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Special Events Forums => Friday Squad Operations => Topic started by: surfinn on March 02, 2013, 05:21:04 PM
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This is why there should be one and if ya want to see the vid just ask poopy he has it. I personally think this guy shouldn't be allowed to fly FSO as this was obviously on purpose. I have never had a problem with this player so I have no idea what his motive was for this.
Oh and with 7 friendly fire incidents this fso it might have made the diff between winning and loosing
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Fratricide
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Stay tuned sports fans close ups soon to come. This wide angle shows that there was no other enemy ac around me at the time.
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Friendly above, behind and closing a friendly
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Noses down slight roll to the left. Accident?
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Continues to go left saying nothing of his burst after closing for a minute
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Scratching heads here
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If ya look at these pics I'm nose on to the rear of the bombers. This guy is actually nose down on me. the bombers were 800 off my nose there is no way he can say he was shooting at the bombers from his angle of attack on my ac. I ask the CMS to investigate this and do something about it. As much as I dislike some Axis players as competition I would never shoot them down while I'm flying with them. On purpose like this. I had at least 3 kills cumming to me if i wouldn't have gone boom like that.
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luckie is new to AH (3-4 months if my memory serves) and as far as I know doesn't fly in the main very often. His son flies with jg-11 and brought him into the game. I'm confident he didn't do it deliberately and would say it was a noob mistake.
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Well if ya feel that way then ya should watch the film its obvious he was on my 6 and trying to kill me and ya say his son flys for JG11?? lol makes since now
His smooth angle of attack was nothing like a mistake or a noob player he in one burst shot down a ac he was well aware was a friendly :mad:
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surfinn pretty sorry stuff there. I agree pretty poor sportsmenship as well. If this had happened to me I'd be hot!!
As to "who" was flying the plane. Just remember that a callsign is to the account and not "who" may have been flying and shooting at the time. We all know that visitors can sometimes gain control and fly, just saying. Never the less the callsign owner is responsible for the actions. This is a squad CO issue that I would like to think will be dealt with internal to that guys squad, and quickly. Otherwise there is likely to be problems with other squads wanting to coordinate and work together.
Not something we see very often and hopefully an isolated incident.
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That's epic! Not that any of us have a beef with eachother or anything like that, it's just funny. A jg/11 pilots dad shoots down a 35th pilot, another 35th pilot shoots down the same jg/11 pilots dad. Talk about coinsidences. None of us knew a 35th pilot was involved in a fraticide until the stats came out, now that was ironic. I see the possibility an accident may have occurred but they happened in completely different manners. We didn't purposely imploy a kill us kill you tactic to get even because we never knew until looking at the films. We had to really look for our pilots shot to see how it happened and it can be seen but it was in a heated area of the fight when we all caught up with the buffs. I don't know what to say about the way our pilot bought it. Not a word was said at anytime from him and it makes it hard to appologize for our wrong doing when this looks so blatantly concieved when looking at the film. :salute
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That's epic! Not that any of us have a beef with eachother or anything like that, it's just funny. A jg/11 pilots dad shoots down a 35th pilot, another 35th pilot shoots down the same jg/11 pilots dad. Talk about coinsidences. None of us knew a 35th pilot was involved in a fraticide until the stats came out, now that was ironic. I see the possibility an accident may have occurred but they happened in completely different manners. We didn't purposely imploy a kill us kill you tactic to get even because we never knew until looking at the films. We had to really look for our pilots shot to see how it happened and it can be seen but it was in a heated area of the fight when we all caught up with the buffs. I don't know what to say about the way our pilot bought it. Not a word was said at anytime from him and it makes it hard to appologize for our wrong doing when this looks so blatantly concieved when looking at the film. :salute
JG11 has nothing to do with any of this.
Did anyone ask the CO of Luckie's unit about it?
I know Luckie...He's a gentleman...and old enough to be most guys' here Grandfather.
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Luckie shot if I ever saw one.. ;)
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No I didn't ask him about it stampf. Its obvious what he did, although why is still a damn mystery for me. If it was perdweeb then I would get it. I'd really like to think he was trying to score a hit on those juicy patty melts d 800 off my guns but after watching the film over and over again there is no other conclusion other than it was on purpose.
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Another funny twist here.
