point here is to check the rules and regulations at the school you are looking to go about "armed" at. Face it, MOST schools these days are going to consider that a weapon and will have rules about them. Asking on a BBS isn't going to get you an answer, only opinions, unless one of the board members from your school are present here.
It seems to me that the OP is thinking it might NOT be ok to carry this knife at school and is looking some sort of validation to do so. Even if a couple hundred of us thinks it is ok to carry it, it won't stop them from kicking you out of school if it IS against their rules.
But hey, it's your choice.
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I am going to start carrying a pocket knife to school with me if it turns out to be legal in florida. ( I got it for Christmas) The blade is less than 4 inches and it is not mechanically driven. What concerns me is: 1. It looks kind of "tactical" black aluminum handle and black stainless steel blade. 2. It has a glass breaker on the end that may scare some. ( Im not gonna be flashing it around or anything, just clipped inside my jean pocket)
Anyone have experience with this stuff?
What school?
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My question is why you feel the need to carry a knife in school? Protection from other people carrying knives?
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Funny thing about a knife being considered a weapon? one can do lots more physical damage with a simple bic pen or a pencil, or even just their car key, than they can with a little pocket knife.
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Even if you find it's legal from the school conduct codes to carry a knife. If you are adjudicated for any reason by the campus police or campus quasi legal system. You may find yourself quickly guilty without recource to proving your innocense. At anytime another student seeing your knife can report to the campus they feel threatened by the existance of the knife in your pocket. Then it will take on a life of it's own.
You will find colleges in the US post one set of rules but, operate on another that suits their frame of reference at any moment.
Rule of thumb on college campuses. Don't scare the natives. They are vindictive and their legal systems are rigged to screw you the moment a complaint is filed. Nothing is tollerated but compliance unless you have a good lawyer.
Read at this web site to understand why you need to be very carful.
http://thefire.org/
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Funny thing about a knife being considered a weapon? one can do lots more physical damage with a simple bic pen or a pencil, or even just their car key, than they can with a little pocket knife.
Or even just the car!
Had a friend once almost get in trouble for having a shovel in the back of his truck. His response "I could do more damage with the truck...." which then left the school official :O as he drove off.
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Carry a baseball bat with you. Thats legal.
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Or even just the car!
Had a friend once almost get in trouble for having a shovel in the back of his truck. His response "I could do more damage with the truck...." which then left the school official :O as he drove off.
Wonder how they would react to the one on my hood, then...
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I remember the good old days where most boys in grade school had pocket knives on them. Wasn't a problem back 25-30 years ago. Now your expelled :headscratch:
:salute
BigRat
I can remember it was pretty common to see a shotgun or rifle in the window of somebody's truck at school
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Want to have a pocket knife? Keep it in your pocket.
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I remember the good old days where most boys in grade school had pocket knives on them. Wasn't a problem back 25-30 years ago. Now your expelled :headscratch:
:salute
BigRat
that's what i remember. i always had my boyscout knife in my pocket. it's only been the last 15 or so years that i've switched to a clip type where it's clipped just inside my pocket.
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You may want to be very very careful. Give your campus police/security a ring or better yet show up in person and verify with them. Every campus is different and every campus has their own set of rules.
I recently graduated from undergrad at a school in Springfield, MA which is a top 10 most dangerous city in the US. My school had its own police force which were rotated cops through the Massachusetts state police. I never felt I needed to carry a weapon as they constantly patrolled the campus and were actual state police officers. I actually ordered domino's one night and when I went outside the guy was being arrested by the campus police. Dont ask me what this guy did but I got my food free that night needless to say. 8 cops were pulled up, all campus police and had guns drawn. A few of them had shotguns drawn on top of that. I remember seeing them pull a rifle what looked like a m16 out of the guy's trunk but probably was a AR-15 being that it looks like a m16. Not trying to start the gun topic in here but just dont want encourage questioning on what it might be.
