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Title: Vikings
Post by: rogwar on March 04, 2013, 06:43:23 AM
Watched the first of this series last night on the History channel. Pretty darn good and interesting.
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: RngFndr on March 04, 2013, 06:47:51 AM
Recorded it, Recorded "The Bible" as well.. Looks good, I'll watch it today..

Had to see the latest Zombie episode, I'm hooked.. :o

Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: rogwar on March 04, 2013, 06:57:15 AM
Last night's episode of Walking Dead was pretty disturbing. Look how much people have changed.
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: SmokinLoon on March 04, 2013, 07:57:25 AM
Last night's episode of Walking Dead was pretty disturbing. Look how much people have changed.

The episode last night was the one every Walking Dead fan had been waiting for.  It answered the question as to "what happened to Morgan"?  Now we know.  It will be very interesting to see how Morgan plays out in the series.  In the graphic novel he re-enters in a positive light, not so much in the series at least not yet.  We still have the prison battle to deal with and from the previews that will be starting next week.   :aok

The Walking Dead is the first series I've gotten in to since the first few seasons of Alias.  Before that it was Star Trek Next Gen back in the early 1990's (post Tasha Yar), and before that it was Magnum PI in the mid 1980's.  I'm told I need to get in to Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones. We'll see.  I'm typically not a TV viewer.
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: zack1234 on March 04, 2013, 11:03:05 AM
Von is a Viking :old:

I have "Fantasy Island " on Betamax :old:

It is where i got a interest in planes :old:

"The Plane! The Plane! The Plane!" :)
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: rpm on March 04, 2013, 03:59:39 PM
I'm told I need to get in to Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones. We'll see.  
Yes on 1. No on 2.
Breaking Bad may be the best drama ever. Smart, funny and "whoa, didn't see that coming".
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: GScholz on March 04, 2013, 04:33:23 PM
What's wrong with Game of Thrones?
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: rogwar on March 04, 2013, 04:43:37 PM
What's wrong with Game of Thrones?

Some people don't like high fantasy so GoT is not appealing. I have enjoyed GoT and plan to read the books sometime.
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: GScholz on March 04, 2013, 04:50:42 PM
I'll never understand why people who don't like a particular genre of film/television would offer advice on what to watch in that genre... That's like homosexuals offering advise on what makes women look sexy.
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: rpm on March 04, 2013, 07:06:11 PM
What's wrong with Game of Thrones?
Tried watching it when it started. Just wasn't my cup of tea.
I'll never understand why people who don't like a particular genre of film/television would offer advice on what to watch in that genre... That's like homosexuals offering advise on what makes women look sexy.
I actually like fantasy/medieval stuff, just not GoT. Your comparison is a bit off. A lot of womens clothes is designed by gay men.
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: mechanic on March 04, 2013, 07:08:56 PM
Breaking Bad is excellent. Watched seasons 1-5 in the space of a week on netflix, just could not stop..
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: Saxman on March 04, 2013, 10:46:10 PM
Some people don't like high fantasy so GoT is not appealing. I have enjoyed GoT and plan to read the books sometime.

Other people like High Fantasy in general but are disgusted by the overwhelming nastiness of GoT. I love fantasy to ESCAPE that garbage. If I wanted to watch that much selfish pettiness on TV I'd turn on C-Span.
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: Karnak on March 04, 2013, 11:06:12 PM
Game of Thrones is not high fantasy.  It would fall into the low fantasy category due to the low quantity of magic and such, mainly just being a made up environment.  High fantasy is more wizards blasting at each other with spells and such.
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: Saxman on March 04, 2013, 11:58:30 PM
The Lord of the Rings is a VERY low-magic world. There's no wizards blasting each other with spells whatsoever, magic is subtle or barely present at all, yet it's THE defining work of High Fantasy literature, and still the work by virtually all other High Fantasy literature is compared.

Conan the Barbarian by contrast has FAR more overt magic. Sorcerers, wizards and magic are VERY prominent (ever other villain is a sorcerer of some sort). And once again, it's pretty codified Low Fantasy.

