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Title: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: Sundowner on February 16, 2013, 04:50:44 AM
The only thing we learn from history (and literature) is...we never learn from history (and literature).

Tip-of-the-day: Never bring a camera into your home that can be controlled by an outside third party.

Regards,
Sun


Intel's telescreen

David Manners
Friday 15 February 2013 14:41

Intel intends to sell set top boxes which can see what you're doing in your home. It will be able to identify each individual watcher of a domestic TV.

The information gathered will allow companies to target advertising at specific telly-watching individual. The box will be sold by Intel Media. Erik Huggers, vp of Intel Media, says that it delivers a TV which 'actually cares about who you are'.

Naturally many people have likened the Intel box to the telescreen in George Orwell's 1984 which kept populations under surveillance.

"This is data collection solely for commercial purposes," says Nick Pickles Director of Big Brother Watch, warning that these Internet-connected boxes can be hacked so becoming "Orwell's telescreens controlled by strangers with laptops."

Intel says several hundred of its employees are currently testing the box in their homes and it hopes to launch the service this year.

http://www.electronicsweekly.com/Articles/15/02/2013/55575/intels-telescreen.htm
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on February 16, 2013, 05:00:15 AM
Most people already have webcams that can (and sometimes already are) controlled by third parties  ;)
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: guncrasher on February 16, 2013, 05:05:03 AM
Most people already have webcams that can (and sometimes already are) controlled by third parties  ;)

most people dont have a web camera,  but of those who do, they can be controlled by third parties.

midway
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: Skuzzy on February 16, 2013, 06:32:15 AM
Preemptive strike:

This topic could easily degrade into a political discussion. Don't do it.

Carry on.
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: Dragon Tamer on February 16, 2013, 10:20:06 AM
Preemptive strike:

This topic could easily degrade into a political discussion. Don't do it.

Carry on.

Will do.  :aok

I myself see an issue with the boxes being controlled by hackers. A friend of mine had their webcam hacked in a chat-roulette style hacking... nuf' said.

I don't see the point of doing this anyway, I never watch commercials. I either change the channel or go do something else in between the show times. My problem is that commercials irritate the hell out of me, especially when it's the some one over and over... and over again. Once election time rolls around I stop watching TV all together (sorry Skuzzy it's the only time I promise).
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: james on February 16, 2013, 10:48:53 AM
Wasn't Verizon going to try something like this in a DVR that had a microphone to listen to the room for the same thing? Think of how many xbox kinects are out there already doing this probably.
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: Dragon on February 16, 2013, 12:34:14 PM
We DVR everything and FF over the commercials.  Who in their right mind would want to be spied upon?


I'm not into giving big brother or any advertising group any info about my habits.
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on February 16, 2013, 01:02:07 PM
most people dont have a web camera,  but of those who do, they can be controlled by third parties.

midway

Most people do have a webcam these days. It may shock you but most laptops come with an integrated webcam and some people actually use Skype etc. tools to make video calls so they have a webcam installed to the desktop also  :lol
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: Lusche on February 16, 2013, 04:44:05 PM
Finally someone who cares about me!  :pray TY Intel!


Most people do have a webcam these days. It may shock you but most laptops come with an integrated webcam


My wife has put tape over her cam built into the netbook. Just to be sure.  :D
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: Skuzzy on February 16, 2013, 04:50:07 PM
We DVR everything and FF over the commercials.  Who in their right mind would want to be spied upon?
<snip>

Anyone with a Facebook account.

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My wife has put tape over her cam built into the netbook. Just to be sure.  :D

The Mac laptop the Wife used to carry around had the camera filled with epoxy.  They did that to all the company computers.

We do not have a any type of camera attached to any electronic device in the house.  Even the cameras in the phones have been covered with black paint once my Wife discovered her camera phone was on, recording, and then turned off by itself.