Luckie's son...Who does fly with III/JG11...was a victim of III/JG11 friendly fire as well himself. :noid
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No I didn't ask him about it stampf. Its obvious what he did, although why is till a damn mystery for me. If it was perdweeb then I would get it. I'd really like to think he was trying to score a hit on those juicy patty melts d 800 off my guns but after watching the film over and over again there is no other conclusion other than it was on purpose.
I've been splattered by friendlies myself a couple times over the years. It sux.
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No I didn't ask him about it stampf. Its obvious what he did, although why is still a damn mystery for me. If it was perdweeb then I would get it. I'd really like to think he was trying to score a hit on those juicy patty melts d 800 off my guns but after watching the film over and over again there is no other conclusion other than it was on purpose.
You obviously don't know Perd. We'd all hapily leave you be if you were on our side. You're worth more to us as bait for allied planes.
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This is a squad CO issue that I would like to think will be dealt with internal to that guys squad, and quickly. Otherwise there is likely to be problems with other squads wanting to coordinate and work together.
Not something we see very often and hopefully an isolated incident.
I agree with this. I was totally pissed when I watched the film and posted angry.
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Don't understand how it happened or why you think it was on purpose,don't know you never heard of you. My first and I have no excuse other than I was having track ir problems and only remember red targets and since I did not record can only accept that I did so,as the log states so. All I can say is I'm sorry to have ruined your FSO.
Luckie
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I agree with this. I was totally pissed when I watched the film and posted angry.
I'm sorry this happend surfinn, but I assure you that this was an accident. Luckie is new to the game and is still learning. While I am not the CO or the XO for the CHawks in FSO, I am still an officer in the 364th and will defend Luckie in this matter as well as take full responsibility for this unfortunate accident. As in real life WWII air combat, to the best of my knowledge, FSO is set up to "simulate" if you will, this realism and this would include friendly kills. On another note, we're talking about a lot of 110's in very close proximity. Someone was bound to be killed by friendly fire with all of the fire power so close to each other. I am not trying to use this as a scapegoat, I'm just trying to see this situation as a whole.
Again, please accept my apology sir and I hope that this does not leave you wondering if it was done on purpose as it wasn't.
:salute :salute :salute :salute
Don't understand how it happened or why you think it was on purpose,don't know you never heard of you. My first and I have no excuse other than I was having track ir problems and only remember red targets and since I did not record can only accept that I did so,as the log states so. All I can say is I'm sorry to have ruined your FSO.
Luckie
Thank you Luckie for also apologizing.
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accepted
Its over as far as I'm concerned.
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<<S>> Surfinn, im not pokin the fire, just read all this. an ty for accepting luckies apology. i am the CO of the 364th chawks an can promise u it was not on purpose. luckie is new and a great guy. i take full responsibilty for what happened to the 110's hittin v31. we were noe heading to trgt an ran into the bostons same alt, same place. i made a split choice to hit the bostons heavy, 1 pass, then try to continue as i knew the allied fighters were coming. i know how i was killed by friendly fire, i turned as gremlin fired. was pure accident, an i do not blameData Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????!~ !~ 276698913MltCpy2.10 FILL FILLed Sector; ST500DM002-9YN14 (CC4H) S1D5GMZY Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs?????????????? the late post after its pretty much settled, reallife keeps shootin me dwn from all angles an as i said just saw this, but i stand by my guys an they were followin my orders.
I apologize to all involved, we'll dust ourselves off an try again.
<<S>> to all an see ya in the skies
QcareCH
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If it was perdweeb then I would get it.
You are way out of line bro. Unfortunately this kind of accusation/claim does not deserve a response from the accused. I may not be a friendly person and I may not like you but NOTHING justifies shooting down a comrade in an event on purpose. Absolutely NOTHING. To think that I would do it just because I do not like you says a lot about your intelligence.
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Don't understand how it happened or why you think it was on purpose,don't know you never heard of you. My first and I have no excuse other than I was having track ir problems and only remember red targets and since I did not record can only accept that I did so,as the log states so. All I can say is I'm sorry to have ruined your FSO.
Luckie
I can see it . As a squaddie of surffin I salute your doing the right thing appologizing, commendable on your part sir. :salute and thank you. Looking forward to flying with you in the future.
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accepted
Its over as far as I'm concerned.
well done! Very commendable sir :rock and a big ol sloppy :salute to you too!
Doc72, qcarech :salute, you guys rock! Thanks for your input.
Perdue, I appologize up front because I'm guilty of saying(didn't post it) the same thing but didn't limit my thoughts to only you being one to want to do this. :salute It's over, that's a good thing. It's rare occurance in here so let's not ruin a good thing. :aok
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well done! Very commendable sir :rock and a big ol sloppy :salute to you too!
