Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: EagleDNY on February 18, 2013, 03:02:52 PM
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You know, it would be awful helpful if when you were in the hanger, placing the cursor next to a fuel loadout would give you an idea of how many minutes of flying time (or range in miles) you could expect to get loading that much fuel. I've been trying out some new rides, and it is all trial and error to figure out how much fuel to take along.
So, for example, I have my B-17s in the hanger, and I put the cursor over the 25% fuel load and POOF - up pops a little clipboard or something telling me that I have 35 minutes flying time at 25% fuel. Perhaps some mission profile data could be included - example, climb out to 12,000 ft. - 10 minutes (20 miles), travel 10 minutes @ 250mph (42 miles), return to base 15 minutes (62 miles). Something that would give the pilot (or mission planner) a better idea of how much fuel to load into each aircraft.
For drop tanks, a quick mouse over the Spitfire slipper tank for example would pop up a "30 Gallons = +5 minutes" note on the clipboard.
Admittedly, this will take a bit of data compilation to do - but it would be useful data to have, and it could actually be compiled by some helpful volunteers in the player base and added to the AH Wiki as well.
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At what altitude, throttle and RPM settings should it calculate this?
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this might help for now
http://ebookbrowse.com/ah2-fuelburn-v2-2-pdf-d267593793
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At what altitude, throttle and RPM settings should it calculate this?
Just pick one, post info for all the aircraft at "that" altitude and power setting.....say 10,000' and full throttle. That at least gives a ballpark figure to work from when choosing fuel loadouts.
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How about burn time @ full throttle w/ various fuel loads? That would be easier than figuring alt /throttle setting/ weight.
~S~ Buck
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How about burn time @ full throttle w/ various fuel loads? That would be easier than figuring alt /throttle setting/ weight.
~S~ Buck
So is this burn time at 200ft or 25000ft? they very greatly. Or in the case of the jets, 200mhp or 500mph?
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This is virtually impossible to calculate because there are too many variables to take in to consideration under the playing conditions in AH. While it could be estimated I supposed, I encourage people to pay attention on their own right and learn how different aircraft handle different flying conditions. Altitude, engine settings, take off weight, WEP usage, etc, they all have a bearing in AH. Ever notice how most aircraft burn fuel more efficiently as they get higher in altitude? There are a lot of aircraft that say "40 mins" when you take off and then 10 minutes later at high altitudes the "flight time" is at "38 mins" (or something similar).
Forget what the fuel gauge is telling you, get your E6B up and pay attention to that. I often hear "low on fuel, I'm RTB". I'll promptly ask "how much do you have left", and usually they reply "under a half tank", "only a 1/4th tank". My knee jerk question right after that is, "how much time do you have left, or what is your range". Inevitably, I hear "100 miles", or "13 miniutes", or some figure in that vicinity. I usually mention that they have a lot more fuel than they think and to not pay attention to the gauge, but it seems to fall on deaf ears.
The E6B tells all (or at least a far better snapshot) and it tells the picture MUCH better. Use it.
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So is this burn time at 200ft or 25000ft? they very greatly. Or in the case of the jets, 200mhp or 500mph?
Hi fish, if the alt effects the runtime of the engine(s), that's news to me, and good to know, thanks. I had just started jotting it down upon takeoff at full throttle. I'm still going to, at the least it will be a rough reference. ~S~ Buck
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You would have to have the code for your front end to grab the arena settings and apply the fuel multiplier.
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I like the idea.
HiTech
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Full throttle (MIL) time at speed 0 and alt 0 is sufficient.
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I understand this is not going to be an exact to the second or to the mile calculation, and yes "your performance may vary" depending upon external ord, wep usage, etc. The 'real world MA' usage of the data is probably going to be how many minutes of full military power do I get with each 25% fuel addition and with each drop tank I take. That would be enough to at least let a mission planner put the right amount of fuel in his various bomber escorts.
More info is a good thing.
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this might help for now
http://ebookbrowse.com/ah2-fuelburn-v2-2-pdf-d267593793
Yes, - definitely that helps! <S> and thank you for that data.
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Would be handy.
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Full throttle (MIL) time at speed 0 and alt 0 is sufficient.
thats exactly whats in the chart i made that someone posted a link to at the beginning of the thread. :neener:
(actually that is a real old version, and I have a newer one, but even it has not been updated since 2011)
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I like it. Sea level, 10k feet, 20k feet, 30k feet at full throttle would be about all I think anybody'd need.
Wiley.
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thats exactly whats in the chart i made that someone posted a link to at the beginning of the thread. :neener:
(actually that is a real old version, and I have a newer one, but even it has not been updated since 2011)
well, cough it up.
:cheers:
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thats exactly whats in the chart i made that someone posted a link to at the beginning of the thread. :neener:
(actually that is a real old version, and I have a newer one, but even it has not been updated since 2011)
I have that old chart, and it is good data to have. An updated version of that data in the AH Wiki would be a good place to start, but I would still like to see that data in the hanger during mission planning.