You shouldnt have to feel the need to carry a knife around on campus. That can only encourage questioning if others see it. Remember when going to a college, everyone comes from different backgrounds and raised differently. They may feel extra edgy when they see someone carrying a weapon around. At my undergrad, you werent allowed to carry a weapon period. No knives, guns, etc. Hell kids were kicked off campus for having knives on my campus. They werent necessarily kicked out of school but werent allowed to live in the dorms.
Just saying, if you feel the need to carry a weapon in college, you may want to rethink where you go to school. Not trying to stir an argument here but you should feel safe where you go to school considering I am assuming you take everything into consideration where you decide to go to study. Most schools should want you to feel comfortable considering that is where you will live 80% of the year assuming you dont live at home. I am sorry but if I can feel completely safe on a campus located in a city ranked in the top 10 as most dangerous in the country and I didnt carry a weapon, you shouldnt need to carry one either.
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You may want to be very very careful. Give your campus police/security a ring or better yet show up in person and verify with them. Every campus is different and every campus has their own set of rules.
I recently graduated from undergrad at a school in Springfield, MA which is a top 10 most dangerous city in the US. My school had its own police force which were rotated cops through the Massachusetts state police. I never felt I needed to carry a weapon as they constantly patrolled the campus and were actual state police officers. I actually ordered domino's one night and when I went outside the guy was being arrested by the campus police. Dont ask me what this guy did but I got my food free that night needless to say. 8 cops were pulled up, all campus police and had guns drawn. A few of them had shotguns drawn on top of that. I remember seeing them pull a rifle what looked like a m16 out of the guy's trunk but probably was a AR-15 being that it looks like a m16. Not trying to start the gun topic in here but just dont want encourage questioning on what it might be.
You shouldnt have to feel the need to carry a knife around on campus. That can only encourage questioning if others see it. Remember when going to a college, everyone comes from different backgrounds and raised differently. They may feel extra edgy when they see someone carrying a weapon around. At my undergrad, you werent allowed to carry a weapon period. No knives, guns, etc. Hell kids were kicked off campus for having knives on my campus. They werent necessarily kicked out of school but werent allowed to live in the dorms.
Just saying, if you feel the need to carry a weapon in college, you may want to rethink where you go to school. Not trying to stir an argument here but you should feel safe where you go to school considering I am assuming you take everything into consideration where you decide to go to study. Most schools should want you to feel comfortable considering that is where you will live 80% of the year assuming you dont live at home. I am sorry but if I can feel completely safe on a campus located in a city ranked in the top 10 as most dangerous in the country and I didnt carry a weapon, you shouldnt need to carry one either.
I hope that was put there to make us all chuckle...
Why does a knife have to be considered a weapon? Can't it be just a tool? What if I need to open a package, trim my shoelaces or open a letter?
Has it actually come to this in our world? Must folks fill out forms, in triplicate, just to have a pocket knife?
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I hope that was put there to make us all chuckle...
Why does a knife have to be considered a weapon? Can't it be just a tool? What if I need to open a package, trim my shoelaces or open a letter?
Has it actually come to this in our world? Must folks fill out forms, in triplicate, just to have a pocket knife?
Ok well it was top 10 when I started undergrad. It fell to 12th. http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2011/05/springfield_ranked_12th_most_d.html
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With the huge amount of common items that can double as deadly weapons, there really isn't any reason to carry something that will get you into trouble.
Anyone in a higher learning curriculum should possess enough brainpower to find a solution that exists within the rules of the campus.
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I usually have a Buck 110 in my pocket, never had any problems. Just remember to tell the truth if a cop asks you if you have any weapons on you, I had the smallest swiss army knife available confiscated in college because they considered it a deadly weapon. They decided to arrest me over it nearly 2 years after the fact.
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Would it be safer to carry a piece of obsidian around so I can knapp an edge on it if I need to cut something?
