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Title: C.202 and C.205 skins
Post by: Greebo on March 03, 2013, 12:00:27 PM
Does anyone have any C.202 or C.205 schemes they would like to reserve? I'd like to skin a few now while I've got some time, but don't want to pick something that another skinner would like to do later.
Title: Re: C.202 and C.205 skins
Post by: potsNpans on March 03, 2013, 03:18:25 PM
I had in mind to make 'Dai Banana'  Maresciallo Tarantola's and update Mag. Luigi Filippi's 202's. If possible to update the 205 skins that are in game now when the new model becomes available. 
Title: Re: C.202 and C.205 skins
Post by: Krusty on March 03, 2013, 07:39:56 PM
I'd like to reserve my 3 ANR C205s. I intend to update them for the new model.

I'd also like to reserve a c202 from Mario Pinna, 75 squadriglia 23 gruppo 3 Stormo. What sets this apart is the rather large green spots in his camo pattern. Rather different than the smaller spot patterns.

Image attached.
Title: Re: C.202 and C.205 skins
Post by: Dragon Tamer on March 03, 2013, 09:16:07 PM
I've decided to do one skin of each plane and one update (if allowed). I don't know which one I'm going to do yet so I am just showing the ones that I am interested in now while I research the skins a bit. I will pick the ones that I will do in a later post. If anyone also has any info related to these skins it would help save some time. And if you are interested in any of the ones that I post, just say so. I have no problem coming off of any skin that I haven't made up my mind on yet  ;)

For the sake of simplicity I've translated the Italian words to their English counter parts. Don't hate me for it.

C.202 of 73rd Squad of 9th group, 4th flock "F Baracca"
(http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/920/pics/32_68.jpg)

1st Squad of 1st group hunting "Veltro." If I had to pick just one, this would be it.
(http://hyperscale.com/2007/galleries/images/JP-549_C205-Visconti-ANR.jpg)
(http://www.finn.it/regia/immagini/macchi/macchi_c205_veltro_serie_III_mm92219.jpg)

C.202 84th Squad X group C.T. 4th flock "Folgore"
(http://hyperscale.com/2007/galleries/images/JP-544_C202-Lucchini.jpg)

These are the few that I'm interested in. If it's not already reserved I would definitely like to do the 1st Squad of 1st group hunting "Veltro."
Title: Re: C.202 and C.205 skins
Post by: Krusty on March 03, 2013, 10:32:13 PM
1-18 is currently a skin by Airmess but he's no longer around. Somebody else will pick it up, no doubt. I never liked how he did his skin for that plane. Didn't do it justice. I've got a similar grey ANR ride but with a different set of markings that is from the same unit. Mine is 7-1, although I could do a different plane code when I redo it. I'll be redoing that for the new planes. No reason you can't work on it also, but just letting you know something is in the works. :)

 :aok
Title: Re: C.202 and C.205 skins
Post by: Nyax on March 03, 2013, 11:03:44 PM
[quote author=Dragon Tamer link=topic=346274.msg4573492#msg4573492 date=1362366967
These are the few that I'm interested in. If it's not already reserved I would definitely like to do the 1st Squad of 1st group hunting "Veltro."
[/quote]

Oooh, the Veltro one looks really nice. I mean I haven't seen the all the skins yet, but that certainly has the look of my favorite skin for the c.205.
Title: Re: C.202 and C.205 skins
Post by: Dragon Tamer on March 04, 2013, 12:10:16 AM
1-18 is currently a skin by Airmess but he's no longer around. Somebody else will pick it up, no doubt. I never liked how he did his skin for that plane. Didn't do it justice. I've got a similar grey ANR ride but with a different set of markings that is from the same unit. Mine is 7-1, although I could do a different plane code when I redo it. I'll be redoing that for the new planes. No reason you can't work on it also, but just letting you know something is in the works. :)

 :aok

I give up... I scoured Google for an hour and couldn't find any pics of a 205 that matched your markings. Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough (or doing it right). I would say that a little competition never hurts, but against someone with so much more experience I would most likely loose.  :D I'll still make the skin and submit it, leave the decision to HTC.
Title: Re: C.202 and C.205 skins
Post by: FTJR on March 04, 2013, 01:05:05 AM
I'd like to do, 3-3 of 3 Squadriglia. I dont think it conflicts with anyone elses. If lt does please let me know.
Title: Re: C.202 and C.205 skins
Post by: Krusty on March 04, 2013, 01:52:47 AM
I give up... I scoured Google for an hour and couldn't find any pics of a 205 that matched your markings. Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough (or doing it right). I would say that a little competition never hurts, but against someone with so much more experience I would most likely loose.  :D I'll still make the skin and submit it, leave the decision to HTC.

That's a fair comment. In fact I do not have any real references to 7-1 other than some references Gatt helped me with long long ago. The numbers are just sequentially assigned, so 7-1 would have been one of the first planes in the squadron. I could really have chosen any number within the squadron's range. I chose plane #7 because on one particular page differentiating the different Squadriglia, it was showing the color codes. For 3 Sq it chose 5-3, for 2 sq it chose 13-2. For 1 Sq it chose 7-1. I had seen the others elsewhere and took the logical course that 7-1 was also for a plane. They used the same type of camo pattern on all planes in the same squadriglia, so I knew it was pretty much accurate.

Now that you bring this point up, that's a good thing for me to change when I redo the skin. There are several more famous examples from this squadron. I'll pick one of those.


