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Title: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Traveler on April 08, 2013, 04:24:55 AM
I've been playing AH for many years and I know we have had changes in the different models that drive game play over the years.  Has anyone noticed an unusual increase in the number of pilot wounds received lately?  I have.  In the last two weeks, every evening in almost every engagement I end up with a pilot wound.  Anyone else seeing this?
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: The Fury on April 08, 2013, 06:02:46 AM
 i was just presuming it was bad luck but yes i have been receiving a heck of a lot of pilot wounds too lately.
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Torquila on April 08, 2013, 06:13:39 AM
Just like nature has changes in season, so does AH with its players.

Things like that usually revolve around collective mood/etc.
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: SmokinLoon on April 08, 2013, 08:02:22 AM
So in other words you've been in the wrong place at the wrong time?  Or maybe the right time?   :headscratch:

Either way, I doubt anything has changed.  HTC is not in the habit of just tweaking server settings without mentioning something somewhere. 
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: ImADot on April 08, 2013, 08:37:17 AM
Perhaps people's aim is getting better, and more people are trying to hit the cockpit instead of the middle of the fuselage...
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Triton28 on April 08, 2013, 08:46:23 AM
Seems to run in spurts for me.  Some nights it just seems the pilot is the only part of the plane that gets hit.  Other nights I'm wearing titanium chain mail and can withstand 110 face shots.  <shrug>
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: SkyRock on April 08, 2013, 10:01:15 AM
The best PW is that one where you're laughing at the guy for spraying at 1000 out and you hear that "Ummph!" sound from your pilot.... gahh!! :furious



 :noid
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: smoe on April 08, 2013, 10:14:35 AM
Just like nature has changes in season, so does AH with its players.

Things like that usually revolve around collective mood/etc.

Are saying AH has a grudge to settle with its customers? :furious :noid :rofl
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Daddkev on April 08, 2013, 10:17:26 AM
 :huh :huh :O :O :huh :huh Don't go there......just don't go there!  :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead :bhead
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: tunnelrat on April 08, 2013, 11:45:35 AM
It seems like I get one 25%+ of my runs... and definitely a lot more from ground ack.

I was chalking it up to flying the zeke more, since you basically spawn on the runway with a pilot wound in that thing.

Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: DMGOD on April 08, 2013, 01:09:31 PM
I haven't had a pw in 3 months.  :headscratch:
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Banshee7 on April 08, 2013, 01:18:28 PM
I haven't had a pw in 3 months.  :headscratch:

Not much of a pilot there to wound  :devil
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: DMGOD on April 08, 2013, 02:02:30 PM
That's not very nice
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Torquila on April 08, 2013, 04:11:53 PM
smoe more like a collection of tiny events that lead up to an arrangement/situation that causes fluctuations in behaviour patterns. Nothing to do with HTC, but everything to do with us.
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: lunatic1 on April 08, 2013, 05:05:14 PM
whenever i get hit in the canopy i get a pilot wound :D
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: DREDIOCK on April 08, 2013, 06:08:12 PM
I've been playing AH for many years and I know we have had changes in the different models that drive game play over the years.  Has anyone noticed an unusual increase in the number of pilot wounds received lately?  I have.  In the last two weeks, every evening in almost every engagement I end up with a pilot wound.  Anyone else seeing this?

YES!

I've receive more pilot wounds so far this tour then I think I've had in the last 6 combined.
Day one of this tour I suffered a PW on every single flight but one.

I dont particularly care for the way PWs are modeled to begin with. But this is getting ridiculous
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: DREDIOCK on April 08, 2013, 06:09:43 PM
The best PW is that one where you're laughing at the guy for spraying at 1000 out and you hear that "Ummph!" sound from your pilot.... gahh!! :furious



 :noid

From behind while sitting in an armored seat
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: MK-84 on April 08, 2013, 06:14:17 PM
Just like nature has changes in season, so does AH with its players.

Things like that usually revolve around collective mood/etc.

 :rofl

Yeah that's it for sure :lol
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: The Fury on April 08, 2013, 06:50:32 PM


I was chalking it up to flying the zeke more, since you basically spawn on the runway with a pilot wound in that thing.




hahaha thats a good one very true indeed  :rofl
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Dragon Tamer on April 08, 2013, 11:02:58 PM
I CALL ON THE SNAIL! Let's see what Lusche has on the stats of PW, I know he keeps a record of them somewhere.
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Lusche on April 09, 2013, 06:01:18 AM
I CALL ON THE SNAIL! Let's see what Lusche has on the stats of PW, I know he keeps a record of them somewhere.