I cannot believe that I am actually reading posts about a pocket knife being a deadly weapon. Anything can be a deadly weapon if used to assail someone. I'm sure one could do some damage with a pizza cutter if so inclined. I could use the shovel or hi-lift jack on my hood to create some damage. Does that make them deadly weapons? I could also use the shackles on my bumper as a set of brass knuckles, now that I think about it. Even better, I could use the cable from my winch as a garrote. :rolleyes:
Cell phone, wallet, keys and pocket knife. This is standard inventory when I walk out the door for work every morning.
How and when did people get so nanny-fied?
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because its plainly going to be carried as a weapon. you dont need a 4" blade to open the package the DHL guy delivered to you while walking around campus (huh?) or to open a letter, or to trim your shoelaces (I'm assuming it isnt a hunting/game management college where you'll be gutting deer everyday). a 1" blade penknife or a small pair of scissors will do all those things. the intent may be defensive, but it will be a weapon nonetheless.
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because its plainly going to be carried as a weapon. you dont need a 4" blade to open the package the DHL guy delivered to you while walking around campus (huh?) or to open a letter, or to trim your shoelaces (I'm assuming it isnt a hunting/game management college where you'll be gutting deer everyday). a 1" blade penknife or a small pair of scissors will do all those things. the intent may be defensive, but it will be a weapon nonetheless.
Hey, I can understand a straight-bladed knife being unnecessary for daily use. Something like that is obviously not an everyday tool. In fact, I made one for Stampf's son when we went to see him graduate from Parris Island. I designed it to specifically be a weapon, from the shape, size, material and sheath. There really isn't any other purpose to this knife, except as a survival tool or weapon.
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Morgan%20Knife/100_1900.jpg)
On the other hand, I have been carrying a folding knife in my pocket since I was a 10 year old cub scout that earned his Tote & Chip card. The next photo is my pocket knife that goes, well... in my pocket. It could certainly be used as a weapon as could just about anything else I mentioned before. It is a $3.99 special from Harbor Freight. Easy to replace if lost or broken. I would feel naked leaving the house without it. It is not very ferocious looking. It is a damn pocket knife. Again, I ask, would a piece of obsidian make everyone feel safer?
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Morgan%20Knife/DSC01442.jpg)
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff107/tymekeepyr/Morgan%20Knife/DSC01443.jpg)
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The point is that we are talking about a college campus. A college campus can have their own set of rules which may be more strict than the local town or state. It isnt uncommon for the college to have strict rules in terms of providing a safer campus. A college can determine anything to be a weapon and remember many colleges have their own police force or security to follow the rules laid down by the college. Like my college, we had actual state troopers on our campus and they enforced the laws of the college. If a school determines a pocket knife is a weapon, then it is a weapon. There is no use arguing it. There is a reason why colleges provide handbooks and there is a section of handbooks clearly printed that has a section describing what is a weapon and the repercussions if someone is found carrying a weapon. What you may consider a weapon and what a college considers a weapon can be easily two different things. You may feel the need to carry a weapon but remember, a college is enforcing rules to make sure EVERYONE feels safe going to class and living on a campus which many consider home because of how much time during the year they spend on it. After everything that has happened in this year alone, how many college students would feel comfortable knowing that someone in their class is carrying a switchblade.
Again everyone is from different cultures and backgrounds. What one is used to doing for most of their lives can easily change when going to college. Colleges have rules for a reason. Whether you like it or not, an individual must follow those rules. If they dont like it, nothing saying they have to receive their education at that particular school.
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There is a lot of good advice here so far. Some question the need to carry a weapon on a college campus. Statistics notwithstanding, no environment is ever going to be 100% safe from the criminal element. I worked as an armed security officer on a military base for four years. We had entry requirements that were a thousand times more strict than a porous college campus. And yet, military bases are not exempt from crime. Bottom line, you may need to defend yourself anywhere. The notion that college campuses are somehow isolated from the rest of the world is demonstrably false.