Doc72, qcarech :salute, you guys rock! Thanks for your input.
Perdue, I appologize up front because I'm guilty of saying(didn't post it) the same thing but didn't limit my thoughts to only you being one to want to do this. :salute It's over, that's a good thing. It's rare occurance in here so let's not ruin a good thing. :aok
Pathetic. I dont have many qualities but honor is one of them. It appalls me and upsets me greatly that anyone, especially someone that only knows me through the BBS and my reputation, would accuse me of something as dishonorable and ludacris as killing friendlies on purpose. The fact that that even enters your mind in the honorable and glorious hall that is FSO speaks waves of your character. I have never and would never in my wildest dreams, whiskey drunk nights, or out-of-body experience kill a friendly purposely. I really really want to say something mean, but this is in public. For once, I am holding myself back.
Surfinn and poppy, you should be ashamed of yourselves for saying and thinking such things. Perdweeb killing a friendly on purpose. LOLZ
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:rofl whatever peace out :rock
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Get over your self, it wasn't directed at you. You were used as a example. Didn't say ya did or would. I said I wouldn't have been surprised if it was you. Now let it go punk.
And this is why you will never get respect. "Wasn't directed at you"? You specifically mentioned his name, saying that he would shoot down friendlies, which is utter trash. Your implications state you wouldn't be surprised, indicating that it's something you think he would do. It was a cute attempt to twist your words though. ;)
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We all know if Perd shot down friendlies, Ace8 would be 1st :noid
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Friend's Do not Let Friend's Fly Allied Ride's
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You obviously don't know Perd. We'd all hapily leave you be if you were on our side. You're worth more to us as bait for allied planes.
According to this post from your Sqaqudmate, you would "happily" use other Axis squads as bait. So we should believe you because...................... ............................. ............................. .....???
Just my 3.2 cents (according to the Royal Canadian Mint)
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According to this post from your Sqaqudmate, you would "happily" use other Axis squads as bait. So we should believe you because...................... ............................. ............................. .....???
Just my 3.2 cents (according to the Royal Canadian Mint)
I think the tongue-in-cheek went over your head.
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Nope Spikes just tongue 'n cheeking right back, hence the 3.2 cents bit :neener:
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I can't believe you 2, surfinn, Poppy, to think that perd would actually shoot down a friendly on purpose. That's just shear stupidity on your part. I know for a fact that perd would rather auger his plane than take the risk of shooting down an enemy!!!! I really think you 2 owe perd an apology. He,matter of fact all of us in the KN's, may not like some people that fly with us but we would NEVER shoot a friendly down on purpose!!!! Lets keep the FSO fun and knock all this crap out!!!!! :salute
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According to this post from your Sqaqudmate, you would "happily" use other Axis squads as bait. So we should believe you because...................... ............................. ............................. .....???
Just my 3.2 cents (according to the Royal Canadian Mint)
Not other axis squads, only surffin. :devil
(tongue in cheek here and in my last post, obviously)
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Nope Spikes just tongue 'n cheeking right back, hence the 3.2 cents bit :neener:
Touché. :salute
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In the heat of the moment the other night I pulled the trigger in all too tight of a situation taking a well earned kill away from 757200 and taking him out. Could not forget about that huge mistake. One real nice guy 757200 and one bone head move on my part. I vox my apologies but the damage was done. The penetrability in this case was loss of his respect that will take awhile for me earn back.
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Can't believe I missed this. :furious
I even had popcorn to eat...
Peace out?
Vanilla Ice?