You gotta point me to the data first  ;)
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on April 09, 2013, 06:12:32 AM
The data shows.. -looks at a sheet of paper- .....that people get more pilot wounds when they get shot at and hit.
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Babalonian on April 09, 2013, 05:27:23 PM
From behind while sitting in an armored seat

 :furious  :bhead

Seriously, wish it was accuratley modeled to recognise that 50.cal not only hit the rear cockpit after traveling 998 yards, but also a steel plate!

And then on the other hand, german 20mm rounds in this game bounce off fabric past 650 yards.  :huh :confused:


Last night was pretty s!@#y, if not in luck then just the odds.
 
On that note, idk if pilot wounds are being more frequent or players are just spraying and praying with more lead lately.
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: bustr on April 09, 2013, 06:03:43 PM
Is it possible the pilot wound is an expression of a limited pallet of damage options to given areas of each object model? (Dead pilot OR Wounded pilot) Would you rather all rounds that affected the pilot simply killed your plane? Then this complaint would be about the object hardness modeling and how unfair it is to you personally opposed to the less than random OR choice in your personal case of an over occurrence of pilot wounding.

Over the years I've watched the pilot wound and collision complaints ebb and flow almost as if the admin for the game could influence the outcomes with a control table choice or slider control. Maps possibly could have their own idiosyncrasies due to their unique structures affecting these things. I've also watch this ebb and flow in response to Internet usage. School breaks, presidential elections, weather, natural disasters and wars.

So what is it?

1. - HiTech flips a coin each tour then changes some damage controls to switch things up?
2. - Each map influences outcomes differently for different players?
3. - The Internet is choking and pucking again?

Or do you simply want HiTech to turn off pilot wounds because of how personally insulting they are after all of the time invested to fly your plane to the site of your wounding? I've had nights along with some of my squad mates where it seemed like upping any plane meant a pilot wound no matter how skillfully I or they flew. At least spring break is over now.



Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Shifty on April 09, 2013, 06:06:05 PM
I chalk it up to middle aged weight gain. I make a bigger target than I did years ago.
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Dragon Tamer on April 09, 2013, 11:23:39 PM
You gotta point me to the data first  ;)

Since the OP wasn't specific about when the increase started, I'm going to use the last six months as a time scale. With that established is there any noticeable increase in PW to sortie ratio, or are we just getting bad at flying?
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Lab Rat 3947 on April 10, 2013, 02:27:27 AM
I only fly P38s and they are bullet magnets, as we all know; however, for this tour I seem to be getting more pilot wounds than usual. :old:

LtngRydr
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: 68ZooM on April 10, 2013, 10:11:47 AM
I flew 6 sorties last night 4 ended up with pw's they do seem to be a lot more lately
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Lusche on April 10, 2013, 10:18:11 AM
Since the OP wasn't specific about when the increase started, I'm going to use the last six months as a time scale. With that established is there any noticeable increase in PW to sortie ratio, or are we just getting bad at flying?


My statement still stands: You gotta show me where to find that kind of data before I could answer such a question. :)
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: icepac on April 10, 2013, 10:50:03 AM
I got a pilot would in every mossie sortie I flew yesterday but managed to land a couple of them.

Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: JB42 on April 10, 2013, 11:39:41 AM
I'm sure HTC would mention if they were going to change the PW model. I did find it curious that once, I was in the tower at a base with a vulching LA7, next thing I knew there was red on the tower windows and I was blacking out. Is that odd?  :huh
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Traveler on April 10, 2013, 06:22:08 PM
Since the OP wasn't specific about when the increase started, I'm going to use the last six months as a time scale. With that established is there any noticeable increase in PW to sortie ratio, or are we just getting bad at flying?

I was specific, however, you would have had to read my OP.  I said the last two weeks that I had noticed the increase in Pilot wounds .  That was posted on April 8th.
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Traveler on April 10, 2013, 06:24:58 PM
Is it possible the pilot wound is an expression of a limited pallet of damage options to given areas of each object model? (Dead pilot OR Wounded pilot) Would you rather all rounds that affected the pilot simply killed your plane? Then this complaint would be about the object hardness modeling and how unfair it is to you personally opposed to the less than random OR choice in your personal case of an over occurrence of pilot wounding.

Over the years I've watched the pilot wound and collision complaints ebb and flow almost as if the admin for the game could influence the outcomes with a control table choice or slider control. Maps possibly could have their own idiosyncrasies due to their unique structures affecting these things. I've also watch this ebb and flow in response to Internet usage. School breaks, presidential elections, weather, natural disasters and wars.

So what is it?