As has been noted, knives are often given harsher treatment as "weapons" even though there are many seemingly innocuous items that can be just as effective for self defense. I used to carry a AA Maglite in places where other weapons were prohibited. Not only does it provide a huge tactical advantage in darkness, but it can be used as a force multiplier for striking. Nobody gives a hoot if you carry a flashlight, either.
The first part of self defense is threat mitigation. Don't do stupid stuff or hang out with questionable people. Don't go to parties off campus or where the majority of people are strangers. If you drink, know who you're with and how you're going to get home. Stay in well-lit areas when you travel and avoid going out late at night whenever possible. Carry a decoy wallet. All of these measures will mitigate your threat risk and require no weapons and no training.
When these measure fail, it will not be your fault. If you are forced to defend yourself then you have the right to respond with enough force to end the threat without additional risk to yourself. This includes lethal force if you have an honest and reasonable belief that you are in imminent danger of serious injury or death. Familiarize yourself with laws regarding self defense, and carry the most effective weapon the law allows. As others have stated, ask campus police. Do not let them give you the old "why do you feel you need a weapon here" BS. Stick to the law; opinion here is ultimately irrelevant.
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It is really tough to get those freshman bras off. A knife is key.
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Colleges\Universities don't have to follow local, state or federal law if you are a student becasue they are responsible for your safety while in their care. This is ilegal and why I included the link to fire.org. By stare decisis and lack of concerted visible legal challenge accepted by their local legal system. They are also cash cows who make generous donations in their own best interests. You are dealing with essentialy soft totalitarian entities. So don't scare the natives.
Very often the local judicery and police is fine with this and defers to it. You also need to understand how quickly your right to a lawyer and your constitutional garuntees have no power in the US constiutional self exempted utopian sovereign nations called college or university. There is some quasi judicial tap dancing that covers the right of these farces to ensure everyone's saftey by adjudicating all violaters as guilty upon complaint with no recource to local, state, or federal due process unless you have access to lawyers with experience beating them into subission.
When you sign your student acceptance contract you sign away your rights while you live in their tiny totalitarian states. Try wearing a Glock T-shirt with a picture of a Glock on one side and "gun control is using both hands." on the other side on most campuses today. You can get kicked out of the school for being a teorrorist the next day, arrested for hate speech then dismissed, and even arrested and forced to take sensativity training, ongoing counsiling and accept 1 year of legal probation for public intimidation and harrasment. Magicly it will follow you to all of your background checks after graduation. It's just about as bad if the T-shirt says "I Heart Jesus" now on some campuses.
Keep the knife out of sight in your underware, never talk about it, or just don't push the issue and leave it at home. You cannot beleive how crazy campus legal systems and regimes will get to punish you for the smallest ideological infractions these days. Then hide under a table the next moment while a nut job blows you away along with everyone in your class. Welcome to the sovereign nations of utopian bliss and "right minded" thinking.
Why don't you just get an online degree from an accredited providor if you are worried about nutjobs assaulting you on campus? If it's meeting girls. Just remember on many US campuses she needs no proof to accuse you of something and you are guilty from that moment. 2009 TitleIX money was conditioned on a DOJ updated directive that all accusations against male students by female students be weighed against the preponderance of evidence rather than guilty until proven innocent. Don't be a bad or cheap date, or PO your girlfreind in effect. Her word is the only word the campus needs to ruin your life if they want to keep their federal funds. And the womens studies graduates who often run the campus sexual harrasment centers and festoon their legal units love it. The DOJ author of the updated missive is one of those wymans studies and legal school graduates.
You can read an analysis of this at fire.org.
http://thefire.org/article/13509.html
So why do you need a knife on campus by the way? You don't impress me as wanting to cut your own throat.
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Colleges\Universities don't have to follow local, state or federal law if you are a student becasue they are responsible for your safety while in their care. This is ilegal and why I included the link to fire.org. By stare decisis and lack of concerted visible legal challenge accepted by their local legal system. They are also cash cows who make generous donations in their own best interests. You are dealing with essentialy soft totalitarian entities. So don't scare the natives.
