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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: bangsbox on January 09, 2013, 11:42:21 PM
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we need this and pics to prove!!!!jap buffalo skin and PBYs.... on a CV pic (only want pby not on CV lol). As i have said many times "planes that land in water do not have to(unless its one that cant, and should be added even if water modeling isnt there yet. PBY!...PBY!...ruff lol
source web site of pics; a fav of mine. http://thebrigade.thechive.com/ (http://thebrigade.thechive.com/)
(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/999/japbuff.jpg)
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/87/pbys.jpg)
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Is...is that first pic of a brew?
Anything to do with a brew gets -100000000000 from me!! and get it off my screen!! AAAHH Im going to bathe in tomato juice
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There are photos of P-40s and a LaGG-3 in Japanese colors as well as just about every American and British aircraft in German colors out there. Captured aircraft skins aren't allowed though.
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There are photos of P-40s and a LaGG-3 in Japanese colors as well as just about every American and British aircraft in German colors out there. Captured aircraft skins aren't allowed though.
and the jap c-47????(i guess they bought a license).
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and those PBYs will take off how? Like a helicopter you say? :bolt:
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and the jap c-47????(i guess they bought a license).
yes, a Japanese manufacturer bought the rights prior to the war.
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Top picture is a captured ML-KNIL B-339 undergoing flight testing by the Japanese. Those PBYS didn't land or take off from that CV or any other CV for that matter.
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nah they can take off.... they only need 3ft and they go Nintendo nose str8 up till they decide not too. you'd think you guys would know this....gah!!
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and those PBYs will take off how? Like a helicopter you say? :bolt:
Top picture is a captured ML-KNIL B-339 undergoing flight testing by the Japanese. Those PBYS didn't land or take off from that CV or any other CV for that matter.
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Shhh....maybe if he gets this, we can get
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac82/mbailey166066/p38ac.jpg)
(http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac82/mbailey166066/ranger-p-38s-2.jpg)
:D
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:huh :huh :huh :aok :aok :aok PBY would be great.....and a motorcycle with a sidecar would be great!!!!!!! :banana: :banana: :airplane: :airplane: :x :x :banana: :banana: :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead
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Nobody reads (facepalm). Was only requesting pby be added and I found this sweet pic to share with u all. I never would ask for PBYs to be carrier planes or even spawn near by. As for the Brewster: thanks ak ak for enlightening us on the context of the photo.
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Shhh....maybe if he gets this, we can get
A bunch of disassembled P38's?????
Don't we already have those???
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A bunch of disassembled P38's?????
Don't we already have those???
Ours need to be disassembled everytime. Save a lot of work if HTC would just supply them in their native broken state.
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A bunch of disassembled P38's?????
Don't we already have those???
Depends on the squad. :D
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A bunch of disassembled P38's?????
Don't we already have those???
38's in pieces? Yes
Disassembled with tools? No
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A bunch of disassembled P38's?????
Don't we already have those???
Only when CorkyJr flies them.
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:rofl :aok
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and the jap c-47????(i guess they bought a license).
Going back trough the memory banks, I believe they had bought a license to manufacture them from Douglas, believe it was called
the Tabby in Japanese colors. DC-2s and 3s were very popular worldwide pre-war.
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and those PBYs will take off how? Like a helicopter you say? :bolt:
The same way they got on, by crane :D
Someone using an escort carrier to transfer planes to a base too far out to fly them in. Which, when you think of it, is pretty
mind boggling for a PBY :lol
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Nobody reads (facepalm). Was only requesting pby be added and I found this sweet pic to share with u all. I never would ask for PBYs to be carrier planes or even spawn near by. As for the Brewster: thanks ak ak for enlightening us on the context of the photo.
Seaplane tenders don't need flightdecks :D
(http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/41/09410521.jpg)
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Seaplane tenders don't need flightdecks :D
(http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/41/09410521.jpg)
True but I don't believe our water is coded to allow for seaplanes...because of this extra work, I wouldn't mind getting planes like the pby and just have them be landbase
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True but I don't believe our water is coded to allow for seaplanes...because of this extra work, I wouldn't mind getting planes like the pby and just have them be landbase
I would like to supply CV's with seaplanes. I would like to drop troops with the seaplane. I would like to rescue pilots at the primary, secondary or tertiary LZ's with seaplanes...these should be bonus points. :aok :rofl :rofl :rofl
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I would like to supply CV's with seaplanes. I would like to drop troops with the seaplane. I would like to rescue pilots at the primary, secondary or tertiary LZ's with seaplanes...these should be bonus points. :aok :rofl :rofl :rofl
All good things.