High vs. Low fantasy has NOTHING to do with quantity of magic, but by the scale of its themes, setting and plot. This plants GoT FIRMLY in High Fantasy.
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: zack1234 on March 05, 2013, 01:36:54 AM
I'll never understand why people who don't like a particular genre of film/television would offer advice on what to watch in that genre... That's like homosexuals offering advise on what makes women look sexy.

You can offer advice anytime you like :old:
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: GScholz on March 05, 2013, 04:24:26 AM
Tried watching it when it started. Just wasn't my cup of tea. I actually like fantasy/medieval stuff, just not GoT.

Ok then :) but you're missing out on something truly great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCo_X4uEP_I



Your comparison is a bit off. A lot of womens clothes is designed by gay men.

Yeah, and I consider that a major problem... When todays "ideal" women have no tits and the arse of a boy.

(http://poutperfection.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/hotter-than-this-meme01.jpg?w=500&h=466)
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: KgB on March 05, 2013, 05:49:25 AM
Ok then :) but you're missing out on something truly great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCo_X4uEP_I



Yeah, and I consider that a major problem... When todays "ideal" women have no tits and the arse of a boy.

(http://poutperfection.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/hotter-than-this-meme01.jpg?w=500&h=466)
It's  simply not true.
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: zack1234 on March 05, 2013, 07:13:32 AM
Yes too much oestrogen has got into the water supply and the youth of today are struggling with their sexual identity.

Those of us born before 1973 are safe from any such problems :old:

 
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: MiloMorai on March 05, 2013, 08:04:24 AM
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3623/19675623.jpg)
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: Nathan60 on March 05, 2013, 09:13:41 AM
Other people like High Fantasy in general but are disgusted by the overwhelming nastiness of GoT. I love fantasy to ESCAPE that garbage. If I wanted to watch that much selfish pettiness on TV I'd turn on C-Span.
If you thought the first cpl seasons were roungh wait til they get around to book 3 and book 4 thats when thisngs really get messy!
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: soda72 on March 05, 2013, 09:58:26 AM
The episode last night was the one every Walking Dead fan had been waiting for.  It answered the question as to "what happened to Morgan"?  Now we know.  It will be very interesting to see how Morgan plays out in the series.  In the graphic novel he re-enters in a positive light, not so much in the series at least not yet.  We still have the prison battle to deal with and from the previews that will be starting next week.   :aok

The Walking Dead is the first series I've gotten in to since the first few seasons of Alias.  Before that it was Star Trek Next Gen back in the early 1990's (post Tasha Yar), and before that it was Magnum PI in the mid 1980's.  I'm told I need to get in to Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones. We'll see.  I'm typically not a TV viewer.

So you didn't get into BSG in the 00's?
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: ink on March 05, 2013, 10:12:03 AM
Ok then :) but you're missing out on something truly great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCo_X4uEP_I



Yeah, and I consider that a major problem... When todays "ideal" women have no tits and the arse of a boy.

(http://poutperfection.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/hotter-than-this-meme01.jpg?w=500&h=466)

bottom right is the ideal woman :aok
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: zack1234 on March 05, 2013, 10:52:30 AM
I am going to tell your wife you have been looking at chicks Ink :old:

 :)
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: Saxman on March 05, 2013, 11:26:11 AM
If you thought the first cpl seasons were roungh wait til they get around to book 3 and book 4 thats when thisngs really get messy!

I haven't watched any of the series, but I read the first three books. And that's the point where I decided I had enough with anything to do with the series (before that I was already getting increasingly turned off by GRRM's continued demonstration all his "knowledge" of Medieval combat is what he pulled out of a DnD sourcebook).
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: ink on March 05, 2013, 11:32:58 AM
I am going to tell your wife you have been looking at chicks Ink :old:

 :)