P.S. I think a better translation for Gruppo Caccia would be "Pursuit Group" -- but I say this because in the U.S. we called fighters "Pursuit" planes, hence P-designations (P-51, P-47, etc). However when I named my skins I shortened Gruppo Caccia to GrC, so my skin was named "1º Sq, 1º GrC" for example.
Title: Re: C.202 and C.205 skins
Post by: Greebo on March 04, 2013, 02:57:47 AM
I went through this thread so far, plus checked in game and on the skins admin page for all the status of existing skins for the C.202 and C.205, here's what we have currently got:-

Listed as Air Force/Squadron/Plane number then skinner and status.

I couldn't find a plane number for Krusty's 75 Squadron C.202 and I'm assuming FTJR's 3/3 aircraft is an ANR C.205.

C.202

RA/75/- - Old default skin - taken
RA/84/1 - Croduh - orphaned, open to skin
Croatian AF/2.JGr/1 - Croduh - orphaned, open to skin
RA/386/1 - Croduh - orphaned, open to skin
RA/80/6 - Croduh - orphaned, open to skin
RA/91/7 - Croduh - orphaned, open to skin
RA/71/8 - BH3841 - orphaned, open to skin
RA/151/2 - PotsnPans - reserved
RA/75/- - PotsnPans - reserved
RA/75/? - Krusty - reserved
RA/73/10 - Dragon Tamer - reserved
RA/84/12 - Dragon Tamer - reserved
RA/91/3 - Greebo - new default

C.205

RA/96/1 - Old default skin, open to skin
ANR/1/18 - Airmess - orphaned, taken
ANR/2/4 - Airmess - orphaned, open to skin
ANR/7/1 - Krusty - reserved
ANR/2/22 - Krusty - reserved
ANR/3/5 - Krusty - reserved
RA/351/3 - PotsnPans - reserved
LW/JG77/1 - PotsnPans - reserved
ANR/1/18 - Dragon Tamer - reserved
ANR/3/3 - FTJR - reserved
RA/352/2 - Greebo - new default





Title: Re: C.202 and C.205 skins
Post by: FTJR on March 04, 2013, 03:48:10 AM
Thanks Greebo, yes mine is a 205
Title: Re: C.202 and C.205 skins
Post by: Krusty on March 04, 2013, 11:30:36 AM
Greebo, the C202 skin I want to do would be new, not a re-do of an existing. Just FYI.
Title: Re: C.202 and C.205 skins
Post by: Greebo on March 04, 2013, 12:35:23 PM
I lumped all the new and to be redone skins onto one list to keep it simple.

I missed that photo you included of 75-1 so I'll amend the details of that on the next list. BTW I have found a photo of 7-1 amongst my C.205 books which I can scan and email if you like.
Title: Re: C.202 and C.205 skins
Post by: Krusty on March 04, 2013, 12:51:56 PM
I would be most interested in that! Thanks!
Title: Re: C.202 and C.205 skins
Post by: Greebo on March 04, 2013, 02:08:05 PM
PM sent.
Title: Re: C.202 and C.205 skins
Post by: Greebo on March 05, 2013, 08:52:50 AM
I've picked three skins to do for the C.202 and C.205.

First is an ANR C.205 in the LW style camo scheme, aircraft number 1 of the 3rd Squadron of the 1st Fighter Group, pilot Sergio Mazzerelli.

Then an ANR C.205 in the brown and green smoke ring scheme, aircraft 6 of the 1st squadron of the 1st Fighter Group.

Then an RA C.202 in the green/light brown/red brown scheme, aircraft 5 of the 97th Squadron.

Updated list:-

C.202

RA/75/- - Old default skin - taken
RA/84/1 - Croduh - orphaned, open to skin
Croatian AF/2.JGr/1 - Croduh - orphaned, open to skin
RA/386/1 - Croduh - orphaned, open to skin
RA/80/6 - Croduh - orphaned, open to skin
RA/91/7 - Croduh - orphaned, open to skin
RA/71/8 - BH3841 - orphaned, open to skin
RA/151/2 - PotsnPans - reserved
RA/75/- - PotsnPans - reserved
RA/75/1 - Krusty - reserved
RA/73/10 - Dragon Tamer - reserved
RA/84/12 - Dragon Tamer - reserved
RA/91/3 - Greebo - new default
RA/97/5 - Greebo - reserved

C.205

RA/96/1 - Old default skin, open to skin
ANR/1/18 - Airmess - orphaned, taken
ANR/2/4 - Airmess - orphaned, open to skin
ANR/1/7 - Krusty - reserved
ANR/2/22 - Krusty - reserved
ANR/3/5 - Krusty - reserved
RA/351/3 - PotsnPans - reserved
LW/JG77/1 - PotsnPans - reserved
ANR/1/18 - Dragon Tamer - reserved
ANR/3/3 - FTJR - reserved
RA/352/2 - Greebo - new default
ANR/3/1 - Greebo - reserved
ANR/1/6 - Greebo - reserved

Title: Re: C.202 and C.205 skins
Post by: lyric1 on March 08, 2013, 10:54:54 PM
Few picture & profiles.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/4648778/Aircraft-Profile-028-Macchi-C-202-Folgore
Title: Re: C.202 and C.205 skins
Post by: FTJR on March 16, 2013, 10:53:53 PM
Thanks to Lyric for his continued discoveries.

I would like to do  RA/363/2  C202,  I will probably do this first.