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Title: Defense Against Spies
Post by: OldDoom on April 09, 2013, 09:44:42 PM
How about giving players the ability to turn off visibility on friendly Radar? Could be an option like turn off tracers. Would keep follks from being able to view Goon Positions from 2nd account?
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: Karnak on April 09, 2013, 09:48:36 PM
This incidence rate of this is far, far lower than it is claimed.  This would be a waste of time.
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: OldDoom on April 09, 2013, 09:56:22 PM
Really? Cant tell you how many times I have been sitting in a goon under a frendly cv radar and see a red dot up and manuver around all green dots while navigating straight to me :)
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: Devil 505 on April 09, 2013, 10:01:04 PM
Really? Cant tell you how many times I have been sitting in a goon under a frendly cv radar and see a red dot up and manuver around all green dots while navigating straight to me :)
nothing says free kill like a big red icon labeled C-47
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: RedBull1 on April 09, 2013, 10:15:28 PM
Really? Cant tell you how many times I have been sitting in a goon under a frendly cv radar and see a red dot up and manuver around all green dots while navigating straight to me :)
Players with older/weaker PC's will see big black SQUARES at distances over 1k, rather than a tiny spec of a plane. When I had my old PC I could spot a landed goon from miles away, so before you get too paranoid, remember, a lot of things can give away the position of your precious goon :)
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: lyric1 on April 09, 2013, 10:49:53 PM
Cant tell you how many times I have been sitting in a goon under a frendly cv radar and see a red dot up and manuver around all green dots while navigating straight to me :)

You are clearly not aware of all the quirks out there that make this possible.
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: RotBaron on April 09, 2013, 11:22:48 PM
Few weeks ago we captured an enemy port and moved CV all way up to top-right alcove near another port and cv (compello.)  Low and behold without any recon, without having a single plane witin 4 sectors for couple hours, here comes a mission that flies right over the cv they don't want, didn't drop a single bomb on it, and they get the one they want.  Geeee Wally their preeeetty smart over there, they knew just which one it was.


Several of us tried to catch them, we did, and we know.  When they were asked where they got their infinite wisdom, since the two were side by side, the response was "imagination."  

Yeah, I imagine something too.  



OP, I like your idea.

Detractors:  why would it hurt the game? Why would this be a big deal???
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: cobia38 on April 10, 2013, 06:10:55 AM
Few weeks ago we captured an enemy port and moved CV all way up to top-right alcove near another port and cv (compello.)  Low and behold without any recon, without having a single plane witin 4 sectors for couple hours, here comes a mission that flies right over the cv they don't want, didn't drop a single bomb on it, and they get the one they want.  Geeee Wally their preeeetty smart over there, they knew just which one it was.


Several of us tried to catch them, we did, and we know.  When they were asked where they got their infinite wisdom, since the two were side by side, the response was "imagination."  

Yeah, I imagine something too.  



OP, I like your idea.

Detractors:  why would it hurt the game? Why would this be a big deal???

  If you hide a CV, then you deserve to get it located by a spy......Duh
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: Lusche on April 10, 2013, 06:14:48 AM
Only a true spy would ask for the ability to cloak his plane and fly around the map invisible to his "countrymen" ....  :noid
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: thndregg on April 10, 2013, 06:25:20 AM
  If you hide a CV, then you deserve to get it located by a spy......Duh

I'll make sure and peek at your side of the tabletop Battleship game, then.
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: VonMessa on April 10, 2013, 09:28:09 AM
Few weeks ago we captured an enemy port and moved CV all way up to top-right alcove near another port and cv (compello.)  Low and behold without any recon, without having a single plane witin 4 sectors for couple hours, here comes a mission that flies right over the cv they don't want, didn't drop a single bomb on it, and they get the one they want.  Geeee Wally their preeeetty smart over there, they knew just which one it was.


Several of us tried to catch them, we did, and we know.  When they were asked where they got their infinite wisdom, since the two were side by side, the response was "imagination."  

Yeah, I imagine something too.  



OP, I like your idea.

Detractors:  why would it hurt the game? Why would this be a big deal???

That right there, is why.

  If you hide a CV, then you deserve to get it located by a spy......Duh

Pretty much...
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: matt on April 10, 2013, 10:15:47 AM
Spy < :noid
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: VonMessa on April 10, 2013, 10:29:15 AM
Spy < :noid

Please turn in your Little Orphan Annie Secret Decoder Ring  :furious
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: icepac on April 10, 2013, 10:51:36 AM
I routinely fly to the usual cv hiding places to check for hidden cv.

If you hide it in the same place every single time, it will be found every single time much like a M3 or goon headed straight to a field from spawn is easily found.

Try a little variety.
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: ink on April 10, 2013, 10:53:22 AM
Please turn in your Little Orphan Annie Secret Decoder Ring  :furious


 :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: kvuo75 on April 10, 2013, 01:43:45 PM
Few weeks ago we captured an enemy port and moved CV all way up to top-right alcove near another port and cv (compello.)  Low and behold without any recon, without having a single plane witin 4 sectors for couple hours, here comes a mission that flies right over the cv they don't want, didn't drop a single bomb on it, and they get the one they want.  Geeee Wally their preeeetty smart over there, they knew just which one it was.



nobody's EVER hidden a cv up there.. EVER!