 :rofl

well I think she knows....we have shared 8 woman together  :neener:
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: zack1234 on March 05, 2013, 11:40:10 AM
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Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: ALFAMEGA51 on March 05, 2013, 12:10:20 PM
How did you guys find a picture of me  :bhead
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: Nathan60 on March 05, 2013, 04:10:15 PM
How did you guys find a picture of me  :bhead
which one is you 2nd from lreft up top?
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: bozon on March 06, 2013, 07:30:12 AM
Game of thrones has no Elves which goes a long way in its favor. Its got dwarfs though... or at least a dwarf, but not the kind wielding a big axe and a Scottish accent. That dwarf is the best character there after Sean Bean was killed in the first season. I think the "Sharp's rifles" series was the only show where he was still alive when the credits were rolling...
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: GScholz on April 21, 2013, 06:45:12 PM
Just started watching Vikings. Pretty good show, although not all that historically accurate, but that's to be expected.
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: caldera on April 21, 2013, 07:26:54 PM
"How about dinner?  I know this little out of the way place that serves really good Viking food."    - Lieutenant Frank Drebin
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: ink on April 21, 2013, 09:06:21 PM
Just started watching Vikings. Pretty good show, although not all that historically accurate, but that's to be expected.

A lot more realistic then I thought it would be....I think they are trying to show them with modern ideals and way of talking...thinking.....which is far from fact.

otherwise good show. almost as good as walking dead :D

except the season ending show.....I cant believe how bad they screwed that up.(in walking dead)

Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: GScholz on April 21, 2013, 10:38:31 PM
Yeah, the Walking Dead season finale was terrible. The writers must be totally oblivious to survival situations and human behavior to make all the characters' actions so unbelievable. In Vikings on the other hand the characterization of the Norsemen is impressive. Especially considering the actors are mostly Canadian, Irish and Australian. The one Swedish actor is perhaps the most memorable as the eccentric shipwright. However... There are a number of problems with this "History Channel" presentation of the Vikings and Norse culture: Under Earl Haraldson the Norse society is presented as being a feudal dictatorship, when it was in essence a democracy. The existence and location of the English kingdoms and Ireland was not unknown to the Vikings at the time; it was common knowledge since Roman times. It is perhaps the dictatorial Earl and his frequent use of executions and torture that bother me most with the show. Norsemen didn't execute criminals, they were outlawed/outcast (which usually resulted in death by someone's hand later on, or by nature, but it's still not the same). Also the name of "Earl Haraldson" is wrong; he would be addressed by his first name (only name). "Haraldson" means "son of Harald" and would only be used after first uttering his actual name. Also Ragnar himself would not go by the name Lodbrok ("Lothbroc") at this time as it was a nickname he got later on. The character of Earl Haraldson and his antics are almost certainly completely fictional.
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: ink on April 22, 2013, 12:22:52 AM
Yeah, the Walking Dead season finale was terrible. The writers must be totally oblivious to survival situations and human behavior to make all the characters' actions so unbelievable. In Vikings on the other hand the characterization of the Norsemen is impressive. Especially considering the actors are mostly Canadian, Irish and Australian. The one Swedish actor is perhaps the most memorable as the eccentric shipwright. However... There are a number of problems with this "History Channel" presentation of the Vikings and Norse culture: Under Earl Haraldson the Norse society is presented as being a feudal dictatorship, when it was in essence a democracy. The existence and location of the English kingdoms and Ireland was not unknown to the Vikings at the time; it was common knowledge since Roman times. It is perhaps the dictatorial Earl and his frequent use of executions and torture that bother me most with the show. Norsemen didn't execute criminals, they were outlawed/outcast (which usually resulted in death by someone's hand later on, or by nature, but it's still not the same). Also the name of "Earl Haraldson" is wrong; he would be addressed by his first name (only name). "Haraldson" means "son of Harald" and would only be used after first uttering his actual name. Also Ragnar himself would not go by the name Lodbrok ("Lothbroc") at this time as it was a nickname he got later on. The character of Earl Haraldson and his antics are almost certainly completely fictional.

