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Title: 50CAL. takeing out a main tank battle gun.
Post by: GreenEagle43 on January 06, 2013, 01:51:58 PM
how is it the a bunch of 50 cal bullets from a P-51 takes out a M-18 main gun?.. how is that possible. twice this has happen. i can see it taking out the 50CAL it self but dissabled the main gun. am i wrong can this really happen high tec.
Title: Re: 50CAL. takeing out a main tank battle gun.
Post by: Meatwad on January 06, 2013, 01:54:35 PM
Because it has an open top turrent?
Title: Re: 50CAL. takeing out a main tank battle gun.
Post by: Reaper90 on January 06, 2013, 01:55:37 PM
(http://www.hyperscale.com/features/2000/images/images_5/m18rc_11.jpg)

If you'll notice, most of the top of the turret is open, just like a wirble.

a stream of 0.50 cals into the top of that turret would kill everyone in it likely, and probably damage the gun to the extent that it could not continue to operate.

dead crew + damaged gun = no main gun anymore.
Title: Re: 50CAL. takeing out a main tank battle gun.
Post by: tunnelrat on January 06, 2013, 01:56:32 PM
It means the crew in the open top has been ventilated, gun turns red because it is non-functional, not necessarily destroyed.

Just be happy you can retrieve a brand new self-inflating crew from the many boxes of supplies strewn about the battlefield!

Title: Re: 50CAL. takeing out a main tank battle gun.
Post by: Karnak on January 06, 2013, 02:35:26 PM
One more thing, the M-18 is not a Main Battle Tank.  It is a Tank Destroyer that relies on speed and firepower to make up for its very thin armor.  Don't let its shape fool you.
Title: Re: 50CAL. takeing out a main tank battle gun.
Post by: Daddkev on January 06, 2013, 05:01:29 PM
 :huh :huh :huh Thin Skin !  :huh :huh :huh :banana: :banana: :banana: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener:
Title: Re: 50CAL. takeing out a main tank battle gun.
Post by: RedBull1 on January 06, 2013, 05:05:39 PM
(http://www.hyperscale.com/features/2000/images/images_5/m18rc_11.jpg)

If you'll notice, most of the top of the turret is open, just like a wirble.

a stream of 0.50 cals into the top of that turret would kill everyone in it likely, and probably damage the gun to the extent that it could not continue to operate.

dead crew + damaged gun = no main gun anymore.
That looks more like a Patton or pershing, maybe it's just because it's an RC *shrugs
Title: Re: 50CAL. takeing out a main tank battle gun.
Post by: Daddkev on January 06, 2013, 05:10:37 PM
 :huh :huh :huh What part of thin skin arent you getting? Duh!  :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead
Title: Re: 50CAL. takeing out a main tank battle gun.
Post by: GreenEagle43 on January 09, 2013, 11:26:12 AM
OK. thanks for this information. that answers my question.
Title: Re: 50CAL. takeing out a main tank battle gun.
Post by: Paladin3 on January 09, 2013, 12:44:59 PM
Thin skin still stops machinegun fire. Although in this case, the fire coming from above if hitting inside the turret could hit anyone standing, sitting, or what have you in there. Of course, in WWII you did not have the air saturation you do in here.

Some tanks do have a weakness around the gun mantle as well, if that is part of your question - some even have very little armor there.
Title: Re: 50CAL. takeing out a main tank battle gun.
Post by: tunnelrat on January 09, 2013, 01:02:05 PM
The M2HB .50 can punch a hole in any side of the 5mm to 25mm armor on the M18.  IRL of course. (And that's using the understated "reported" armor penetration value of BMG ammo)


I have exploded them, multiple times, in an M3... so it appears the game is good to go regarding this.
Title: Re: 50CAL. takeing out a main tank battle gun.
Post by: Babalonian on January 09, 2013, 06:03:01 PM
how is it the a bunch of 50 cal bullets from a P-51 takes out a M-18 main gun?.. how is that possible. twice this has happen. i can see it taking out the 50CAL it self but dissabled the main gun. am i wrong can this really happen high tec.

May we intorduce to you the open-turret M-18.

(http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww144/simonmphotography/Tankfest%2007/m18hellcat1.jpg)

(http://armorama.com/photos/feature/2737/001.jpg.jpeg)

Title: Re: 50CAL. takeing out a main tank battle gun.
Post by: Reaper90 on January 09, 2013, 08:13:30 PM
That looks more like a Patton or pershing, maybe it's just because it's an RC *shrugs

 :rofl

RedBalls, you need to learn your tanks!
Title: Re: 50CAL. takeing out a main tank battle gun.
Post by: skorpx1 on January 09, 2013, 09:33:26 PM
Thin armor, open top turret, gun breach sitting right in the middle of it all, of course its gonna get damaged. You're lucky if you don't die from a burst in the M-18 from any plane with 4+ .50 cals.




That looks more like a Patton or pershing, maybe it's just because it's an RC *shrugs

 :bhead

Here's a Patton.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e1/M48A1-Patton-tank.jpg/300px-M48A1-Patton-tank.jpg)

Here's a Pershing.
(http://www.wwiivehicles.com/usa/tanks-heavy/m26-heavy-tank-pershing/m26-heavy-tank-pershing-06.png)



Dunno what you're smoking but I wouldn't mind having some of it.
Title: Re: 50CAL. takeing out a main tank battle gun.
Post by: RedBull1 on January 09, 2013, 11:19:38 PM
Am I the only one who thinks this:

(http://www.hyperscale.com/features/2000/images/images_5/m18rc_11.jpg)

Looks a little bit like this?


(http://www.wwiivehicles.com/usa/tanks-heavy/m26-heavy-tank-pershing/m26-heavy-tank-pershing-06.png)


At all? Anyone? Aaah diddly it maybe I'm just becoming as senile as zack  :old:
Title: Re: 50CAL. takeing out a main tank battle gun.
Post by: bangsbox on January 09, 2013, 11:50:31 PM
Am I the only one who thinks this:

(http://www.hyperscale.com/features/2000/images/images_5/m18rc_11.jpg)

Looks a little bit like this?


(http://www.wwiivehicles.com/usa/tanks-heavy/m26-heavy-tank-pershing/m26-heavy-tank-pershing-06.png)


At all? Anyone? Aaah uplift it maybe I'm just becoming as senile as zack  :old:




ill give u a little (as in the zeppelin, looks like the metlife blimp). plus there is a lot of add stuff on that m-18 (gas cans..ect) and Pershing is clean. so i can understand.