 :rolleyes:

yesterday:

(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/1499/ahss77.jpg)


LOLOOLOLOL
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: mbailey on April 10, 2013, 04:19:59 PM
WHo would have thought to look in the corners of the map for a hidden CV? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: Devil 505 on April 10, 2013, 04:25:37 PM
  If you hide a CV, then you deserve to get it located by a spy......Duh
This.
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: kappa on April 10, 2013, 04:44:00 PM
Only a true spy would ask for the ability to cloak his plane and fly around the map invisible to his "countrymen" ....  :noid

omg lol.... that there is just too good! lmao
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: Mano on April 10, 2013, 08:45:32 PM
GV more !

Spies are irrelevant !

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: RotBaron on April 11, 2013, 12:33:51 AM


nobody's EVER hidden a cv up there.. EVER!

 :rolleyes:

yesterday:

(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/1499/ahss77.jpg)


LOLOOLOLOL

Wasn't hidden up there, it was hidden right along with another cv as I said, in one of those alcoves.
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: RotBaron on April 11, 2013, 12:38:13 AM
This.


Why does hiding a cv deserve to get discovered by a spy???  That's twice that somebody has said "this."  This what? 

How does a hidden cv deserve to get discovered by a guy using two accounts any different than a shade telling the other country where a goon is hiding? 

What if he used it to kill cv's regularly and make his score better? 
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: Nathan60 on April 11, 2013, 05:05:29 AM
a hidden cv is  a worthless cv.
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: SPKmes on April 11, 2013, 05:13:08 AM

Why does hiding a cv deserve to get discovered by a spy???  That's twice that somebody has said "this."  This what? 

How does a hidden cv deserve to get discovered by a guy using two accounts any different than a shade telling the other country where a goon is hiding? 

What if he used it to kill cv's regularly and make his score better? 

It isn't always people with shade accounts or two accounts... there are those who just dislike this type of game play(hiding CV's) ... perhaps the person responsible got sick of not being able to move it/use it... had a round of to and fro with friendlies and then got a mate to take it out ( seen it before and will again)... not really spying...just some guy who got pissy with some generals so fixed his problem   :lol :lol .....
 There is no real cure for this(spying)... limit to one account..pretty hard to do these days...possibly impossible...even so  there is skype/vent etc etc to communicate ... it is just a breed of player who won't be stopped... they will find any and every exploit available to use and abuse.... just play your game and shrug off those you feel are idiots.... there is/are plenty more decent people than dicks in game and life..
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: Jed on April 11, 2013, 06:52:14 AM
I have a older computer that has bad graphics..  Not by choice, but lack of funding from wife.  Most times I fight big black squares with wings. This also lets me see these big squares from across the map.  I can find a gv or goon no matter where it's hiding.  My only fix is pulling up the clipboard., Makes it go away for a few seconds.  I can't be the only one with the issue. as mentioned before.  Something to sit on.....
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: Spikes on April 11, 2013, 02:31:39 PM
Few weeks ago we captured an enemy port and moved CV all way up to top-right alcove near another port and cv (compello.)  Low and behold without any recon, without having a single plane witin 4 sectors for couple hours, here comes a mission that flies right over the cv they don't want, didn't drop a single bomb on it, and they get the one they want.  Geeee Wally their preeeetty smart over there, they knew just which one it was.


Several of us tried to catch them, we did, and we know.  When they were asked where they got their infinite wisdom, since the two were side by side, the response was "imagination." 

Yeah, I imagine something too. 



OP, I like your idea.

Detractors:  why would it hurt the game? Why would this be a big deal???
You didn't take your eyes off the sector for 2 hours straight?
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: BFOOT1 on April 11, 2013, 03:17:44 PM
Players with older/weaker PC's will see big black SQUARES at distances over 1k, rather than a tiny spec of a plane. When I had my old PC I could spot a landed goon from miles away, so before you get too paranoid, remember, a lot of things can give away the position of your precious goon :)
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Same here Red I could always spot bogeys from miles out because of that blob when I was younger. I was always the scout in my squadron in FSO and Scenarions  :)
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: seano on April 11, 2013, 05:04:02 PM
like turning off you IFF. i like it but then friendly puffy ack should be able to kill you.
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: The Fugitive on April 11, 2013, 05:49:33 PM

Why does hiding a cv deserve to get discovered by a spy???  That's twice that somebody has said "this."  This what? 

How does a hidden cv deserve to get discovered by a guy using two accounts any different than a shade telling the other country where a goon is hiding? 

What if he used it to kill cv's regularly and make his score better? 

The point some are trying to make are "Why are you hiding a CV ?"

Many think hiding a CV is just as lame as "spies".

So, don't hide CVs and you wont have to worry about a spy looking, finding, and sinking it.
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: RotBaron on April 12, 2013, 01:39:29 AM
Preety much no, kept an eye on that sector most of the time. Was about 4-5 sectors away from nearest enemy base, not real hard to keep track of...esp when camping 85 and looking out for dudes with eggs for meh panther  :devil 

I take a look at the map if I can, to see how many/where when there is a warning issued... 


Hiding a cv can prevent sneaks from a large area depending on map, and thus allow focus to go elsewhere.  Jus saying.


 :salute
Title: Re: Defense Against Spies
Post by: guncrasher on April 12, 2013, 11:52:26 AM
rotbaron there's only so many places you can hide the cv now.  you go straight for one and if he isnt there then you go to the next.  and to be honest bishops are now predictable at where the cv is gonna be hidden.  for the last couple of weeks that I have been online they kept the cv at the same place. same for the rooks.

a couple of years ago I would bust so many vtard  missions that they thought they had a spy among them.  but what I would do is look for the most likely base to be attacked then kill the ords on the nearest bases except for the closest enemy base and wait.  I would guess right about 4 or 5 missions a day ,when I would play, and give the alarm while I climbed to get the goons.

semp