Very often the local judicery and police is fine with this and defers to it. You also need to understand how quickly your right to a lawyer and your constitutional garuntees have no power in the US constiutional self exempted utopian sovereign nations called college or university. There is some quasi judicial tap dancing that covers the right of these farces to ensure everyone's saftey by adjudicating all violaters as guilty upon complaint with no recource to local, state, or federal due process unless you have access to lawyers with experience beating them into subission.
When you sign your student acceptance contract you sign away your rights while you live in their tiny totalitarian states. Try wearing a Glock T-shirt with a picture of a Glock on one side and "gun control is using both hands." on the other side on most campuses today. You can get kicked out of the school for being a teorrorist the next day, arrested for hate speech then dismissed, and even arrested and forced to take sensativity training, ongoing counsiling and accept 1 year of legal probation for public intimidation and harrasment. Magicly it will follow you to all of your background checks after graduation. It's just about as bad if the T-shirt says "I Heart Jesus" now on some campuses.
Keep the knife out of sight in your underware, never talk about it, or just don't push the issue and leave it at home. You cannot beleive how crazy campus legal systems and regimes will get to punish you for the smallest ideological infractions these days. Then hide under a table the next moment while a nut job blows you away along with everyone in your class. Welcome to the sovereign nations of utopian bliss and "right minded" thinking.
Why don't you just get an online degree from an accredited providor if you are worried about nutjobs assaulting you on campus? If it's meeting girls. Just remember on many US campuses she needs no proof to accuse you of something and you are guilty from that moment. 2009 TitleIX money was conditioned on a DOJ updated directive that all accusations against male students by female students be weighed against the preponderance of evidence rather than guilty until proven innocent. Don't be a bad or cheap date, or PO your girlfreind in effect. Her word is the only word the campus needs to ruin your life if they want to keep their federal funds. And the womens studies graduates who often run the campus sexual harrasment centers and festoon their legal units love it. The DOJ author of the updated missive is one of those wymans studies and legal school graduates.
You can read an analysis of this at fire.org.
http://thefire.org/article/13509.html
So why do you need a knife on campus by the way? You don't impress me as wanting to cut your own throat.
Well Im going to this college because its paid for.
I would like to carry the knife because Im used to having a weapon nearby in the event it is needed. Both my parents have concealed carry permits and carry daily, my dad more than one. I will be getting my permit shortly after my 18th birthday and will carry from that day forth. Obviously I cant carry a firearm on campus. Now the knife in question is more of a survival knife. Half the blade is serrated (whole blade is less than 4", 8" unfolded including handle) its small, comfortable, and effective and it has a glassbreaker if need be. So more than anything it serves a utilitarian purpose and provides a sense of security.
BTW I have seen a total of 2 campus security personnel. One goes around and checks parking stickers. The other locks up at night.
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my question is.... how the heck will a pocket knife protect your life if its a school shooting? never bring a knife to a gun fight as the saying goes.
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my question is.... how the heck will a pocket knife protect your life if its a school shooting? never bring a knife to a gun fight as the saying goes.
Im more worried about the getting jumped walking to class.
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Save your life with that knife and your school will find a way to screw you faster than you can say victom. Any school you try to get into after that will know your story. It may keep you from doing anything but an online degree and have to explain a weapons charge during a background check. You might even be excluded from a CCW.
You should have never started this post. If you are going to carry weapons expect to run into problems at some point in your life. You should known better if you live in a home with CCW carriers and expect to earn one yourself. None of us know anything about your specific university and it's weapons bi-laws. You can goto your parents CCW instructors and get better locality answers than from this forum.
Why do you want everyone reading this post to know you carry a knife and intend to CCW when you reach your age of majority for your area? CCW teachers will not be very impressed with this line of discussion even if you are posting anonymously. It shows a compulsion to talk about your weapons to complete strangers. And you have talked about your parents CCW without their permission in a public forum.
