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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: texace on April 08, 2001, 05:34:00 PM
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Why is everyone going on about how chute-shooting is dweebish and immoral? Come on, tell me...it's killin me. Are you mad because you didn't get to ride down from 6,000 feet in your pretty white silk sheet? Are you pissed cause you wanted to shoot him but couldn't? Are you whining because you want an excuse besides him shooting you down?
Come on guys. it ain't yer relatives or your cat getting shot in real life. If someone shoots your chute, don't come here and whine about it, get another plane and start fightin again...
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Everything dead in 30 minutes or less or the next one's free.
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[This message has been edited by texace (edited 04-08-2001).]
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It is a simple question of everyone's morals, and no argument can change this. I, IMHO, find it very childish because I think the people do this to show their pretendous and to exagerate once again a victory (though some do this against other's victim, that I really can't understand), and that's why I can't stand it, but others won't think that way. But it is pointless to discuss it again and again.
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Personally, I couldn't care less if you shoot my chute. Fire away, I dont care.
Luckily, I have more of a life that to consider this important.
Dago
[This message has been edited by Dago (edited 04-08-2001).]
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I never shoot chutes, except when they can see what I am doing at their fields, spot incoming goons and all that. I just don't consider it worth the bother. When my chutes get shot, I sometimes voice an opinion, but that's mostly when I'm miffed at being killed :-)
Regards
Darling
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Honestly I haven't had my chute shot but once or maybe twice since beta. Heck, I don't bail that often and when I do I ALWAYS pop the chute seconds before the deck. You will rarely be shot if you master the fine art of bailing (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Lord knows I have a lot of practice! When I here ANYONE complain about getting shot in there chute the first thing that comes to mind is "It was there fault for being in that spot in the first place!" If you die in your chute generaly you probably not only made one mistake but now you made two! Live with it ...don't whine... get up in you AC and "Do unto others as they have done unto you!"
Salute
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all these chute shooting threads are getting old
big deal
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Originally posted by Hokum79:
It is a simple question of everyone's morals, and no argument can change this.
Great... now it's a morality issue.... shoot a chute and you might just go to hell for it... LOL (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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cheers,
sand
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The SBM's are hiring! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum11/HTML/000263.html)
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Originally posted by texace:
Come on guys. it ain't yer relatives or your cat getting shot in real life.
Finally someone's hit the nail on the head. We are fighting in a virtual world. No-one is orphaned when a virtual chute is shot. WHO CARES if the other guy wastes ammo shooting your chute?
If you are that worried about it then do what I do: Ride your plane to the ground.
You will:
A) be back in the tower ready to fly again faster; and
B) not get shot in your chute
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Mako:
Its not about morality, thats just a toejamty excuse
its all about scores
bails dont count as deaths.
they just want good scores.
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Boy adding a score aspect to this game sure has made it a much more friendly place hasn't it. Looks like the quake set is really getting started now!!
Mav
I still say scores and perk points are a solution in search of a problem.
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Its about alot more than morals, scores and UBB's. To me it shows alot about the person. Their morals, their intent, how they look at other humans. Some of you say "its just a game, get over it". Some don't say alot, they just laugh, goad you then post a screen shot of you at your finest. In the flight sim I came from, it wasn't cool, it wasn't funny. It was a slap in the face. To me it still is. I trully wonder why there even modeled at all. All they're used for is to stir up crap and give hugahunks another tool to make people mad, goad them into saying something that they may(or may not) regret later. If someone in real life spiked me sliding into second base, I'd wip his ass. If someone in real life cuts in line ahead of me, I tell them to move to the rear. If they refuse, I'd prolly whip his ass. If im waiting infront of a parking place and some jerk slips in ahead of me, refuse to pull out, guess what. To me, people like that think there better than I am. They think they can get away with stuff like that with no concequences. "Hey, it aint Illegal!" No, its not illegal, its immoral. Like Mike Tyson bitting Holeyfeilds ear off. So, for all you chute shooters out there, in advance, I'd like to say "FOYSSOBAMF".
And don't call me Francis!
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Liztard the moral policeman who says " To me it shows alot about the person. Their morals, their intent, how they look at other humans" thats going to whip everyones bellybutton for taking a parking space.
Thank God your full off toejam or you would probably get shot or thrown in jail.
Thats borderline criminal thinking. What an ass.