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and those PBYs will take off how? Like a helicopter you say? :bolt:
:rofl
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and those PBYs will take off how? Like a helicopter you say? :bolt:
They will spawn like PT boats and take off from there... Duh
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True but I don't believe our water is coded to allow for seaplanes...because of this extra work, I wouldn't mind getting planes like the pby and just have them be landbase
But it is coded for boats. :noid
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But it is coded for boats. :noid
but boats dont fly :noid
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but boats dont fly :noid
They do if they have wings my friend, lol. Hey...we have a storch for christs sake...I shot MYSELF down in a storch once...a PBY would be killer if it had a few roles....resupp, water rescue, recon
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They do if they have wings my friend, lol. Hey...we have a storch for christs sake...I shot MYSELF down in a storch once...a PBY would be killer if it had a few roles....resupp, water rescue, recon
I have no idea why so many people 1) think the 180mph PBY would be awesome and 2) equate it to an aquatic Storch.
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but boats dont fly :noid
The PBY Catalina Flying Boat did.
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arent they float planes...
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arent they float planes...
A float plane is an ordinary airplane equipped with floats instead of wheels. A flying boat is built around a single hull that acts as the plane's fuselage and is also able to float and maneuver on the water.
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I have no idea why so many people 1) think the 180mph PBY would be awesome and 2) equate it to an aquatic Storch.
I have no idea why so many people believe, "I, therefore you" is a good way to make friends and influence people. PBYs could be given the same distance view advantage of CVs, a/c, and GVs that Storchs have of GVs. Recon, pilot rescue and resupply.
Pilot goes down with 6 kills, PBY picks him up....pilot gives half his kills to the PBY driver or something like that. I'd do it for someone if they called it out, especially a squadmate that just went 1 v 8 and got 4 of them.
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Pilot goes down with 6 kills, PBY picks him up....pilot gives half his kills to the PBY driver or something like that. I'd do it for someone if they called it out, especially a squadmate that just went 1 v 8 and got 4 of them.
This would be actively bad for the game.
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This would be actively bad for the game.
Of course it would be. I should have listened to you. It's so stupid of me to actually think differently than you.
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Of course it would be. I should have listened to you. It's so stupid of me to actually think differently than you.
Ok, seeing as you haven't thought beyond the "this would be neat" stage, I'll explain.
When you think of something you'd like to have in the game, try to think of both good and bad consequences that it might have on the game.
In this case you might say that the good consequence would be that it would bring a new gameplay element.
The rest of the idea gets complicated and messy in what it would do.
1) It would encourage a player to sit on a hillside, or on the water, for about 30 minutes waiting for another player to pick them up. In both cases those players have functionally been removed from the game as far as providing adversaries go. This is bad.
2) The transferring kills bit doesn't make any sense, so I'll interpret that to functionally meaning a transfer of half the perk points earned by the guy who bailed out. This could be gamed to transfer perk points from one player to another. This can be good or bad depending on your personal opinion, though I suspect it is bad from HTC's perspective or else they'd have implemented a perk exchange system long ago.
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Here's the ridiculous part. Ok....now hold on because this might be tough:
1. People only have to wait if someone says they're actually coming to pick them up. And here's the best part. They don't have to wait if they don't want to! Novel isn't it? It's a game and its up to people how they play it....it's not up to you to decide what may or may not be fun or challenging or good for the game. It's up to the other 2000 subscribers too. If you don't like it, don't do it. Much like storch driving...you won't find many storch pilots in the Muppets, lol. But they haven't mailed HiTech to tell him it's bad for the game. People sit in tanks ALL freakin day waiting on someone to spawn. Your objection by means of removing players from the game is ridiculous
2. Recon? You didn't answer. Resupply CVs? No repo we so ill take the silence as its ok
3. The point system wouldn't be worth manipulating because of the time required to pick someone up. Besides, if its that much of an issue, if you get rescued, you get no perks....there are a thousand possible solutions to the perk issue. There aren't 1000 ways to take big risks in-game for fun....like landing a sector from a CV battle to rescue someone while you're close to a CV-port furball.