So how many don'ts have you violated for earning a CCW so far on the written exam?
don't tell anyone you are in the CCW process
don't tell anyone you carry or intend to carry
don't talk about carrying weapons to strangers and what you want to do with them
don't tell strangers about CCW carriers you personaly know
don't ask weapons legal advice from strangers and non-lawyers
You have specific avenues in private in your area as a CCW to gain legal advice without jepordising your status. Your parents should be able to help you with that being CCW carriers to privetly help you with your questions about carrying a knife at your campus. Legal questions in the wrong legal areas can lead to questions about your fitness.
Why do you want everyone here to know you carry weapons and that your parents are licensed to conceal carry??
I personaly commend your parents for their courage but, don't get you in the face of such a responsible armed house hold.
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Im more worried about the getting jumped walking to class.
What school are you going to?
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Im just gonna stop. All I wanted to know was if anyone knew the law in Florida about carrying a pocket knife. :salute Goodbye
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Im just gonna stop. All I wanted to know was if anyone knew the law in Florida about carrying a pocket knife. :salute Goodbye
It has nothing to do with the "law in Florida", it's has everything to do with the bylaws and rules of the school.
Your not going to tell us the name of the school?
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Im just gonna stop. All I wanted to know was if anyone knew the law in Florida about carrying a pocket knife. :salute Goodbye
The law in Florida is pretty clear about knives, and what you can and can't carry.
You can't have a switchblade (spring assisted opening) or something that shoots a projectile.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0790/0790ContentsIndex.html
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?mode=View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1&App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=knife&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.225.html
Regarding a weapon (which includes any knives) on any school grounds:
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?StatuteYear=2012&AppMode=Display_Results&Mode=Search%2520Statutes&Submenu=2&Tab=statutes&Search_String=790.115
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The law in Florida is pretty clear about knives, and what you can and can't carry.
You can't have a switchblade (spring assisted opening) or something that shoots a projectile.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0790/0790ContentsIndex.html
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?mode=View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1&App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=knife&URL=0700-0799/0790/Sections/0790.225.html
Regarding a weapon (which includes any knives) on any school grounds:
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?StatuteYear=2012&AppMode=Display_Results&Mode=Search%2520Statutes&Submenu=2&Tab=statutes&Search_String=790.115
Thank you, this is what I wanted to know.
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Like Bustr mentioned and what I have mentioned, the college/universities in this country have their own rules.
If you are that afraid of getting jumped at a college campus there is something seriously wrong with that thought, sorry if it is offensive. A college/university is supposed to give a sense of security while going for higher learning. Remember that everyone going to college for the most part, is going for the same reasons. To earn a degree for a higher better paying job. If someone attacks someone, they risk getting kicked out of college, that assault goes on their record, and they are unable to get into another school for the most part as that record will follow them. No one will benefit from that. Some schools may give a couple strikes before kicking someone out but depending on the severity of the fight, can count double. Now if it occurs off campus, that is a different story. While the college rules are directly applied to you on campus, they do follow those that live off campus as well. I know first hand because our players on the football team that decided to live off campus still had to register their house with the school because the school is still directly responsible for your well being if you are attending their institution. Could be living 2 miles away from the school but the school will still be contacted if anything were to happen to you. If there is a party at the house and someone is injured, the local police may be the first to respond but campus police/security will still be notified and probably will show up if they have their own cars which also means the administration will also be notified at your institution.
In short though, there is no need to carry any sort of personal defense on a campus. Everyone there for the most part is there for the same reason and wont risk their future on something petty like a fight out in the open for everyone to see. It isnt high school anymore. There is also the gym, get big and you can most likely fend for yourself if anything happens unless you choose to fight the starting linebacker on the football team.
