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General Forums => Films and Screenshots => Topic started by: RedBull1 on December 30, 2012, 09:25:05 PM
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...Or can they? o.O
I made this video mostly/mainly because I was bored and needed something to do, and this helped me waste about 30 mins - 1 hour of time between rendering and uploading this 3 minute video (Cuz, Ya know...my internet and PC are beast)
Sooo Yea, basically turn fighting an A6M with 3-6K of alt on me in a K4, with some karma for a picking spit16 at the end.
(PS - If the fight's too boring for you skip to like 2:20 into the video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C7gm4HhmZc&feature=youtu.be
If you dislike it, believe me I understand lol - the quality sucks(720p looks ok, but not that good, still can't fix that Q_Q ), Frame Rate isn't superb (New PSU for new computer should be here tomorrow, praying MB didn't fry too lol :D ), stall horn's annoying as hell (buzzzzz), the fight can be boring (ZZZzzzz...), etc. But at least there's sound this time! :rofl
But I couldn't believe my luck when the spit flew right in front of me there :lol
Apparently youtube 'fixed' my video by removing some of the black borders, but now the quality is awful, now I have to wait for it to revert :rolleyes:
If you watch this within the next 10 minutes - you might wanna wait lol
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Nice job red.
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Nice job red.
Hey spek, how ya been, thanks
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:lol Nice flying Red. And what timing, having both line up like that! :aok
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Hey spek, how ya been, thanks
Good man. Welcome
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:lol That was great! I noticed you reversed your roll back to the right a lot later than I would have and had some great opportunities for a snap shot. Going to have to try that out! :aok
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:lol That was great! I noticed you reversed your roll back to the right a lot later than I would have and had some great opportunities for a snap shot. Going to have to try that out! :aok
Stop that, stop that right now, you and your learning - you're good enough, I don't need you breaking my fragile ego beating me in my own K4! :cry
Wait, I die too much to have an ego :confused: Nevermind, continue.
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A perfect example of only flying a trainer wont teach you anything.
Nice one, Red.
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Stop that, stop that right now, you and your learning - you're good enough, I don't need you breaking my fragile ego beating me in my own K4! :cry
Wait, I die too much to have an ego :confused: Nevermind, continue.
You can't stop me! I like learning, and am aiming for the top of the top. I will reach the level where no amount the number of enemies, in any variety of planes, I will win the fight and fly home. :t :airplane:
And when I finally reach that level I will probably retire from AHII, but seeing how I am still years from that kind of skill level I think I'll stick around a while longer. :) :cheers:
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Nice Red - I look forward to killi....errrr dying to your guns in the New Year fella.
Wurz
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Very nice indeed!
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Fantastic :aok :aok
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Awesome dude :salute
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Nice at the end there!
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Do you have the engine sound turned down? If so, why? Couldn't tell if you were hitting WEP, did hear the flaps activate a couple times. Great game. Of course the peace de resistance is the cheat PM. :x
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Do you have the engine sound turned down? If so, why? Couldn't tell if you were hitting WEP, did hear the flaps activate a couple times. Great game. Of course the peace de resistance is the cheat PM. :x
I do, and I did that a long time ago to all planes, I believe it was because I couldn't hear Ventrillo at the time when I was talking to squaddies, especially if flying in formation - flaps, no idea why their sounds might be turned down ???
But again I did these changes when I like downloaded the game a year ago or whatever so I don't recall lol - Hell if a 262 is in the area I can't hear him even if hes 200 behind me because I totally turned jet sounds off - I couldn't hear watermelon over the jet engines I know lol
and Thanks all :banana:
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AWESOME job!
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Great fight but the reality is that the A6M either had half elevator missing or a total noob piloting.
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...Or can they? o.O
Sooo Yea, basically turn fighting an A6M with 3-6K of alt on me in a K4, with some karma for a picking spit16 at the end.
RedBull,
Let me preface this by saying that you are a very talented stick, and from the fights I've had with you during my brief stint in the cartoon skies a few months back, I was very impressed.
But it is a disservice to claim this is turn fighting, or in any way utilizing ACM that is in any way remotely realistic.
I don't fault you for using it, since the flight model allows it, but I still question its tactical real life effectiveness.
I am specifically referring to one maneuver (if I can call it that) that is repeated ad nauseam in the video. I have seen it used by others, and indeed I am guilty of using it to some extent.