Where do you find these fools Hblair?
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[This message has been edited by Creamo (edited 04-08-2001).]
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To me it shows alot about the person. Their morals, their intent, how they look at other humans.
LOL! I guess that's what happens when you forget there is a world outside of your monitor.
AKDejaVu
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Liz, you're a funny guy (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
SOB
BTW...My apologies! Psycho, it's Psycho, I know - I don't want to make the list! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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I'm sorry, but a game is a game. Your actions wether behind a monitor or not affect other people. What I believe I was trying to convey was that some people think they can get away with insulting obnoxious behaviour JUST because they're behind a monitor. In reality, games or parking lots that just wouldn't cut it. Why does it here?
And as for Creamo, I knew you'd take the bait.
"Thank God your full off toejam or you would probably get shot or thrown in jail.
Thats borderline criminal thinking. What an ass.
Where do you find these fools Hblair?"
Your A moronic neanderthal turd who loves nothing more than to stir the pot. I won't be suprised if your not the next one to hit the road. BTW, why bring hblair into this? He's not the CO of a squad calling them selves "The FAT DRUNK BASTARDS" is he? You low lifes really believe in truth in advertising don't you.
I told ya NEVER call me Francis!
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Now that you mention it, I have been eating a bit much lately.
Hrm, wish I had a father.
Oh well, I'll just have another beer and worry about it later.
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Actually Liz, it's just "Fat Drunk Bastards"...no "the".
Truth in advertising? Well, I'll admit it, I am a fatty (not to be confused with Fatty, who is the CO of the FDBs), and I do occasionally get drunk, tho' rarely when I fly AH, but my parents were married when I was born...heck, even when I was concieved. Dammit, maybe I didn't read the squad charter closely enough. I hope I don't get the boot!
Any room over there in the Assassins for me if I do? Will you be my sponsor Liz? If ya do, I'll teach you the trick to killing these new hardened chutes without expending so much ammo! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
SOB
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i would never waste ammo or alt to shoot a chute
First Lord of the Admiralty
Baron Pepe De Pewe
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Geez...now I feel really bad. You mean all this time when I make a chute go "pop" I have been participating in immoral behavior? I had no idea. I feel so terrible now....I dont think I can handle the guilt. Is there anything I can do to redeem myself in the eyes of my fellow AH pilots?
Yeah right...piss off ya whiners!! I shoot them because its fun and a challenge. You ever see how small those chutes really are compared to another plane? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Sling322
Not a Monitor!
Fat Drunk "Chute Shooting" Bastards
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I don't chute shoots because, all u are doing is wasting ammo it does u no good rank/point wise and it hurts the poor guy in the chute rank/point wise and their is nothing he can do about it, kick him while he is down kind of mentality. Never done it never will.
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[This message has been edited by brady (edited 04-09-2001).]
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dammit....double post!!!
but you can still piss off ya whiners!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
[This message has been edited by sling322 (edited 04-09-2001).]
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> Their morals, their intent, how they look at other humans.
so you also got problems with pile-its bombing cities in AH ???
Goner - doesn't even know how to bail ... lawn-decoration specialist.
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AH is a game... sure it is... but it would be a bad game if you'd constantly be aware of it.
I've often caught myself ducking my head when a plane zooms overhead in a close merge.
Same goes for bailing. You're still immersed in your virtual role as a pilot. Your plane is too damaged to garantee your survival so you take the last option - draw the white flag and bail, then along comes a guy and kills you. In that moment your either pissed off at the guy, or forced to think "right, this is only a game haha".
Well, I don't WANT to be reminded that this is a game! I want to exit RL where they call me Robert Sander and enter a virtual life as Effdub. The people you meet there are also virtual, sure, but still you can express your respect (or disrespect) for other virtual biengs through your actions.
I feel that killing someone who's trying to ditch, after you've fought him 1v1 in an even fight, is disrespectful, sames goes for chute killing.
Well, you may not think so, or care less, but the problem is that the other guy may actually care about it. But he can't do anything about it because he's defenceless.
So you are forcing your "hey it's only a game, you don't like chute-killing but I do" dweeberie on someone who can't fight back - thank you so very much.
Yeah sure, AH is just a game....
Why do we chute-kill? Because we can
Why do we fly off the map? Because we can
Why do we vulch? Because we can
Why do we gang-bang? Because I just found 5 others who also can (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
You Chute-killers are so cool, man, you've figured out AH is only a game - wow! So you don't mind anything that's possible in AH right? sure you don't! heck it's only a game!