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I'm curious why he won't give the schools name? I think I know why, but I'm curious just the same :noid
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By the way, Ill mention Im at New York Medical College now and its located on more than just a college campus. This medical school only has 2 main academic teaching buildings by the way. The campus besides the college, Westchester Medical Center which is a major trauma hospital, the fire academy, the police academy, a juvenile detention center right behind the school which is 20 yards from the basketball court, the Westchester department of correction prison, country jail, and a halfway house. Know what kind of security they provide for the medical students? All we get is rent a cop security. Half the security are out of shape old fat white guys who I would fear have a heart attack first if they ever had to do anything in terms of protecting us. Seeing a prison on the campus wasnt exactly heart warming when I first arrived. Not everyone going to the hospital is also sane, there are some real psychopaths that enter hospitals and the one here doesnt have a police officer at it 24/7 either. I dont walk the streets around the school cautiously either or worry that Im going get stabbed by someone. If I cant feel safe going to a school where I will spend majority of time, why go there. If someone really wanted to go on a shooting rampage at my school, they would kill at least half the student population before he/she was stopped as most of the classes are taught in auditorium setting and only have 1-2 exit paths. Even with all this, I still dont carry a weapon. I see no need. If something is going to happen, its going to happen. Unless you are carrying a gun, there is nothing going stop a shooter.
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Like Bustr mentioned and what I have mentioned, the college/universities in this country have their own rules.
If you are that afraid of getting jumped at a college campus there is something seriously wrong with that thought, sorry if it is offensive. A college/university is supposed to give a sense of security while going for higher learning. Remember that everyone going to college for the most part, is going for the same reasons. To earn a degree for a higher better paying job. If someone attacks someone, they risk getting kicked out of college, that assault goes on their record, and they are unable to get into another school for the most part as that record will follow them. No one will benefit from that. Some schools may give a couple strikes before kicking someone out but depending on the severity of the fight, can count double. Now if it occurs off campus, that is a different story. While the college rules are directly applied to you on campus, they do follow those that live off campus as well. I know first hand because our players on the football team that decided to live off campus still had to register their house with the school because the school is still directly responsible for your well being if you are attending their institution. Could be living 2 miles away from the school but the school will still be contacted if anything were to happen to you. If there is a party at the house and someone is injured, the local police may be the first to respond but campus police/security will still be notified and probably will show up if they have their own cars which also means the administration will also be notified at your institution.
In short though, there is no need to carry any sort of personal defense on a campus. Everyone there for the most part is there for the same reason and wont risk their future on something petty like a fight out in the open for everyone to see. It isnt high school anymore. There is also the gym, get big and you can most likely fend for yourself if anything happens unless you choose to fight the starting linebacker on the football team.
Except at Temple, I suppose...
http://blogs.phillymag.com/the_philly_post/2011/09/16/temple-university-guns-town/ (http://blogs.phillymag.com/the_philly_post/2011/09/16/temple-university-guns-town/)
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In short though, there is no need to carry any sort of personal defense on a campus.
College campuses are not isolated from the rest of the world. Show me one campus in the US that is surrounded by barbed wire fences with manned access control points. Any argument suggesting that campuses are limited to students and staff is ignoring the fact that they're 100% open to anyone that feels like wandering on. Campus police simply do not have the resources to challenge everyone that may be on the property.
Also, repeat after me: "I am not qualified to assess the self defense needs of other people." Repeat as necessary.
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Every college age male can make a bong out of whatever happens to be nearby.
I don't see the difficulty in applying the same level of creativity in fashioning a weapon.
If that is beyond the original poster's ability, then expect to fail at life.
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Seeing as the OP doesn't seem to want to post the schools name I'm thinking he posted the thread basically to show off his new knife, as well as looking for a bit of validation for him to carry it at school to be the cool kid.
Personally I think he knows it would be against the school rules but was looking for a way around it. Just another kid who thinks "he knows it all" like we all did at his age. Time well show him how wrong he is.... as we all learned.
Rules are rules, there are consequences if caught not following them. The choice is ultimately his. McDonalds hires people who were kicked out of school :D
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Lol......I had just decided to not post a Burger King application for employment in the post above.