I discovered this peculiarity in the flight model when I returned last spring, and cataloged it in almost every plane in my video Kung Fu Fighting: http://youtu.be/06f0GF0VAwA
At the top of the scissors, and indeed whenever the A6M is in a position along the right side of your plane ( 4 - 1 o'clock ) you induce a nose-swinging stall / spin maneuver where the nose of your plane pivots to the right as much as 30 degrees or more. You are departing controlled flight, as the stall horn turns off, and turns back on when you re-enter controlled flight. Because this maneuver can be so quickly executed, airspeed drops dramatically by as much as 50-75 mph, and then bounces back to the previous airspeed almost instantly when controlled flight is resumed.
I have several films executing this maneuver vs a number of opponents, and it seems most adequate in the 109K4, and to a lesser extent in the Ki84 or F6F. Attempting this in some planes will just throw you into a deadly spin, such as the Ta 152. In the 109K, it is easily recoverable.
My questions to HTC remain:
What forces in flight dynamics allows the aircraft, through simple hard left rudder and hard right stick input to,
1) throw the plane radically sideways without losing forward momentum
2) reduce speed by a significant amount and then regain that speed almost instantly when the maneuver is complete
3) why in some aircraft does this cause nearly unrecoverable spins, and in others is entirely forgiving?
I somehow missed Shaw's coverage of this "maneuver" in "Fighter Combat Tactics and Maneuvering".
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dbl
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RedBull,
Let me preface this by saying that you are a very talented stick, and from the fights I've had with you during my brief stint in the cartoon skies a few months back, I was very impressed.
But it is a disservice to claim this is turn fighting, or in any way utilizing ACM that is in any way remotely realistic.
I don't fault you for using it, since the flight model allows it, but I still question its tactical real life effectiveness.
I am specifically referring to one maneuver (if I can call it that) that is repeated ad nauseam in the video. I have seen it used by others, and indeed I am guilty of using it to some extent.
I discovered this peculiarity in the flight model when I returned last spring, and cataloged it in almost every plane in my video Kung Fu Fighting: http://youtu.be/06f0GF0VAwA
At the top of the scissors, and indeed whenever the A6M is in a position along the right side of your plane ( 4 - 1 o'clock ) you induce a nose-swinging stall / spin maneuver where the nose of your plane pivots to the right as much as 30 degrees or more. You are departing controlled flight, as the stall horn turns off, and turns back on when you re-enter controlled flight. Because this maneuver can be so quickly executed, airspeed drops dramatically by as much as 50-75 mph, and then bounces back to the previous airspeed almost instantly when controlled flight is resumed.
I have several films executing this maneuver vs a number of opponents, and it seems most adequate in the 109K4, and to a lesser extent in the Ki84 or F6F. Attempting this in some planes will just throw you into a deadly spin, such as the Ta 152. In the 109K, it is easily recoverable.
My questions to HTC remain:
What forces in flight dynamics allows the aircraft, through simple hard left rudder and hard right stick input to,
1) throw the plane radically sideways without losing forward momentum
2) reduce speed by a significant amount and then regain that speed almost instantly when the maneuver is complete
3) why in some aircraft does this cause nearly unrecoverable spins, and in others is entirely forgiving?
I somehow missed Shaw's coverage of this "maneuver" in "Fighter Combat Tactics and Maneuvering".
Hey you're spot on man, and I dunno just something I picked up in my time flying the k4.
I suppose that wasn't the perfect title but..well...yea, I'll try to pick a better title next time :aok
:salute
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Wait...
K4 = Brewster = Spit16 = Ki84 = F6F?
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_QJ4G0ebARac/TLma5-nku4I/AAAAAAAAAG0/LzCJixTyum8/s1600/gif_Man-has-%2527light-bulb%2527-moment.gif)
Noob/hack/ghey/dweeb planes. :eek:
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:O
Awesome!!!
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And here I tought I had the capability to beat you. :bhead
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Great stick rb nice rudder work!
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Red! That was fantastic man!
-BluBerry (http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb426/Danny_Winters/_free__blueberry_icon_by_reversalstudios-d4v7nzf_zps42da8cf3.gif)
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Well performed RedBull, and that ending.. :O Wow
That spit pilot must have been suicidal or something. :rofl :aok