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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: ToeTag on January 06, 2013, 11:18:37 PM
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apparently the paper that posted the locations of the gun owners has hired....get this..... armed guards...this is where you laugh....for protection................... ............................. ......whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa he ha ha hahaaaaa...... :rofl
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Boo. What a bunch of idiots.
Why don't they work on a list of crazy people who are about to commit murder. That would actually make sense and make people safer. :aok
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:rofl
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If the Journal News was trying to make a great case for gun owners to NOT register their firearms, they have succeeded. :aok
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LOL :rofl
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Little bit of fall out from this. Those folks who were listed that are actually emplyed byt placves like the Police, Sheriff and prisons are getting threats against the family because of the paper's action. Prison guards especially are being told by inmates that they know where they live. Great job on the part of the news idiots.
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Poor NON-gun owners on the map are now at additional risk.....the criminals now are able to see which residents probably DO NOT have a gun for protection!
Fail. :rolleyes:
Regards,
Sun
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Poor NON-gun owners on the map are now at additional risk.....the criminals now are able to see which residents probably DO NOT have a gun for protection!
Fail. :rolleyes:
Regards,
Sun
actually those names that were posted were only for those who had permits for pistols only. those who own rifles or shotguns dont need a permit and therefore are not listed. I thought you may want to know that information.
so if any criminal wants to break into the other homes they may hear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYieeo4EvB4
or this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkGMD-xAtrc
sounds are cheese but you get the point :banana: :banana:
midway
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Agreed, I'd be way more tee'd off if I lived there and was not "on the map", though this is arguably a tremendous argument against gun registration. Any while those people may in fact still have a rifle or shotgun, this still make it more likely IMO that their home will be a target for criminals, and that's never desirable (armed or not). And while it's true that the Journal was obtained the info legally, that doesn't mean they're off the hook if some sues them after their house is invaded. Just as it is your 1st Amendment write to shout, "Fire!" in a crowded movie theater, you may still be held liable if you do so when no fire is present. IN.
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Actually, it may make it convenient for criminals to know which houses do have pistols, if they're in the mood to steal some.
Just because a home has a weapon in it doesn't mean it's going to be able to deter theft.
This just makes it easier for criminals to "shop" for pistols. All they need to do is case the house for a few days and they'll be able to pattern the people who own the house allowing them to break in and search fro weapons while they know that-
A- it's an empty house.
B- there's a likely "reward" for diligently searching likely places where firearms may be kept.
C- it may be well worth the effort to bring a tool or two to specifically help defeat a gun safe.
D- if someone comes home they can be ready for them, and almost definitely catch them off guard and in the vast majority of cases unarmed. It may even be rewarding for them to hold someone at gunpoint and demand a firearm or ten. After all, they know the weapons are present.
After all, locked doors (including those on safes) are really just there to keep the honest, honest.
Are most homes robbed while people are home? Or while they're away?
The media has once again shown how irresponsible, unbalanced, and unconcerned with facts they really are. I'm shocked that anyone would be shocked.
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After reading across a number of blogs about this, I came across someone who communicates with at least one of that news paper's employees.
The Editor is a very Liberal leaning mommy with children. She though if she had the map published that all of the gun owners, non gun owning, sane, reasonable neighbors would walk next door and demand their neighbors get rid of their guns for the safety of the community and it's children. After all we know thats a process organised liberal leaning citizens tend to be good at. Publicly shaming law abiding fellow citizens into changing their conduct by changing the definition of right into wrong out of thin air to support their positions dejour of the moment.
I guess this is one time good law abiding citizens said no to the PC juggernaught of insane strange intentions used to circumvent law and legislatures via social and cultural precedence. Funny how it's as simple as saying "no" to derail these things.
As noted the news paper had to hire armed guards becasue web sites have been opened listing the names, numbers and home addresses of the paper's staff along with the CEO's in Virginia of the parent company. A rumor has been started that the editor's husband has a gun collection. One of the web sites along with her address and a picture of her home points to the bedroom in which the gun collection's safe is in from a street level photo. Is a phych eval warrented yet for this lady?