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I can't believe you 2, surfinn, Poppy, to think that perd would actually shoot down a friendly on purpose. That's just shear stupidity on your part. I know for a fact that perd would rather auger his plane than take the risk of shooting down an enemy!!!! I really think you 2 owe perd an apology. He,matter of fact all of us in the KN's, may not like some people that fly with us but we would NEVER shoot a friendly down on purpose!!!! Lets keep the FSO fun and knock all this crap out!!!!! :salute
Alright. Okay Dragon, Perd, should I apologize for posting about a conversation that was had or for hurting Perd's feelings? If it was taken as an insult than I apologize here and now, wasn't my intention nor was it meant to be disrespectful either. Now if it was because I spoke truthfully of all the possibilities about something looking like this incident, that my squad discussed, I don't feel I should have to apologize. We talked about many possibilities and pilots, including times we ourselves saddled up on a friendly in FSO that in the MA's had been considered a cheapshot. That pilot knew what the insinuation was. Like you Perd we would never shoot down a friendly but I said we talked about it. All in fun. It's happened to us also, an FSO friendly we deal with in the MA's every once in a while saddles up on us too, we know what he's insinuating, because we've done it. Have you? Forgive me for sharing that. If I can speak my mind freely and truthfully though, without being accused of saying something I didn't actually say then why should I be the one apologizing, especially for my posts? Confirm what I posted before saying I said anything other. Surf said he could understand if it where you Perd, that was a shot at you not an accusation. OMG another free thinker spoke. Looks like that's what pissed you off. I think your looking for a beef with us or your not comprehending the posts properly, which is it, because your hitting me with allot of negative waves Moriarty. Besides, with the things you post you deserve to get your cage rattled every now and then but apparently you even take jabs at ya to the extreme. Recall Perd, your opening comment to me the first time you replied to one of my posts was an insult, not a jab. This is the first time since that I mentioned it to ya, think you can control taking everything so personal? I try. Like the shootdown was taken out of its context by us, so too have you taken this poke at ya out of its context. I can't understand the misinterpretation. :bolt:
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Thinking about it and actually doing are 2 different things, You didn't hurt my feelings at all. I have no beef with you I was just pointing out the comment to you. :salute :bolt:
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Thinking about it and actually doing are 2 different things, You didn't hurt my feelings at all. I have no beef with you I was just pointing out the comment to you. :salute :bolt:
:cheers: :salute
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Alright. Okay Dragon, Perd, should I apologize for posting about a conversation that was had or for hurting Perd's feelings? If it was taken as an insult than I apologize here and now, wasn't my intention nor was it meant to be disrespectful either. Now if it was because I spoke truthfully of all the possibilities about something looking like this incident, that my squad discussed, I don't feel I should have to apologize. We talked about many possibilities and pilots, including times we ourselves saddled up on a friendly in FSO that in the MA's had been considered a cheapshot. That pilot knew what the insinuation was. Like you Perd we would never shoot down a friendly but I said we talked about it. All in fun. It's happened to us also, an FSO friendly we deal with in the MA's every once in a while saddles up on us too, we know what he's insinuating, because we've done it. Have you? Forgive me for sharing that. If I can speak my mind freely and truthfully though, without being accused of saying something I didn't actually say then why should I be the one apologizing, especially for my posts? Confirm what I posted before saying I said anything other. Surf said he could understand if it where you Perd, that was a shot at you not an accusation. OMG another free thinker spoke. Looks like that's what pissed you off. I think your looking for a beef with us or your not comprehending the posts properly, which is it, because your hitting me with allot of negative waves Moriarty. Besides, with the things you post you deserve to get your cage rattled every now and then but apparently you even take jabs at ya to the extreme. Recall Perd, your opening comment to me the first time you replied to one of my posts was an insult, not a jab. This is the first time since that I mentioned it to ya, think you can control taking everything so personal? I try. Like the shootdown was taken out of its context by us, so too have you taken this poke at ya out of its context. I can't understand the misinterpretation. :bolt:
Very little of this made any sense.
EDIT: I have read it 3 times now, going to bed. I dont get it.
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You obviously don't know Perd. We'd all hapily leave you be if you were on our side. You're worth more to us as bait for allied planes.
Aint that the truth, sucks for the guys you 'escort'
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Very little of this made any sense.
EDIT: I have read it 3 times now, going to bed. I dont get it.
:rofl :rofl
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Aint that the truth, sucks for the guys you 'escort'
Just because he's bait doesn't mean we're going to let him die. :devil
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Very little of this made any sense.
EDIT: I have read it 3 times now, going to bed. I dont get it.
I understand now, it is a comprehension thing. Glad to realize you weren't looking to purposely start anything over nothing. :x :salute
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I understand now, it is a comprehension thing. Glad to realize you weren't looking to purposely start anything over nothing. :x :salute
Im a Southern boy. My IQ is less than 48 so you have to bear with me. My apologies.
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Im a Southern boy. My IQ is less than 48 so you have to bear with me. My apologies.
This stinks of truth.
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Im a Southern boy. My IQ is less than 48 so you have to bear with me. My apologies.
Now That's Funny! Just because I give my apologies too doesn't mean we gotta get mushy about it, was all in fun sir. :salute