So if any of you guys EVER whine about ANY game-the-game aspect I'll first laugh at you whiners and then kill YOUR chute... fair enough? Sure it is folks... remember, this is ONLY a game
Effdub
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It seems there are two camps.. those that need a game to define their sense of honor and those that don't.
A game defining moral behavior. That's classic. Its like saying Bill Lambier must be a complete amazinhunk in real life because he was on the court. Or O.J. Simpson is a real class act because he always was on the field.
I've always felt that how you live your life defines you, no how you play a game. It still seems that others have trouble differentiating between the two.
Some people like not to be reminded its a game, though they will still type messages after they've been killed. They claim they are defenseless in a chute, though I question what the hell it is that they have to lose by being shot. Some people question killing a defenseless target, but will pop a respawner the second he appears OTR.
Me... I fight you until one of us dies. If I lose, I don't get on the comms and start hurling insults at the pilot that just fought me. If I win, I don't get on the coms and start hurling insults at the person that just fought me. That, is what I feel, defines your character in the game.
BTW.. for those that don't like to be reminded that its just a game: Have you ever been on someone's 6 and firing away knowing full well there is a bandit behind you doing the same... but you stick with the bogey hoping you get killed before the guy behind you gets you? Its just a game. If it were anything near real, you'd be flying entirely different. You'd be changing your pants after every engagement. You'd be looking at things entirely different. THERE IS NO DEATH/KILLING IN THIS GAME... only fresh planes.
AKDejaVu
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Erich Rudendorff shot down over 200 planes. But was shot down 16 times himself. I bet the first guy that shot him down would have finished the job if he could consider it in hindsight.
I dont really see a morality issue with it.
Does everyone stop shooting so a bailing crew from a tank can walk off the field? What the hell is the difference.
I got caught in the trap of complaining about it once(maybe twice).
What are the alternatives. Make pilots invulnerable? Have the pilot disapear with the plane?
In the war pilots really had to deal with the possibility that the other guys would get him in the chute...Why remove that? So there are no hard feelings?
The FDBs really are the dredges of the game. And dishonest!Most of the ones I met where not even fat, although in all fairness most were drunk.
Creamo...Hblair finds us by going CTRL-S.
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Yeah sure, AH is just a game....
Why do we chute-kill? Because we can
Why do we fly off the map? Because we can
Why do we vulch? Because we can
Why do we gang-bang? Because I just found 5 others who also can
Is this an aptitude test, which of these does not belong?
3 of the 4 listed were possible and did happen in World War II. 1 did not. If you want an accurate WWII sim it would include those 3.
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Originally posted by Effdub:
AH is a game... sure it is...
You Chute-killers are so cool, man, you've figured out AH is only a game - wow! So you don't mind anything that's possible in AH right? sure you don't! heck it's only a game!
So if any of you guys EVER whine about ANY game-the-game aspect I'll first laugh at you whiners and then kill YOUR chute... fair enough? Sure it is folks... remember, this is ONLY a game
Effdub
Wow...it seems that some of the folks are starting to catch on here.
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ROTF!! I love these threads!!! DAMN MY SIDES HURT!! LIZ..quit..please...your killin me (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Seriously though, those that do it are part of the "who gives a damn,so what, no big deal, I'll do what I like cuz I can and if you don't like it you can kiss my ass" crowd. Most of which can be found at your local X-game tryouts or the local punk dive.
Why do people Kamakze into a CV? Why do they Kamakaze into a bomber or fighter hanger at a field? Why do people HO? Why do people alt-f4?(whatever the hell that is, it just moves me back to the desktop with AH still running) Why do people camp at spawn points? Why would someone up in a bomber, wait for a plane to get close and pickle all their eggs?
Why do people shoot chutes? Because they can, plain and simple. There are no penalties for the aforementioned actions. Its not going to cost them any points. Its the way they have chosen to play. The rest of us have taken the high road and chosen not to. One day when things slow down at HTC and they have time maybe they will add a few preventive measures because some of the things I mentioned affect the gameplay of of others. As far as the rest go, have at it fellas, shoot all the chutes you want, but don't expect a 6 call or assistance from the rest of us.
One more thing, somone mentioned a handheld Hispano...would be funny wouldn't it? I mean picture it...pilot bails because he can't fly his a/c back to the airfield. Seeing this paint swoops in for the kill on this juicy chute...suddenly..PING PING PING CRASH he has no wings! When he realizes where the rounds came from he fills the buffer on CH 1
with you know what (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) Go ahead..tell me I'm wrong..now whos having fun *grin*
Twisty out
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Shit - I came too late... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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[This message has been edited by Kirin (edited 04-09-2001).]
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I always say u can tell a lot about somebody by how they play a game....
Brady
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Originally posted by Kirin:
Shit - I came too late... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
(http://members.tripod.de/Sir_Kirin/killchute.jpg)
I KNEW them Luftwieners were wieners... Look at that screenshot.. just look at it!!! He's got his head pushed all the way up so he can "see over" his D9's nose.
I don't suppose you think the D9's gunnery is a little odd too Kirin? Serious question so please answer it, the above was just drivel. :-)
-SW
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Originally posted by Twist:
Seriously though, those that do it are part of the "who gives a damn,so what, no big deal, I'll do what I like cuz I can and if you don't like it you can kiss my ass" crowd. Most of which can be found at your local X-game tryouts or the local punk dive.
Nice broad generalization. Great follow up, detailing what the majority of this group of meanies does with their time.
Originally posted by Twist:
As far as the rest go, have at it fellas, shoot all the chutes you want, but don't expect a 6 call or assistance from the rest of us.
Speak for yourself. I have my six called on a regular basis by many fine Bish pilots, not all of whome are dastardly enough to fire rounds off at a poor helpless soul dangling below the silk.
SOB of da eLiTe Punk XgamerZ!
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Originally posted by brady:
I always say u can tell a lot about somebody by how they play a game....
Brady
Tell that to the Darryl Strawberry fans
NUTTZ
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Wanna borrow some pliers SOB? Them hooks can be a b*tch to take out sometimes (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Told ya it'd work Lizard.....
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Ak dude, that's a TA-152, not a D9. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
We're real heroes, and take our ta152s into furballs, knowing they're con magnets.
Much more fun (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).
i don't use elevated sight in ta152 because it doesn't give an advantage in that plane. i do in A8 and A5 though (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
ROFL kirin, good thing you censored the name, whoever that was, he must be a true Satan.
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Von Santa
Staffelkapitän 9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"If you return from a mission with a victory, but without your Rottenflieger, you have lost your battle."
- D. Hrabak, JG 54 "Grünherz"
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eh? I thought this whole thread was a troll! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Originally posted by StSanta:
Ak dude, that's a TA-152, not a D9. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
We're real heroes, and take our ta152s into furballs, knowing they're con magnets.
Much more fun (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).
i don't use elevated sight in ta152 because it doesn't give an advantage in that plane. i do in A8 and A5 though (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Flown the Ta152 twice, as far as I can tell the D9 and 152 look identical from my limited flight time in both. <shrug> I was hoping to dispell the myth that the D9's gunnery is, as the LWieners put it, "porked". (http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/otn/funny/1poke.gif)
Now as far the A5 and getting an advantage by moving the head up higher, I dunno... I always did fine with it when I sat in my seat like a NORMAL person with his limbs INSIDE of the canopy.
Gimme any plane and a death dot, and I'll make hell freeze over. (http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/otn/mfinger/thefinger_red.gif)
-SW
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I don't think I've intentionally went after a chute until tonight...
Man... he was right there.. dangling in the breeze and I drilled him. All in all... quite exhilirating... especially when he called me names afterwords... I think it was something to the effect of "chute shooting dweeb"... too funny.
<S> Torp...
BTW... I liked that so much, I think I'll do it again... and again.
LOL!
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cheers,
sand
screamin blue messiahs (http://www.screaminbluemessiahs.org)
The SBM's are hiring! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum11/HTML/000263.html)
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LOL seawulfe, i hear ya
Still cannot hit anything with D9, so I take A8 instead. Love the snapshot ability of that plane (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Von Santa
Staffelkapitän 9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"If you return from a mission with a victory, but without your Rottenflieger, you have lost your battle."
- D. Hrabak, JG 54 "Grünherz"
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Ya know, if you look at some of the posts in here as jokes and not flames, this thread is pretty fediddleing hilarious. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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i think chute shooters are despicable. you should all go wash your mouths out with soap.
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IMO the reason why chute shooting pisses people off is:
1st Ego, having lost a fight and then your opponent spitting on the corpse
2nd Score
3rd Historically it was a despicable act.
OTOH it is true that anyone who bails at over 1k up and actually OPENS his chute did a mistake. Who would want to spend 2 minutes of game time hanging from a chute? Theyre better off shot away.
In h2h its common that people ask others to shoot theyre chute because they bailed in panic and want to come back to play (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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If it were anything near real, you'd be flying entirely different. You'd be changing your pants after every engagement. You'd be looking at things entirely different.
Wonder why the community insists on correct FM's, gunnery models etc?
After all, its only a game! )
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'Funny thing about "community", its tough not to be one of the sheep..': Tronski
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I wasn't going to reply to this thread but here goes...
In real life I can see the strategic value in eliminating the enemy's pilots. Keep them from commming up again and possibly killing one of your mates. Don't really know how I would react in that situation if I were ever put in it.
In here, in Aces High, we are playing at real life however, as many have pointed out, it is just a game.
In any game I play I beleive in sportsmanship. I like to give and take, play fair, and keep it upbeat. If I score on my opponent, in our case here shoot him down, I salute him. I shot him down because he made a mistake giving me the advantage necessary to do so. If I shoot his chute I feel I am rubbing it in. I don't personaly see that as necessary. It's a form of gloating in my viewpoint and not in keeping with my thoughts of keeping the game "upbeat".
I see it, chute shooting, not as a moral issue or a matter of "honor" per se but as an indicator of the type of character of an individual. Since this is just a game I don't really beleive that that character is necessarily flawed, but different.
If that chutist carried a 20mm Hispano and could shoot back it would change the entire way I would view this. He would then not be defensless. To shoot at someone who can't shoot back to me is more a matter of poor taste and a lack of sportsmanship.
Now this is the way I view it and I certainly don't feel everyone should see things the way I see them. We each pay our money to enjoy this game. I do feel that being shot in a chute reduces my enjoyment therefore I don't wish to reduce the other guys enjoyment.
I have quit bailing from my plane. It bothers me enough to get shot in my chute that I don't wish to put myself in that situation again. It probably screws my k/d ratio but since it isn't anything to brag about anyway I don't see it as much of a loss.
'Nuff said.
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Salute Gents,
Chute shooting is a controversial subject, no doubt. My personal feeling is that someone that shoots chutes is, A. Trying to rub it in, or trolling. B. Trying to pork your score by messing with your kill/death ratio. Or C. Trying to remove a possible source of information to the enemy. I only consider the third motivation to be acceptable, myself. People are wasting ammo when they shoot chutes, thus limiting their own ability to defend themselves when attacked, and their ability to do meaningful damage to the enemy. Thus they are acting in a way inconsistent with teamwork. (we never see anything inconsistent with teamwork in AH do we?)
I fly in such a manner as to always be an asset to my team. I look at the map and see where I can do the most good for Knights. That might be doing something I don't particularly enjoy, or am not particularly good at. The team comes first though. Not everyone plays this way. Make no mistake, I don't expect everyone to but it WOULD be nice.
I have been known to take up a zeke at an airfield under attack by 10+ cons. This is heck on your kill/death ratio. However, if I can fly little patterns over the field and frustrate those 10+ cons long enough for the ack to return and hangars to come back up or pilots to get off the airfield without being vulched, the enemy won't get that field. Furthermore, they will be essentially wasting the resources sent to take that base (the 10+ pilots trying to shoot me down, rather than taking the base). In this manner I have done the most good with the least resources (one pilot and a zeke).
Back to the subject of chute shooting, I will use an old t-shirt slogan to describe my feelings on that... "Mean people suck". (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) People are going to do whatever they wish, nothing to be done about it, I think it is poor sportsmanship and definitely a sign of a character flaw to do it for any other reason than to prevent chute spying. I disagree with some others that it is acceptable since it is not real life.
I do not alter my behavior simply because I am in a game, I do what I should do, or what I feel is right ALL the time, period. I have stayed in a fight with no ammo because my wingie was outnumbered and the enemy avoiding me getting on their six (they don't know I am winchester) may improve his chances for survival. Yeah, it's just a game, but you are either honorable or you ain't. Saying it's just a game doesn't cut it IMHO. It is an excuse for your behavior, and why excuse it if it is something you are proud of?
