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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Kenne on January 25, 2013, 11:40:27 AM
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hitting the archives i noted the latest conversation on this subject was over a decade ago.
i realize that 'dot dar' is triggered by the alt of AC and the presence of a RADAR tower.
but what is the 'trigger' for darbar?
observer corp?
FLPs?
FOPs?
can it be adjusted?
is it susceptible by changes in terrain?
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Triggered by altitude (250ft in the MA)
Can be adjusted in arena settings ('Arena Settings' - 'Ranges' - 'SectorCounterAlt')
Is susceptible to changes in terrain.
And it's sometimes quite slow on updating...
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DarBar, or "Sector Counters" as they're called in the arena settings, are triggered by altitude above ground just like the dots. There is a separate set of variables for the two kinds of radar. You can see the current settings for any arena by going into the arena settings clipboard and viewing the Ranges tab.
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The trigger is altitude.
And listening posts. :noid
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If I remember the Dar bar is in reference to the aircraft that are over 250ft above ground level(can't remember which one) once you go above that a Dar bar will show up on the map, the size of the Dar bar depends on the amount of planes in that sector over the 250ft altitude
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If I remember the Dar bar is in reference to the aircraft that are over 65 or 100 ft above ground level
65ft is dot dar.
Darbar is 250ft.
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65ft is dot dar.
Darbar is 250ft.
Man your quick lol I was editing for correctness
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sorry :uhoh
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Triggered by altitude (250ft in the MA)
Can be adjusted in arena settings ('Arena Settings' - 'Ranges' - 'SectorCounterAlt')
Is susceptible to changes in terrain.
And it's sometimes quite slow on updating...
It does seem like the updating thing is fixed now.
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Triggered by altitude (250ft in the MA)
Can be adjusted in arena settings ('Arena Settings' - 'Ranges' - 'SectorCounterAlt')
Is susceptible to changes in terrain.
And it's sometimes quite slow on updating...
I haven't noted any false/ghost/delayed-updating dar bars for the last couple months... just saying, on my end.
Edit: doh, beaten by a shiv!
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The update delay for the radar information is an arena setting (viewable from the arena settings like everything else). I'm guessing it is also a product of your connection and how fast your client can process the data coming from the host - the busier the arena, the more data is sent and the more data your computer needs to recieve and process before your screen is updated.
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The update delay for the radar information is an arena setting (viewable from the arena settings like everything else). I'm guessing it is also a product of your connection and how fast your client can process the data coming from the host - the busier the arena, the more data is sent and the more data your computer needs to recieve and process before your screen is updated.
I don't think that's quite exactly right. The behavior I've seen and a vague recollection of something Hitech might've said seems to indicate the program updates the location for x number of aircraft at a time. So for example using random numbers to illustrate, if it updates 10 aircraft every 10 seconds, and you're in an arena with 10 aircraft in it, every 10 seconds you will see the update for a specific aircraft.
If you've got the same scenario and there are 100 aircraft in the arena, it will be 100 seconds in between updates for each aircraft, because it will have to cycle through the other 9 groups of 10 before it gets back to him.
It should have virtually nothing to do with your connection speed and everything to do with how many aircraft are in the arena.
Wiley.
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65ft is dot dar.
Darbar is 250ft.
is this ASL or AGL?
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is this ASL or AGL?
AGL.
Wiley.
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AGL.
Wiley.
so if i fly under 100'
no matter where i go, i shoodnt appear on dar or the bar..yes?
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so if i fly under 100'
no matter where i go, i shoodnt appear on dar or the bar..yes?
No. At 100 feet AGL, you will show on dot dar. It requires maximum 65 ft AGL to not show up on dot dar.
At 100 feet you will not show up on bardar. As an aside, you never see your own bardar displayed on your map.
Wiley.
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thx
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JUst last night I had a squaddie talking about dar in an area. I did not see it.
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i just think that dot dar and sector dar should be at the same historical levels
or,
was RL RADAR from SL to 30k?
if so, ill shut up :rock
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Dar/bardar occasionally has some oddities.
I haven't seen it for a while, but I can remember nights within the last year or so where the arena had a buttload of people in it. Squaddies that were a sector over were seeing dots on dar that I wasn't, and squaddies that had been in the air for a long time didn't show up on dar at all until I got within visibility range of them.
There seem to be some pretty arcane factors that influence how often your system updates dar and what it updates.
Wiley.
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i just think that dot dar and sector dar should be at the same historical levels
the entire thing is for gameplay alone.. to promote combat.
otherwise everyone would just hide from each other or not be able to find each other to have combat.. which would be unfortunate in a multiplayer game.