The game is for fun....nothing else. If you don't think it's fun, don't do it.
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Here's the ridiculous part. Ok....now hold on because this might be tough:
1. People only have to wait if someone says they're actually coming to pick them up. And here's the best part. They don't have to wait if they don't want to! Novel isn't it? It's a game and its up to people how they play it....it's not up to you to decide what may or may not be fun or challenging or good for the game. It's up to the other 2000 subscribers too. If you don't like it, don't do it. Much like storch driving...you won't find many storch pilots in the Muppets, lol. But they haven't mailed HiTech to tell him it's bad for the game. People sit in tanks ALL freakin day waiting on someone to spawn. Your objection by means of removing players from the game is ridiculous
It is bad for the game to reward people for not participating in the game. Sitting on a hillside is not participating. If it were to be implemented with no reward attached, just something to do for roleplay, fine, but nobody who asks for it does so without coupling it with a carrot to reward people for sitting and doing nothing for 30-60 minutes.
2. Recon? You didn't answer.
Why would you use a 180mph plane to do recon work? Why not take a P-51D? Or, if you want to attach it to an actual recon aircraft, an Ar234 or Mosquito Mk XVI? All of those aircraft move far faster and will cover a lot more ground.
Resupply CVs?
Because it is laughably absurd. You're not going to resupply a 40,000 ton ship that has had holes punched in its inches thick armor with a flying boat that can carry 4,000lbs.
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I have no idea why so many people believe, "I, therefore you" is a good way to make friends and influence people. PBYs could be given the same distance view advantage of CVs, a/c, and GVs that Storchs have of GVs. Recon, pilot rescue and resupply.
You'd also have to give that feature to planes like the B-17 and B-24 as those were also used regularly as patrol/scout planes like the PBY was.
Pilot goes down with 6 kills, PBY picks him up....pilot gives half his kills to the PBY driver or something like that. I'd do it for someone if they called it out, especially a squadmate that just went 1 v 8 and got 4 of them.
What if the pilot was shot down over land? The PBY-5A (the amphibious version capable of taking off and landing on land) weren't short field capable when landing or taking off from surface runways. They'd only be useful for recovering pilots that bailed out over water. The Storch would be better capable of doing pilot rescues on land.
Having said that, I don't believe having SAR capabilities brings anything new or useful to the game and it's pretty much a wish for those that play for score that don't want to take a hit for bailing out.
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You'd also have to give that feature to planes like the B-17 and B-24 as those were also used regularly as patrol/scout planes like the PBY was.
What if the pilot was shot down over land? The PBY-5A (the amphibious version capable of taking off and landing on land) weren't short field capable when landing or taking off from surface runways. They'd only be useful for recovering pilots that bailed out over water. The Storch would be better capable of doing pilot rescues on land.
Having said that, I don't believe having SAR capabilities brings anything new or useful to the game and it's pretty much a wish for those that play for score that don't want to take a hit for bailing out.
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I would just do it for the Medal of Honor achievement award that Skuzzy and I are working on. I can only say I think it would be a blast doing rescues every now and then and you aren't taking anyone out of the game. They're still on the game and they are still presenting a target. Where do you get this stuff karnak?
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A guy sitting on a hillside is not a target. A guy slowly flying his Fi156 or PBY-5 to some empty sector, empty other than the guy sitting on the hillside, is not a target.
Neither guy has to be a target, they can also be aggressors in fighters, or flying bombers on strike ops or any of the other things they can do in the game now.
You put a reward in for sitting on a hillside doing nothing but waiting for rescue and you will see players doing so and begging for rescuers to come save their score or perks or whatever.
You put no reward on doing so and nobody will do it. What does that tell you? There is no compelling gameplay to be had sitting on a polygonal hillside for 30-60 minutes begging for rescue.
Heck, you can even roleplay that right now if you like. Bail out, have a friend come land next to you in an Fi156, end your sortie, use the join function to "get into the Fi156" and he flies back.
Nobody does that of course. It wouldn't be any fun.
Hence every request for a "rescue" function includes the request for outlandish rewards for sitting on a hillside doing nothing.
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A guy sitting on a hillside is not a target. A guy slowly flying his Fi156 or PBY-5 to some empty sector, empty other than the guy sitting on the hillside, is not a target.
Neither guy has to be a target, they can also be aggressors in fighters, or flying bombers on strike ops or any of the other things they can do in the game now.
You put a reward in for sitting on a hillside doing nothing but waiting for rescue and you will see players doing so and begging for rescuers to come save their score or perks or whatever.
You put no reward on doing so and nobody will do it. What does that tell you? There is no compelling gameplay to be had sitting on a polygonal hillside for 30-60 minutes begging for rescue.
Heck, you can even roleplay that right now if you like. Bail out, have a friend come land next to you in an Fi156, end your sortie, use the join function to "get into the Fi156" and he flies back.
Nobody does that of course. It wouldn't be any fun.
Hence every request for a "rescue" function includes the request for outlandish rewards for sitting on a hillside doing nothing.
Unfortunately that is a value judgement that you're making for others. I'm pretty damn sure after playing this game for 6 years that the only people that would use the rescue function would be the same people that sit on the side of a mountain waiting of someone to drive supps to them. It's the same damn thing.
Hey HTC, enable Storch rescues for a test. Just see how it goes....my bet is its used for land based rescues. Then Karnak can grab his crystal ball, hug it, and buy a new one, lol. I love all you turds that think you can speak for others...and have such tremendous insight into the emotional skill sets of others. You must be very wealthy if you're accurate....I imagine people will pay top dollar to have someone tell them what they would like to do for fun. :aok
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I have no problem with the rescue function being added if there is no reward beyond changing a "Captured" to a "Bailed". I have no problem with that because it won't have a negative effect on the game. As I pointed out, you can even simulate that now as there isn't a score or perk difference between "Captured" and "Bailed". It won't have a negative effect because nobody will do it.
The problem arises when you add one of the oft suggested carrots to encourage people to sit on a hillside and beg for rescue. Once that is done it becomes a negative as it takes people out of the combat, which what the game is about.
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We don't need no stinking ways to rescue downed pilots with any type of plane or vehicle.
For all the same reasons that call of duty has no levels where you must repair trucks or up-armor humvees.
It's like asking hitech to update the barracks so we can get some shut eye and write our girls back home.
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I think having a PBY would be great.... and I don't see any reason that we couldn't have one. We have ships, boats, lvts & barges.
The PBY finds the Bismark and some very good footage after with some cool catchy tunes :aok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNqHENNmChU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNqHENNmChU)
An excellent documentary with many clips of the "Blackcats"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeeoAurY_aM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeeoAurY_aM)
These threads have lots of info and some cool pics...Before some of you start with the "It didn't do that" garbage read up.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,258391.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,287002.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,280355.0.html
Flying Boats,
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We don't need a PBY because icepac would find a way to taxi the thing for ten hours behind enemy lines and drop the troop that won the war.
Now if they can drop mines I'm all for it.
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"On the night of 2 March 1943, Catalinas staging through Milne Bay shadowed a large Japanese convoy during the Battle of the Bismarck Sea. The next day, the convoy was almost completely destroyed in one of the decisive actions of the South West Pacific campaign.
April 1943 saw a mixed formation of Nos 11 and 20 Squadron Catalinas carry out the RAAF's first mine laying operation when magnetic mines were successfully laid near Kaiving. This mission marked the commencement of a highly successful mining campaign that was responsible for the sinking of many ships, the disruption of maritime trade and the closure of ports. In one operation No 11 Squadron participated in a mine laying mission to Manila Bay - the Catalinas flew over 14,500 kilometres - making this operation the RAAF's longest of the war. "
Chapter 22 Minelaying by Catalinas :D
http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/records/awmohww2/air/vol2/awmohww2-air-vol2-ch22.pdf (http://www.awm.gov.au/collection/records/awmohww2/air/vol2/awmohww2-air-vol2-ch22.pdf)
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I'm all about this PBY-5A!
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I think having a PBY would be great.... and I don't see any reason that we couldn't have one. We have ships, boats, lvts & barges.
There is no technical reason the PBY-5, or any other flying boat, can't be added.