cc that, just started watching it, I was expecting to see horns and hollywood vikings haha
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: zack1234 on April 22, 2013, 01:44:07 AM
The Vikings were like the Greeks in their personal relationships :old:
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: Saxman on April 22, 2013, 07:13:00 AM
Yeah, the Walking Dead season finale was terrible. The writers must be totally oblivious to survival situations and human behavior to make all the characters' actions so unbelievable. In Vikings on the other hand the characterization of the Norsemen is impressive. Especially considering the actors are mostly Canadian, Irish and Australian. The one Swedish actor is perhaps the most memorable as the eccentric shipwright. However... There are a number of problems with this "History Channel" presentation of the Vikings and Norse culture: Under Earl Haraldson the Norse society is presented as being a feudal dictatorship, when it was in essence a democracy. The existence and location of the English kingdoms and Ireland was not unknown to the Vikings at the time; it was common knowledge since Roman times. It is perhaps the dictatorial Earl and his frequent use of executions and torture that bother me most with the show. Norsemen didn't execute criminals, they were outlawed/outcast (which usually resulted in death by someone's hand later on, or by nature, but it's still not the same). Also the name of "Earl Haraldson" is wrong; he would be addressed by his first name (only name). "Haraldson" means "son of Harald" and would only be used after first uttering his actual name. Also Ragnar himself would not go by the name Lodbrok ("Lothbroc") at this time as it was a nickname he got later on. The character of Earl Haraldson and his antics are almost certainly completely fictional.

Wait, what? You're telling me you expected historical accuracy from the HISTORY Channel? The same channel that brings us 24 hour Ice Road Truckers marathons on D-Day and Memorial Day?
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: GScholz on April 22, 2013, 09:40:38 AM
No the show was as expected ;)

Still pretty good.
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: rogwar on April 22, 2013, 10:02:17 AM
Much better than Lizard Lick Towing and other really stupid stuff on TV.
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: Rob52240 on April 22, 2013, 12:22:04 PM
Vikings is ++ Good.
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: Zacherof on April 23, 2013, 12:30:35 AM
GoT is awesome! I can watch naked women without harming my computer! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :devil
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: pervert on April 23, 2013, 05:11:14 AM
The Vikings were like the Greeks in their personal relationships :old:

Erm are you saying vikings were openly gay??
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: zack1234 on April 23, 2013, 07:51:49 AM
Yes :old:

It was not seen in a negative light in the era :old:

Spartans, Romans etc and The Vikings :old:

Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: GScholz on April 23, 2013, 08:02:41 AM
It is still not seen "in a negative light" over here...
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: pervert on April 23, 2013, 04:58:25 PM
Yes :old:

It was not seen in a negative light in the era :old:

Spartans, Romans etc and The Vikings :old:



 :eek: Looked it up its true  :uhoh :huh thats disappointing to be honest
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: GScholz on April 23, 2013, 05:27:04 PM
Lol why?
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: GScholz on April 23, 2013, 07:13:41 PM
The old Viking wanting to go on one last raid to die in battle reminded me of Bjorn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV5w262XvCU

 :rofl
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: Zacherof on April 24, 2013, 01:47:46 AM
Oh that's messed up :rofl

id be so frustradted lol :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: zack1234 on April 24, 2013, 07:26:07 AM
:eek: Looked it up its true  :uhoh :huh thats disappointing to be honest

Why?

Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: Zacherof on April 24, 2013, 09:30:35 AM
Why?


becuase the idea of Vikings as faries is like A wife cheating. Just ain't cool







.............unless your the guy Shea messing with  :D :aok
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: GScholz on April 24, 2013, 09:51:42 AM
Vikings really didn't care much who or what you had sex with. However, they were required by law to form families and produce children; it was considered a duty to society. Such a law is not really surprising considering the attrition rate of a warrior culture such as theirs. If you didn't want to start a family you could be charged with "fleeing from vagina" (or "fleeing from noodle" if you're a woman). So there were no gay families or gay marriages in Viking society, but no one cared who you had sex with for fun. As far as the law was concerned marriage and the family unit was strictly a matter of producing future warriors. Viking law also demanded you be a productive member of society by learning a craft and producing something of value to society. People who didn't were kicked out into the wilderness to fend for themselves. "Charity" was not in the Viking vocabulary.
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: Rob52240 on April 24, 2013, 10:21:50 AM
Are the Vikings in Civilization 5?
Title: Re: Vikings
Post by: Karnak on April 24, 2013, 02:08:48 PM
Are the Vikings in Civilization 5?
Yes, as Denmark.  Well, if you have the Gods and Kings expansion.