1. - HiTech flips a coin each tour then changes some damage controls to switch things up?
2. - Each map influences outcomes differently for different players?
3. - The Internet is choking and pucking again?

Or do you simply want HiTech to turn off pilot wounds because of how personally insulting they are after all of the time invested to fly your plane to the site of your wounding? I've had nights along with some of my squad mates where it seemed like upping any plane meant a pilot wound no matter how skillfully I or they flew. At least spring break is over now.





Because I was the OP, I'm not sure if you are addressing your comments to me.  First I posted an observation, not a complaint, I asked if anyone else had noticed what I felt that I had noticed.  I didn't ask HTC to change anything.  Does that answer your questions?
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: phatzo on April 10, 2013, 06:30:45 PM
(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/phatzo/eafe964a-0485-4fbd-83cc-039cf7663252_zps7b7f80d9.jpg)
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Lusche on April 10, 2013, 06:57:50 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Dragon Tamer on April 10, 2013, 07:14:37 PM
I'm sure HTC would mention if they were going to change the PW model. I did find it curious that once, I was in the tower at a base with a vulching LA7, next thing I knew there was red on the tower windows and I was blacking out. Is that odd?  :huh

What happened when the "pilot" finally died?

I was specific, however, you would have had to read my OP.  I said the last two weeks that I had noticed the increase in Pilot wounds .  That was posted on April 8th.

My bad, I misread it as "the last few weeks." That certainly narrows down the search a bit.

On that we need a collective analysis of the last four weeks, the first two for control and the last two to analyze any increase in PW. Lusche sounds as though he hasn't kept a record of the PW sustained during sorties which will complicate things a bit.

But as to the OP, yes I have noticed an increase in the number of PW I sustain. It seems like every other sortie that I run into a fighter I get PW.
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Lusche on April 10, 2013, 07:26:21 PM
Lusche sounds as though he hasn't kept a record of the PW sustained during sorties which will complicate things a bit.


Data from just a single player is not meaningful. Get me the data of several hundred and we can talk again  :P
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: icepac on April 10, 2013, 07:59:42 PM
I only had one sortie today in which I wasn't pilot wounded.

In the past 4 days, I have been pilot wounded more often than in the last two years.
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Volron on April 10, 2013, 08:10:54 PM
Maybe there is merit here?  I got a PW in a Betty yesterday.  Yes, a BETTY.  It was to my understanding that the Betty had 2 options when attacked; Pilot DEAD or, you are on fire. :)
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Lusche on April 10, 2013, 08:26:52 PM
Maybe there is merit here?  I got a PW in a Betty yesterday.  Yes, a BETTY.  It was to my understanding that the Betty had 2 options when attacked; Pilot DEAD or, you are on fire. :)


I think I can top that. I had a fuel leak in a Betty yesterday. An ordinary fuel leak... never had that before  :O
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: icepac on April 10, 2013, 11:20:54 PM
I only had one sortie today in which I wasn't pilot wounded.

In the past 4 days, I have been pilot wounded more often than in the last two years.

I forgot to add I've only played 4 days this tour.
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Randy1 on April 11, 2013, 06:08:41 AM
I had several pilot wounds last night but if it were not for this post I would not have thought of a change.  Could be though a change in your fighting style might open you up to more pilot wounds and less total plane shot downs.  I will take the pilot wound.
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: A8TOOL on April 11, 2013, 11:48:38 AM
I've experienced many more than usual over the last few weeks.

Even tho I made a very cool sound for PW's, I'm getting sick of hearing it every 3rd flight. 

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?k8fjtrfarqveswy


 :aok
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Volron on April 12, 2013, 04:22:59 PM

I think I can top that. I had a fuel leak in a Betty yesterday. An ordinary fuel leak... never had that before  :O

Oh that one is simple; you hacked. :D
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: LTCClark on April 13, 2013, 06:43:24 AM
due to the sequester hiechh has had to cut back on issuing flack. vests

with the large number of them getting destroyed by non returning pilots there is no. way to keep up the supply either.

so I would be expecting a little more pilots getting gut.shot
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: FLOOB on April 13, 2013, 09:32:07 AM
I think pilot wounds used to be infrequent and we just got used to that.
Title: Re: Pilot Wounded yet again.
Post by: Lab Rat 3947 on April 13, 2013, 02:53:39 PM
Quote
due to the sequester hiechh has had to cut back on issuing flack. vests

with the large number of them getting destroyed by non returning pilots there is no. way to keep up the supply either.

so I would be expecting a little more pilots getting gut.shot
:rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
kinda sorta sounds plausible, I think    :headscratch:

LtngRydr    :old: