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Title: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: skorpx1 on February 06, 2013, 09:39:26 PM
There's a few good bands out there in the metal industry, and recently some bands have decided to step into new directions. I for one am all for new experiences and new sounds, but some people are just stubborn and refuse to listen to anything but the "old stuff" and stay in the past. Some examples of bands taking new directions would be Job For a Cowboy, Whitechapel, Dimmu Borgir and (I know they're not metal) Alice in Chains. Some of you might listen to these bands, some might listen to other types of music and that's fine, we don't have to limit this to just metal, but if you have a band that you listen to and they took new directions feel free to share.


Now with that being said - Would you consider yourself to be one willing to experience the new stuff or are you one who wants to stay in the past and listen to the "good ol' days" type of music?
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: Meatwad on February 06, 2013, 09:58:34 PM
Good ol days

Them dang young kids and their loud music and hippie haircuts  :D
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: ACE on February 06, 2013, 10:23:41 PM
I have listened to job for a cowboy one time.  That is the most disturbing thing ever.  How can you listen to it when you cant understand them??
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: Saxman on February 06, 2013, 10:37:27 PM
I listen to KSHE and am content.
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: Motherland on February 07, 2013, 01:12:38 AM
Metal in and of itself hasn't really changed all that much since the 90s, certainly in intensity, which is actually something that can be said for a lot of music to an extent. I mean Dimmu Borgir is really early 90s and Alice in Chains formed in the late 80s I think. Today's metal scene consists primarily of bands that either play really bad metalcore or deathcore and bands that are solidly planted in the early 90s death, black and doom scenes. Not to say that there isn't innovation within those boundaries, but there isn't really anything going on that's as boundary pushing and totally new as those black and death metal bands were in the 90s. Even the most brutal modern bands aren't a stones throw away from someone like Napalm Death or... something in that vein. If they even get that far
The internet age ushered in a fad of retrospection really beginning in the 2000s and a significant amount... almost all even... of music has been the result of revivals, genre mashing, or some kind of nostalgic something or other, and there really haven't been people pushing and just pounding dissonance like there has been since up until... like the 90s. Nothing has gotten any more 'unlistenable' for people without the proper context since, like, Merzbow and the harsh/wall noise scene matured in the mid 90s

Although I find what's happening with music nowadays very interesting
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: danny76 on February 07, 2013, 03:44:53 AM
I had to go and listen to Job for a Cowboy, I had never heard of them before.

Now people that know me comment on how ecclectic my musical tastes are. I listen to everything from classical to rock, heavy metal, country and western, indy and so on.

What I just heard then is possibly the most unadulterated crap its been my unfortunate experience to listen to. Comments on Youtube are all.about how anarchistic the people who claim to enjoy listening to this excuse for music.
Apparently on guy also enjoys the soothing tones of Feotal Death.. Give me strength.
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: uptown on February 07, 2013, 06:34:12 AM
I listen to KSHE and am content.
you too?!  :rock Best station in the country!
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: Meatwad on February 07, 2013, 08:38:53 AM
You listening to it local or streaming?

Its strong here, also can get KGMO out of Cape very good also
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: jd on February 07, 2013, 10:16:25 AM
 :old: im old school as hell, but LOG and 5fDP are laying it down :rock
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: uptown on February 07, 2013, 10:31:24 AM
You listening to it local or streaming?

Its strong here, also can get KGMO out of Cape very good also
I stream KSHE. I'm a good six hours from St.Louis
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: 1pLUs44 on February 07, 2013, 01:12:11 PM
:old: im old school as hell, but LOG and 5fDP are laying it down :rock

QFT! Along with ATR and Hatebreed!  :rock :rock
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 07, 2013, 01:34:52 PM
Heavy metal sucks.  Carry on.


ack-ack
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: Frodo on February 07, 2013, 01:43:36 PM
I listen to KSHE and am content.

Yep for the last 30+ years.  :rock   :old:


I am about 80 miles out of ST.Louis and it is nice and clear. Grew up with it and the concerts it brought to ST.Louis  Good times!  :noid
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: Motherland on February 07, 2013, 02:31:12 PM
What I just heard then is possibly the most unadulterated crap its been my unfortunate experience to listen to. Comments on Youtube are all.about how anarchistic the people who claim to enjoy listening to this excuse for music.
If you found that abrasive then you can't have listened to that much music  :old:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hAIN2ueeIo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wgA9L5TN5M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpeWUt7BUlE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AIJuRGYmWk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mahS6DCwy_U

Pushing the boundaries of what's listenable and recognizable is what music as an artform is all about !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlGh_okr5nI

Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: skorpx1 on February 07, 2013, 03:24:25 PM
I had to go and listen to Job for a Cowboy, I had never heard of them before.

What I just heard then is possibly the most unadulterated crap its been my unfortunate experience to listen to. Comments on Youtube are all.about how anarchistic the people who claim to enjoy listening to this excuse for music.
Apparently on guy also enjoys the soothing tones of Feotal Death.. Give me strength.
JFAC is nowhere near being revolutionary anarchists, as the idiots on YouTube claim they are. In multiple radio interviews/interviews with different music bases they have said they aren't anarchists. They do not like the current government and are using their freedom of speech to speak out against it. If you wanna talk politics about their music then feel free to PM me.

The bassist, who is most likely the best in the metal business, works for both JFAC and Cephalic Carnage. Cephalic Carnage is a good band, slightly f--ked up sometimes but its good. There is however a difference between listenable and recognizable as Motherland has said. Death metal/black metal may not be your type of music because you cant understand what's being sung, but there is such thing as a lyrics sheet to know what you're listening to.

Of course death metal and black metal are only two types of metal. Deftones for example is good normal metal and you can understand every word being said 99% of the time. At least in metal there's a point for writing the music and lyrics unlike mainstream "rock" and "pop" these days.


:old: im old school as hell, but LOG and 5fDP are laying it down :rock

FFDP, LoG, and Hatebreed are all great metal bands. Its good to see some of the old school guys recognizing that. Its a shame that Randy from LoG is being put on trial in Czechoslovakia for a crime he didn't commit.


Heavy metal sucks.  Carry on.


ack-ack

If you don't like it then don't post about it in a clearly metal based thread. Sure you're allowed to have your opinion but if you say that around here you better have your flame suit on before those who think having a different opinion is bad and illegal.
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: Ack-Ack on February 07, 2013, 04:42:46 PM


If you don't like it then don't post about it in a clearly metal based thread. Sure you're allowed to have your opinion but if you say that around here you better have your flame suit on before those who think having a different opinion is bad and illegal.

Oh, I'm not worried about some little tween squeaker trying to flame me, you can give it your best shot though.

ack-ack
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: Saxman on February 07, 2013, 04:43:59 PM
You listening to it local or streaming?

Its strong here, also can get KGMO out of Cape very good also

On the air in the car, streaming at work.
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: jd on February 07, 2013, 05:13:49 PM
Hatebreed had the biggest moshpit Ive ever seen in my life at Ozzfest here in NorCal couple years back :rock :rock :rock
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: Motherland on February 07, 2013, 05:23:14 PM
At least in metal there's a point for writing the music and lyrics unlike mainstream "rock" and "pop" these days.
lel wat
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: skorpx1 on February 07, 2013, 05:26:22 PM
lel wat


Mainstream rock and pop is usually a bunch of repetitive horse crap spewed out by these auto-tuned/tone deaf groups/singers. A great example of this would be One Direction (How 5 gay guys walk) or Lil Wayne. Look up a song by either of those "artists" and you'll know what i'm saying.


Oh, I'm not worried about some little tween squeaker trying to flame me, you can give it your best shot though.

ack-ack

Since when did I say i'd be doing the honors? However with the way you're acting you sure sound like you want me to do it.
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: Motherland on February 07, 2013, 05:42:31 PM
Mainstream rock and pop is usually a bunch of repetitive horse crap spewed out by these auto-tuned/tone deaf groups/singers. A great example of this would be One Direction (How 5 gay guys walk) or Lil Wayne. Look up a song by either of those "artists" and you'll know what i'm saying.
There's a lot of top-40 pop that I'd rather listen to than Nickelback/ICP-tier metal like 5FDP and Lamb of God
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: Saxman on February 07, 2013, 07:46:21 PM
Just make your own playlist to cut out the stuff you don't care for.  :D
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: Groth on February 07, 2013, 10:17:11 PM
 Bubble gum Goth..gotta give kuddos to someone takes negitive spew and turns it positive...sorry if bit off topic..but than no, I'm not..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXMeZwO2qZ0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXMeZwO2qZ0)
JGroth
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: Groth on February 07, 2013, 10:27:23 PM
 Okay..more on topic..what is song and artist used on this clip? Any ideas? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5TNWzE-oS8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5TNWzE-oS8)
cana find it anywhere..brunette, likes dogs, mute..what's not to like?

JGroth
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: danny76 on February 08, 2013, 01:16:08 AM
I would have thought if they were using their freedom of speech in order to protest against the government , they would be emminently more successful if anybody could understand a word they are screaming :old:

Also, I never said anything about the group being anarchistic, I said the people that claim to listen to it perceive themselves as anarchist, predominantly because it pisses mommy and daddy off, probably in much the same way as them painting their nails black and growing their hair over their faces does :old:
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: BoilerDown on February 08, 2013, 02:24:04 AM
This could well be the best Metallica song of all time; its easily in my top 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftV_XepIwpo .

But its from after their snobbily regarded years (although by now, it is itself an old song).  Anyways, I put Bleeding Me on the first CD I ever burned when I first got my Phillips 2x SCSI CD burner.

Me?  I'm always on the side of the stuff that I like.  I don't give a rat's behind what anyone else thinks.  And it doesn't matter if its Daft Punk or Mars, the Bringer of War.  Good music is good, regardless of what the artist established themselves as before, regardless of when it was made.
Title: Re: The Metal War - Which Side Are You On?
Post by: uptown on February 08, 2013, 09:36:07 AM
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/southernrock_zpsc60de6a6.jpg) http://youtu.be/yu0BCZFwI6c  http://youtu.be/wtC7i4KMRgo