In the near future this dingaling mommy may have gotten her own children killed by someone breaking in to her house looking for guns to steal from her politicaly correct gun free home. I'm not sure how you view this with compassion without asking, did this woman think through to the point that her "choice" could be endangering those whom she thought she was protecting with her over zelous action?
Or was she abusing her managing editorial position while taking advantage of a tragedy to express her personal ideological wishes on the country with no regard for the consiquences to law abiding gun owners or her own family? So is this the action of someone in need of some mental health care like was needed by the young man in CT? That map can conceivably lead to untold loss of life and property by this one woman's hand.
Perhaps a bit of quantum entangelment irony. A paragon is no better in the end than the two monsters she fears. I suppose if lives are lost she can fall back on the solace of the moral postion that she ment well opposed to the young man in CT ment bad. Even if the out comes both ended with dead citizens. I would not want to be on the jury if lives are lost due to that map and she is being tried. At this point the only person winning anything is in the ground in CT while his legacy is still harming good citizens acting as crazy as they fear the idea of him.
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After reading across a number of blogs about this, I came across someone who communicates with at least one of that news paper's employees.
The Editor is a very Liberal leaning mommy with children. She though if she had the map published that all of the gun owners, non gun owning, sane, reasonable neighbors would walk next door and demand their neighbors get rid of their guns for the safety of the community and it's children. After all we know thats a process organised liberal leaning citizens tend to be good at. Publicly shaming law abiding fellow citizens into changing their conduct by changing the definition of right into wrong out of thin air to support their positions dejour of the moment.
I guess this is one time good law abiding citizens said no to the PC juggernaught of insane strange intentions used to circumvent law and legislatures via social and cultural precedence. Funny how it's as simple as saying "no" to derail these things.
As noted the news paper had to hire armed guards becasue web sites have been opened listing the names, numbers and home addresses of the paper's staff along with the CEO's in Virginia of the parent company. A rumor has been started that the editor's husband has a gun collection. One of the web sites along with her address and a picture of her home points to the bedroom in which the gun collection's safe is in from a street level photo. Is a phych eval warrented yet for this lady?
In the near future this dingaling mommy may have gotten her own children killed by someone breaking in to her house looking for guns to steal from her politicaly correct gun free home. I'm not sure how you view this with compassion without asking, did this woman think through to the point that her "choice" could be endangering those whom she thought she was protecting with her over zelous action?
Or was she abusing her managing editorial position while taking advantage of a tragedy to express her personal ideological wishes on the country with no regard for the consiquences to law abiding gun owners or her own family? So is this the action of someone in need of some mental health care like was needed by the young man in CT? That map can conceivably lead to untold loss of life and property by this one woman's hand.
Perhaps a bit of quantum entangelment irony. A paragon is no better in the end than the two monsters she fears. I suppose if lives are lost she can fall back on the solace of the moral postion that she ment well opposed to the young man in CT ment bad. Even if the out comes both ended with dead citizens. I would not want to be on the jury if lives are lost due to that map and she is being tried. At this point the only person winning anything is in the ground in CT while his legacy is still harming good citizens acting as crazy as they fear the idea of him.
You rock and did you see the quack on Pierce Morgan on the 7th.... Jeez I've never seen a larger train derail before my eyes. Sadly this did not help the rational side of the argument!
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You rock and did you see the quack on Pierce Morgan on the 7th.... Jeez I've never seen a larger train derail before my eyes. Sadly this did not help the rational side of the argument!
Which is exactly why Morgan got him on.
When you can't argue with logic and facts on your side, what do you do? Take some nut-job whacko conspiracy theorist and paint him as the poster boy for the other side.
Bottom line... Morgan and Jones are both idiots in my opinion.
One is a Brit who is not even welcome in his own country, so he's over here preaching to us about OUR culture, OUR problems and OUR constitution. Who knows so little about the guns he hates so much that he calls detached magazines "clips" and thinks an AR-15 is a "machine gun"
The other is a uber-bilderberg-bohemian grove-rockefeller-illuminatti conspiracy theorist, who sees shadows and nefarious plots behind absolutely EVERYTHING, and talks like he has a permanent 2x4 up his hind end.