GIJeff
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Whether I shoot a chute depends largely on the opponent I'm fighting. I will shoot chutes belonging to pilots flying in what I consider a dweeby manner, especially if they do so in a dweeby plane (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).
Never shot zigrat, hblair in a chute. Only had very few chances though (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).
Chogs and HO spits get 20mm death hanging from their chute. My way of trying to get people to fly other planes (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).
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Von Santa
Staffelkapitän 9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"If you return from a mission with a victory, but without your Rottenflieger, you have lost your battle."
- D. Hrabak, JG 54 "Grünherz"
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Originally posted by Mark Luper:
To shoot at someone who can't shoot back to me is more a matter of poor taste and a lack of sportsmanship.
I guess this means we can count on you to leave those gooney birds alone then, right? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Sling322
Not a Monitor!
Fat Drunk "Chute Shooting" Bastards
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Point well taken sling (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).
I do beleive there is a difference though. The guy in the chute who just got shot down can't capture a base. A gooney bird has that ability and therefore needs to be shot down.
I have been shot down flying a gooney bird and that is what I expect when I don't have sufficient cover or if I approach a base and the ack has not been silenced or any enemy gv are present there.
I would rather not expect getting shot bailing from my airplane.
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Chute shooting is as good as a troll...
Don't take the bait guys.....if it happens to you, wait a lil longer to open or ride that baby to the ground next time. Or do what I do...raid the fridge while my 'plane' tumbles to the ground (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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I didn't express myself clearly I think, or some didn't read what I said very carefully.
Does anyone care in here about non-paying when you take the train? Personnally, I don't give a crap and do this every week when I go to Paris. But some of my friends think that is intolerable. I don't even argue with them anymore about it.
You see my point? No need to discuss it. We feel it bad or not, that's all.
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"Does anyone care in here about non-paying"
Well, I do. Were I come from we call it stealing.
And shooting a man hanging defenseless in a chute. Well U probably know what thats called too.
Flame away.
mrniel
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Originally posted by mrniel:
And shooting a man hanging defenseless in a chute. Well U probably know what thats called too.
Fun? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Good point SOB.....good point!!!
I agree completely!!
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Sling322
Not a Monitor!
Fat Drunk "Chute Shooting" Bastards
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Hanging out with the FDB's in the Dueling Arena seems to have affected me somewhat. I shot my first chute the other day and I must say it was quite refreshing:
I was flying at about 8k in my Seafire when a higher N1K engaged me. The N1K attacked with a HO which I avoided by pulling up into the vertical with an early turn. Rolling while in the vertical I pulled through onto the 6 of the niki and pulled inside his turn to pepper him with 20mm shells. His plane fell apart and I rolled wings level.
I then remembered some disturbing radio chatter about a dweeb niki pilot in the same area shooting a typhoon driver while he was in his chute.
A sly smile crept across my features as I pulled my seafire into an immelman and lined up on the chute. I pulled through the strafing pass and pulled the trigger for about half a second. The chute disappeared in a satisfying puff of flame and smoke.
Only two regrets: The niki pilot did not whine on channel 1 (guess he was the guy who shot the Typh chute before (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) ) and I forgot to roll film to get a screenshot for Dinger's competition.
Hope this helps some get over the chute shooting debate going on above.
P.S. Thanks FDB's for your helpful advice on chute shooting.
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And I did not even know bailing affected ya kill ratio. Hmm interesting.
I guess being pretty new to AH made me just kinda like enjoy looking at all the pretty eye candy and action going on around my silly bellybutton shot-down bellybutton if I actually managed to be fast enug to bail out when the head-on shooters leave me enuf plane to bail from!
Now I understand why some pilots are freeking when I congratulate them on shooting my bellybutton down!
This affects some kinda points and stuff??
Oh, Oh.. ok, .. OK, I see now.
Damn. Guess I am gonna just have to quit bailing and enjoying the view and spoil their day and ride em down.
Never even had thought of bailing over an enemy base and using it as an intel run though, oh my what a killer idea!!
Good thread tho for us dweebs to learn what country to not fly from and what to expect from which players! And bailing affect points and k/d ratios huh. Hmmm, this is really gonna take some reconsideration fer sure, yep yep yep
Doc
Damned if we do!
No fun if we don't!