Fun times.  Woot!
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: titanic3 on February 16, 2013, 09:36:27 PM
I like being spied on...lets me know some one out there cares.  :cry
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: guncrasher on February 17, 2013, 12:33:34 AM
and the first time that box on top catches some youngsters in the act, then somebody is going to jail for transmitting under age movies.  and that will be the end of the box.


midway
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: zack1234 on February 17, 2013, 02:17:11 AM
I have a webcam its lost in my junk :old:

I used it last year on the request of Floatsup and his cat :)

He was playing AH in his pyjamas while his cat was having a mad half hour :rofl

I subsequently lost my webcam :)

People voluntarily submitting their personal details and activity is amazing, I have 3000 friends on facebook :rofl

This forum is my only social network site :)

I love you all in a manly way :old:       
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on February 17, 2013, 04:09:22 AM

The Mac laptop the Wife used to carry around had the camera filled with epoxy.  They did that to all the company computers.


If they did that one can ask what else they did to mess up the computer. No wonder you had major problems!
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: Skuzzy on February 17, 2013, 08:45:55 AM
If they did that one can ask what else they did to mess up the computer. No wonder you had major problems!

Had nothing to do with the issues they had.  The laundry list of the things they had issues were lengthy.  Once they got 25+ items on the list they gave up.  At the end of the day the experiment was costing them way to much money.

They actually did a nice job with the epoxy.  It looked like it belonged there.
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: Lusche on February 17, 2013, 10:01:07 AM
The laundry list of the things they had issues were lengthy.  Once they got 25+ items on the list they gave up. 

like...

Epoxy on the HD...Epoxy on the screen...Epoxy clogging up the CPU fan...


Yes, I would have dropped that MacBook too  :old:


 :D
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: Dragon Tamer on February 17, 2013, 10:28:54 AM
When the US was upgrading to the DTV system a few years ago, there were a lot of conspiracy theories going around that the converter boxes had cameras and mics built into them. Some people mad fake videos where they simply glued in a camera and a mic but it wasn't actually connected to anything. I knew better but I still cracked open every converter box we bought just to be sure... didn't find anything.

My mom got a converter box for her bedroom and she noticed that it would turn itself on in the middle of the night. She thought for sure someone was spying on her despite everything I told her.

Of course the real reason was that the FCC was trying to free up some of the bandwidth for other applications. Since this type of "smart TV" has no real or practical application I don't see it catching on.
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: Skuzzy on February 17, 2013, 03:57:32 PM
like...

Epoxy on the HD...Epoxy on the screen...Epoxy clogging up the CPU fan...


Yes, I would have dropped that MacBook too  :old:


 :D

LOL!  No, but one of the reasons they did not go with Apple was due to Apple refusing to disable the cameras. :)
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: Maverick on February 18, 2013, 12:14:43 PM
I don't have a laptop with a camera and never even thought about buying a web cam for the table top. If the next laptop has a camera in it I'll be adding a little bit o' duct tape to the unit.  :huh
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on February 18, 2013, 01:41:39 PM
I don't have a laptop with a camera and never even thought about buying a web cam for the table top. If the next laptop has a camera in it I'll be adding a little bit o' duct tape to the unit.  :huh

Or maybe consider taking stronger medication for paranoia. Of course if you're going to run windows anything is always possible! :D
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: deadstikmac on February 19, 2013, 10:26:01 AM
Middleman fun at Starbucks wifi  :x
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on February 19, 2013, 11:56:53 AM
LOL!  No, but one of the reasons they did not go with Apple was due to Apple refusing to disable the cameras. :)

Why didn't they just disable it themselves by rooting the computer and by deleting the QuickTimeUSBVDCDIgitizer.comp onent?
Title: Re: A TV which 'actually cares about who you are'
Post by: Skuzzy on February 19, 2013, 02:46:07 PM
Why didn't they just disable it themselves by rooting the computer and by deleting the QuickTimeUSBVDCDIgitizer.comp onent?

A software solution can be as good as the next update.  They needed a hardware solution or to be able to visibly prove the camera could not work, in order to meet a particular contract.