I wish Jeremy Clarkson would set them BOTH on fire.
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unreal .
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Clarkson is probably having a good time at the moment. He'd probably like the 2 x 4 idea on both of them, hehe.
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When the 2nd amendment was transcribed, the us army had mussel loaders, and so did the citizens. Fast forward to now. The army has tanks, machine guns, drones, etc. I say the 2nd amendment says we as citizens should be able to buy the same. The second amendment isn't there so we can shoot rabbits.
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When the 2nd amendment was transcribed, the us army had muzzle loaders, and so did the citizens. Fast forward to now. The army has tanks, machine guns, drones, etc. I say the 2nd amendment says we as citizens should be able to buy the same. The second amendment isn't there so we can shoot rabbits.
But, but.. according to President Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Eric Holder, Andrew Cuomo, Michael Bloomberg etc, the 2nd amendment was written to protect the rights of hunters and sportsman. To quote Governor Cuomo from yesterday "Nobody needs more then ten rounds to kill a deer." and he's right. *end sarcasm*
I laughed when I heard Cuomo boast about owning a Remington Shotgun... then say we should ban "assault" rifles :bhead I'll take the bet that more 12ga. shotguns are used in gun crimes then anything in .223 or 7.62x39
EDIT: and then I typed a big eloquent rant, with FBI stats to back it up and everything, and then I deleted it so I won't get banned. Instead I'll just link a video of an eloquent woman and mass shooting victim testifying before Jim Brady and congress in 1994 the last time we went through this. Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-oNMHNrS-8) : EDIT
The truth is that EVERYONE is overreacting here. Your child is many time more likely to be struck by lightning and killed, than to be gunned down at school.
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good video.... couldn't have said it better.
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"Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man gainst his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American...[T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.
---Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.
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Actually, it may make it convenient for criminals to know which houses do have pistols, if they're in the mood to steal some.
Just because a home has a weapon in it doesn't mean it's going to be able to deter theft.
This just makes it easier for criminals to "shop" for pistols. All they need to do is case the house for a few days and they'll be able to pattern the people who own the house allowing them to break in and search fro weapons while they know that-
A- it's an empty house.
B- there's a likely "reward" for diligently searching likely places where firearms may be kept.
C- it may be well worth the effort to bring a tool or two to specifically help defeat a gun safe.
D- if someone comes home they can be ready for them, and almost definitely catch them off guard and in the vast majority of cases unarmed. It may even be rewarding for them to hold someone at gunpoint and demand a firearm or ten. After all, they know the weapons are present.
After all, locked doors (including those on safes) are really just there to keep the honest, honest.
Are most homes robbed while people are home? Or while they're away?
The media has once again shown how irresponsible, unbalanced, and unconcerned with facts they really are. I'm shocked that anyone would be shocked.
If my home is broken into, because the crook figured it was better to breakinto a home that didn't have a gun, because I'm not listed in the newspapers report, can I now sue and hold that paper responsible for identifing my home as not containing a weapon.
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Ms. Hasson just found out that while the 1st Amendment is protected, exercising it does have consequences. Her actions highlight the biggest thing about free speech and life in general... Every action has a consequence. Unfortunately, Ms. Hasson has unwittingly exposed hundreds of thousands of households to potential harm by her action in revealing who has a gun and who does not. She willfully exercised her right to a free press and unwittingly provided criminals with a goto address to find firearms as well as a long list of homes that do not have the ability to stop an armed intruder.
While I am no attorney, I seriously believe that Ms. Hasson's actions have at the least, exposed the paper to some serious legal ramifications should it be proved that the paper's publishing of the gun owner lists allowed someone to act and harm another in these areas. Worse yet for Ms. Hasson, she has also exposed her own family to retribution for her actions. That is not right or just, but people are not always rational as Ms. Hasson's actions have already highlighted.
Yep, exercising free speech and the free press have consequences.
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Talking about amendments, politicians are all in violation of rule #14.